Linux-Misc Digest #798, Volume #24 Tue, 13 Jun 00 03:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP (John Hasler)
Re: X server problem (Dances With Crows)
Re: X server problem (Dowe Keller)
Re: point to point (James Dahlgren)
Re: apache won't transmit (James Dahlgren)
Mounting ("Telus News")
Re: KPPP problem (kamborg)
Re: X server problem ("Anson Lau")
Re: KPPP problem (kamborg)
Re: Pop Not Popping (Kenneth Porter)
Re: info: ("David ..")
Re: can't start netscape ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ****Flashing Screen*****Flashing Screen****** ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Pop Not Popping ("Peter T. Breuer")
ppp auto dialing to internet in regular intervals
Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time (Harlan Grove)
Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256????? ("Lonni J. Friedman")
Re: [Help:] Advice on SMP machines required ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
The future of sound on Linux: ALSA or OSS? (David Steuber)
Re: FTP Script? (David Steuber)
Re: New Roaring Penguin PPPoE Client (David Steuber)
Re: Kernel loadable modules... (David Steuber)
Re: MS word and linux (David Steuber)
Re: MS word and linux (David Steuber)
Re: vote on MS split-up (David Steuber)
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux modules to connect to ISP
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:43:14 GMT
Jafgon writes:
> You just pop in the CD and have your credit card number ready and follow
> the on-screen instructions and within 20 minutes you've setup an
> account. I doubt that such a user-friendly application exist under
> Linux...
Only because no one has written it: it isn't the sort of thing one does for
free.
> ...but I wanted to put it out there none-the-less just to see.
How much can you budget for having it written?
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: X server problem
Date: 13 Jun 2000 00:01:03 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:35:09 +1000, Anson Lau
<<8i4345$622$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I'm running Redhat 6.0 on my P166. Last night I deleted the directory
>/tmp/.X11-unix/ and since then my X window will not start. I get the error:
>
>"_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111.."
That isn't the error message--the *REAL* error message is before that line
in the error log, most likely. So what's the real error message?
Are you sure that's all you did? On the Redhat portion of my drive (not
using it atm, using SuSE) there's a /tmp/.X11-unix/ directory, but it's
empty. The SuSE /tmp has that directory, and there's a socket in
there because I'm using X right now. Try doing this as root:
mkdir /tmp/.X11-unix
chmod 1777 /tmp/.X11-unix (sticky bit probably a good idea.)
Then try starting X.
The general rule for *anything* you don't understand is "don't mess with
it unless you've made a backup of it and can restore that backup." Then
feel free to mess with it--how else are you going to learn? BTW, don't
ever delete libc or ld.so--it's somewhat difficult (but possible!) to
recover from that...
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: X server problem
Date: 12 Jun 2000 21:21:53 -0700
Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The general rule for *anything* you don't understand is "don't mess with
>it unless you've made a backup of it and can restore that backup." Then
>feel free to mess with it--how else are you going to learn? BTW, don't
>ever delete libc or ld.so--it's somewhat difficult (but possible!) to
>recover from that...
I assume from this statement that I am not the only one who zorched their
libraries during my newbihood :-/
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
I wanted to emulate some of my hero's, but I didn't know thier
op-codes.
--dowe
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From: James Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: point to point
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 23:48:15 -0400
If you are using dialup connection,
Read the PPP-HOWTO that comes with most distributions.
Also available from the LDP:
http://the-city.seas.upenn.edu/unplug/LDP/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO.html
you can probably skip over the beginning,
setting up one box to call another is the same as setting up to call an ISP.
But, you need to set up the server to call in to,
and that's covered near the end of the HOWTO.
jim
.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I had 2 windoze machine connected point to point,I no longer use windoze
> and use linux and wonder if anyone can point me in the right dirrection or
> what to read to accomplish the same thing on linux a network with 2
> machines.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
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From: James Dahlgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apache won't transmit
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:15:13 -0400
I have no idea if your hardware has anything to do with it, but in general.
It sounds like you have telnet type access to the server.
you can try running socklist to see if apache is listening on the right port
Did you try to hit the server from lynx running on the server?
lynx localhost should work.
Does apache respond when hit locally at any address?
( ifconfig will list the active interfaces )
I don't have 6.2,
but the Red Hat dists I've seen put apache log files
on /var/log/httpd. There's an error log and an access log.
Is Apache writing anything to the access log?
What are the forwarding rules? Something in ipchains can be blocking it.
Hope this at least gives you a few other things to check out.
jim
.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to run Apache 1.3 with RedHat Linux 6.2 with a Abit BP6
> motherboard with dual Celeron 500 processors. Apache starts, there are no
> messages in the error-log file other than starting & stopping. When I run
> tcpdump I can see that the packets are being received but nothing is
> transmitted. The server is on a DSL line and I am accessing the server
> from a dial-up line through another isp. The packets are received but no
> index.html is transmitted. When I access the web with Lynx on the server
> there is no problem...the pages are received so the connection is woring.
> I have tried changing the LISTEN & BIND parameters in the config file with
> different combinations of the URL & port but nothing seems to work. Any
> suggestion?
>
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: "Telus News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:36:16 -0700
I am having trouble accessing a mounted drive on my linux server with rw
access. Heres the setup. I have a NTWS machine which I am trying to connect
to a Samba share on my Linux Server. On the Linux Server (RH 6.2) is a FAT16
partition that is mounted to /mnt/Backup. However, when I view the
permissions on /mnt/Backups write access is not enable for anything but
user. Owner is root and group is root. Using KDE, and looking at properties
for the /mnt/Backup, I can check the box for "Write Entries" for Group, but
it is not getting registered since it is not checked if I check properties
again. Consequently, although I can browse the SMB share for that mount, I
cant write to it? The settings for that mount in mtab is
/dev/hda9 /mnt/Backup vfat rw 0 0
and in fstab it is
/dev/hda9 /mnt/Backup vfat defaults 0 0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:17:54 GMT
On 12 Jun 2000 11:03:45 +0100, Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg) writes:
>
>> This could be very useful. But don't forget to send us the
>> cryptographic key when you get back to your home planet.
>
>Umm no it's just uuencoded :-)
>
>Try saving the relevant bit of the file and do
>
>uudecode <filename >output.txt
(correction)
uudecode -o outputfile codedfile
Thanks, Richard, but you spoiled my joke. Or his on me.
8=)) anyway 'kamborg'
>
>--
>Richard Watson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Pentagon Web Design Ltd ICQ: 65274884
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From: "Anson Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X server problem
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:37:37 +1000
Sorry where do I find the error log? I'm a real newbie...
I tried to creat the /tmp/.X11-unix directory and chmod 1777 it... doesn't
work.
Thanks a lot!!
Anson
"Dances With Crows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:35:09 +1000, Anson Lau
> <<8i4345$622$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >I'm running Redhat 6.0 on my P166. Last night I deleted the directory
> >/tmp/.X11-unix/ and since then my X window will not start. I get the
error:
> >
> >"_X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno=111.."
>
> That isn't the error message--the *REAL* error message is before that line
> in the error log, most likely. So what's the real error message?
>
> Are you sure that's all you did? On the Redhat portion of my drive (not
> using it atm, using SuSE) there's a /tmp/.X11-unix/ directory, but it's
> empty. The SuSE /tmp has that directory, and there's a socket in
> there because I'm using X right now. Try doing this as root:
>
> mkdir /tmp/.X11-unix
> chmod 1777 /tmp/.X11-unix (sticky bit probably a good idea.)
>
> Then try starting X.
>
> The general rule for *anything* you don't understand is "don't mess with
> it unless you've made a backup of it and can restore that backup." Then
> feel free to mess with it--how else are you going to learn? BTW, don't
> ever delete libc or ld.so--it's somewhat difficult (but possible!) to
> recover from that...
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with
more
> There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being
stupid?
> But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of
cool. --MegaHAL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:47:29 GMT
Thanks to Tomo Popovic for the following message which I'm
forwarding for technical reasons, and esp. to Richard
Watson for pointing out how to do so. I haven't had time
to read it carefully, but it looks like TP may have worked
through some of the intricacies of kppp. I reformatted
slightly and corrected minor typos. --k.
==========
Hi,
I managed to setup the kppp in Red Hat 6.2 and it works fine when
I am logged as root. However, when I login as a user, upon starting
the kppp it prompts me to enter root password, I do that, but
nothing happens after that. I know that it is related to some file
access restrictions but I don't have a clue what to do.
Please help!
==========
The following are the hints for setting Kppp in RH 6.2
- Use the following commands when logged as root
(ttySx corresponds to your modem port):
* create symbolic link to your modem:
ln -sf /dev/ttySx /dev/modem
* change the access to the device:
chmod 666 /dev/ttySx
* change the access to the symbolic name for modem
chmod 666 /dev/modem
* create a symbolic link for Kppp:
ln -sf /usr/sbin/kppp /usr/bin/kppp
- Setup Kppp when you are logged as root
* Be sure to have your ISP access number and DNS servers' addresses
(DNS addrs needs to be provided in account setup)
* Select the proper /dev/ttySx (or /dev/modem)
* Increase the modem speed to maximum supported by your modem
(56K modems usually goes with 115000)
* Test if you Netscape works when you are root
- Check the /etc/resolv.conf file. Put DNS servers there:
* DNS serverrs' IPs should be provided by your ISP
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
- Check the /etc/host.conf file
* The file should look like this:
order hosts,bind
multi on
- Change /etc/pam.d/kppp file to look like this
(this should stop the password prompt when logged as user):
#%PAM-1.0
auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_rootok.so
auth sufficient /lib/security/pam_permit.so
session optional /lib/security/pam_xauth.so
account required /lib/security/pam_permit.so
- When logged as a user (not root) create account with Kppp
and use script for authorization:
Expect "ogin:"
Send "your_user_name"
Expect "ssword:"
Send "your_password"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth Porter)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Pop Not Popping
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 05:55:18 GMT
[posted and mailed]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Black) wrote in
<h0c15.1109$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>We are running linux with sendmail. Periodically the pop3 fails. I can
>telnet hostname 110 and fail to get a connection. Then if I reboot the
>machine we get connected. Then after a while it stops connecting. I
>installed qpopper3 which replaced v 2.5 but to no avail. Is their a better
>way to do this - The boss says get an NT server but I dont wanna. Any and
>all help appreciated
This is a POP3 server issue, and has nothing to do with sendmail. I
recommend joining the qpopper mailing list (http://www.qpopper.org).
Also check your log files (/var/log/*) to see if your POP3 server is
reporting why it's shutting down.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: info:
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:48:37 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> How do I install software In Mandrake Linux
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
If it's an rpm:
rpm -Uvh filename-x.x-1.i386.rpm
If it's a tar.gz file:
tar xzvf filename.tar.gz
read the README files.
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: can't start netscape
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:50:54 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I use caldera 2.3 and presently have a problem with netscape.
> I tried to install real player 7, and it seemed to go ok, but now I
> can't launch netscape at all.
> i get an error saying there is a ~/.netscape/lock file. there is, and i delete
> it; but the error comes back everytime i try to start netscape.
> i can start netscape on other accounts on my machine ok, so i presume my
> /usr/bin/netscape is not affected.
> i am sure this is related to the real player installation, how can i uninstall
> it? or, what else can i do?
Try moving the .netscape directory. It's possible there's something in
it that's tripping you up:
$ mv .netscape .netscape.bak
...you can move it back, or copy individual files (like bookmarks,
cookies, and preferences) to restore your former settings.
Another possibility is that you have a hung Netscape process -- try
issuing:
$ ps ux | grep -i netscape
If you find a process running, kill it.
> thanks
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
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Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ****Flashing Screen*****Flashing Screen******
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:54:26 -0700
N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I go to log into Corel Linux Delux for the first time and suddenly the
> screen begins to flash when it asks me to log in, how can i stop this?
> -----Thanks.
Is this a graphical or a console login? Can you provide more
information? What are you typing, if anything? Does the login work?
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
Evangelist, Opensales, Inc. http://www.opensales.org
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks!
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org
GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Pop Not Popping
Date: 13 Jun 2000 06:19:44 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Kenneth Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Black) wrote in
:>We are running linux with sendmail. Periodically the pop3 fails. I can
:>telnet hostname 110 and fail to get a connection. Then if I reboot the
:>machine we get connected. Then after a while it stops connecting. I
:>installed qpopper3 which replaced v 2.5 but to no avail. Is their a better
: This is a POP3 server issue, and has nothing to do with sendmail. I
: recommend joining the qpopper mailing list (http://www.qpopper.org).
: Also check your log files (/var/log/*) to see if your POP3 server is
: reporting why it's shutting down.
All good advice. I also personally recommend cucipop as a pop3 server.
Holds up fine under heavy load.
Peter
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ppp auto dialing to internet in regular intervals
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:30:03 GMT
please help
iwant to configure my linux machine to connect to internet in regular
intervals so that it can dial my isp in every 15 minutes and download mails
and disconnects itself.
I am using REDHAT 6.1
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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: comp.os.linux.misc - to short time
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:29:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hej Everybody!
>I wonder why messages on this new group ar e kept so short time.
>It is not so good. Is ther eto little space on the server? Imposible
It's the NNTP server on which you're reading these postings (probably
your ISP's) that has such a short holding period. Learn to use Deja.com
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 64 megs of RAM on a 256?????
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 00:14:54 -0400
Robert Heller wrote:
>
> Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:30:06 GMT, wrote :
>
> T> I installed Mandrake 7 a while ago and everything is running smoothly,
> T> internet and all. The only problem I have is, I have a 256 meg RAM single
> T> module, and linux only sees 64 megs of it. This is the most baffling
> T> problem ive ever run into with linux. can anyone help me out with this? Im
> T> not a newbie to linux so feel free to be techinal. just keep it
> T> understandable haha
>
> You have a 'brain dead' BIOS (some are). You need to add a line like:
>
> append = "mem=256meg"
If he adds that line, it certainly isn't going to help, considering that
the syntax is wrong. What he should add is:
append="mem=256M"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: [Help:] Advice on SMP machines required
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:41:47 GMT
Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez wrote:
> There's also the possibility of using AMD Athlon processors, but
> I
> think I've read somewhere that the SMP kernel part doesn't work very
> well with AMD processors. Can you confirm or reject this point?
>
The issue with the Athalon isn't that the kernel can't support them, it's
that SMP Athalon doesn't exist. You can't get a dual-Athalon yet. They're
working on it though. You can be sure as soon as there's a motherboard for
dual SMP (and I can afford it) I'll have one in my server room ;)
-Kara
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: The future of sound on Linux: ALSA or OSS?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:00:00 GMT
I have a small dilemma. I plan to upgrade the kernel on my laptop
computer which is running SuSE 6.2. The SuSE distro includes OSS in
the pay section ( not the same as the kernel OSS ). The OSS is the
only way I have gotten sound to work on my laptop with the 2.2.10
kernel that SuSE 6.2 ships with. OSS will ONLY work with the SuSE
2.2.10 kernel (SuSE patches the code somehow). OTOH, there is ALSA.
It is also included in the SuSE 6.2 package. But it is free. So I
went to the http://www.alsa-project.org/ site and got the latest
release, which is several revs later than the one on the SuSE 6.2
CDs.
I haven't built it yet. What I want to know is how well ALSA works
with sound cards, particularly chip sets used in laptop computers ( I
have a Gateway Solo 5150 ). I also want to know how compatible ALSA
is with the OSS architecture. Most, if not all, audio software I have
uses the OSS architecture. That includes not just /dev/dsp and
family, but the ioctl calls defined in soundcard.h. Does ALSA support
the OSS architecture well enough for these programs to keep working?
Has anyone got the appropriate settings to get a kernel build of
2.2.16 for sound to work on a Solo 5150? 2.4.0 will be out soon. I
plan to wait a few months before stepping up to the 2.4.x series. I
have a USB device I would love to have working ;-)
--
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NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Subject: Re: FTP Script?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:59:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Plock) writes:
' Hi,
'
' You can also use ftp in a script.
'
' write a file "host" which contains :
'
'
' open ftp.somewhere.org
' user anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED]
' cd /pub/incoming
' bin
' put FILENAME
'
' quit
'
'
'
' Then start it with :
'
' nohup ftp -in<host &
I nominate this as the best solution to the problem possed. Anyone
second it? This will certainly be useful to me.
Thanks, Kai.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: New Roaring Penguin PPPoE Client
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:59:59 GMT
"John Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' These are the only improvements they mention over version 1.7, but they may
' have done a lot more to the script/programs from the version you are using.
Yeah, I saw that on the web site. I'm wondering about improvements
over 1.0. For example, will it make my PPPoE connection more robust?
The MTU improvement is not a real issue for me.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Kernel loadable modules...
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:00:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) writes:
' For this reason, they can't expect to just throw out one binary module and
' hope to keep Linux users satisfied. The thing for them to do would be to
' keep the source for their module around and grab the latest kernel source
' every couple of months, then try to build their module against that source
' and make it available for download/whatever as "foomodule-2.2.19.o". This
' would allow users to stay with reasonably current kernels, and allow
' companies to protect their oh-so-precious intellectual property.
What you say makes sense. And those bastards do consider their
'inellectual' property to be precious. Has anyone been successful
getting the information necessary to write a driver for the Logitech
QuickCam VC ( USB camera ) yet? Pulling teeth from an angry tiger is
much, much easier! :-(.
How close is epsilon to zero?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Subject: Re: MS word and linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:00:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn Iwan) writes:
' There is a word8 viewer (Office 97)...but the name escapes me.
' It is in the Suse distribution, though. Don't know how well it works.
' But then, taking word documents back and forth between Apples and IBMs
' doesn't work entirely correctly.
A funny story. I just used XEmacs to view a Word8 doc that someone
kindly mailed me. I learned what kind of printer was the default
printer from the document! Also, Word8 just loves the ^@ character.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Subject: Re: MS word and linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:00:01 GMT
"Wouter Verhelst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' That is true: +-65Mb.
' But IMHO it's worth it.
Isn't that about half the size of MS Office?
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David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:00:01 GMT
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' I give them a lot of credit. I USE Linux on my home machine, BUT, unless
' Microsft is hobbled, no other OS is going to get a chance to really
' compete. That has been proven. The ONLY reason inroads have been made is
' that no companies have been able to go public with Microsoft's
' "business" techniques.
It might also help if hardware OEMs were required to release
specifications for creating hardware drivers for !Windows operating
systems. They only aid in the Microsoft monopoly by refusing to do
so.
The DMCA is also an aid to Microsoft. Since when does Congress have
the power to make reverse engineering illegal?
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David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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