Linux-Misc Digest #227, Volume #19 Sun, 28 Feb 99 09:13:09 EST
Contents:
Re: installing components once linux has been installed (Ivo Sbalzarini)
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
Re: More bad news for NT (Harry)
hda irq timeout (Milos Prudek)
Re: QUESTION: How to send html or other MIME type from command line. ("David Z.
Maze")
Re: Digital Cameras (Eric GAUDET)
Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux? (Larry Trutter)
Hurd should run linux binaries (Edward Betts)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Chris Lee)
Re: Help: booting 2.2.1 on a Chembook laptop (dmalcolm)
Re: Help: booting 2.2.1 on a Chembook laptop (dmalcolm)
g++ / SuSE 6.0 - errors (James Dingwall)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Brett W. McCoy)
Re: AMD questions ("Jakub Chmielewski")
Re: copy from old_fs to new_fs (xcitor)
Re: g++ / SuSE 6.0 - errors (Philip Armstrong)
Init problem (Alexander Frolkin)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Brett W. McCoy)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Brett W. McCoy)
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From: Ivo Sbalzarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing components once linux has been installed
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:03:11 +0100
On Sam, 27 Feb 1999, Chris T. wrote:
>Does anyone know how i install other components once linux has already
>installed? I'm using Linux Redhat version 4.2.
The most convenient way to install an extra component on a RedHat system is to
get the RPM-archives of it (from CD, WWW, etc.) and use RPM like:
rpm -i <package_name.rpm>
this will install the component and update your systam database, so you will be
able to uninstall it later on just doing a:
rpm -u <package_name>
cu
Ivo
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:12:09 -0500
> Wierd. How do those extra words and characters get placed at
the end of all those lines? Does it have something to do with
posting from an NT box? I'm not trying to be insulting here; I'm
just curious. <
The extra characters come from the fact I'm using Compuserve's 'k
wonderful news reader! No extra characters when I use Netscape.'
Harryr
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:17:19 -0500
> You want personal testimony? I was using an Compaq NT machine
to develop an Access database. I made a nice little splash screen
to replace Access's, and when I wen t to run it, it chocked on e
the splash screen. Simple little .bmp file, BSOD. <
Microsoft moved the graphics drivers from user to kernel mode <Dbe
between NT3.51 and NT4.0. This gave NT a performance boost when n
handling graphical applications at the expense of allowing a e
badly-written graphics routine to bring down the system. Yep, it
was a poor decision, but it made people used to Windows 95 p
graphics performance happy.
Harryi
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:09:05 -0500
Rich Perna wrote:
> Windows NT just is not a server OS <
I've got to say that, from the point of view of a traditional
server (file + print or application), NT doesn't perform as well
as other OSs. However, Microsoft is selling NT Server on the back
of their NT "end-to-end" strategy. I know lots of folk who've got
NT Server just so they can implement domains (NetBIOS domains, o
that is!). Also, MS cunningly adopted the strategy of not i4�4j
allowing BackOffice products on NT Workstation (though SQL Server
7 will).
Harryl
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From: Milos Prudek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hda irq timeout
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:20:18 +0100
The following suddenly appeared on my console:
hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 (Busy}
ide0: reset: success
System seems to be working fine. What does the above mean?
--
Milos Prudek
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: QUESTION: How to send html or other MIME type from command line.
Date: 28 Feb 1999 07:38:52 -0500
Ben Greear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ben> I am trying to write a program which will send mail to people.
Ben> The trick is that I want to send them something that will open as
Ben> HTML (in their Netscape viewer).
(NB: not everybody uses Netscape as a mailreader. It's *really*
annoying to get HTML-formatted mail where (a) there's no real
formatting, just an HTML-formatted plain-text message and/or (b)
you're not using a mailreader that understands HTML/MIME.)
Ben> I'm pretty sure I need to do something with mime types, but I
Ben> don't know what or how.
Ben>
Ben> Can I get 'mail' to do this somehow? If not, got any ideas? I'm
Ben> not getting to far searching the web...
It looks like 'metasend' from the metamail package will do what you
want. But please make sure you have a good reason for doing this...
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: Eric GAUDET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Digital Cameras
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:26:49 +0900
Kyle Dansie wrote:
>
> The Infernal One wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone either know or have good source information on
> > which digital cameras support linux? TIA.
>
> I plan on buying one of the Sony cameras that write to a floppy disk. I
> think that the images are a standard format like gif that you can read
> in Linux.
>
Actually, the format is Jpeg :-)))
Mine does some mpeg animations too, but I can't make xanim play them
:-((
Eric
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From: Larry Trutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Should IBM port Visual Age for Java to Linux?
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:06:02 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marten Feldtmann wrote:
>
> Dennis Smith wrote:
> >
> > The only arguments I see against
> > runtime fees are those of administration -- its a nuisance,
> > so that is why I suggest a couple of fee structures.
>
> Well, we're developing end-user applications and I can tell you,
> that we would strongly vote against runtime fees.
>
> Marten
I agree. In a state bureaucracy like ours, the procurement process take
forever. Runtime licensing is VERY, VERY unattractive.
--
Larry Trutter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Betts)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Hurd should run linux binaries
Date: 28 Feb 1999 12:53:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It would be interesting to see MkLinux and Hurd coexist, and that could
>conceivably have some usefulness. Indeed, if Hurd was to eclipse
>Linux, I would think it likely that the process would almost certainly
>need to include a transition period of a "coexistence" of this sort,
>where binary compatibility would be of some value.
Hurd showed be able to run linux binaries on the same arch. They are both
glibc2 just add a couple of linux syscalls and hurd can do most linux
binaries. Linus wants cross unix binary compatablilty.
--
GNU does not eliminate all the world's problems, only some of them.
-- The GNU Manifesto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Lee)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 28 Feb 1999 13:31:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>> One of my main concerns as to Linux and the GPL is proprietery
>> drivers....I only hope that it won't cause a problem that the Kernel was
>> GPLed instead of some 'other' licence which would have been less hazy in
>> this area. Actually seems to me that the GPL might totally be a problem
>> since drivers ARE linked to the kernel,....some people/groups might have
>> coniption fits if a company tries this. Besides that though, I have no
>> opinion....just glad linux is free.
>
>
>Well, it has happened. A company has released a kernel module which is
>binary. Too bad for them, too bad for us,...too bad for
>Linux....because the kernel was GPLed.
>
>This sucks, but I knew it would happen....with all the talk about how
>much we want commercial developers to take Linux seriously,...the MINUTE
>one does they get egged. This is why Linux will never make it much
>further then it already has.
They got exactly what they deserved. That kernel module as you put it
*MODIFIED* the linux kernel which is against the rules and everybody pretty
much knows it.
They tried pulling a fast one and got nailed for it. End of story.
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:25:52 -0600
From: dmalcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: booting 2.2.1 on a Chembook laptop
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I assume you copied zImage to '/'. Did you rerun liloconfig? LILO needs
to remap the new kernel. You may need to reboot with your orgininal boot
floppy. You did make one didn't you?
Dan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> I'm running Redhat 5.2 on a chembook 9730.
> I installed the latest rpm's from redhat for building
> the 2.2 kernel.
> make zImage went OK.
> When I try to boot the new kernel (tried it from both a floppy
> and using LILO) I get the following messages:
>
> --
> --
> --
>
> PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09
> PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcd0-0xfcd7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcd8-0xfcdf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
> hda: IBM-DKLA-24320, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: UJDA150, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
>
> ----
> ----
> Some stuff about floppy drives/cdroms ansd PPP
> ----
>
> Partition check:
> request_module[ide-disk]: Root fs mounted
> hda: driver not present
> VFS: Cannot open root device 03:01
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
>
> Any suggestions ??
> thanks
> Steve
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 07:26:27 -0600
From: dmalcolm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help: booting 2.2.1 on a Chembook laptop
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I assume you copied zImage to '/'. Did you rerun liloconfig? LILO needs
to remap the new kernel. You may need to reboot with your orgininal boot
floppy. You did make one didn't you?
Dan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> I'm running Redhat 5.2 on a chembook 9730.
> I installed the latest rpm's from redhat for building
> the 2.2 kernel.
> make zImage went OK.
> When I try to boot the new kernel (tried it from both a floppy
> and using LILO) I get the following messages:
>
> --
> --
> --
>
> PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 09
> PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcd0-0xfcd7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
> ide0: BM-DMA at 0xfcd8-0xfcdf, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
> hda: IBM-DKLA-24320, ATA DISK drive
> hdc: UJDA150, ATAPI CDROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
> ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
>
> ----
> ----
> Some stuff about floppy drives/cdroms ansd PPP
> ----
>
> Partition check:
> request_module[ide-disk]: Root fs mounted
> hda: driver not present
> VFS: Cannot open root device 03:01
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01
>
> Any suggestions ??
> thanks
> Steve
>
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Dingwall)
Subject: g++ / SuSE 6.0 - errors
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:59:47 GMT
Hi,
I recently upgraded to SuSE 6.0 and I'm now having problems with g++.
The only things that I've changed from the original installation are that
I've upgraded to glibc 2.1 (I know it's been dropped on the ftp sites, but
as I understand it not for technical reasons) and moved the kernel to
2.2.2. What I've been trying to do is upgrade the version of kde supplied
to the latest CVS version. However when I run any of the configure
scripts it is reported that g++ is a cross compiler (because it compiles a
little test program which seg faults.) To test this i wrote a short
program and compiled it with g++, I know this isn't c++ code but it'll
still work.
int main()
{
int one = 1;
printf("one = 1\n");
return(0);
}
When I execute this, it does the printf (and anything else you want) but
the problem is that return(0); causes it to seg fault. Can anyone tell me
if g++ fails on a clean SuSE 6.0 system, or do I have to reinstall glibc
2.0.7.
TIA
James
(CC Replies via email appreciated if poss)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:58:57 GMT
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:24:30 -0800, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well, it may be for you, but this is the kind of tool linux needs. This
>is why REAL (I mean non-techies) buy thier computers....to fill some
>need. You think writing 500 different text editors/IRC clients is less
>of a waste of time???? I mean, thats what most linux development is.
You haven't been keeping up with Linux development for the past 5 years
then. There's far more than 500 editors and IRC clients. Or is that the
only things you have figured out how to use?
--
Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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From: "Jakub Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AMD questions
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:51:00 +0100
Ursa_M napisa�(a) w wiadomo�ci: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>J Schenk wrote:
>
>> Does anyone use an Amd k6-2 and have problems.
>
>Ursa_M --> Short answer....No Problems of Any Kind Seen. I have three AMD
>K6-2 300 machines at home along with one PII-450 and a couple of laptops.
>Two of the AMD's run Win98 flawlessly and the third runs Linux (RedHat 5.1)
>with zero problems. All are fast and extremely reliable, and pretty low
>cost as well.
>
Can you describe your configurations, esp. the one that runs linux? I am
going to build a linux box soon and don't know what mb to buy.
Thanks in advance
Jakub Chmielewski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (xcitor)
Subject: Re: copy from old_fs to new_fs
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:37:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Feb 99 11:25:54 +0100,
Georges Heinesch wrote
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>I have installed a new harddisk and would like to copy my old_fs to
>this bigger new_fs. However I encountered several problems.
>
>1. dump and restore doesn't exist on Linux (unlike NetBSD).
Well, I guess it depends on the distro you have. Both dump and restore
exist on my RedHat 5.2 system. The also exist on my 4.1 system. These
are my preferred tools to use to accomplish what you want to:
dump 0f /file/system/name - | restore rf - .
Note the . at the end - this assumes you are in the directory where
you want your data to end up.
--
Agree with them now, it will save so much time.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Armstrong)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: g++ / SuSE 6.0 - errors
Date: 28 Feb 1999 13:56:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Dingwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I recently upgraded to SuSE 6.0 and I'm now having problems with g++.
>The only things that I've changed from the original installation are that
>I've upgraded to glibc 2.1 (I know it's been dropped on the ftp sites, but
^^^^^^^^^
you changed your libc, and expected gcc not to notice?
FAIK, you'll have to recompile g++/gcc in order for
them to work with glibc 2.1 -- I think g++ was in the habit
of using some symbols internal to glibc 2.0 which it wasn't
supposed to...
cheers,
Phil
--
nosig
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From: Alexander Frolkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Init problem
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:04:10 GMT
Hi, all!
Is there a bug in SysVinit which is stopping it from working correctly over
a serial line ?
I'm using version 2.76, and I have the following line in my /etc/inittab:
S0:45:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 ttyS0
When I use my other computer to try to login, all I get is the login prompt,
where I can type my login name (it _is_ echoed back, BTW) and press enter.
After that, nothing happens - not even a password prompt. I've tried using
simpleinit from util-linux 2.9i, and it works, but is there any way that I can
do this using SysVinit ?
Does anyone know where I can get a later version or a patch, if either is
available?
Thanks!
Alexander Frolkin
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:11:36 GMT
On 28 Feb 1999 09:15:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hehehe... If I had a good printer, and a book on TeX, I'd learn it... =)
>
>I've heard that TeX is a markup language, like HTML, but without hyper-
>text... is this correct?
In some respects. The development environment is much more complex then
HTML, of course. Here is a sample TeX script:
\begin{figure}
\begin{center}
\hrule
\vspace{8pt}
Some text
\hrule
\vspace{8pt}
\end{center}
\end{figure}
(swiped from the O'Reilly book _Making TeX Work_, by Norman Walsh)
In HTML, the equivalent would be something like:
<html>
<body>
<hr>
<p>
Some text
<hr>
<p>
</body>
</html>
I believe LaTeX has some facilities for SGML document formatting.
-- Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 14:15:27 GMT
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:27:59 -0800, jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hehehe... If I had a good printer, and a book on TeX, I'd learn it... =)
>>
>> I've heard that TeX is a markup language, like HTML, but without hyper-
>> text... is this correct?
>
>No, it is not correct. It is a document description language, like
>PostScript.
I would say TeX is more like HTML than PostScript. PostScript is more a
vector-path page description language.
--
Brett W. McCoy
http://www.lan2wan.com/~bmccoy/
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