Linux-Misc Digest #339, Volume #25                Fri, 4 Aug 00 09:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Jonathan Thornburg)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)
  Re: enter www from behind firewall (Nicolette de Bruijn)
  Source profile in X terminals ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: diskquota and mail (jtoy)
  Re: diskquota and mail (jtoy)
  GAIM icons ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: StarOffice 5.2 Install Problem (aflinsch)
  Re: Java path! (Robert Clayton)
  Help!! apache scripts and setuid (jtoy)
  Re: Help!! apache scripts and setuid (jtoy)
  Re: rsh and password (Peter Nobels)
  Re: Help!! apache scripts and setuid (jtoy)

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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 04 Aug 2000 12:15:33 +0100

>>>>> "John" == John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  John> I wrote:
  >> This of course is not capitalism but plutocracy.

  John> Phillip Lord writes:
  >> And the difference being...?

  John> Capitalism describes the way that economies tend to operate in
  John> the absence of government intervention.  Plutocracy is the
  John> type of government Marxists are referring to when they say
  John> capitalism. 

        The separation of the "government" and the "economy" is
strange though. The government effects the economy enormously by the
simple act of being there and spending as much cash as it does, and
the economy massively effects the government and what it can do. 

        Phil

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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 04 Aug 2000 07:30:48 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zebee Johnstone) writes:

> In comp.os.linux.setup on 03 Aug 2000 18:08:02 -0400
> Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Note that RMS specifically rejects as "free" any license that
> >restricts the right to sell the work (therefore, the Aladdin license
> >is not regarded as "free").  One can argue about how relevant the
> >right to sell is in the absence of a right to keep secret, although
> >it's certainly not irrelevant (Red Hat, Cygnus before they were bought
> >by Red Hat, SuSE, and others all make money selling GPL software).
> 
> Isn't it more accurate to say they make money packaging GPL software
> in a usable form and writing manuals to go with it?

Maybe, but what difference does it make?  At the end of the day,
they're selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
Microsoft is selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
The difference is that Red Hat allows copying of said CD's and
Microsoft doesn't.

> And how much money are they really making from that?   

Surely less than what Microsoft is making, but again, so what?  Nobody
claimed that it's practical to make AS MUCH money selling GPL software
as selling proprietary software.

-- 
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Thornburg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 4 Aug 2000 13:26:04 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Krawitz  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[[referring to Red Hat]]
>what difference does it make?  At the end of the day,
>they're selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
>Microsoft is selling boxed sets containing a few CD's and a manual.
>The difference is that Red Hat allows copying of said CD's and
>Microsoft doesn't.

And that Red Hat allows you to use the same boxed set for more than
one machine.  (This makes a *big* difference in the cost when you have
a network of N machines.)

And that Red Hat's boxed-sets are a *lot* cheaper.

-- 
-- Jonathan Thornburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   http://www.thp.univie.ac.at/~jthorn/home.html
   Universitaet Wien (Vienna, Austria) / Institut fuer Theoretische Physik
   Q: Only 5 countries have the death penalty for children.  Which are they?
   A: Iran, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, United States

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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 04 Aug 2000 12:27:15 +0100


>>>>> "John" == John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  John> blowfish writes:
  >> Copyright does not interfers with free market.

  John> The express purpose of copyright is to suppress the free
  John> market in copies of copyrighted works.

        The free market can not exist where there is not a limited
supply. So for instance (to a broad approximation) there is no market
for air, because everyone can get it, and limiting its supply is not
practical. 

        The existence of copyright allows restriction on words and
hence creates a market place where otherwise there would not have been
one, i.e. for words.

        You are correct that it suppresses the free market in 
copies of the work though. Of course that sort of free market does
still exist. None of Shakespeare's work are copyrighted for instance. 

        What is an interesting point to speculate on though is would
Shakespeare have needed copyright to make a living. Well of course we
know that he did not, because the form of copyright protection that we
have now didn't exist then. He made his money in a different way, that
is by writing directly for a production company. The world is however
very different now, and its is interesting to ponder whether
Shakespeare would have been able to live of his writings now. 

        Phil

        

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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 04 Aug 2000 07:37:54 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Don't forget, the GNU-GPL might not hold any water in the court of law.
> I wouldn't trust it at all to protect my rights. Just like the company
> policy written on the back of a lot of sales receipts from department
> stores and so on. The city,county, state, fed laws all can over-rule it.

That's true of any statement of terms or contract.  Provisions that
run counter to law are not enforceable.

> To protect yourself, in case you might change your mind later on.
> Copyright your creation with the copyright office first. Then, you CAN
> still contribute your work to the free software under your own terms.
> Because copyright laws are federal law, and many are international law
> as well, and , they have over-ruling power over local and state law. Or
> the GNU-GPL.

Copyright registration is, AFAIK, nothing more than a way of
establishing proof for filing suit for damages.  It doesn't change the
status of the work vis a vis any copyrights that may have existed on
works that yours is derived from.

In other words: writing a new file that's part of GNU Emacs gives you
the copyright on *that file*.  However, since the *overall* work is
derived from GNU Emacs, the FSF's copyright still applies, and you
can't simply get around that by registering your copyright.

> BTW. Is the GNU-GPL just created by some geek, but not by lawyers?

No.  The GPL was written by lawyers hired by Richard Stallman
expressly for the purpose.

-- 
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 04 Aug 2000 12:42:39 +0100


>>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  blowfish> John Hasler wrote:
  >>  Phillip Lord writes: > ...rather than in capitalist state where
  >> the ruling class gain the > benefit from the fruits of their
  >> employees work.
  >> 
  >> This of course is not capitalism but plutocracy.
  >> 
  >> > Indeed Marx's definition...
  >> 
  >> He mentioned communism, not Marxism (I favor neither, but
  >> communism at least makes sense).

  blowfish> If communism make sense. Then, why China - the last BIG
  blowfish> communism country in the world is opening up to
  blowfish> capitalism!?


        Possibly you should actually read the notes in a thread, and
understand what they are trying to say before you comment on them. Do
you need the activities of global capitalism to tell you that the
Chinese government are not so great? Was Tiananmen square not enough
for you? 


  blowfish> Coke. McDonald's, Levi's, Nike's, Mercedes Benz, BMWs,
  blowfish> Audis, Rolex, Marboro cigarettes, Pizza Huts, Sony tv,
  blowfish> Avon (yes, the best selling thing for the Chinese women in
  blowfish> China!) are so popular in this communist country?

  blowfish> Those are all symbos of major capitalism. No?

        If capitalism is so wonderful why then is it investing in 
a massively repressive regime? And why does the indispensable nation
which is so totally committed to freedom give it preferred trading
status. "Constructive engagement" right? Perhaps. And how does this
apply to E. Timor, or Somalia, or Kosovo? Or is it just that
global capitalism could not really care less about freedom. 


  blowfish> Get some REAL clue of what real FREEDOM means.
         
        Perhaps you could enlighten me?

        Phil
        

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nicolette de Bruijn)
Subject: Re: enter www from behind firewall
Date: 4 Aug 2000 11:51:38 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rasputin) writes:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <Nicolette de Bruijn> wrote:
>>
>>At the company where I work my computer is behind
>>a firewall. Under Windows it is possible for me
>>to enter the World Wide Web, but when I try to
>>run Netscape under Linux and do the same I get stuck.
>>The same happens when I try to ftp. How can I solve 
>>this problem?
>
>Find out the proxy settings and set Netscape to use them.
>

I have done this and tried again, but is doesn't work. I receive a message
that access is denied. Is there something else that could help?

Thanks again,
Nicolette

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Source profile in X terminals
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:06:50 GMT

In Solaris I can do:
DTSOURCEPROFILE=true; export DTSOURCEPROFILE
to have my .profile sourced in every time I start a terminal in X.

What's the equivalent in Linux?  Running RH6.0.

Thanks!


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:20:05 GMT

Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>         What is an interesting point to speculate on though is would
> Shakespeare have needed copyright to make a living. Well of course we
> know that he did not, because the form of copyright protection that we
> have now didn't exist then. He made his money in a different way, that
> is by writing directly for a production company. The world is however
> very different now, and its is interesting to ponder whether
> Shakespeare would have been able to live of his writings now. 

consider this.  what if the copyright was extended to 500 years after
the person's death?  and what it is retroactive as well?  this is just
like the 50 to 75 year extension recently passed by the united states
congress.  if it's really property, why stop at 75?

the copyright is justified in the first place as being an incentive to
creativity.  the retroactive feature implies that perhaps all is not
over despite death.  immagine, if you will, disinterring the remains
of william shakespear, re-animating the corpse and allowing the
zombie-shakespear to write more plays!

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: diskquota and mail
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:55:36 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Please send it to me.  Do you think it is easy to work with sendmail or can
be changed to wrok with sendmail?  I originally wanted to go with qmail, but
just went with the defualt stuff. Thanks.

Sergey Gimanov wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:19:46 -0400, jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have set up several user accounts on my linux box that are only for
> >email.  Those users theck their mail via IMAP on their NT boxes.  Can I
> >have setup diskquota to notify people when they login that they are
> >reaching their limit of space, but acccording to the documentation, it
> >only notifies people when the login.  Can I make diskquota send an email
> >to the user on the local machine, so they can see the message from their
> >mailboxes?  If you can't do this could you give me some ideas with
> >examples on how to do it?  I'm sure you could probably write some bash
> >script, but how would you get the script to check if they are voilating
> >their disk quota?  Thanks
>
> I have such a script for qmail and I can send it to you. Just write me
> if you need it.
>
> CU.
> Sergey Gimanov.

--
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net



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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: diskquota and mail
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:58:16 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

please send it, I use sendmail though.  Is it easily portable to go to
sendmail?   Thanks.

Sergey Gimanov wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:19:46 -0400, jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I have set up several user accounts on my linux box that are only for
> >email.  Those users theck their mail via IMAP on their NT boxes.  Can I
> >have setup diskquota to notify people when they login that they are
> >reaching their limit of space, but acccording to the documentation, it
> >only notifies people when the login.  Can I make diskquota send an email
> >to the user on the local machine, so they can see the message from their
> >mailboxes?  If you can't do this could you give me some ideas with
> >examples on how to do it?  I'm sure you could probably write some bash
> >script, but how would you get the script to check if they are voilating
> >their disk quota?  Thanks
>
> I have such a script for qmail and I can send it to you. Just write me
> if you need it.
>
> CU.
> Sergey Gimanov.

--
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GAIM icons
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 12:41:30 GMT

I was wondering if anyone had any information about the icons that
appear to the left of a buddy's name in the GAIM application (The
instant messaging program).  I sometimes see a gray circle or a blue
ticket stub like icons and would like to know the difference.  Thanks.


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.2 Install Problem
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 08:44:07 -0500

Davide Bianchi wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 08:40:27 -0400, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am trying to install StarOffice5.2 on my Mandrake box, but I keep
> >getting this error of bash command not found. I read the install
> >instructions off of sun's web site and I put the install into my tmp
> >directory with plenty of room for the install. I am quite new to
> >linux and this has me confused. Can anyone give me some help on this
> >install.
> 
> Remember that in Unix/Linux the commands (what you type in the
> command line) are NOT researche outside the path. Prabily your
> path DOES NOT CONTAIN the ./ directory.
> 
> Try recall ./<command> when you start the configuration/installation.
> 

also remember to set the installer as executable chmod +x
whateveritis.bin

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From: Robert Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java path!
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:04:30 -0400

Two things, depending on what' s happening when you try to compile.

1)  Does the shell tell you:
                javac:  permission denied
    or something similar?  If so you are not allowed to execute the
compiler as a user.

2)  Does the compiler return a result similar to this?
                class Frame not found
    or some other message where your import statements do not find the
class you are using.  If so then either you do not have read permissions to
the directory the classes are in or (more likely) you need to set the
classpath as such:
                javac -classpath /usr/java/jdk1.3/lib/java/awt
or wherever the classes are found on your implementation.  If you are
already in the jdk directory it may be able to find the classes it needs.

Hope this helps,
RC


Michael Andersson wrote:

> Hi,
> I've just installed jdk1.3 from sun. Now I want to add the jdk path so
> that I can reach the compiler from anywhere. Since I use bash I've tried
> PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/jdk1.3/bin but with out result. I must be in the
> /usr/java/jdk1.3/bin directory to be able to compil. Why?
>
> Need your help, please!
> Thanks!
> Michael Andersson

--
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Systems Engineer
ACTiXUSA
Tel +1 770-242-3397

http://www.actix-group.com

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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Help!! apache scripts and setuid
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:07:53 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I am writing a basic bash CGI script that when executed, makes a file.
The script doesn't work if anyone uses it, but I gave it all
rights(ugo+x) as root.  Only I can run it, but I want it to be on the
webserver.
How can get around this so that I can create a file when the script is
run from apache?  I also tried having the script modify a line with sed
and that didn't work!!?!?!?   I'm sure there is a simple way around
this.  Thank you.  All I want to do is create a 'flag' that if another
program sees, it will execute some commands.
script:
date >> /some/dir
echo "<HTML><body>thanks</body></html>"

Than another program will check every minute via cron to see if the file
exists.  If so it will do some commands.  Also, is using cron every
minute goign to eat too much memory?  If so, how would I make this
script run as a daeamon or are there other methods?   The reason why I
need this script to creat a file instead of do the actual commands, is
because the commands are all root commands.  Also, how do you change
program permission with setuid?  I maned it but got almost no
information and ther is no actual setuid command on my box(redhat 6.2),
but I've heard about it so much.  thanks.

--
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net



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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help!! apache scripts and setuid
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:15:31 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I forgot to write the sed script I wrote:
#!/bin/bash
/bin/sed s/1stword/2ndword/ /some/file
echo "thank You"

jtoy wrote:

> I am writing a basic bash CGI script that when executed, makes a file.
> The script doesn't work if anyone uses it, but I gave it all
> rights(ugo+x) as root.  Only I can run it, but I want it to be on the
> webserver.
> How can get around this so that I can create a file when the script is
> run from apache?  I also tried having the script modify a line with sed
> and that didn't work!!?!?!?   I'm sure there is a simple way around
> this.  Thank you.  All I want to do is create a 'flag' that if another
> program sees, it will execute some commands.
> script:
> date >> /some/dir
> echo "<HTML><body>thanks</body></html>"
>
> Than another program will check every minute via cron to see if the file
> exists.  If so it will do some commands.  Also, is using cron every
> minute goign to eat too much memory?  If so, how would I make this
> script run as a daeamon or are there other methods?   The reason why I
> need this script to creat a file instead of do the actual commands, is
> because the commands are all root commands.  Also, how do you change
> program permission with setuid?  I maned it but got almost no
> information and ther is no actual setuid command on my box(redhat 6.2),
> but I've heard about it so much.  thanks.
>
> --
> Jason Toy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://toy.eyep.net

--
Jason Toy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Nobels)
Subject: Re: rsh and password
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 13:02:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:28:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Nobels)
wrote:

>On 3 Aug 2000 18:11:22 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
>
>>> I tried that but are having difficulties with ssh -l root ...  The
>>> goal is to sync passwd and shadow files of two ftp-servers ...  
>>> 
>>> If i open up pts0 for root-access, also telnet can have root-access...
>>
>>Look at your sshd config (should be in /etc/ssh/sshd_config):
>>
>>PermitRootLogin yes
>>
>>Use rsync over ssh, and life is peachy.
>>
>
>ok, got this working, now how do i get rid of the fact that the remote
>machine asks for a password?

Some more info about scp...

LHSLI: Connection established.
LHSLI: Remote protocol version 1.5, remote software version 1.2.27
LHSLI: Waiting for server public key.
LHSLI: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
LHSLI: Host 'lhslu' is known and matches the host key.
LHSLI: Initializing random; seed file /root/.ssh/random_seed
LHSLI: Encryption type: idea
LHSLI: Sent encrypted session key.
LHSLI: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
LHSLI: Received encrypted confirmation.
LHSLI: Trying rhosts authentication.
LHSLI: Remote: Rhosts/hosts.equiv authentication refused: client user
'root', server user 'root', client host 'lhsli.lhs.be'.
LHSLI: Trying rhosts or /etc/hosts.equiv with RSA host authentication.
LHSLI: Remote: Rhosts/hosts.equiv authentication refused: client user
'root', server user 'root', client host 'lhsli.lhs.be'.
LHSLI: Server refused our rhosts authentication or host key.
LHSLI: Doing password authentication.
root@lhslu's password: 
LHSLI: Sending command: scp -v -t /etc/
LHSLI: Entering interactive session.
Sending file modes: C0664 1862 shadow
shadow                    |          1 KB |   1.8 kB/s | ETA: 00:00:00
| 100%

[root@LHSLI /etc]# LHSLI: Transferred: stdin 1881, stdout 3, stderr 0
bytes in 0.1 seconds
LHSLI: Bytes per second: stdin 17480.1, stdout 27.9, stderr 0.0
LHSLI: Exit status 0

>- Peter -
>
>>-- 
>>Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
>>      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
>>      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
>>      Netscum, Bane of Elves.
>


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From: jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help!! apache scripts and setuid
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 09:15:54 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I forgot to write the sed script I wrote:
#!/bin/bash
/bin/sed s/1stword/2ndword/ /some/file
echo "thank You"

jtoy wrote:

> I am writing a basic bash CGI script that when executed, makes a file.
> The script doesn't work if anyone uses it, but I gave it all
> rights(ugo+x) as root.  Only I can run it, but I want it to be on the
> webserver.
> How can get around this so that I can create a file when the script is
> run from apache?  I also tried having the script modify a line with sed
> and that didn't work!!?!?!?   I'm sure there is a simple way around
> this.  Thank you.  All I want to do is create a 'flag' that if another
> program sees, it will execute some commands.
> script:
> date >> /some/dir
> echo "<HTML><body>thanks</body></html>"
>
> Than another program will check every minute via cron to see if the file
> exists.  If so it will do some commands.  Also, is using cron every
> minute goign to eat too much memory?  If so, how would I make this
> script run as a daeamon or are there other methods?   The reason why I
> need this script to creat a file instead of do the actual commands, is
> because the commands are all root commands.  Also, how do you change
> program permission with setuid?  I maned it but got almost no
> information and ther is no actual setuid command on my box(redhat 6.2),
> but I've heard about it so much.  thanks.
>
> --
> Jason Toy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://toy.eyep.net

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://toy.eyep.net



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