Linux-Misc Digest #339, Volume #27 Sun, 11 Mar 01 23:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: memory management (Yvan Loranger)
Re: wine (Yvan Loranger)
Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc? (Radovan Garabik)
Re: how to network? (Conrad Newton)
Bootable backup CDs (Ed Ohsone)
Re: r/w attribs when burning CDs for DOS (Dances With Crows)
Re: ssh on RedHat 6.2 (Dances With Crows)
Re: upgrading suse 7.0 to 2.4.2 ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: Bootable backup CDs (Dances With Crows)
easy question: ls -l (Chris Czeyka)
switch OS without rebooting? (Potter Wickware)
TOUCH SCREEN COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE FOR SUSE 7.1 ("Robert L. Cochran Jr.")
Re: help: LILO through a Serial Terminal problems (Cokey de Percin)
HELP: Netscape preferences (wroot)
Re: easy question: ls -l (Jan Schaumann)
Re: switch OS without rebooting? (Jan Schaumann)
Re: cross-posting (wroot)
file xfer stops, only on debian sites (Alex Graf)
Re: .profile file in Mandrake? (John Scudder)
USB Scanner? (John Scudder)
can't ssh except as root! (Carolyn Jean Fairman)
Re: switch OS without rebooting? (Rod Smith)
Re: Netscape on Linux (The Real Bev)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: memory management
Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
> Mihai Cartoaje wrote:
>> also sprach Jean-David Beyer:
>> > I do not know why there is a difference, but the chances are that the
>> > difference is in the amount of buffer or disk cache space used. Since
>> > the Linux kernel manages these, and tends to keep such space occupied,
>> > I suppose that RedHat has used more IO buffers or more disk cache
>> > space in coming up than Slackware did.
>>
>> I did not mention this in my last post, but the numbers I quoted were
>> from the +/- buffers/cache column. Isn't free supposed to substract the
>> memory used from buffers and add the memory used for cache in this
>> column?
That line from free is poorly labeled: interpret as total mem used if you
subtract (ignore) mem for buffers & cache, total mem free if you add
(ignore) mem for buffers & cache.
I dont' know the answer to your original question. Maybe the mem is still
occupied even though you deactivated services?
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Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: wine
Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
"The Webbs" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> i have wine, but do not get the windows desktop. I've seen people run wine
> with a desktop, but I can't. I have Linux-Mandrake 7.0
wine --help
there you'll see options --managed & --desktop 800x600 for example
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Merci.........................Yvan Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncf.ca/vertige
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From: Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone ever ran Linux on Sun Sparc?
Date: 11 Mar 2001 23:27:17 GMT
Pjtg0707 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi all,
: I have a couple of Sparc 2 machines I am thinking about getting them up
: and running again, and I am pondering if I shoud load them up with
: Redhat Linux or stick with Solaris. I am wondering what the software
: availability and performance will be like with Linux comparing to
: Solaris.
I once had an old Sparc (maybe 425, I do not remember exactly what it
was) I cannot comment on solaris, since I got it without root password
and my first action was to wipe solaris out and install linux :-), but
linux (debian 2.2) was extremely slow on the machine - albeit it was
possible to work on it, but it was not pleasant experience.... e.g.
dragging windows in window manager took forever...
then I tried NetBSD on the beast, and was surprised on how much better
it performs compared to linux... best of all, windows in window manager
came swiftly :-)
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From: Conrad Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to network?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:07:39 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have two linux boxes on my desk. What is the easiest way to connect
> them so I can telnet and ftp from one to the other? Each box has a plug
> and play ethernet card. I've read the various howtos, but they seem to be
> overkill.
You can have a look at my online manual, specifically the two chapters
entitled
1) Ethernet: Your Home Network, and if necessary 2) The Ethernet Card.
http://home.world-online.no/~ackleppe/newton/linux.html
http://home.world-online.no/~ackleppe/newton/redhat6/
Good luck, Conrad
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From: Ed Ohsone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Bootable backup CDs
Date: 12 Mar 2001 00:56:48 GMT
I would like to make backups of my hard drives on multiple CDs.
It seems there are some tools for linux, like cdrecord, but
I do not know if there exist tools which can create bootable CDs.
MS Windows world has some tools capable of this task.
Are there any in linux world?
Since my system is mutiboot with win95, linux6.1, freeBSD, Solarisx86, etc,
each of them taking about 2GB, ideal tool should be able to create bootable
CDs for all of the OSs.
I am not familiar with booting mechanism. So there may be some
special way of creating bootable CDs with cnventional tools like cdrecord.
I would appreciate any pointer/comment.
Thanks in advance.
============
Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: r/w attribs when burning CDs for DOS
Date: 12 Mar 2001 01:00:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:14:31 +0000 (UTC), David Efflandt staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:35:58 +0100, malicorne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>>
>> I am making backups of Win/DOS data on CDROM using mkisofs and
>> cdrecord.
>>Works all right, but when I copy this data in a directory to use with
>>Windows every single file is marked as read-only, which is not very
>>useful and a bit of a hassle to fix since the DOS attrib command is
>>not recursive on sub-directories I think.
>
>I don't think it is just a Windows thing. Since you are copying them from
>a read-only media, the destination files end up with the same non-write
>permission of the files on cd. I have this same problem with work related
>CD-R written by Windows or Mac, no write permission.
[snip]
Why not put the files you want to transfer into a ZIP or a tarball? The
nice thing about archive file formats like those is that they preserve
attributes as well as compressing files and packing many files into one.
Note that WinZip can read tarballs as well as ZIP files.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ssh on RedHat 6.2
Date: 12 Mar 2001 01:00:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:40:20 GMT, buffalo staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>I'm trying to install ssh rpms on my RedHat 6.2 box. New versions of
>initscripts and glibc are required. I've heard I can break my system
>by switching to the higher version of glibc. Is this true? What
>advice?
Compile ssh from source? All the initscripts would do is start sshd at
some point; you can just put "/usr/local/sbin/sshd" into
/etc/rc.d/rc.local for that. I have no idea why ssh requires a glibc
upgrade; I have compiled ssh and openssh on machines with glibc 2.0 and
2.1 with no problems.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: upgrading suse 7.0 to 2.4.2
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:12:56 +0800
thank you. it works now.
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> Wong Ching Kuen Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Jan Hackel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > news:98a7pl$1504u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > i compile as usual, and then make dep, make bzImage, make modules,
make
> >> > modules_install. however, after the system reboot, it says that
mod_probe
> >> > cannot find the modules?! why?! i am sure they are compiled and
install.
> >> > moreover, i find out that the structure of /lib/modules/2.2.16 is
different
> >> > from that of 2.4.2. is this the cause?! any help will be appreciated.
> >>
> >> Perhaps you will have to update your modutils. You may get them here:
> >> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.4/
> >>
> > i have upgraded the modutils to latest version also. is there any other
> > reason for this?
>
> No. Now it's entirely your own fault.
>
> Upgrading modutils (and the rest of the stuff noted in the CCchanges
> file) is all you have to do. Run depmod and be happy.
>
> Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Bootable backup CDs
Date: 12 Mar 2001 02:15:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 12 Mar 2001 00:56:48 GMT, Ed Ohsone staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>I would like to make backups of my hard drives on multiple CDs.
>It seems there are some tools for linux, like cdrecord, but
>I do not know if there exist tools which can create bootable CDs.
>
>MS Windows world has some tools capable of this task.
>Are there any in linux world?
>Since my system is mutiboot with win95, linux6.1, freeBSD, Solarisx86, etc,
>each of them taking about 2GB, ideal tool should be able to create bootable
>CDs for all of the OSs.
>
>I am not familiar with booting mechanism. So there may be some
>special way of creating bootable CDs with cnventional tools like cdrecord.
>
>I would appreciate any pointer/comment.
cdrecord does not create a bootable CD; it just takes an ISO9660 image
and writes it to a CD. Check the man page for mkisofs, paying attention
to the -b and -c options. The basic idea is that you create a 1.4 or
2.8M floppy image, then specify the name of that image to mkisofs in the
-b option. I don't think you can specify more than one boot image
though. However, if you get the 2.8M image of Tom's RootBoot, you can
make a bootable CD that will boot into a Linux rescue system that has
enough stuff to recover any Linux installation. If you choose an
appropriate format for your backups, you can probably use Tom's to
restore Win9x, *BSD, and Solarisx86 installations as well.
Check freshmeat.net for CD-R backup tools. The 2.8M Tom's image is
available at http://www.toms.net/rb/ .
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
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From: Chris Czeyka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: easy question: ls -l
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:40:00 +0900
Maybe I just have to sneak through some books, but I just ask directly:
What does the "total" value means in the first line of "ls -l"? Is it the
amount of KB in the directory?
best greets,
Chris
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From: Potter Wickware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: switch OS without rebooting?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:40:52 GMT
Hi all --
Somewhere I heard of a way to switch from Linux to Win without
rebooting. Is this possible? I suspected it might be a product by V-COM
but I don't see anything on their site. Anyone know what I'm talking
about?
Thx
Pete
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From: "Robert L. Cochran Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: TOUCH SCREEN COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE FOR SUSE 7.1
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:47:28 -0500
Is there any commercial Linux-based touch screen restaurant software
that will do the following
1. Accept order entries from multiple workstations for up to guest
tables and large dining parties/banquets
2. Prints guest checks for each table or dining party
3. Accept employee clock-ins and clock-outs for 40-50 employees
4. Maintain cash register and sales totals
5. Provide a variety of other functions, mostly related to payroll. For
example: tracking tips by server.
6. Works on Linux, either SuSE 7.1 or Red Hat
7. Allows remote access to payroll data -- perhaps with the ability to
transmit payroll data directly to a payroll management company
contracted to print payroll checks. Remote access may be accomplished
through a VPN.
8. Can be remotely supported by a restaurant employee and a technical
consultant hired for the purpose
9. Can be evaluated on a trial basis for at least 60 days by at least
3-4 different people in different locations.
10. Can accept the sales and employee data maintained by a certain
Windows-based touch screen restaurant software system (R/Power) and
easily convert it to the new format as and if needed
11.Can be installed and running by the next morning, in time for
breakfast.
Is such an application out there? I'd appreciate being pointed in the
right direction. Please feel free to email me privately if you wish.
Thanks!
Bob Cochran
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help: LILO through a Serial Terminal problems
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 02:44:52 GMT
John in SD wrote:
>
> You don't state what version of LILO you are using. There was an update
> several months ago, so that LILO asserts RTS and DTR.
>
> --John
>
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:18:26 GMT, "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to configure Linux to boot and operate from a serial terminal.
> >
> >It mostly works. To do this added the following lines to the lilo.conf
> >file:
> >
> > serial=0,9600n8 (in the global section)
> > ...
> > append="console=ttyS0" (in the image section)
> >
> >However, I have a couple labeled images that I want to chose from at the
> >LILO boot prompt. According to LILO documentation I should be able to add
> >the "serial=..." in LILO's global section and LILO's boot can be performed
> >through the terminal (VT100 in my case) connected to the specified serial
> >port. The console output is correctly send through the serial port.
> >
> >THE PROBLEM is that no terminal input is recieved from the serial terminal.
> >Consequently, I cannot select my LILO boot image from the remote terminal.
> >The terminal input works once Linux boots and it's in a shell. It appears
> >that only LILO is not processing the serial terminal input.
> >
> >Has anyone seen this problem? Any solutions?
> >
> >Your help is appreciated.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
>
I've been using serial terminals on headless boxes for years. I know it worked
with the 2.0 kernels (patched?) and might have worked with the 1.x kernels with
patches, so it shouldn't be a lilo problem. Here's what my Lilo.conf looks
like:
boot=/dev/rd/c0d0
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
serial="0,9600n8"
prompt
timeout=50
message=/etc/lilo.message
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2
label=l242
append="console=ttyS0,9600"
read-only
root=/dev/rd/c0d0p2
Note that the 'serial' options are in quotes and there is a speed after the
console device.
Best
Cokey
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: HELP: Netscape preferences
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:09:06 -0500
Hi,
I need to get my Netscape 4.7 to to play *.au files when I click on links
to them. In command prompt I play them with
play *.au
In Edit/Preferences/Netscape/Applications, what should I put in
1) Description
2) MIMEType
3) Suffixes
4) Application
Thanks in advance
Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: easy question: ls -l
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:12:31 GMT
* Chris Czeyka wrote:
> Maybe I just have to sneak through some books, but I just ask directly:
>
> What does the "total" value means in the first line of "ls -l"? Is it the
> amount of KB in the directory?
man ls
total xx - xx is the number of blocks used in this directory, per
default reported in blocks of 512 bytes (unless the environment variable
BLOCKSIZE is set to some other value >=512). If you use "-k", it will
report the number of blocks used in blocks of 1024 bytes (=kilobytes).
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
http://usvms.gpo.gov/ms-final2.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: switch OS without rebooting?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:13:22 GMT
* Potter Wickware wrote:
> Hi all --
>
> Somewhere I heard of a way to switch from Linux to Win without
> rebooting. Is this possible? I suspected it might be a product by V-COM
> but I don't see anything on their site. Anyone know what I'm talking
> about?
Maybe you're talking about vmware?
-Jan
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Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
http://usvms.gpo.gov/ms-final2.html
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cross-posting
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:16:20 -0500
Floyd Davidson wrote:
> I think that should be DO NOT set followups-to on crossposts
> unless there is some specific reason.
I guess I should apologize for the "followup-to" header. It seems to be
KNode's default behavior to enable it, and I wasn't paying attention.
Wroot
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From: Alex Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: file xfer stops, only on debian sites
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:09:17 -0800
I use pppd to access the internet through a 115,200 bps null-modem
arragement, and it works fine: with one exception:
File downloads stop after about 38000 bytes, and never start again.
Even stranger, this ONLY happens when downloading Debian packages from
Debian sites. HTTP, FTP, using apt-get or manually with ftp, tried lots
of mirror sites, it doesn't matter. I get about 38000 bytes, and that's
it. Apt eventually complains about a socket timeout.
I thought it was serial port overruns, and took all the steps to prevent
that (pppd options, irqtune, hdparm, lower speed), but that doesn't make
much sense as downloads work fine on any other file from any other
site. It's only the debian sites I can't download from -- Packages.gz,
.deb files, anything. I'm stumped. Any ideas?
I use the plain debian potato distribution
A
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: .profile file in Mandrake?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:29:56 -0500
Thanks All,
.bash_profile it is. Everything works fine now.
John
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]When I was using SuSE 6.3 I put some startup commands a .profile file
> ]and placed it in my /home directory. These commands were executed when
> ]I logged in. Now I am using Mandrake 7.2 and tried the same trick but
> ]for some reason the file is not beign read. Doesn't Mandrake support
> ]the .profile file?
>
> Use .bash_profile for login commands, and .bashrc for "each shell"
> commands.
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB Scanner?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:30:48 -0500
Will a USB Scanner work under Linux?
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carolyn Jean Fairman)
Subject: can't ssh except as root!
Date: 11 Mar 2001 19:34:48 -0800
I have Yellow Dog linux on my G3 at home. I use a dsl line and set up
the command to start a dsl connection at boot. It all worked great I
though but then that was because I was root. As any other user I
cannot see the outside world even though as root I did a second ago.
Any ideas on what I need to configure? Thanks!
Carolyn Fairman
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Carolyn Fairman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: switch OS without rebooting?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 03:44:13 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Potter Wickware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi all --
>
> Somewhere I heard of a way to switch from Linux to Win without
> rebooting. Is this possible? I suspected it might be a product by V-COM
> but I don't see anything on their site. Anyone know what I'm talking
> about?
V Communications (http://www.v-com.com) makes various disk utilities,
the most popular of which is probably System Commander. This is a boot
loader, similar to LILO in some ways but with a somewhat different mix
of options. Neither it nor any other V Communications product will let
you switch between OSs without rebooting. In fact, the concept doesn't
really make any sense, because two OSs can't fully share a single
computer, at least not on x86 hardware. The closest thing to what you
describe is an emulator like Win4Lin (http://www.trelos.com) or VMware
(http://www.vmware.com). These let you run one OS within another.
Typically, the emulator sets up a partial or complete simulated
computer, so the OS running in the emulator thinks it's running in a
separate computer, and doesn't have direct access to the real low-level
hardware. This is acceptable for many purposes, but does have
drawbacks. For instance, the emulated OS typically runs more slowly
than it does when running directly on the same computer.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux & multi-OS configuration
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From: The Real Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape on Linux
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:00:44 -0800
John wrote:
>
> bmeson wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm using Redhat 6.2 with 1028x768 resolution monitor. I found the
> > character display in netscape is rather crude and ugly. And I tried
> > various font setting in vain. The IE and Netscape in the Windows dual
> > system on the same machine are fine.
> >
> > Does anyone here have same problem? Any suggestion?
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Well last time I ran stock RH 6.2 it came with XFree86 3.3.6 or something
> like that. What you need to do is to install a program called xfstt. It is
> a truetype font rendering server for X. It makes fonts look as beautiful as
> fonts in windoze or MacOS.
Not quite, but generally way better than the ones it comes with.
> Try finding a tarball or .rpm on freshmeat.net and follow the instructions
> there, its not hard. I've done it a lot of times because I really hate
> those non-scalable "fonts" that come with X.
The problem with using TT fonts is that unless you like the 12-point size,
you'll have to resize them each time you start netscape. Nuisance.
The other problem is that you can't have netscape see both a normal and a
bold font in the .ttf subdirectory. Whichever one it finds first is the
only one it will use. And some fonts look really crummy in the size you
want, so expect to do a lot of playing around. I ended up choosing
11-point Arial bold for everything. Gates must know something...
> Also. You must have some ttf fonts available to the system. If you have a
> windoze box try searching in \windows\fonts (correct ?)
Just search for ttf in windows and you'll find LOTS.
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Cheers,
Bev
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