Linux-Misc Digest #226, Volume #26 Sat, 4 Nov 00 06:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: AOL connection under linux (Pixur)
Re: Whats good about debian and slackware? (Otto Wyss)
Time Prob ("K. Creed")
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mounting HDD's ("frederic bodart")
Re: Mounting HDD's (Nick)
zip auto mounting ("Atanas Gueorguiev")
Re: RPM installation ("Atanas Gueorguiev")
Re: Time Prob ("Atanas Gueorguiev")
Re: specifing a group when mapping a drive to a Samba server
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Internet connection sharing ("David ..")
Re: Secure mail under Red Hat 6.2 ("David ..")
Re: color prompt in tcsh (Tyler Larson)
where is mySQL? ("gina")
Re: help with httpd (Tyler Larson)
Re: troff (Floyd Davidson)
How to decompress debian package? Pls help (Alan Po)
Re: hang on 'remounting root filesystem'? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: where is mySQL? (Tyler Larson)
Re: which version do i use, now? (NAVARRO LOPEZ, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pixur)
Subject: Re: AOL connection under linux
Date: 04 Nov 2000 08:19:06 GMT
Jason,
<< You cant use a standard dialup to use AOL as your ISP >>
Thanks for the informative post. I imagine you are correct about the holdup due
to the possible support nightmare.
:-)
As an update to my second request for info from AOL support, their second
response follows:
"I understand you would like to know how you can use AOL using Linux, Im sorry
about this, currently AOL does not support Linux. I would appreciate it very
much if you can post your comments on this at Keyword: Suggestions. Most of
AOL improvements comes from that area.
For the (Gateway address, Domain Name Servers, SMTP, NNTP Servers...) AOL does
not support a third party email software that may asks for this informations,
this is inline with the parental control and security set for AOL."
Also, thanks for the link to inside-aol.com. I really enjoyed reading about the
Microsoft "hack"!
Julie Wagaman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss)
Subject: Re: Whats good about debian and slackware?
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:29:23 +0100
> I would just like to know, from the people that use these two distro's:
> What makes them so good, for you personally? What do you really like about
> them?
>
I started my distro experience with SuSe 6.0 and did upgrade to 6.2 and
6.3. Each time I had lots of trouble since I lost some configuration.
Also Yast did constantly undo my manually change configuration.
Afterwards I tried Caldera OpenLinux 2.3 which had a perfect
installation (except for my USB mouse/keyboard). At that time I couldn't
figure out how stop loading of the kdesktop, which look-and-feel I never
accepted. So I switched to CorelLinux 1.0 but it did not install
correct. Next in the line was Debian 2.0 with kernel 2.0.36 which
allmost kicked me off. But I had the chance to download allmost the full
Debian 2.2 and was very impressed by the smoth upgrade process. 2 Weeks
ago I upgraded again to the current Debian Woody (and of course kernel
2.4.0-test5). This time only the not being able to do a force remove of
libg (or was libc?) in dselect prevented a smoth upgrade. Fortunatly I
knew how to handle this with dpkg in the mean time.
If you plan to do upgrade regulary go for any distribution with the
Debian package system, I think the dpkg is much superior to rpm. If you
want to get some deep knowlegde and maybe help pushing Linux forward, go
for Debian. Otherwise if you need paid support go either for RedHat or
Suse. Sorry here around nobody uses Slackware anymore. And of course
there are lots of other distros around.
O. Wyss
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From: "K. Creed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Time Prob
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 08:35:03 GMT
When I first boot up Linux and launch X the time is displayed correctly,
but after awhile it resets to a time six hours prior. I've used the
date command which works temporarily but the time still resets
incorrectly after awhile.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Kris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 15:29:50 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Tested three systems on my server. Windows 2000 server, Novell 5.x, and
: Redhat Linux server. Of the three, Windows 2000 server is the only one
: that I could get up and running and working as a intranet file server
: in and exceptable amount of time. The others have takin over a week to
Then you are a retard. I could install and set up a linux machine using
the exact same ethernet card (The Linksys one) in less than an hour. In
fact, I did that just the other night.
--
Jeff Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"You're one of those condescending UNIX users! ...."
"Here's a nickel kid ... get yourself a real computer."
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From: "frederic bodart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting HDD's
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 09:36:15 +0100
You can use LVM for stripping multiple hard disks (and /or partitions) into
one
file system. Stripping is RAID 0, so without data protection (ie Raid1 or
Raid5).
Try this link
http://linux.msede.com/lvm/
Regards
"Nick" <nickb21@*nospam*excite.com> a �crit dans le message news:
zOOM5.69$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Is it possible to mount multiple hard drives to one mount point. I would
> guess this would involve some sort of RAID configuration. I am running
> Rhat 6.2. Any help would be great. Thanks a lot.
>
> --Nick
>
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From: Nick <nickb21@*nospam*excite.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mounting HDD's
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:45:29 -0500
Thanks for the help. I read up on software RAID as well. Just to do something
simple I think maybe a Linear mode RAID would work as well, have to try it out
and see what happens. Thanks again.
frederic bodart wrote:
> You can use LVM for stripping multiple hard disks (and /or partitions) into
> one
> file system. Stripping is RAID 0, so without data protection (ie Raid1 or
> Raid5).
> Try this link
> http://linux.msede.com/lvm/
>
> Regards
> "Nick" <nickb21@*nospam*excite.com> a �crit dans le message news:
> zOOM5.69$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Is it possible to mount multiple hard drives to one mount point. I would
> > guess this would involve some sort of RAID configuration. I am running
> > Rhat 6.2. Any help would be great. Thanks a lot.
> >
> > --Nick
> >
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From: "Atanas Gueorguiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: zip auto mounting
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:33:47 -0500
Hi, everybody,
I am trying to convince my RH6.2 to auto mount a zip disk regardless
of the filesystem type it has. I want to be able to mount a FAT/EXT2
zip disk by simply typing 'mount /mnt/zip'. I thought that this single
line in /etc/fstab:
/dev/zip /mnt/zip auto noauto,owner 0 0
was supposed to do the trick (especially the 'auto' entry) but it does
not work. It fails with a 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type'.
The log messages say:
VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)
hdd: hdd4
[MS-DOS FS Rel. 12,FAT 16,check=n,conv=b,uid=1002,gid=1000,umask=002,bmap]
[me=0x6d,cs=768,#f=32,fs=37632,fl=423504,ds=13786368,de=8237,data=13786896,se=28489,ts=1869182049,ls=8293,rc=0,fc=4294967295]
Transaction block size = 512
VFS: Can't find a valid MSDOS filesystem on dev 16:40.
The standard solution, i.e. 'mount /mnt/doszip' and
'mount /mnt/linuxzip', works if I add to /etc/fstab:
/dev/hdd1 /mnt/linuxzip ext2 noauto,user 0 0
/dev/hdd4 /mnt/doszip vfat noauto,user 0 0
What annoys me most is that on my machine at home I have the
same setup and it works.
The only relevant difference I can think of is that my home
machine had a fresh install of RH6.2 while the one I am trying
on now has been upgraded since RH6.0. The version of mount
on both, however, is the same.
I would appreciate any suggestions...
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From: "Atanas Gueorguiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM installation
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:44:06 -0500
Use rpm -qlp package.name.rpm
to figure where the files would normally go.
Then install using the --relocate /old/dir=/new/dir
options (as many as you need) to relocate all necessary
directories. You may need to add --badreloc if
the package is not relocatable (chances are it is not,
as useful as this feature is, no one seems to care
about it).
Make sure that you use the verbose option too (-vv),
save the output to a file and take a look at it. Some rpms
create additional files that are not listed. If file locations
are not hardcoded somewhere in the programs (very
unlikely), you should be fine.
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David
Richard Larochelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I need to install some rpm on a machine which I don't have root on.
>
> It seem like it should be possible to get rpm to install into
> directories that I have write permission to. Is there anyway to get rpm
> to do this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> David
>
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From: "Atanas Gueorguiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time Prob
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 03:50:04 -0500
Are you running xntp? And is your time zone set correctly?
Also there is an option in /etc/sysconfig/clock that says
whether the BIOS clock on the machine is in UTC or local
time.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "K. Creed"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I first boot up Linux and launch X the time is displayed correctly,
> but after awhile it resets to a time six hours prior. I've used the
> date command which works temporarily but the time still resets
> incorrectly after awhile.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: specifing a group when mapping a drive to a Samba server
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 09:50:15 GMT
Chris Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: How do I specify the group that files created with a samba session have?
: Is there something I can put into this smb.conf file to specify which group
: permissions should be used for this share? If not, is there another way to
: force files created to use a particular group?
Use the "force group" option like so:
: [web]
: comment = Dept Web page
: path = /home/httpd/html
: valid users = cbarnes tonyr mtyson
: public = no
: writable = yes
: printable = no
: create mask = 0775
force group = webusers
Regards,
Friedhelm
--
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
===================================================================
Friedhelm Mehnert, Berliner Allee 42, 22850 Norderstedt, Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Internet connection sharing
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 19:25:40 -0600
inon21 wrote:
>
> Thank you very much. I will jump right into reading those HOWTOs. BTW,
> I have LinkSys card and I guess I need Tulip drivers for this.
>
> Thanks once again.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
The tulip module is included with the kernel.
Add a line like this:
alias eth0 tulip
To /etc/conf.modules
Then run "depmod -a"
Then configure your network the way you want it.
and then restart the network:
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart
At least that is how I do it on a redhat system.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more work units than: 98.779% of seti users.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Secure mail under Red Hat 6.2
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 00:39:47 -0600
J Sloan wrote:
>
> D & S wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am looking at moving my company from using sendmail under Red Hat 6.2 to
> > something more secure and that gives me some levels of spam control.
You might check qmail
http://www.qmail.org/
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more work units than: 98.779% of seti users.
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From: Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: color prompt in tcsh
Date: 4 Nov 2000 10:17:49 GMT
My prompt looks like this: (set in my .bash_profile)
export PS1='[\u@\h \033[1;33m\W\033[0;39m]\$ '
Granted, it's bash and not tcsh, but the idea is there. The \033 is
the equivilant to ^V<esc> in this setting. I'm not sure if that can
carry over to tcsh or not-- you'd think that it would.
But the idea is this, "[1;33m" sets the 'special' color (I personally like
my working directory to be in yellow so It's more visible. Then "[0;39m"
sets the color back to white. It's simple enough. But I run into
a strange bug. I run RH62 on various systems, and they all do the same thing.
If the prompt line gets too long ~80 character (easy to do with a lot of
color changes) or the command I type is so much longer than the display width
of the screen, the terminal (whichever it may be) seems to "lose track" of
which characters belong where, and the cursor moves to a different location,
seemingly at random. The command is still buffered correctly in the memory,
but when I type and the cursor is at the beginning of the line, it seems
like I'm typing over the first part of my command. It's very irritating.
It all started when I started putting these escape sequences in my prompt,
and the more I put in there, the likely this bug will show itself.
There's my little plug for colored prompts. Maybe someone else out there
has experienced the same thing and can shed a little light for the rest of
us. (Or at least me.)
Brad Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you! This gets my command line in color. But that led to another
> question: Is there a way to embed those escape characters right in my set
> prompt line? What I'd like to do is have the prompt itself in one color,
> and the command being entered in another color. I tried sticking the
> escape character in like:
> set prompt="^V<esc>[1;31m MYPROMPT%% ^V<esc>[0;27m"
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From: "gina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where is mySQL?
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 18:50:47 +0800
Hi, I'm a newbie in Linux. May I know where I can find the copy of MySQL in
OpenLinux or do I need to install them?
Thanks
Gina
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From: Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help with httpd
Date: 4 Nov 2000 10:42:27 GMT
Try instead ps -Af or better yet ps -Af |grep httpd and you'll
see two columns of PIDs. The first is the process's PID and the other
is the parent's. Using that you can easily trace back and find which
is the 'main' process. There's also the httpd.pid file (usually stored
somewhere around /var/run/httpd.pid which will store the main server
PID so you can stick 'kill -HUP `cat /var/run/httpd.pid`' in a script
and it will always get the right one.
For the config file, look first in /etc/httpd/conf (the usual location)
and if you dont find it, just do a find / -name 'httpd.conf' and you'll
hit it eventually. :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> on my linux box i have a running http daemon (redhat 6.2)
> when i do a 'ps ax' i can see 5 PIDs for httpd.
> two of the have [httpd] and three appear as httpd, all are
> consecutive PIDs like 585, 586, 587, 588 and 589.
> ok, is there a way to find as to which http server it is
> and where is its config file.
--
Tyler
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: troff
Date: 04 Nov 2000 00:43:06 -0900
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here is a macro to underline a single word, which may be followed by a
>second token that will not be underlined (usually used to add punctuation
>at the end of the word).
>
> .de UL
> \\$1\l'|0\(ul'\\$1
^^^^
Typo alert!!!
Someone was kind enough to (anonymously) email me and point out
the error above. That should be
\\$1\l'|0\(ul'\\$2
> .de UL
> \\$1\s-5\l'|0\(ul'\s0\\$1
> ..
This was copied from the first example, and has the same typo.
Sorry 'bout that.
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: Alan Po <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: How to decompress debian package? Pls help
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 18:43:41 +0800
Dear sir
I have got a ash file but is in debain package (deb extension). I don't
know how to decompress under Red Hat. Would you give me help? Thanks a
lot
Alan Po
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 04:59:23 -0500
Subject: Re: hang on 'remounting root filesystem'?
Greetings!
I had to crash out of Linux tonight -- power switch! --; I was fooling
with nfs and got stuck.
It did it's 'forced checking' routine and gave a [PASSED]; then it seems
to hang at REMOUNTING ROOT FILESYSTEM IN READ-WRITE MODE, altho it
indicates [OK] so perhaps the hang is just after this routine.
I just discovered I don't have a serviceable bootdisk (I'm going to see if
I can get that 'tomsrtbt' bootdisk) but even if I could boot into the
system, I'm not sure what I'm looking to correct.
I welcome some help here; thanks!
It's a RedHat 6.0 system (laptop); I was doing nfs via a pcmcia card to my
desktop. The HD is otherwise intact -- I'm using it now in OS/2 and the RH
cdrom sees the HD though I noticed it hanged also on trying to create a
rescue disk.
>>>I had sent this out yesterday to comp.os.linux.misc and I'm reposting it to this
>group since I didn't get an answer there -- I'm sure someone will try to help, but
>it's getting urgent. I also can't get out on the web, it seems -- some kind of DNS
>problem? -- so I can't get to that bootdisk site. I'll try to make a normal floppy
>install disk but still, once I'm in, I'm not sure what kind of diagnostics I should
>do except to look at fstab. <<<
F.
===========================================================
Felmon John Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Union College / Schenectady, NY
os/2 - ma kauft koi katz em sack
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From: Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where is mySQL?
Date: 4 Nov 2000 10:50:41 GMT
gina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, I'm a newbie in Linux. May I know where I can find the copy of MySQL in
> OpenLinux or do I need to install them?
Your best bet (especially if you're looking for a most recent version) is
to download it from mysql.com. It'll probably be somewhere on the CD, but
it's almost certainly not automatically installed. A lot of times, though,
the on-CD version doesn't have all the whistles and bells that a full
installation comes with. I'd just download it.
> Thanks
> Gina
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From: NAVARRO LOPEZ, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jes=FAs?= Manuel
Subject: Re: which version do i use, now?
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 11:09:34 +0100
Hi:
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
> Chang-min Park wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have a question. If you have some clues, please help me.
> >
> > If someone uses redhat distribution linux machines and he doesn't
> > know which version he installed, then how can he find out the
> > right version?
>
> Another question one might ask is "What version am I running now?" I know what
> version I installed on one of my machines (Red Hat Linux 6.0), but I have put
> about a year and a half worth of RPMs into it since then, so it is somewhere
> between 6.0 and 6.2. If I put in all possible RPMs in, I do not know if it
> would be running 6.2 or not.
>
So what? It really doesn't matter. Apart from need it to tell your
friends what your base distro is (or was when first installed) what do
you want to need it for? I dare say to know if you can install a RPM or
not, but you will know this just trying to install it!! the packet
itself will tell you if there's any dependences problem, and as far as
you are able to solution it it will install and will run just OK. Main
problems you will arrive to are usually due to glibc and kernel major
revisions incompatibilities but, note the prior assertion is still true,
though dealing with incompatibilities will be so much a pain that you
would probably gain time just making a fresh install and reconfigure
with a modern version than trying to update by hand. As an example,
let's say you start with a RH5.2 (which is kernel2.0 and glibc5 based)
and you want to install the latest pre-compiled Apache RPM (which stands
to be dependant on glibc6.2 and, indirectly, on kernel 2.4 series).
Just for this to be done, you will have to update almost anything on
your box, from gcc to tons of libraries of glibc, from kernel to
init-scripts, and you probably will be a month full of work to get all
the stuff in place and correct the mistakes you did in the way. But, if
you're patient enough you will be able to install that apache RPM just
the same as within a fresh RH7.0 installation. To the question of what
RH version is installed in your box you will answer "my own RH-based
version" (which is, to some extent, the same we all have to answer if
have installed even just one packet out the security and enhacements
upgrades from the RH official repository).
--
SALUD,
Jes�s
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