Linux-Misc Digest #798, Volume #19 Sat, 10 Apr 99 06:13:08 EDT
Contents:
lread security breach (Eric Bryant)
Re: Crystal Sound pops ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: nested ` (Siemel Naran)
Where to get Linux OS
Re: Help ! How do I mount audio cdroms ? (brian moore)
Re: nested ` (Alan Curry)
Kernel Compile Error (Patrick Lanphier)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" (Roberto Pavan)
seti@home graphical client (Uwe Schuerkamp)
Re: slashdot overview grabber for Linux (kinda off-topic) (olivier eymere)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (dylan pringle)
Re: Running as root? (oak)
Re: start from floppy, boot from disk? (olivier eymere)
Pascal/Delphi in Linux (Matthew Slowe)
Re: Running as root? (David Steuber)
Re: Running as root? (David Steuber)
Re: Running as root? (David Steuber)
rcp large file crashes network! (David Steuber)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" ("G. Sumner Hayes")
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From: Eric Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: lread security breach
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 02:22:56 -0700
I just compiled the lread program in DOS so I can access Linux
partitions from DOS, and I was able to
copy my /root/.dialdir file to DOS and see my internet password in
that file. Is there a way to secure Linux files so DOS cant read certain
ones? Just thought I'd pass that info along...
Thanks!
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Crystal Sound pops
Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:44:29 GMT
Another person rallying.. I to have the same issues and no matter what
configuration I try I continue to recieve the annoying bastard pops. If
anyone is smart in this area please donate your knowledge!
-RC
In article <7dsibo$5tv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am running Mandrake 5.2 Linux with kernel 2.2.4 on a Dell Dimension XPS
> R400 with onboard Crystal Sound. The sound works OK except for one thing -
> whenever I play a sound, it starts off with a static pop which is annoying.
> Any one ever come across this and found a fix?
>
> - George B. Smith
>
> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----------
> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
>
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Siemel Naran)
Subject: Re: nested `
Date: 10 Apr 1999 06:19:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:45:30 -0300, Julio De Gregorio
>You can do it in two steps...
>
>PWD1=`pwd`
>PWD=`basename $PWD1`
I'll try this.
But as the above is clearly equivalent to
PWD=`basename `pwd``
this should be possible too. I think I've seen something like this once.
When you want a nested `, you have to use some special syntax, otherwise
the parser interprets `` as a single token.
--
==================================
Siemel B. Naran ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
==================================
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where to get Linux OS
Date: 10 Apr 1999 06:32:08 GMT
I was looking for a free copy of the LINUX OS for my personal use. The
problem I am having is, I don't know enough about LINUX as of yet to know
what I need to start using or playing with the LINUX OS. Is there anyone
that can help? I don't know what files need to be downloaded. Or where to
find documentation. Let me know if it is possible to still get a free copy
of the LINUX OS.
Thanks!!
================== Posted via SearchLinux ==================
http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Help ! How do I mount audio cdroms ?
Date: 10 Apr 1999 06:44:09 GMT
On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 11:02:06 -0500,
Randy Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob Martin wrote:
> >
> > You can not mount audio cdroms as ther is no file system. just insert
> > the cd and run the cd player.
>
> Actually you CAN mount audio CDs. They're recognized as ISO9660 filesystems
> and each audio file will be identified by ls as something like "file1.aiff".
On what system is this?
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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Subject: Re: nested `
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Curry)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:02:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Siemel Naran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:45:30 -0300, Julio De Gregorio
>
>>You can do it in two steps...
>>
>>PWD1=`pwd`
>>PWD=`basename $PWD1`
>
>I'll try this.
>
>But as the above is clearly equivalent to
> PWD=`basename `pwd``
Actually they are clearly _not_ equivalent, since ` doesn't match like you
think it does. The first command you are running is "basename ", and the
second one is empty. If you want to nest, use $(). Better yet, just always
use $() so no one else will be led to the same mistaken impression you had.
--
Alan Curry |Declaration of | _../\. ./\.._ ____. ____.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]|bigotries (should| [ | | ] / _> / _>
==============+save some time): | \__/ \__/ \___: \___:
Linux,vim,trn,GPL,zsh,qmail,^H | "Screw you guys, I'm going home" -- Cartman
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From: Patrick Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel Compile Error
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 06:20:52 +0000
I am receiving the following error when compiling the linux 2.2.5 kernel. Please help
with gcc
version 2.7.2.3.
HELP.
/usr/src/linux.old/include/net/sock.h: In function `sk_filter_charge':
/usr/src/linux.old/include/net/sock.h:817: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.old/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer
-pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
-DCPU=586 -c
-o consolemap.o consolemap.c
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o conmakehash conmakehash.c
make[3]: *** [slhc.o] Error 1
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.old/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer
-pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
-DCPU=586 -c
-o keyboard.o keyboard.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.old/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer
-pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
-DCPU=586 -c
-o pc_keyb.o pc_keyb.c
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.old/drivers/net'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.old/drivers/net'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_net] Error 2
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.old/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer
-pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
-DCPU=586 -c
-o defkeymap.o defkeymap.c
./conmakehash cp437.uni > consolemap_deftbl.c
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.old/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer
-pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m486 -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2
-DCPU=586 -c
-o consolemap_deftbl.o consolemap_deftbl.c
rm -f char.a
ar rcs char.a pty.o misc.o console.o selection.o serial.o tty_io.o n_tty.o
tty_ioctl.o mem.o
random.o vt.o vc_screen.o consolemap.o consolemap_deftbl.o keyboard.o pc_keyb.o
defkeymap.o
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.old/drivers/char'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.old/drivers/char'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.old/drivers'
make: *** [_dir_drivers] Error 2
Patrick Lanphier
Advanced Information Technologies
The Pennsylvania State University
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From: Roberto Pavan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:00:16 GMT
"G. Sumner Hayes" wrote:
> grail supports python applets. At least one of the tcl ones supported
> tcl applets, and there's the safeTCL plugin for Netscape.
>
> arena, amaya, grail, surfit, tkwww, opera, netscape, chimera, xmosaic,
> netscape, lynx, emacs-w3, kfm, gnome-helper, gzilla, IE, cello,
> spry mosaic, redbaron, visage-web
>
> Any others worth mentioning?
kfm?
--
Your faithful narrator,
Roberto Pavan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In some countries what I do is considered normal.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uwe Schuerkamp)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: seti@home graphical client
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:46:48 +0159
Hello fellow Linuxers,
I guess quite a few of you have been following the development of
seti@home project. When the client finally became available to the
public I was a bit disappointed to see that there is no graphical
status display as the windows version has or will have.
Being a member of the Linux community I said to myself: "Hey, let's
propose such a beast that will put the Windows client to shame", so
here I stand on my soap box, looking for people who would be interested
in developing such an interface. I think perl/gtk would be nice as the
only way to get at performance data is the log file output, and of
course perl comes to mind first with such a format.
In case you've never heard of seti@home (the search for
extraterrestrial life on your computer), take a peek at
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
Regards & looking forward to hear from you,
Uwe ( hoover at telemedia . de )
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:40:43 -0700
From: olivier eymere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slashdot overview grabber for Linux (kinda off-topic)
Part 1 of the EULA license says:
>If the Software is accompanied by its own License Agreement, that
>License Agreement and any disclaimers and warranties included with the
>Software will supersede this EULA. The Licensee will be bound by the
>terms and conditions set out in that License Agreement...
So, yes, there are two licensing agreements but the GPL supersedes EULA. If
there were a situation where the two licensing agreements are in conflict you
can consider the GPL the authoritative license. This is perfectly legal but
I agree that the two licenses do seem to be at odds with each other on some
rather important points.
Olivier
Gergo Barany wrote:
> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.1 i586)
> X-Accept-Language: en
>
> > LICENSE and RESTRICTIONS
> > sd-grab has been placed under the GPL, please see the file COPYING for
> > LICENSE restrictions.
> >
> > This software is provided as is, and there is no warrenty. If you like the
> > software tell others, if you don't tell us! Please refer to the EULA.txt
> > file contained in the distribution. You can also find our EULA at
> > http://www.affinity-systems.ab.ca/software/products/EULA.txt
>
> Does this mean that the software is licensed under two different
> licenses? Is that legal (especially with the restrictions in the
> EULA)?
>
> Gergo
>
> --
> Ducharme's Axiom:
> If you view your problem closely enough you will recognize
> yourself as part of the problem.
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From: dylan pringle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:57:55 +1000
Jon-o Addleman wrote:
> Once upon a Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:43:13 +0200, "Jan Johansson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Correct. Not a bug, that was the way MS wanted it.. and it makes sense to me
> >atleast.
>
> Really? Why would they want it to be impossible to save your password
> unless a particular protocol was in place? It makes llittle sense to
> me... the dial up networking has nothing to do with the network
> protocol that it uses. Please explain this to me!
> --
>
> Jon-o Addleman
It is clearly part of a massive conspiricy - ms,cia,asio ect. They want your
password man. - no, seriously- they do.
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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:05:22 GMT
Thanks for the tips! There's one thing that I somtimes have trouble
coming to grips with, what exactly is the danger of running, say,
netscape or some other java application as root? What sort of things
can happen when doing this?
In an x-windows environment could I run as a regular user:
netscape, xterm, and mutt
and as root:
midnighcommander, xterm, and gvim
all the same time? and how would I go about starting these?
Thanks,
-Tony
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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:02:59 -0700
From: olivier eymere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: start from floppy, boot from disk?
I am not sure if I understand what you mean exactly by a minimal boot
floppy or how you want to 'pick' which kernel to start but you could
certainly configure LILO to boot different kernels. If you are
upgrading your kernel you should do this so that you can rollback to
your original kernel if things go wrong.
You could configure LILO with the list of different kernels you want to
boot and install LILO on a floppy disk pretty easily. The LILO HOW-TO
explains how to do all of this
Olivier
Richard Finney wrote:
> Is it possible to create a minimal "boot" floopy that can
> access a hard disk and let you pick which which kernel
> to start?
>
> If anybody can point me in the right direction; I'd much
> appreciate it.
>
> -rfinney
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From: Matthew Slowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pascal/Delphi in Linux
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:43:48 +0100
Reply-To: Matthew Slowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Is there currently a Pascal or Delphi compiler for Linux? If so, where
can it be obtained?
Thanx in advance
--
Matthew Slowe
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: 09 Apr 1999 22:12:13 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Goodwyn) writes:
-> Pardon a newbie question, but how do you do this? Or how do you find
-> out? I have been running as root because, trivial or not, I'm not sure
-> how to do anything else.
Your question is ambiguous, but I'll try to answer what I think you
are asking.
You need to set up a user account for your self and log on as that
user. If you need root permissions to make an adjustment, use the su
command. Craig gave a precis of it.
I've used YAST with SuSE 6.0 to create my user account. YAST just
frontends for some unix utility for creating users. Do a man on
useradd(8).
I know people are running as root the same way I know you posted with
vnWin. I see the news headers. I have seen quite a few root@hostname
from headers. I am concerned that accidents as root will give linux a
bad name. I also figure that people doing user type stuff as root are
newbies who are more likely to make the types of gaffs that could
destroy a unix system when running with root privilages.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
What I do, first thing [in the morning], is I hop into the shower
stall. Then I hop right back out, because when I hopped in I landed
barefoot right on top of See Threepio, a little plastic robot character
from "Star Wars" whom my son, Robert, likes to pull the legs off of
while he showers. Then I hop right back into the stall because our
dog, Earnest, who has been alone in the basement all night building up
powerful dog emotions, has come bounding and quivering into the
bathroom and wants to greet me with 60 or 70 thousand playful nips, any
one of which -- bear in mind that I am naked and, without my contact
lenses, essentially blind -- could result in the kind of injury where
you have to learn a whole new part if you want to sing the "Messiah",
if you get my drift. Then I hop right back out, because Robert, with
that uncanny sixth sense some children have -- you cannot teach it;
they either have it or they don't -- has chosen exactly that moment to
flush one of the toilets. Perhaps several of them.
-- Dave Barry, "Saving Face"
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: 09 Apr 1999 22:35:57 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (TurkBear) writes:
-> I would like to avoid using my root login, but that;s the only account that can
-> receive mail ! - I have posted requests for help on this strange problem, but no
-> ideas have come in ( Its a RedHat 5.2 install - Other user I created can FTP and
-> Telnet to the server, 'Finger' returns the correct User Data, but any mail sent
-> to that user is returned as 'Unknown user' )
->
-> So, to send myself stuff for other places, I need to mail it to root - not what
-> I would prefer to do....
How do you get your mail? I have several POP3 accounts (including the
trashcan account) with my ISP because I don't have 24x7 connectivity
or an MX record. I use a program called fetchmail to collect my mail
from the POP3 account and deposit it in my user mail spool
/var/spool/mail/david. The .fetchmailrc file in my home directory has
a line that reads:
user foo there with password bar there is david here options no
rewrite
The mail ends up in my spool as expected and I am free to use any
e-mail program that can read from the spool file. It works.
If this helps you, great! If not, please post more information.
Perhaps someone can help you. Also, try DejaNews to look for your
exact situation. Linux distributions come in a lot of flavors.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
"Acceptance without proof is the fundamental characteristic of Western
religion, Rejection without proof is the fundamental characteristic of
Western science."
-- Gary Zukav, "The Dancing Wu Li Masters"
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: 09 Apr 1999 22:00:43 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron White) writes:
-> Some of us have no choice. I've been trying to run ping and netscape
-> (as two examples -- don't know if ther are others) as user and all I
-> can do is run them as root. I've changed permissions and several
-> other things people have suggested and it looks like I'll run as root
-> if I want to use those programs.
Something is definatly wrong with your setup. I can run both in user
accounts. The only thing you need root for with ping is ping -f which
does a flood ping.
What distro are you using? Did you install rpms for that distribution
or is netscape installed some other way? Is it a particularly old
distribution? I am running SuSE 6.0 and it has had no problems like
you describe. Unfortunatly, while YAST is very good at getting a good
setup, it hides the user from the details of how a Linux system is
organized. I can't say what directories you should have or what the
permissions should be.
Most things on my system are root root. In my home directory,
everything is david user. There are some items owned by news and
other daemons.
I think if you get your system set up properly, you will be a lot
happier. Your system will also be a lot safer. I've done things that
made me glad I wasn't running as root.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
Adore, v.:
To venerate expectantly.
-- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: rcp large file crashes network!
Date: 09 Apr 1999 22:55:23 -0500
I have a problem. If I try to rcp a 2GB file to my other machine, the
network connection will die. I don't know what the problem is. To
cure it, I have to kill the rcp and restart networking.
System info:
SuSE 6.0 running kernel 2.0.36
PCMCIA CS 3.0.8
3Com 3CCFE575BT
This is the first time I've seen a networking problem. I would really
like to fix it.
TIA
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
law free.
-- Henry David Thoreau
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From: "G. Sumner Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:01:21 -0400
Roberto Pavan wrote:
>
> "G. Sumner Hayes" wrote:
> > arena, amaya, grail, surfit, tkwww, opera, netscape, chimera,
> > xmosaic, netscape, lynx, emacs-w3, kfm, gnome-helper, gzilla, IE,
^^^
> > cello, spry mosaic, redbaron, visage-web
> >
> > Any others worth mentioning?
>
> kfm?
^^^
;^)
In addition to the two that Christopher Browne added (Closure and
Skate), I forgot Hotjava. Doh.
--Sumner
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