Linux-Misc Digest #339, Volume #21 Mon, 9 Aug 99 08:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Was: sndconfig, cron, now: soundcard vs. ethercard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
printk ??? (Villy Kruse)
Re: What I think of linux. (Mith)
Re: Media key for staroffice 5.0 (Philipp Maier)
Re: Web Browsing without X ("Dan Cave")
Re: LxDoom... How? (Peter Caffin)
Re: Java makes Netscape crash (Con Tassios)
yacc libraries (ben)
Re: How to download Linux? (Tom Shannon)
Re: helping the Third World (Matthias Warkus)
Re: helping the Third World (John M Dow)
Re: disable nfs services (Gerd Mayer)
Re: C structure size inconsitency (Gergo Barany)
Re: CDROM driver not supported in RH 6 install (Robert Heller)
Origin (Alessandro Magni)
Re: Have you heard? (Robin Becker)
Re: Have you heard? (Robin Smith)
How to get rid of -"Hidden" email containing Folder Information (Ben Short)
Re: guaranteed annual income ("Otto")
Re: DDS-3 SCSI Tape Drive + Red Hat 6.0 (yan seiner)
Re: www.phatlinux.com - crashes NS? (Big Daddy)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Was: sndconfig, cron, now: soundcard vs. ethercard
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 17:22:30 -0400
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/08/99
at 02:52 PM, Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Almost all of these sound like directly or indirectly related to loss of
>the PATH variable in your environment but YES it sounds like your
>environment is messed up. insmod command not found and having to type
>./sndconfig , etc. are all symptomatic of having lost the environment.
>Bob
Thanks for the reply - I had given up hope.
Actually, the above problems cleared themselves up miraculously. Say, does
it make any difference (as far as PATH info goes) if you log in directly
as root or via SU? Anyway, I don't have this problem due to no insight of
my own.
What I'm struggling with now is some kind of conflict between (I think) my
ethernet card and my sound card. I simply can't find a combination that
permits coexistence. The sndconfig is less helpful than it ought to be;
I've taken to trying to manipulate isapnp.conf and conf.modules by hand.
It looks like RedHat somehow virtualizes info about the 3com card because
it allows net access even when the io and irq values in
/etc/isapnp/conf.modules don't quite match what I know are inscribed on
the card.
The Crystal sound card (Genius Sound Maker) just won't install properly.
If I have it running, I can't access the net.
I think this is my last major installation headache.
F.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: printk ???
Date: 9 Aug 1999 10:43:35 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Could this have to do with the "Use versioning on kernel syms" setting?
>Just a wild idea...
>
Try grep printk from /proc/ksyms on a system with versioning enabled
and get something like
001141b0 printk_Rad1148ba
So your wild idea is confirmed.
BTW: it has nothing to do wich c++ mangling.
Villy
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From: Mith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 03:15:51 -0500
Tim Hanson wrote:
>
> alann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >You're right, somewhat. I would be curious as to the average age of Linux
> >users. I'm 34. First computer I ever had my hands on was a Commodore PET.
> >That was a LONG time ago. Right now there are a gazillion Windows users.
>
> 51 here. My first was a Radio Shack PC-2 (still around here someplace), then an
Ya'll are makin me feel really young... 16... first computer experience
was a Apple IIe I believe.... first computer owned was a 286... (later
down the road I did own an XT though... I still rememeber Prince of
Persia... hehe.. that game kicked! and the gui it had was sooooo much
better than windows... I cant remember what it was the system is at a
freinds) I never had the pleasure of using a C64... I used DOS over
windows religiously until Win95 came out (had to play those games!!!)...
In '97 I fooled around with slackware but never really got the system
stable and switched back to winblowz... But once again I've gotten sick
of M$ (and the fact that my computer likes to spontaniously reboot
itself?) and as soon as my dad gets a shipment of writeable cds @ work
I'm installing RH6.0 (because I got hooked last week when I had to goto
work with him)...
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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Media key for staroffice 5.0
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:21:18 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Badarte wrote:
>
> I am new to Linux.
>
> I installed suse 6.1 and was unable to install staroffice 5 because it kept
> asking me for some media key #.
...
> Can someone help me? How and where do i get this media key #?
Very simple: Look at the first page of your manual.
Otherwise: Register at www.stardivision.com, which is free.
Philipp Maier
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From: "Dan Cave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web Browsing without X
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:27:38 +0100
Ralph
Try using a tool called lynx, part of the standard linux distribution.
http://lynx.browser.org/
Kind Regards
Daniel Cave,
SGI Consulting,
1530 Arlington Business Park
Theale, Reading, RG7 4SB.
DDI: 0118 925 7584
Fax: 0118 925 7680
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Does anyone out there know of any command-line graphical web browsers that
>use graph libraries (libSVGA or others) instead of depending on X? This is
>just for evaluation to determine if a thin Linux client could be used for
>our kiosks instead of Windows, and it does not matter if it is freeware or
>commercial.
>Thanks for responding,
>Ralph
>______________________________________________________________
>Ralph Allan Rice
>Computer Science, University of Akron
>
>
>
>
>
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LxDoom... How?
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:28:19 +0000
Heeeeeeeez back! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've downloaded LxDoom, the doomwad and boomlump.wad, but now, after
> following all the instructions, I am totally stumped.
> WITH the boomlump.wad installed in the same directory, it seems to get a
> little further and then halts with
> You cannot -file with the shareware version, Register!
You shouldn't need to call boomlump.wad with the -file argument at
all. Make sure those files are correctly named in your boom.cfg, eg:
# [string ("boomlump.wad")]files to load automatically, separated by ;'s
auto_load "/usr/games/lxdoom2/boomlump.wad"
# [string ("/usr/local/games/sndserv")]path to sound server (UNIX)
soundsrv "/usr/games/lxdoom2/sndserv"
# [string ("/usr/local/games/musserv")]path to music server (UNIX)
musicsrv "/usr/games/lxdoom2/musserv"
Hope that helps.
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From: Con Tassios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Java makes Netscape crash
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:53:03 +1000
I also had Netscape crash every time it hit a Java app, this was with a
newly installed RedHat 6.0 system with hardly anything changed from the
standard installation. Netscape ended up behaving itself once I put the
following lines in .tcshrc
setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/lib/netscape
setenv CLASSPATH /usr/lib/netscape/java/classes/java40.jar
>
> I've just upgraded to Netscape 4.6 cos 4.5 crashed every time it hit a
> Java applet. 4.6 does exactly the same thing.
>
> I had been told previously that to fix the crashing problem I should do:
>
> chkfontpath --add /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi
>
> This just gives me the message:
>
> chkfontpath: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi already in list
>
> for both 4.5 and 4.6, and fixes no problems in neither. I _need_ to be
> able to view Java applets in a browser. Does anyone know how to fix this
> problem.
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From: ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: yacc libraries
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:36:37 +0800
hi, I am trying to compile a yacc generated file, but I get following
error:
$ gcc y.tab.c -ll
/tmp/ccc00459: In function `yyparse':
/tmp/ccc00459(.text+0xcc): undefined reference to `yyerror'
/tmp/ccc00459(.text+0x4a2): undefined reference to `yyerror'
I obviously have to link some library but which one? (liby as I read
somewhere on the net is not working)
$ gcc y.tab.c -ll -ly
ld: cannot open -ly: No such file or directory
thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Shannon)
Subject: Re: How to download Linux?
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 17:56:56 -04-59
On Thu, 05 Aug 1999 21:16:03 -0500, Ted R Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>2. Right now I'm running Windows 98. If I download linux onto my
>windows-formatted HDD, how can I then use the linux? Or, in the
>alternative, how can I format a HDD for linux ... *before* I have linux?
I haven't tried this but I understand that linux can be installed via
ftp. That is, you install while connected. This may be the solution
to your problem. It may also help with question number 1 as you'll be
able to refuse to install all extras. I really don't know how much
that is, though.
The instructions for doing this are at http://www.redhat.com .
You really should consider a CDROM installation at least the first
time. You can get one at http://www.cheapbytes.com for about $3.00.
That's reaaly not too much is it?
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:04:50 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Sun, 08 Aug 1999 21:21:06 +0600...
..and Mr Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Phil Hunt wrote:
> >
> > In article <derobert-0808990411060001@209-122-254
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Anthony DeRobertis" writes:
> > > OTOH, you have a country that has been on the balance more libratarian
> > > than any other. And it is one of the most prosperous on Earth. Draw your
> > > own conclusions.
> >
> > The most libertarian country currently is Somalia -- there the govmt
> > taxes 0% of people's wealth, because there isn't a govmt.
> A good point. And Sierra-Leone is a close second <g>. (Although they
> chop off the hands and feet off of one another, but they hardly suffer
> from the evils of a big government right now.)
ESR, probably the best-known libertarian anarcho-capitalist guy
in the Linux community, once told me what his Utopia looked like. He
said that it would be pretty close to 19th century gold mining camps
in Montana or such -- as he said "lots of guns and hardly any crime at
all".
This guy is bonkers! You can't build a society on the model of a camp
where the population consists of 100% gold diggers.
mawa
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-- Mike Lawrie, Director, Computing Services, Rhodes University, South
Africa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: John M Dow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: helping the Third World
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:31:26 +0100
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> OTOH, you have a country that has been on the balance more libratarian
> than any other. And it is one of the most prosperous on Earth. Draw your
> own conclusions.
The Jerry Springer show is evidence enough of your country's properity,
thankyouverymuch.
J
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Let It Run.
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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:35:53 +0200
From: Gerd Mayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disable nfs services
> My kernel (2.2.9) is compiled without nfs support. But at the start, I get
> some
> messages about it (like starting nfs daemon [failed]). How can I get rid of
> this
> annoying messages ?
> My distrib is a Mandrake (RH) 6.0.
Perhaps you should delete the two links S??nfs* and K??nfs* in the
directory for the standard-runlevel.
Don't know exactly the name and directory for a RH but under SuSE it's
/etc/rc.d/rc2.d/S....
Hope it helps
Gerd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: C structure size inconsitency
Date: 8 Aug 1999 14:06:50 GMT
Andreas Hinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 8 Aug 1999 10:32:42 GMT, Gergo Barany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> The only correct return type for main() is int.
>>
>Thank you for the hint.
No problem.
>>Why stderr?
>>
>Because 'printf(' and 'fprintf(stdout' dosn't print anything on the sreeen.
>I don't know why.
Weird.
>>It doesn't matter what you think it should be.
>>
>It most certainly does. If I create a file with a specific data structure,
>an other program can not read this file correctly.
>And exactly that is the problem.
>
>Creating a file with the above data structure in DOS and reading it in Linux
>fails because of this.
>
>I just want to know why it does it and what the system behind this is.
>So i can find a solution.
Saving stuff in binary form is a bad idea, for exactly the reasons you
have problems with it. The sizes of types and padding differ between
operating systems, hardware platforms, compilers, and sometimes even
different versions of the same compiler.
See question 20.5 of the C FAQ:
http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html
>>If your program relies on a specific size for structs, you are probably
>>doing something wrong.
>>
>Why? Do you see anything wrong with the shown structures? I don't.
The structures are OK, your intent to save them in binary form isn't.
Gergo
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CDROM driver not supported in RH 6 install
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:47:40 GMT
"Bowyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:37:30 -0400, wrote :
">
"> I'm trying to install RedHat 6 from a CD, but the installation program only
"> has about 10 CDROM drivers to choose from and none of them work for me. Can
"> someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Thanks in advance and sorry if this is
"> a dumb question.
What kind of CD-ROM drive do you have? If it is an IDE / ATAPI drive,
just select the generic IDE/ATAPI drive. Otherwise if it is SCSI,
select Yes for SCSI controller and select your SCSI controller type, if
asked. Once the SCSI controller is configured, the CD-ROM will be
automatically detected.
Otherwise there are only about 10 "other" CDROMs, that use special
drivers (are any of these still made?).
">
"> Matt Bowyer
"> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
">
">
">
">
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From: Alessandro Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Origin
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 12:56:26 +0200
I need to use Microcal Origin at work.
At the same time, I'm trying to switch from Win to Linux.
Does somebody know a good software to be used under Linux,
with similar functions?
Thanks
Alessandro
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:06:00 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Timothy Izod
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> If no one proves they hacked in; this is not proof that no one did (or
>> could). M$ is heading for a big fall if it announces that it has any
>> kind of hacker proof system.
>
>
> I'd quite like them to announce it. It would make me laugh for
>months:) Even better for us in the UK would be if we could get a judge
>to rule that software was definitely goods and not services.
>Merchantable quality? Ha. That would eat into their profit margin :)
>
wow that would be a good day for us all
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From: Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Have you heard?
Date: 09 Aug 1999 12:02:02 +0100
Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Timothy Izod
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> If no one proves they hacked in; this is not proof that no one did (or
> >> could). M$ is heading for a big fall if it announces that it has any
> >> kind of hacker proof system.
> >
> >
> > I'd quite like them to announce it. It would make me laugh for
> >months:) Even better for us in the UK would be if we could get a judge
> >to rule that software was definitely goods and not services.
> >Merchantable quality? Ha. That would eat into their profit margin :)
> >
> wow that would be a good day for us all
> --
> Robin Becker
According to this weeks Economist magazine, Microsoft did not make a
profit in 1998. The logic for this is this for Microsoft and all other
firms that give incentives by share options (stock options in USA ) to
their staff do not deduct the cost of the options from the
accounts. If they did this then the 1998 $4.5 billion profits becomes
an $18 billion loss !!!
( Economist Magazine August 7th-13th 1999 page 19 ).
Sorry to go off thread with some economics
Robin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: How to get rid of -"Hidden" email containing Folder Information
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:05:00 +1000
Hi,
Is there any way to remove the Folder Data email that is 'Hidden" unless
you cat /var/spool/mail/<user>?
This file is recreated when deleted, but in doing so causes most of my
programs to misreport the mail status as having one mail message, when I
actually have 0.
Is there any *real* purpose of this file, and can it be disabled in any
way?
Thanks
Ben
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: guaranteed annual income
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 11:09:11 GMT
A.T.Z. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Richard Kulisz schreef:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >The both of you are talking about two different social systems. Social
> > >security in countries like Holland and Belgium is totally different
from
> > >social security in the States,
> >
> > What the hell are you talking about? We are *both* talking about
> > Europe since there isn't any social security in the States.
>
> You don't know what you're talking about.
>
The social security system Europe is totally different from the US system.
In the US it's generally associated with retirement, while in Europe
everybody is eligible regardless of the age. One could say, that if you
combine the welfare with social security, that would be the europian social
security system. The benefits are also more generous, when compared to the
states. In some respect, there's no such system in place in the US.
Otto
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From: yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: DDS-3 SCSI Tape Drive + Red Hat 6.0
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:51:55 +0000
The drive has an attention light on the front that comes on when it's
time to clean the heads. It comes on about every 8-9 days, or 20-30
hours of tape drive use. We clean the heads as soon as it comes on.
ALso, we use Fuji tapes - these were recommended as having a low failure
rate. I'm open to suggestions on tapes as well.
Yan
Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>
> yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I use the wangtek with no problems. The tapes seem to have a high
> >failure rate, though - two out of 8 failed in 6 months.
>
> How often do you use a cleaning cartridge?
>
> >Is this normal for a DDS-3?
>
> No.
>
> Wolfgang
>
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: www.phatlinux.com - crashes NS?
Date: 9 Aug 1999 11:28:35 GMT
Scribbling furiously, Justin B Willoughby managed to write....
: Netscape Gold 3.04 & Netscape 4.05 for Linux had no problems for me.
hrrrm............ Well, thanks for the input. ;-) Maybe it's just my
install......
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