Linux-Misc Digest #339, Volume #19 Sat, 6 Mar 99 21:13:08 EST
Contents:
Does Samba enable page/record locking within Linux? ("Jeff R")
Re: 16 Colors Only (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: Cant get dynamic IP-Adress at PPP-Dialin (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: One-way Cable Modem ("tonni")
mount Jaz-partitions (hfs/AUX) on Linux386 (Kristian Orlopp)
G3 PDS card usable? (mac 8100 ppc...with 3rd party accel.) (Jeffrey Buchsbaum)
Re: Exporting Windows filesystem for Linux... (Colin Day)
Re: best offline newsreader? (Richard Steiner)
Re: A LUG in Vermont (Chris Johnson)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Donn Miller)
so, how is gnome 1.0, guys? <troll> (steve mcadams)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Bill Polhemus)
Re: linux un Virtual PC on a Mac??? (Matt Denton)
Re: Linux Wannabe: which distribution? (TurboTex)
Re: stupid tar question (Paul Hughett)
Re: best offline newsreader? (William Wueppelmann)
Re: Xwindows too BIG (jik-)
svgalib flippin out my keyboard (Ryan McGuigan)
midi files don't seem to play very well (should they?) System - Redhat 5.2, KDE
1.1, AWE32 (Paul-S)
Re: Wanted: linux theme screen background with a rocket by night (Christian Tsotras)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Johan Kullstam)
Re: cron + scripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: stupid tar question (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME! (Ned Carlson)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused (Andy Johnson)
Re: UNIX/Linux book request for SysAdms ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Jeff R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Does Samba enable page/record locking within Linux?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 17:01:01 GMT
I'm investigating the feasibility of replacing a Novell 3.2 server with one
running Linux (RedHat 5.2). Netware 3.12 has a 2k page size and the
ability to independently set the maximum number of record locks for both an
individual connection and total locks. From within AUTOEXEC.NCF ...
set maximum record locks per connection = x
set maximum record locks = y
A critical concern: Does Samba have the ability to perform page/record
locking? If so, what is the maximum number of locks per connection as well
as overall? (Is page size 2k?)
Thanks in advance, Jeff
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 16 Colors Only
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 11:57:51 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What are your depths as listed in /etc/X11/XF86Config?
Paul Davies wrote:
>
> I'm running Red Hat 5.2 with an STB Virge VX graphics card. I cannot get
> the screen to display more 16 colours and I've tried all the different modes
> in xfConfig but to no avail.
>
> Does anyone know of a solution?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cant get dynamic IP-Adress at PPP-Dialin
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 12:01:35 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Post some detail.
"Torsten Schmidt." wrote:
>
> I can�t get dynamic IP-adress on ppp-dialin ?
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From: "tonni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: One-way Cable Modem
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 14:38:01 GMT
i have gi instruments surfboard s1200 external and i can connect this thing
every where just need a web browser now if you have the gi 1000 internal i
had that but never try it on linux
let me know what kind hardware you have i may help you tonni
Pavel Greenfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I've got the one-way Cable Modem account from RCN. Has anyone been
> successful in getting it two work with linux?
>
> (One way cable modems shouldn't be any different from Linux's point of
> view, should they?)
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> Pavel
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From: Kristian Orlopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: mount Jaz-partitions (hfs/AUX) on Linux386
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 07:28:27 +0100
Hi all specialists!
I have here a Jaz-disk (1 GB) partitioned by pdisk (about the same as
fdisk) by Linux for PPC R4. The partitions are formated like that:
1 -4 Apple System Partitions
5 hfs
6-8 e2fs
As I can no more start and access my Installation of LinuxppcR4 (it
hangs at starting apfd ) due to a configuratu�on-mistake I would like to
get access to this Jaz-disk from my Linux installed on a "normal"
Linux(386)-Box. Unluckily even the partition-table is not recognizd by
Linux386 (SuSE6.0).
The other way I tried was to get acces via the Redhat-installer, but I
could not find a rescue-system (mini-installation on a ram-disk) like in
the SuSE.
Any ides?
Thans a lot in advance
kris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey Buchsbaum)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.install
Subject: G3 PDS card usable? (mac 8100 ppc...with 3rd party accel.)
Date: 6 Mar 1999 11:09:16 -0500
Hi.
I am the lucky user of an 8100 - 100 with a G3 Newertech PDS
upgrade card that is running at 240mhz with a 160mhz 1mb cache.
Can I put a linux on this box AND get the use of the pds card.
Anyone done this?
Thanks in advance.
Jeff Buchsbaum
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From: Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Exporting Windows filesystem for Linux...
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 04:38:59 +0000
Brian Woo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to export MS-Windows filesystem and let Linux mount it?
> I have tried the following:
>
> mount -t msdos 123.123.123.2:/public /mnt/public
Is this a Win95/Win98 filesystem? If so, use -t vfat instead of
-t msdos.
>
>
> However, it wasn't successful...
> This reason that I am asking is because I wanted to use WINE to run some
> of the Win95's applications on my Linux... but unsuccessfully... Would
> Samba work? I thought Samba is just like FTP... you can only transfer
> files but not share the same file system.
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 18:19:02 -0600
You make some very good comments here, Richard, but your condescending
tone really makes it hard to read your postings objectively. IMhO.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
I miss wintertime already!!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Johnson)
Crossposted-To: vt.unix,uvm.linux,uvm.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: A LUG in Vermont
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:22:56 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marc G. Glade"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi my name is Marc Glade and I have been a user of Linux for the past
>five years. I am interested in starting a Linux Users Group in Vermont,
>particularly in the Burlington area. I think that there could be a lot
>of use out there in the snow covered countryside for a LUG in the green
>mountain state. I am looking the either start a new LUG or try and
>revitalize the now defunct SLUG-VT. The goals of this new LUG would be
>as set forth in the User-Group-HOWTO: 1) advocacy, 2) education, 3)
>support and, 4) socializing. If you would be interested in either
>joining or helping to set up a Users Group in Vermont then please send
>email to Marc Glade at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I look forward to
>hearing from you.
I'm in Brattleboro- anybody in that area? I met one guy in Hannaford's
who used Linux. It was hysterically funny seeing these two fairly hip
nerds jockeying for position, each thinking the other must surely be a
luser by statistical likelihood ;)
Chris Johnson
@airwindows.com
chrisj
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 14:42:04 -0500
C Lamb wrote:
>
> Remember, all the world isn't the US, we don't get free local calls.
>
But can you get cable modem access in the UK? If so, how much is it per month?
Mine (Pittsburgh area, USA) is $39.95 per mo.
Donn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: so, how is gnome 1.0, guys? <troll>
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 00:50:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is it as good as you expected? What does functionality does it
provide? Is it a fat pig like KDE, or does it really work with actual
working GUI? Ready to throw away emacs because xemacs is so hot under
gnome? Other boasts or horror stories to tell?
Yeah I know, I could go to the gnome site and check it for myself, but
having installed KDE it's not clear to me that I want a graphic-mode
user interface enough to deal with that level of pain again. Besides
I know you guys are looking for an excuse to brag and argue about it
<HUGEGRIN>
____________________________________________________________________________
"Always enforce your assumptions." -steve, http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: Bill Polhemus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 01:18:06 GMT
John Varela wrote:
> The New Hacker's Dictionary definition of X: "An over-sized, over-featured,
> over-engineered and incredibly over-complicated window system developed at MIT
> and widely used on Unix systems.
What other window system is available for *nix, that anyone here would recommend?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Denton)
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: linux un Virtual PC on a Mac???
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 15:56:09 -0800
In article <7bf65s$qto$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rob Funk) wrote:
> Why not just install native Mac Linux?
> http://www.linuxppc.org/
Also http://www.mklinux.apple.com/
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Matt Denton
San Francisco, USA
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From: TurboTex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Wannabe: which distribution?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 19:24:13 -0500
PHT TurboLinux is by far the easiest to install and configure at this
time.
Have a lot of fun.
And the book that comes with it is excellent.
Warrior wrote:
>
> In article <7bqpqv$9uk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Linux Wannabe: which distribution?
> > Organization: The Los Angeles Free-Net
>
> > I spent a couple of hours reading Linux books in Barnes & Noble today. I'm
> > sold on trying Linux, but can't seem to figure out whether to go for
> > Slackware or Red Hat, both of which had several good books with CDROM's
> > included. Or Debian, which my friend has chosen and recommended but Debian
> > wasn't specifically dealt with in any of the books I could find.
> Well, I don't wanna start another "what's the best distro" flame war here, but I
>personally prefer RedHat, I have
> heard that S.U.S.E is pretty good too.
> > Or should I just start out with the Moron's Guide or the Idiot's Guide to
> > Linux?
> I'd recommend "Running Linux" book published by O'Reilly.
> > Thanks very much. Since my mail server is not reliable, I'd appreciate an
> > email copy of your reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --
> Bye, Warrior.
> ICQ# 24496762
> Tagline for Saturday, March 06, 1999
> --- If all goes well, you've overlooked something!
--
Michael H. Collins * LINUX: The Official O.S. *
http://www.linuxlink.com * For The New Millennium *
I endorse PHT TurboLinux for ease of install and use.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hughett)
Subject: Re: stupid tar question
Date: 7 Mar 1999 00:52:52 GMT
tim rosen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: This is an awfully simple question, but I just can't seem to find a simple
: explanation in my various manuals. How do I extract tar files? I'm trying:
: tar -x file.tar
: and it is just freezing up.
Use
tar -xf file.tar
where the f tells tar to expect a filename rather than reading from
the tape drive.
Paul Hughett
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: best offline newsreader?
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:49:18 GMT
In our last episode (Sat, 6 Mar 1999 01:03:22 -0800),
the artist formerly known as Richard Latimer said:
>Matthias Warkus wrote in message ...
>
>>..and Richard Latimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Few in the Unix world seem to have noticed all of that stuff
>>> whizzing in and out of the world's servers:
>>
>>-all of which is not exactly useful or appreciated-
>
>I don't really know what you mean. The worth and utility of the
>content being served up would depend on the needs of the
>people producing it and consuming it. If you have no personal
>use for it, it doesn't mean that the content is valueless.
It's not very useful because it's not very portable. Besides, Linux can
handle graphics, sound and video, but in the Unix world, a newsreader is
for reading news, and separate utilities exist to handle other media, each
of which is better than the second-rate applications thrown in to
monolithic packages.
>>> Browsers,
>
>>
>>Such as Netscape?
>
>Netscape for Linux is very sad. The SmartUpdate features are
>not available.
With Linux, the human is supposed to be the smart one. And having the
bleeding edge version of program X is usually unimportant.
>The toolbar comes up in two colors.
If you're running in 16 bit color (IIRC). If X is running at 32bpp, there
are no problems.
>The plugin pages
>at Netscape are full of Windows plugins but have only about 15 or
>so plugins for Linux.
When I use Netscape, I also make sure that Java, JavaScript, cookies and
autoloading of images are off. Besides, the Web was never mean to be a
multimedia experience (and anything the Web can provide pales in comparison
to what locally-run demos can do), it's about information and knowlege
exchange. What percentage of your online time do you spend looking for
dazzling multimedia entertainment, and what percentage do you spend looking
for information?
>Shift-click to help its obtuseness. The fonts
>are crappy.
The fonts are fine. Maybe you need to set up X correctly? Hint: try
rearranging the Font Path section in XF86Config.
>The gui interface is big, bulky.
This is true, but it's basically the same as the Windows version. Try
lynx if you want a first rate interface in a browser (as well as top notch
functionality as a document retrieval and manipulation tool).
>Go to a Windows box and tour a bunch of popular Windows sites,
>then go to a Linux box and visit the same sites with Netscape and
>you will see what I mean.
This is because most popular site designers have elected to misuse HTML.
They have used the language as a page description language, which ignores
the basic premise of HTML, which is that it is a structural markup
language, and is based on the assumption that the document will be viewed
using particular browers and platforms. This is the wrong thing to do, and
it stems from people being taken in by both Netscape and Microsoft during
the browser wars. HTML is supposed to describe how a document is
organized, and the local user agent is supposed to render it according to
the needs of its owner (e.g. lynx will render a document in plain text,
Navigator with a graphical layout, and a speech synthesis browser for the
blind will be able to take the exact same properly marked up HTML and
generate a document that can be rendered aurally in an understandable
manner). For browsers that support it, layout and formatting suggestions
can be given using style sheets, CSS being the W3C's recommended standard.
When Unix users want to share presentation quality documents, they'll
likely ship them as PostScript, LaTeX dvi, groff, or possibly Acrobat pdf
files, all of which can achieve much more consistent and spectacular
results than HTML.
>I find that rpms require an aweful lot of thought. If your new rpm
>upgrade was not packaged correctly to upgrade your old rpm you
>are courting trouble. initscripts and initscripts-rhcn are not the same
>beast to rpm. You may end up with both installed and mixed.
>Libraries are another problem. Will the rpm remove all of your
>earlier libraries or just add the newer versions. Should you
>--nodeps --force?
>
>Under Windows you don't have to make these decisions.
Big brother does that for you. Seriously, the last thing we need is to
continue to encourage people to let their computers think for them. People
should understand what's going on. People's lack of understanding of how
Windows works has caused lots of problems in the past, and will probably
cause many more in the future.
>Basically I am writing about culture. Unix is now pretty much what
>it has always been for twenty years. Knowledgeable unix users are
>quite content with it. HOWTOs, running configuration files thru
>macro processors, and setting up news servers to read news-
>groups with a console app seem perfectly reasonable to unix
>users.
>
>This isn't going to fly with Windows users. They may be attracted
>by the media hoopla, but once they get a taste of the Linux desktop,
>they aren't going to stay.
The first principle of the Unix operating system was that the system should
be designed with the assumption that its users would be knowledgable. To
turn Linux or any other Unix into an idiot-proof OS would be counter
productive, and would require going back to the very beginning. Sadly,
there is no real good toaster-type system for people who just want to be
able to plug it in, have it do whatever it's supposed to and not have to
think about it, though the Mac is the closest that I'm aware of. But I'd
suggest that Linux isn't for those people. Windows isn't either -- it's
too buggy, unstable and it's becoming incredibly baroque and complicated,
but there are more (though not enough) choices than Windows and Linux.
>This is the fault of the unix community, they are just not interested in
>what has been going on around them. They too easily accept a
>culture that is now backward and out of date.
>
>Belittling people who are not willing to accept this culture does not
>help linux. It only assures the continued relegation of unix to the
>server closet.
It's not out of date. It just isn't for everyone. Most people should not
be using Linux, at least not right now, because what they want is a simple,
black box appliance, not a complex, powerful and open operating system. They
shouldn't be using Windows either, but that's a separate issue.
The point is that there are reasons why Linux is the way it is, and that the
goal of Linux developers should not be to cater to the expectations of
Windows users who want to give Linux a try on the assumption that it will be
just like Windows. The goal should rather be to explain the differences
between the two systems and their approaches and to explain why someone
might actually prefer to use a text-based application instead of a GUI one
(for example), the advantages of universal data formats, of doing things in
what might initially seem to be the hard way rather than taking the
simplistic, often brute force approach, and to explain that Linux works
under a fundamentally different set of principles than Windows, and so there
will be a lot of adjustment, learning and unlearning to do. In the end, let
the user make the decision if Linux is right for them instead of trying to
mold Linux to their expectations.
--
William
It is pitch black. You are likely to be spammed by a grue.
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xwindows too BIG
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:05:26 -0800
control alt pluss
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ryan McGuigan)
Subject: svgalib flippin out my keyboard
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 01:25:46 GMT
Hi, is there a way I can prevent my keyboard from being screwed if an
svgalib program dies... If I run the prog in a shell script, can I
execute anything after it to be sure the keyboard is freed?
thanks,
Ryan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul-S)
Subject: midi files don't seem to play very well (should they?) System - Redhat 5.2,
KDE 1.1, AWE32
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 01:28:47 GMT
Clean system, onto which I've installed Red hat 5.2, KDE 1.1
(both full install's)
Some .mid files do play, but it's almost as if, only the first track
actually plays.
I wrote a 4 track piece, and just track 1 seems to be being heard.
Other mids don't give off any sound at all.
My sound card is a non pnp (old) SB AWE32 with a Yamaha DB50XG
Daughter card attached.
Everything else seems to play OK. Wavs, MP3's, Audio CD.
Is this common, or is there something I can run to check/change
settings ?
Thank's
Paul.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Tsotras)
Subject: Re: Wanted: linux theme screen background with a rocket by night
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 23:29:22 GMT
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 10:43:02 +0100,
"Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take a look overhere:
>
> http://wm.themes.org/
I got it !
Theme: Dream Works (e.themes.org)
Thank you ! :-D
--
Christian Tsotras -- Membre de PARINUX -- 0x3CCFC2C2
Paris Linux User Group : http://www.parinux.org/
FAQ Ol�ane DIAL : http://worldserver.oleane.com/chris/
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 05 Mar 1999 19:21:43 -0500
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
>
> > >The Xeon is not a "36-bit" machine, whatever that is... It merely has a
> > >36-bit physical address bus.
> >
> > That can be interpreted as meaning it supports 36 bit address spaces, so it
> > is a true statement.
>
> That interpretation is simply incorrect. Virtual addresses (which are
> the only kind that normal instructions ever deal with in protected
> mode) are 32 bits wide, just as in all x86 processors from the 80386
> on up. The processor (in hardware, by referring to the page tables)
> translates these virtual addresses into physical memory addresses.
> It's immaterial how wide the physical address bus is. The physical
> address bus could be 20 bits wide (not that I'd care to use such a
> machine), or 32 bits wide, or 40 bits wide. The kernel sets up the
> mapping between virtual addresses and physical memory; the processor
> actually performs the mapping in hardware, and the user code never
> knows the difference.
riddle me this, how can i have more than 4 GB of data accessible from
one program?
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cron + scripts
Date: 7 Mar 1999 02:31:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marko Brandes scribbled manically:
: The script itself executes fine, but if i try to call it by cron nothing
: happens. Not even a mail is send that something went wrong.
: My crontab entry is:
: 0 0 * * * root /usr/bin/cleartmp
: Any ideas?
What the heck is "root" doing in there? You have seven fields in that
crontab entry...six is normal, unless you're using some odd variant or
feature of cron that I don't know about and my system's manpages don't mention.
So try removing "root" first. If you want it to _run_ as root, then you put
it in root's crontab. I would also try making it run at a time other than
precisely midnight...maybe it's just superstition, but other admins have
warned me against making crontab entries that run exactly on the hour. Also,
is there some particular reason you feel it necessary to clear /tmp every
night? Things could be _using_ those files, you know, and yanking the files
out from beneath the processes' feet sounds like a bad idea.
JD
--
"Satan, danger of....p. 627" - _Essential_System_Administration_, p. 748
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Subject: Re: stupid tar question
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06 Mar 1999 19:56:06 -0500
tim rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is an awfully simple question, but I just can't seem to find a simple
> explanation in my various manuals. How do I extract tar files? I'm trying:
>
> tar -x file.tar
try
tar xf file.tar
if it's gzipped you can use
tar xzf file.tar.gz
sometimes .tar.gz is contracted to .tgz.
for .tar.bz2 files, use
bzip2 -cd file.tar.bz2 | tar xf -
note, you can add v to tar for a verbose output.
tar xvf file.tar
will list the files as it unpacks them.
hope this helps.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Ned Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Help: Newbie doesn't know where to start with GNOME!
Date: 6 Mar 1999 19:38:03 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jik- wrote:
> I played with KDE1 (or close) in SuSE a while back,...its still a lot
> the same as it was back then...there are things I would have liked to be
> different, but all and all it is quite nice. The developers did one
> fine job.
>
> GNOME seems to be a RedHat baby, they never did a very good job of
> making sure it worked on other platforms....KDE on the other
> hand,...well they just did a better job.
If you try to install GNOME from SuSE YaST, a box pops up with
this message:
"GNOME is still in an early development stage. It may happen that
GNOME applications crashes (sic) of produces strange effects".
>
> Both could be improved greatly. You actually loose quite a bit from
> those setups, and gain very little in return...just a common UI and some
> DnD...with some time you can get a better UI tailor made...and DnD is
> becoming more commonplace.
What I wish KDE had is an explicit "Kill" command like Fvwm has.
Sometimes
programs will get stuck, and the "Close" box don't do nuttin',
just like in
Windoze, and I gotta restart KDE to get 'em to die.
--
Ned Carlson Triode Electronics "where da tubes are!"
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Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 20:45:40 -0500
From: Andy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
> On Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:00:38, Werner Kliewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The UNIX and therefore Linux version of this, as invented by Xerox (hence
> > the name) and since enhanced over about 20-30 years is called X-Windows.
Actually, it's called X because the windowing system that came before it was
called W. What comes after W? X.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: UNIX/Linux book request for SysAdms
Date: 7 Mar 1999 02:41:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled manically:
: What do you recommend that I purchase as an authorative, concise book about
: UNIX/Linux System Administration books? I have seen a lot, but does anyone
: out there who is a UNIX SysAdm have a book that they would recommend?
Go to your local bookstore, find the O'Reilly books, and look for
'Essential System Administration' (the armadillo book). It's not a be-all
and end-all, but it's very good.
JD
--
"Satan, danger of....p. 627" - _Essential_System_Administration_, p. 748
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