Linux-Misc Digest #226, Volume #21 Fri, 30 Jul 99 22:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: SB PCI 128 Config ("J. Blair")
Re: CIA assassinations (TheDickFighter)
LUG in LONDON ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Superuser ("Matt")
How to rm file with special chars? (bruce)
screen, the program (Otavio Exel)
Re: BRU2000 PE how to exclude directories (Richard Bumby)
Re: DOSLinux Questions (Bob Mcdaniel)
Re: What I think of linux. (DanH)
Re: realaudio player w/source code (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: CIA assassinations ("A.T.Z.")
Re: CIA assassinations (Phillip Lord)
Re: Which flavor of Linux to use? (Rob van Hout)
Re: RH 6.0 and Iomega PP zip driver ("G-man")
Re: IBM Netfinity 5500 and Caldera 2.2 Problems (Robert C Flisik)
Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS? (Lindoze 2000)
seting up dial-in PPP ? (Nicolas Anquetil)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Lindoze 2000)
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From: "J. Blair" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SB PCI 128 Config
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:31:20 -0500
i have a SB PCI128, use the es1371 driver.
i have rh6.0, so i really don't know how to do it in suse, but that's the
correct driver...jimmy
David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I just got a new PCI 128 card for my machine but I'm not sure which
> driver I should use. I left the kernel compiled with the old AWE64 card
> I had to see if that would work to no avail. The linux hardware
> compatibility howto says it's supported but how do I get it working?
> Please help.
>
> P.S. I'm using SuSE 6.1 with kernel 2.2.10
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From: TheDickFighter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:38:00 -0700
Dick Klutz wrote:
>
> In article <7nk0ld$6fa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >One irony is that many factory jobs in the U.S. disappeared during the
> >1980s and 1990s not because technology directly replaced workers, but
> >because it demanded skills of these workers that they simply did not
> >have, like being able to read and do math at a high school level.
> >(Note: I was a factory worker during much of the 80s.)
>
> And why do you think the technology was put in place? Technology serves
> whoever controls it. Who do you think owns technology in the USA?
Well, the company that I work for designed much of the computer you are using.
Are we controlling you?
snip
> Do you count universities as part of the education system? The US
> has always sucked at producing scientists and researchers.
Is this why people from around the world come to the US for higher education?
Is this why there are more high tech companies here than anywhere else?
Is this why the US is the leader in computers?
IS this why the US is the only country that landed on the moon?
Is this why the US is a leader in medicine?
snip
> The only solution is massive redistribution from the rich to the
> poor,
That's funny, in another post you just sent out, you indicated you do
NOT share YOUR "wealth" with the less fortunate. Are you saying your
a HYPOCRITE?
> instead of from the poor to the rich. But to do that, you
> need a democracy. This is anathema to right-wingers, and even most
> left-wingers. In fact, only extreme left-wingers want democracy.
--
Nonnaho
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LUG in LONDON
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:02:29 GMT
Is there a Linux Users Group in London , UK ?
A sedentary life, as I have already said elsewhere, is the real sin against the Holy
Ghost.
-Nietzsche
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From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Superuser
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:46:15 -0400
Why not try sudo ? You can specify the commands that may be run as a
"regular" user with root permissions, as well as which users may run those
commands with those permissions.
Joseph_A_Philbrook__III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7nsteu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Darren S Paxton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >How do I set up a user account with Administration capabilities. I would
> >like to get one set up due to the obvious dangers of running as root,
> >and would rather be able to run an SU account on a 'normal' user
> >
> >Thanx
> >
> >Darren
>
>
> Ummmmnnn Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly THE authority on this...
>
> BUT
>
> Isn't the dangers of running as root mostly because the "Administration
> capabilities" of the root account mean that your always carrying a loaded
> permission level. I mean if you screw up. If you run some program you
> THOUGHT was safe. If... The very "Administration capabilities" make it
easy
> to corrupt something you wish you hadn't...
>
> If you set up a "regular account" that has rootlike permisions, it can do
> rootlike dammages.
>
> However if you set up an ordinary user account for yourself it can't
> do more than ordanary dammage... And if you need to do an admin function,
> all you need is to get to any command prompt (console, xterm, etc...)
> and type
>
> su
>
> hit enter and then enter the root password. bingo you are temporarily
root.
> Just do the admin task, then logout in the usual way <exit> and poof
> your back to your regular self, and can get back to what you were doing
and
> without a worry about the risk of running as root...
>
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From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to rm file with special chars?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:08:47 -0400
Obviously a newbie ?. I created a file starting with --. How can I rm it
(w/o starting X)? TIA.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otavio Exel)
Subject: screen, the program
Date: 30 Jul 1999 19:49:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hello all,
I'm looking for info on the terminal multiplexer program called screen;
it it totally impossible to find info on it using web/usenet searches
because screen is such a common word; I'd apreciate if someone could
point me to any of:
- a mailing list or a news group
- a 'magic' word that would spot screen related messages in (say)
DejaNews;
and, just in case you can help me..
I've been using screen with Debian Hamm with absolute success; after
upgrading to Slink some keys in some situations (ex: space-bar in less)
takes ages (well: 3 or 4 seconds) to show; any clues?
TIA,
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Bumby)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: BRU2000 PE how to exclude directories
Date: 30 Jul 1999 15:54:48 -0400
Johan Groth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Derek Ealy wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've figured out that there was a copy of BRU2000 included with my
>> RedHat 5.1 Distribution. ...
>>
>> Obviously there must be something that I'm misunderstanding about how
>> to use this program. Can someone clue me in please?
>>
>According to 'man bru' there is an option called -X that triggers the
>use of the bruxpat file. I use the version that came with Red Hat 5.0
>and when I try to use that option bru tells me that the option isn't
>recognized. I don't know if -X is supported in PE or if this is a bug.
>Perhaps you need the professional version of bru in order to get -X to
>work.
I'm also at steep start of the learning curve with the copy of BRU
that came with my copy of Caldera 2.2. When I visited their web site,
I learned that they sell printed copies of a manual for US$20 plus
shipping. Everything in the book may be *somewhere* in the online
documentation, but it is more useful for planning future uses of the
program. There seem to be a lot of little things that you need to do
to configure the program for your system. You may be missing a
different part of the setup.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Mcdaniel)
Date: 30 Jul 99 18:14:51 GMT
Subject: Re: DOSLinux Questions
Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED],
On 27 Jul 99 02:31:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to All...
a> From: Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
a> Subject: DOSLinux Questions
a> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
a> I just installed DOSLinux. It was easy. :P
a> Now I have a few questions.
a> What is LOOP?
a> What is ELF?
a> How do they work?
a> What are the Other ways that Linux runs?
a> How they compare? Performance/Size etc?
a>
a> Why can't I see any thing in DOS/Windows?
a> If it runs over a DOS partition, I would expect to see the
a> directory Structure like PHAT Linux. Is it (including my files
a> that I create) stored in the tgz file?
a> Where is the SOURCE code for DOSLinux files?
a> Could all of those source files be compliled with PGCC?
a> Adam
where does updateXX.tgz go. so you can open it??
are their any "man." at all in doslnxXX?? Or are all of them in
'updateXX??'
Adam - I think a LOOP system is a way to use a (take your pick of terms)
M - Drive H /ram - disk /what ever, as a /dev that can be mounted.
Since i can not find a reference to exe2fs and how it is layed out I
must assume it is part of "the learning curve," and will be found in
more than one of the "HOW-TO"s that currently are eatting my HDD.
*/- anybody else trying to 'get their feet wet' with DOSLinux?? \*
bob.
-=plm=-
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:04:41 -0400
Jon Bloom wrote:
>
> DanH wrote:
> >
> > 33 here. Learned to program on a Cray in '78 (it's been downhill ever
>
> How did you get your hands on a Cray as a 12-year-old?
Advantage of having a nuclear physicist as a father and wanting to go
see what he does at work for a couple of weeks during the summer.
Dan
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Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: realaudio player w/source code
Date: 31 Jul 1999 00:15:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Anyone know of a RealAudio player for Linux (or any other OS, if it
> comes to that) that includes the source code?
>
The only realaudio players I know about are the ones created by the
company itself. I am sure they are not going to release the code.
Its like asking if microsoft is going to release the code to IE. I dont'
think so.
As far as I know there are not and will probably wont be any open source
"realaudio" players out there. If there are I have never seen 'em or heard
of 'em.
- Justin
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From: "A.T.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:29:09 +0200
Richard Kulisz schreef:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Richard Kulisz schreef:
> >> It's been done, over and over and over and over and over at nauseum and
> >> you still remain unenlightened.
> >
> >Where ???? If you did then it might not be clare to everyone. Still think you
> >dan't have a vision other then the Robin Hood kind of doing things.
>
> If you dismiss my vision as "the usual whining" (as you do below) then
> this implies you must have known about it. So why the hell are you
> complaining about a lack of vision?
Gee, you have a vision.
> Hey, you may not want democracy
> but plenty of people do.
I want it too. But only a REAL democracy not the thing most countries have. Oh sorry,
you may vote once in a few years and call it democracy.
> >It is happening today in the Netherlands. When you inherit money you pay the
> >governement a part.
>
> I imagine the Netherlands is far better off than the USA or Canada.
> If you have a national debt then something you can do is force your
> central bank to monetize it to free yourself from its burden. You
> can also put in wealth taxes, environmental taxes, and all the other
> usual ideas.
>
> >> What do you have against inheritance taxes for billionaires?
> >
> >With what right does a government claim a part of the money saved by people to
> >give their children some extra. The gov. just has no right to do this. Before
> >you ask: no I don't think I'm going to inherit a large som.
>
> Are you aware that nepotism is a Bad Thing?
Yes it is.
> The government, if it is representative of society, has *every* right. Wealth
> and property belongs to society and not to individual people and society can
> reclaim all the wealth it loaned to an individual after he or she dies.
COMMUNIST !!
> >I read your remark as: damn I didn't get a million or 6-100. That's all what it
> >says.
>
> All I need is 150K and I'm set; I don't see why anyone should get away with
> a million (let alone a billion) when people are starving in the streets.
150k pff. Just enough to buy a small house here in The Netherlands
> What's 6-100?
6-100 million
> >> No they wouldn't. That's just a bluff propagated by corporations. They're
> >> blackmailing your country and idiots like you tell everyone else to fold.
> >> When you actually call their bluff, and it's been done in the past, the
> >> companies stay right where they are.
> >
> >NO NO NO NO Raise say 20-50% additional tax and I'm sure they are going. You
>
> What the fuck do you know? History proves otherwise.
I think I upset you. But there is really no reason te be rude.
> >know who really got hit by those laws, the little businesses where the
> >entrepreneur works 70-90 hours a week to make a honest living. A big company has
> >the money to move. In the Netherlands this is happening, and I'm sure this also
> >happens in the USA. Go and take a look in India or China where there are lots of
> >possibilities to get cheap labor.
>
> They will move only so long as you allow them to move.
HA HA HA HA ever tried to stop a hurricane??How would you stop an international
company like say Philips or Compaq.
> Corporations will
> remain wherever they can make a profit, and this has been demonstrated
> in the USA and Australia.
Nonsense. It is happening. Where have you been the last few years. Companies using
the possibilities there are. Perhaps the head-office in Washington and the factory in
Argentina. No problem, we have the internet to communicate, telephone, voice over IP,
IP tunneling etc.
> >> First step; establish democracy in the Americas.
> >
> >I would have expected an intelligent remark. Not the usual wining. Perhaps you
> >might want to mail your president with your ideas. There are two possiblities if
>
> We don't have a president. And why the hell would I want to mail anything,
> other than a bomb, to the idiot asshole in office? Democracy isn't something
> you establish by begging a parliamentarian, you achieve it by building a
> massive social movement.
You can get arrested for this kind of behaviour. Certainly when it succeeds.
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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 30 Jul 1999 22:38:12 +0100
>>>>> "Matthias" == Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Matthias> You don't get it, do you? I don't agree with MK's
Matthias> position, but the 1917 October revolution was most
Matthias> definitely not a revolution supported by the people.
Well this depends on how you define the people. It
probably was supported by most of the proletariat, which is why most
of the soviets had a majority of Bolsheviks (unlike in february, when
the soviets were generally Menshevik).
It is clear that the October revolution was more supported
"by the people" than the attempted putsch which happened before it,
and which the Kernesky govt was complicit in because they didnt like
the increasing power of the Mensheviks.
What was not a revolution supported by the people was the
silent reaction which happened later, lead by Stalin, the character of
which many ascribed to socialism per se.
Matthias> Ah, and yes, the Bastille was never stormed. It
Matthias> capitulated after firing a single shot and was then torn
Matthias> down by paid demolition workers.
This is probably true. Much like the storming of the winter
palace. It doesnt change the fact that a revolution had happened. The
bastille is just a "photogenic" reminder of it.
Phil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob van Hout)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which flavor of Linux to use?
Date: 30 Jul 1999 19:42:14 GMT
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:41:54 -0700, Elephant scribbled:
> I heard Redhat doesn't do multiprocessor support; will try to verify if this
> is the case.
Bull ;-). Maybe the installed prefab kernel doesn't but you can recompile
your kernel just as you can in any other Linux distribution.
If you're running a dual-processor machine: upgrade to kernel 2.2! SMP
support has had several improvements over 2.0, and is now configurable via
make menuconfig. For kernel 2.0, uncomment the SMP = 1 in Makefile.
--
Rob van Hout
==========================================================================
Running Red Hat Linux 5.2, kernel 2.2.10 on a dual Pentium Pro 200 / 128MB
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: "G-man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH 6.0 and Iomega PP zip driver
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 00:31:29 GMT
I had success using 'modprobe ppa' instead of 'insmod'. Give it a try.
Good luck.
Dan Bizuneh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> During the installation of RH 5.2 a while back, I chose Iomega PP zip
> drive from the scsi list, redhat recognized my parallel port zip drive
> and everything went well. But when I try to upgrade to RH 6.0, redhat
> was unable to auto probe my parallel port zip drive. Does anyone know
> how I can make my parallel port zip drive work on RH 6.0?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Bizuneh
>
>
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From: Robert C Flisik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IBM Netfinity 5500 and Caldera 2.2 Problems
Date: 29 Jul 1999 21:30:31 GMT
larry wrote:
>
> In article <7no0bo$lqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Robert C Flisik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > We have Netfinity 5500's and would like to move from NT to Linux. We
> > purchased the 2.2 distribution of Caldera. Each time we try to load in
> the
> > install, the system will hang at the load kernel message. Afterwords a
> hard
> > reboot is required.
> > We have tried the shipped install floppy, and well as LISA - both with
> > similar results - a lock up at the LILO message.
> > We would like to use the Caldera distribution, but I have read that
> RedHat
> > does support the ServeRaid II controller in the Netfinity series. Can
> > anyone help?
> >
> > Details:
> > 450 PII, 128MB, (2) 9GB drives.
> >
> > Thanks in Advance,
> > Bob Flisik
>
> Bob
>
> I am currently running two 5500's with the beta driver using Red Hat
> Linux 6.0 in my office. It seems pretty stable, but there are several
> issues I am dealing with:
> 1) The SeveRAID controller does NOT like SCSI tape drives. IBM
> suggests that you get a seperate controller for them.
> 2) The Linux driver will NOT recognize an Iomega SCSI Zip 100.
> I have purchased the IBM SCSI controller (part # 76H3579 {which is an
> Adaptec 2940UW packaged with IBM cables}) and the tape and Zip both seem
> to be fine.
>
> All other hardware on the server comes up fine under Red Hat 6.0.
>
> If my testing continues as well as it has gone so far, I will probably
> deliver these systems to clients during the second week of August even
> though the drivers are betas. My conversations with IBM software
> engineers indicate that they are very close to releasing the driver.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Larry,
Thanks for the reply and the info. I am not surprised about the additional
SCSI devices, and will do the same. Do you know where I can get the beta
driver for the ServeRaid. I have covered the IBM site many times, to no
avail.
Again, thanks for all the help!
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is Linux A Memory Hogging OS?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:43:19 -0400
Youngert wrote:
>
> I have an AMD K6-2 400MHz, 128M RAM running SuSE-6.1 with Linux-2.2.10
> kernel. The computer's setup is a basic one with X11 + KDE. Everytime I
> compile the kernel, the system starts swapping at some point and never
> releases the memory even after finishing the kernel compilation. Is there a
> way to force the kernel to release the un-used memory?
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> PS. Please remove 4 from the reply address should you decide to reply.
what do you mean by swapping?
Linux will use all the mem. type free and you will see that
linux uses some of the mem for progs, some for buffers and the rest is
used for hdd caching. nothing is left free.just load another prog and
see the cache part beiing lowered. and why would you not want linux to
use all 128 MB of RAM? imagine if you got you self a brand spanking new
128MB of 100MHz SDRAM and only 10.5MB is used and the rest stays idle
like windoze does? wouldnt you feel you wasted your money?
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From: Nicolas Anquetil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: seting up dial-in PPP ?
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:43:42 -0400
Hi,
I was wondering how to set up my linux so that it starts automagically
ppp when I dial in.
Apparently getty can only start a chat script when one dials in, not a
shell script like `ppp-on'.
Am I right ?
Any other solution?
thanks
--
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recherche
Knowledge Based Reverse Engineering Univ. of/d'Ottawa
E-Mail: Anquetil "at" CSI.UOttawa.CA Tel: (1) (613) 562-5800 x6688
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From: Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:47:38 -0400
you are a very strange guy. why do you post unrelated stuff and hope to
get attention?
Frank Hart wrote:
>
> On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:16:55 -0400, Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >stop embarrassing yourselves. this is a linux Newsgroup.
>
> Stop replying above the quotes.
>
> Frank hart
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