Linux-Misc Digest #339, Volume #24 Tue, 2 May 00 00:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't read or play CD-RW (Andy)
Re: losing an hour at reboot (Dances With Crows)
Re: Serial port/modem port (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon (Yanglong Zhu)
Re: Can't read or play CD-RW (brian moore)
Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon (Yanglong Zhu)
inetd, named, httpd when to start and stop. (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Re: Interested in purchasing a Linux OS (brian moore)
linux hd problems ("Mark Willits")
Re: Strange Netscape Behavior with RH 6.2 ("Timothy K. Nelson")
Re: "tail" stops tailing? (David Gillam)
Re: Question about Gnome editors ("Bracy")
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From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't read or play CD-RW
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 02:47:13 GMT
Hey Kevin,
Is it just RWs, or is it all CDs? Try a regular data/music cd, then a
plain CDR...it seems weird that the RW alone wouldn't work. Does the RW
work in any other drive? Perhaps something happened during the burn and
it got messed up.
Andy
Kevin E Cosgrove wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I can't play audio, nor read data on my newly installed CD-RW
> drive. Read below, if you think you could help or if you're
> curious.
>
> I recently added a SCSI CD-RW drive to my system, while
> keeping my previous CD-ROM drive installed. Audio and data
> work fine now on the old CD-ROM drive, except now the read-only
> CD-ROM is /dev/scd1, so I had to repoint my /dev/cdrom link
>
> /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd1
>
> The new drive is /dev/scd0 for reading and /dev/sg0 for
> writing. I've only been able to succeed in playing audio
> one time on the new /dev/scd0. When /dev/cdrom points at scd0,
> audio will no longer function; reboots (to power cycle the
> CD-RW drive) don't help. I've never been able to read data
> on the new /dev/scd0.
>
> I have verified that the kernel module sr_mod loads when I
> try to access /dev/scd0. This is the same module that loads
> when I access /dev/sdc1, which works. I've also verified
> that kernel module sg loads when I try to write to /dev/sg0.
>
> I think I managed to write a CD just fine with X-CD-Roast
> v. 0.96e, but since I wrote audio on a CD-RW disk, and since
> I can't play audio on /dev/scd0 I haven't been able confirm
> the written data. I started with CD-RW to prevent making a
> bunch of CD-R coasters right of the bat.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas that would help me to get the new
> drive working for audio playback and data reading?
>
> Thanks...
>
> P.S.: If it matters, SCSI info on the two drives is below.
>
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
> Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 9200 Rev: 1.0e
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
> Vendor: NEC Model: CD-ROM DRIVE:222 Rev: 3.1k
> Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>
> --
> kevinc AT doink DOT COM
> Change the AT and DOT in my reply-to address to send e-mail.
> Unless otherwise noted, the statements herein reflect my personal
> opinions and not those of any organization with which I may be affiliated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: losing an hour at reboot
Date: 01 May 2000 23:02:59 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 02 May 2000 02:44:11 GMT, Andy
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Can anyone explain this?
>
>May 1 15:36:52 bear kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
>May 1 15:36:54 bear syslog: klogd shutdown succeeded
>May 1 15:36:54 bear exiting on signal 15
>May 1 14:37:18 bear syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
>May 1 14:37:19 bear syslog: syslogd startup succeeded
>May 1 14:37:19 bear syslog: klogd startup succeeded
>
>If i reboot my computer, it loses an hour. Any ideas why? It went to
>EDT correctly when that date arrived, but if i reboot it, the +1 hour is
>lost (altho it still knows its EDT). Any ideas?
Is the hardware clock set correctly? Since you're having this problem, I
assume you haven't set the hardware clock to GMT (the reccommended
solution if you don't use the Other OS). You can set the hardware clock
to local time using the BIOS setup program, or you can use the
"hwclock" command. Set the time appropriately using "date", then do
"hwclock --systohc" to get everything in sync. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Serial port/modem port
Date: 01 May 2000 23:09:02 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 01 May 2000 14:49:03 -0400, Art S. Kagel
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I recently installed RH6.2 over RH5.2 and cannot access the internal modem
>on the box. It used to be /dev/cua2 (COM3 in DOS/WinDoze) now the OS wants
>to link /dev/modem to one of the new S devices but none of them work nor do
>the old cua devices. I will call RH when and if I get some time but thought
>I am as likely to get help from someone here. Please save me from having to
>boot to Win98 to get my email at home. Any takers?
COM3 is ttyS2.
Read the man page for "setserial" and see if you can get useful info from
that. I assume the modem was working correctly in RH 5.2; how did you set
it up then? However you did it before, I'll bet a similar procedure would
work this time...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid,
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| as I have to run nothing but a
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| burp in the butt. --MegaHAL
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From: Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:12:53 -0700
Steven Fosdick wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I urge you to try install RHLinux on a Presario 5834 (or some thing similar) to
> > verify what I'm saying.
> >
> > Its not so much a conspiracy against Linux. But this is for their profit, I guess.
>
> I personally doubt if Compaq or any other PC vendor make much money from
> technical support even if they do charge premium rate for it. After all they have
> to employ people to provide it.
>
> Neither do I think that any computer manufacturer with his head screwed on
> would deliberately set up a sittuation that would result in more calls to a
> usully overworked (and therefore slow) helpdesk and risk the bad feeling
> amongst the customers that it would cause.
>
> Many computer manufacturers probably consider the Linux marked to small
> to be worth supporting (or else don't know of it) but any deliberate moves
> to stop other OSes running would likely open up the manufactuer to
> accusations of anti-competitive conduct and some lawyer would probably
> find a way they could be sued.
>
> Now if you can provide more information about what happens when you try to
> boot from a Linux floppy like others have asked we may be able to help
> diagnose what is going on (even if it is sabotage). "It doesn't work" really
> doesn't help anyone solve anything - what is the last thing that appears on
> the screen? Are there any error or other suspicious messages?
Thank you for the nice discussion.
I actually got them to take it back tomorrow. Therefore it would be the end of story. I
am actually willing to find out what was going on with this particular computer. But at
any rate it is a really strange behavior. I called 5 or 6 support reps. They could
figure out what problem that is. A jumper problem? I do think that is possible. But
that
is the only hard disk. If it is not set as the master drive do you really think the
machine can still boot normally from hard disk? Hey, I know the BIOS setting crap.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Can't read or play CD-RW
Date: 2 May 2000 03:31:47 GMT
On Mon, 01 May 2000 23:54:27 GMT,
Kevin E Cosgrove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I can't play audio, nor read data on my newly installed CD-RW
> drive. Read below, if you think you could help or if you're
> curious.
>
> I recently added a SCSI CD-RW drive to my system, while
> keeping my previous CD-ROM drive installed. Audio and data
> work fine now on the old CD-ROM drive, except now the read-only
> CD-ROM is /dev/scd1, so I had to repoint my /dev/cdrom link
>
> /dev/cdrom -> /dev/scd1
That's normal. You could renumber their scsi id's to change that
behavior if it were important.
> The new drive is /dev/scd0 for reading and /dev/sg0 for
> writing. I've only been able to succeed in playing audio
> one time on the new /dev/scd0. When /dev/cdrom points at scd0,
> audio will no longer function; reboots (to power cycle the
> CD-RW drive) don't help. I've never been able to read data
> on the new /dev/scd0.
I'm curious as to how you managed to succeed once. Playing audio cd's
has very little to do with the operating system and almost everything to
do with the little cable (usually 3 wires) that connects the CD to the
sound card.
It's not like the player is grabbing each block from the cd over the
SCSI bus, mapping it to PC audio encoding from CDDA and then sending it
to your sound card... your cd drive can do that just fine... but you
have to provide the wire between it and the sound card as well as a
spare port on the sound card (most only come with one such connector) or
make do with the headphone jack and volume control on the drive
faceplate.
I guess you could hack up such a cable in a "T" sort of configuration to
allow both drives to feed the same input on your sound card, but it
seems like a lot more trouble than it's worth.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux woes (Compaq for one) on the horizon
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:31:32 -0700
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Yanglong Zhu wrote:
> Steven Fosdick wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I urge you to try install RHLinux on a Presario 5834 (or some thing similar) to
> > > verify what I'm saying.
> > >
> > > Its not so much a conspiracy against Linux. But this is for their profit, I
>guess.
> >
> > I personally doubt if Compaq or any other PC vendor make much money from
> > technical support even if they do charge premium rate for it. After all they have
> > to employ people to provide it.
> >
> > Neither do I think that any computer manufacturer with his head screwed on
> > would deliberately set up a sittuation that would result in more calls to a
> > usully overworked (and therefore slow) helpdesk and risk the bad feeling
> > amongst the customers that it would cause.
> >
> > Many computer manufacturers probably consider the Linux marked to small
> > to be worth supporting (or else don't know of it) but any deliberate moves
> > to stop other OSes running would likely open up the manufactuer to
> > accusations of anti-competitive conduct and some lawyer would probably
> > find a way they could be sued.
> >
> > Now if you can provide more information about what happens when you try to
> > boot from a Linux floppy like others have asked we may be able to help
> > diagnose what is going on (even if it is sabotage). "It doesn't work" really
> > doesn't help anyone solve anything - what is the last thing that appears on
> > the screen? Are there any error or other suspicious messages?
>
> Thank you for the nice discussion.
>
> I actually got them to take it back tomorrow. Therefore it would be the end of
>story. I
> am actually willing to find out what was going on with this particular computer. But
>at
> any rate it is a really strange behavior. I called 5 or 6 support reps. They could
> figure out what problem that is.
I mean they couldn't figure out ...
> A jumper problem? I do think that is possible.
> But that
> is the only hard disk. If it is not set as the master drive do you really think the
> machine can still boot normally from hard disk? Hey, I know the BIOS setting crap.
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<tt>Yanglong Zhu wrote:</tt>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><tt>Steven Fosdick wrote:</tt>
<p><tt>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,</tt>
<br><tt>> Yanglong Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:</tt>
<br><tt>></tt>
<br><tt>> > I urge you to try install RHLinux on a Presario 5834 (or some
thing similar) to</tt>
<br><tt>> > verify what I'm saying.</tt>
<br><tt>> ></tt>
<br><tt>> > Its not so much a conspiracy against Linux. But this is for
their profit, I guess.</tt>
<br><tt>></tt>
<br><tt>> I personally doubt if Compaq or any other PC vendor make much
money from</tt>
<br><tt>> technical support even if they do charge premium rate for it.
After all they have</tt>
<br><tt>> to employ people to provide it.</tt>
<br><tt>></tt>
<br><tt>> Neither do I think that any computer manufacturer with his head
screwed on</tt>
<br><tt>> would deliberately set up a sittuation that would result in more
calls to a</tt>
<br><tt>> usully overworked (and therefore slow) helpdesk and risk the
bad feeling</tt>
<br><tt>> amongst the customers that it would cause.</tt>
<br><tt>></tt>
<br><tt>> Many computer manufacturers probably consider the Linux marked
to small</tt>
<br><tt>> to be worth supporting (or else don't know of it) but any deliberate
moves</tt>
<br><tt>> to stop other OSes running would likely open up the manufactuer
to</tt>
<br><tt>> accusations of anti-competitive conduct and some lawyer would
probably</tt>
<br><tt>> find a way they could be sued.</tt>
<br><tt>></tt>
<br><tt>> Now if you can provide more information about what happens when
you try to</tt>
<br><tt>> boot from a Linux floppy like others have asked we may be able
to help</tt>
<br><tt>> diagnose what is going on (even if it is sabotage). "It
doesn't work" really</tt>
<br><tt>> doesn't help anyone solve anything - what is the last thing that
appears on</tt>
<br><tt>> the screen? Are there any error or other suspicious messages?</tt>
<p><tt>Thank you for the nice discussion.</tt>
<p><tt>I actually got them to take it back tomorrow. Therefore it would
be the end of story. I</tt>
<br><tt>am actually willing to find out what was going on with this particular
computer. But at</tt>
<br><tt>any rate it is a really strange behavior. I called 5 or 6 support
reps. They could</tt>
<br><tt>figure out what problem that is.</tt></blockquote>
I mean they couldn't figure out ...
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><tt>A jumper problem? I do think that is
possible.</tt></blockquote>
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><tt>But that</tt>
<br><tt>is the only hard disk. If it is not set as the master drive do
you really think the</tt>
<br><tt>machine can still boot normally from hard disk? Hey, I know the
BIOS setting crap.</tt></blockquote>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L. Olczyk)
Subject: inetd, named, httpd when to start and stop.
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 03:37:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Question is simple enough. THese weren't setup to start at boot by my
instal, so is there a place where the "standard" way of setting up the
startup scripts should be written?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Interested in purchasing a Linux OS
Date: 2 May 2000 03:48:11 GMT
On Tue, 02 May 2000 00:21:41 GMT,
Romanator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am very interested in learning and installing a Linux OS on my
> computer. However, after checking out various web sites, I seem more
> confused than before. I am not sure which Linux OS purchase and install.
> As a newbie, can any one recommend a Linux brand name and book for a new
> user?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
My usual rule is simple. Use what your friends use. This way allows
you to mooch CD's from them as well as get help when you have problems.
Don't have friends that use Linux? Go get one. See
http://www.linux.com/lug/ and find a local user group. If you bribe a
geek with pizza and beer, they'll even be glad to come to your house and
install it for you.
--
Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor.
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: "Mark Willits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux hd problems
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:40:59 -0500
I tried to install mandrake linux 7.0 on my computer and share it with Win
98 on the same drive. Somehow the partision did not work out right and I had
to format the C:. I ended up putting Win 98 back on for now. I also have a
D: that I have a lot of files like mp3 and what not on there. It also
screwed up the partision on the D:. I am wondering if I install linux and
the D: will I lose all the files on the drive that are already there since
the partision is already messed up. I don't what kind of partision is on
the D: right now but I do know that Windows will not recognize it. Thanks
Mark
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From: "Timothy K. Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange Netscape Behavior with RH 6.2
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:55:40 -0500
Carter Brey wrote:
>
> Charles Tryon wrote:
>
> > Here's one that's got me stumped!
> >
> > I just installed RH 6.2 Linux on a Dell Latitude laptop. After fiddling
> > for a long time getting the display to come up at 800x600, everything seems
> > to be working great...
> >
> > ...except for one really strange thing....
> >
> > When I run Netscape (4.7 or 4.72), the address book is completely
> > torqued!
> >
> > I can add names, but they don't show up when I try to send mail. If I
> > try to click on names in the address book, about half will create the
> > modify dialogue, but half don't respond at all. Then, when I hit the OK
> > button, it adds another duplicate entry to the list, but it DOESN'T DISMISS
> > THE DIALOGUE. For every OK I hit, I get another duplicate name in the
> > list, but the window doesn''t go away until I hit CANCEL.
Hi,
I am having these problems too: RH 6.2 and NS 4.72. Tried copying a
pab.na2 from work that is fine with RH5.1 and NS 4.7: it lumps copies of
all addresses in my `lists' with the rest of the adresses in the book
(resulting in a lot of multiple addresses). The lists (which I really
need to send out a meeting notice for tomorrow) are completely hosed. I
also tried "exporting" from work and importing the resulting file at
home: no go either. Oh yes...no completion here either.
Any ideas out there?
Best,
Tim Nelson
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
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From: David Gillam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: "tail" stops tailing?
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:56 GMT
Matt Siemens wrote:
>
> Bjoern Frantzen wrote:
>
> > Matt Siemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Here's what I'm trying to do:
> > >
> > >I'm using tail to output the system log (/var/log/messages) to
> > >/dev/tty12 via the /etc/rc.d/rc.local startup script. I'm using the
> >
> > I don't know the answer to your question, but I think a better approach to
> > the same goal is to let syslogd write directly to tty12.
> >
> > I have the following line in my /etc/syslog.conf;
> >
> > # Log everything to a free tty.
> > *.* /dev/tty12
> >
> > Be careful to use TAB's and not spaces in syslog.conf.
> >
> > --
> > Bj�rn Frantzen
>
> Hi Bj�rn,
>
> That would work, but then I wouldn't get a cool, colour-coded log that
> colortail produces. Thanks anyways!
>
> --Matt
Not sure about "colortail", but "tail" has a --retry switch that's used
in combination with the -f switch. It causes tail to retry attempts to
open the file if it is inaccessible when tail starts or if it becomes
inaccessible later. You might try this with "colortail". BTW, where
would I go to get colortail? Yes, everyone, I *know* I can use a
file-search query engine somewhere, but this might be easier! :-)
Thanks,
Dave
--
The alarm clock that is louder than God's own belongs to the roommate
with
the earliest class.
_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ David Gillam
_/ _/ _/
_/ _/ _/ _/_/
_/ _/ _/ _/ USA
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From: "Bracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question about Gnome editors
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 04:03:57 GMT
Thanks a bunch! You hit the nail right on the head. I increased the
pixmap and image buffers, and problem is solved. I was looking in the
wrong place: I knew I needed to increase a buffer size, but I thought
it was a buffer for the editor. Never dawned on me to check the pixmap
buffers.
Thanks again!
Bracy
In article <IkqP4.32969$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <y3oP4.3709$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bracy"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Why are Gnome editors so slow? I've tried gEdit and GXEdit, and in
>> both of them, I can type out a full paragraph before either of them
>> displays a full sentence. Is there some way to edit the buffer sizes
>> in these? Maybe a config file to edit? Can't seem to find one, and
>> there are no options in the menus.
>>
>> Is there another Gnome editor that's nicer? I'm looking for something
>> that's simple and easy-to-use, so please don't recommend vi or emacs,
>> I'm a newbie and am still learning how to use those. :-)
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Bracy
>
> The problem is with the pixmap themes ( the ones that look fancy ). One
> way to improve the situation at the exense of memory usage is to change
> the imlib settings. Go to programs/settings/imlib settings ( or type
> imlib_config) and change the size of the the pixmap and image caches
> and see if you get an increase in performance. This really helped on my
> computer. Otherwise you could try less fancy themes ( try to use the
> editors with the default theme ), or try non gtk text editors like any
> KDE ones .
>
>
>
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