Linux-Misc Digest #805, Volume #19 Sun, 11 Apr 99 02:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
Re: X CDROM (David Steuber)
Re: hackers ("Mark F. Burgo ( Systems Administrator )")
Re: FrontPage extensions installation - what's it doing? (Pat Traynor)
2 Novice Questions ("Julia Cristina Varela de Montoya")
Re: 2 Novice Questions (Jeff Monks)
Re: Presentation tool for linux? (Jeff Monks)
Re: How to Upgrade to GCC 2.8.1? (Paul Kimoto)
Downloading files in Win 98 for use in Linux (J. Peterson)
Looking for ps2tiff (Hans Kr�ger)
.tar files (Batags)
Re: Win 98 Killed lilo - can't start Linux (Gary Momarison)
Re: harddisk keep busy (Seth Van Oort)
Re: Running as root? (Robert Heller)
Re: .tar files (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Sinuhe)
Re: Linux crashed--hard! (J. J. Ramsey)
Re: I could use a simple /etc/ntp.conf file (Paul Kimoto)
Is somebody trying to crack my system? (Arcady Genkin)
Re: Need IDE CD-R configuration help! ("Michael A. Irons")
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Stuart Fox")
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:07:42 +0200
From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
> Useability for whom? The unix philosophy is that a little
> learning up front will pay huge dividends in the medium
> and long term.
The Unix philosophy???
Making software unintuitive doesn't make it better and doesn't endow
the user with additional skills. It's just poorly designed from the
user's point of view.
Why do Unix people get so needlessly defensive all the time? Much
Unix software suffers from poor usability - not all of it, just a
lot of it. Now you're telling me that's a good thing? You don't hear
me say how stable Win 95 or Win 98 is compared with Linux? What's
the point in denying the truth?
Harry
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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X CDROM
Date: 10 Apr 1999 20:06:37 -0500
I won't buy it. I am using a Neomagic X server on my laptop and
haven't bothered to set up XFree on my PPro. In any case, I have the
version that ships with my distribution. I don't need another CD.
--
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
If you don't, I won't see it.
In America, any boy may become president and I suppose that's just one
of the risks he takes.
-- Adlai Stevenson
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From: "Mark F. Burgo ( Systems Administrator )" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: kingston.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: hackers
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:14:07 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nothing, it is standard unix file maintenance. These processes run
everynight and do rebuild various tables throught the night. It is
nothing to be alarmed by and quite normal on any unix environment.
Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm not much of a hacker but I do use Linux. I'm running
> RedHat5.2 and I'm on a LAN connected though cablemodem by
> an old 486 with Slackware96. I'm up late working and I
> notice things are getting slow. I run top and I see that
> user:nobody is running find with PRI 20!!! All of a
> sudden there's another process running "make whatis". I
> killed that and some other processes including an instance
> of gawk, I then literrally pulled the plug on my
> cablemodem. I looked in /var/log but I can't find
> anything. What, if anything,can I do to trace this
> hacker?
>
> --
> Boyd Thomson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://welcome.to/boydt
--
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Burgo Systems / Consulting
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.surfshop.net/~mfburgo
On RedHat Linux 5.2
Burgo Systems / Consulting is happy to preload Linux on your new
BS/C System, Factory Direct
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pat Traynor)
Subject: Re: FrontPage extensions installation - what's it doing?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:12:14 GMT
Todd Knarr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Pat Traynor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > They sure don't make the installation easy. It's almost as though
> > Microsoft doesn't WANT me to run under Linux!
>
> And this is a suprise?
I thought that the joke was too obvious to require a smiley. That
statement was purely tongue-in-cheek.
> I do know that my ISP flatly refuses to install the FrontPage extensions
> due to the security risks they present. My understanding is that the way
> Microsoft implemented them makes it far too easy for someone else to go
> and upload their pages to your site and otherwise mess with your stuff.
I've heard that things have improved with later versions of the
extensions.
> Frankly I find FTP and telnet ( or better yet scp and ssh ) to be a better
> choice.
You're preaching to the choir here. I'm a Homesite man myself, and I
use FTP for transferring. But like I said, I've got a developer who's
been using FrontPage for his clients. Personally, I think his pages
suck, but his clients' hosting money is just as green as anyone's.
I can't simply "not" install them because some of his clients access
data input by forms with FrontPage Explorer. So I'd like to get the
latest extensions installed in the hopes that this would improve security.
"Secure" is a relative term. There are a lot of steps that I could take
to make my server more secure, but at what cost? If I want to REALLY
make it secure, I can unplug that risky ethernet cable. That would make
it REALLY secure! :-)
There - I included the smiley this time.
--pat--
--
Pat Traynor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Julia Cristina Varela de Montoya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2 Novice Questions
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:43:01 -0700
I just installed RedHat Linux 5.2. I have 2 simple questions.
(1) when I login as another user, sometimes (but not always) it stops
echoing what I am typing. Obviously I don't want the password echoed, but it
stops echoing everything at this point. In addition to not echoing, the
LINUX prompt does not line-feed after hitting enter, it just scrolls across
the screen. Any idea how to correct this?
(2) In our UNIX installation at work, when I hit "<ESC> k" it displays the
command history on the command line, like doskey. I know it's a simple
parameter, perhaps having to do with vi, but I can't find how to do it in
LINUX, although it is storing the history.
Thanks for any replies.
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From: Jeff Monks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Novice Questions
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:42:21 GMT
> (2) In our UNIX installation at work, when I hit "<ESC> k" it displays the
> command history on the command line, like doskey. I know it's a simple
> parameter, perhaps having to do with vi, but I can't find how to do it in
> LINUX, although it is storing the history.
The command "set -o vi" should enable this functionality. Alternately, you can
perform the same history functions with the up and down arrow keys. You can
put the "set -o vi" command in your .bashrc file to make it permanent.
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From: Jeff Monks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Presentation tool for linux?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:45:46 GMT
> Is there any Linux applications for presentation purpose just like MS
> Power Point? Note I don't have KDE or other fancy window managers. I'm
> just running on XFree86 3.3.3.1 with FVWM 95-2. Thanks for your help in
> advance.
Check out StarOffice (http://www.stardivision.com). It's an integrated
office suite that includes a presentation maker similar to Powerpoint.
It's a resource hog, and the interface isn't my favorite, but it's quite
full-featured and very inexpensive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How to Upgrade to GCC 2.8.1?
Date: 11 Apr 1999 00:48:59 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and e-mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am currently running Red Hat 5.0 with a 2.0.32 kernel and GCC
> 2.7.2.3 and am looking to upgrade to GCC 2.8.1
> Can anyone tell me exactly which RPMs are required? Any tips on
> installation? Is it difficult? I've also heard about egcs. What is
> it all about? Is that something I should be looking at as a C/C++
> compiler instead?
egcs (http://egcs.cygnus.com/) is a gcc variant with an open development
model. On Linux, at least, it is generally regarded as preferable to
gcc 2.8.x. It is supposed to contain all of the gcc 2.8 features, along
with many improvements and fixes.
Red Hat does provide RPMs, so you should get and install them. (Someone
else will have to tell you which are appropriate.) Be aware that you
should not compile 2.0.x kernels with egcs (or with gcc 2.8.x, for that
matter); there is no such restriction with 2.2.x kernels.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Peterson)
Subject: Downloading files in Win 98 for use in Linux
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:57:04 GMT
Is there a way that I can setup my computer where I can download files
using Windows, so I can use the file/program in Linux? I assume that
I have to setup a directory/drive that can be read by both.
I am having problems getting Linux setup for use with my ISP. Until
then, I would like to use windows to download files.
Thanks
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From: Hans Kr�ger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for ps2tiff
Date: 11 Apr 1999 04:38:57 GMT
I need a program that can convert a postcript-file into a tiff-
format.
Thanks in advance
Hans Kruger
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From: Batags <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: .tar files
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:06:51 -0400
What is the basic commands to "unzip" .tar.gz files? Also is there such
thing of a .exe in linux, How do I exec a program ? How do I identify
these type files? .exe = ? , in linux. Thanks
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 98 Killed lilo - can't start Linux
Date: 10 Apr 1999 22:13:52 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I can't fix lilo.
>
> I have a Scsi disk and when I boot from the Rescue floppies, 0 SCSI devices
> are detected. I can't use insmod because aic7xxx and insmod are not on the
> rescue set. I can boot in expert mode (using the CDROM) and find aic7xxx and
> insmod, but I can't copy them to a floppy because device /dev/fd0 does not
> exist. When I try to run Lilo from expert mode, I get the error message:
> Can't find file or directory /dev/sda.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
Make a proper boot floppy as soon as you resurrect it. Better yet, make
two: one with your current kernel on it (using, eg, cat or dd) and one
with LILO on it for faster, more flexible booting.
Try booting off floppy or CD and at prompt enter: xxx root=yyy
where "xxx" is "linux" probabably and "yyy" is "/dev/sda1" or
wherever you installed your "/" directory.
If all else fails and you have some spare disk space, install
Linux without X11 and other unneeded stuff on a small partition.
Then use it to rerun lilo after editing /etc/lilo.conf so LILO
will boot either your old or mini rescue Linux.
If you can't do that, you might want to do an "upgrade" install.
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: como.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: harddisk keep busy
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:27:32 +0000
Just to be nice, you just turned off your means of writing to the hard
disk. Try writing to a new file, then restart your computer and see if
it's still there. Take a look in
Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt (in the 2.2 kernels)
and you'll probably find what you want.
Seth
"Stuart R. Fuller" wrote:
>
> digger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : i just found which program keeps writing to the disk by killing the
> : process one by one. it is /sbin/update, which is supposed to flush the
> : kernel buffer back to disk. the default value for is 5 sec. i just kill
> : this process and have not seen any problem yet.
>
> ut, you will.
>
> Stu
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Running as root?
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:22:20 GMT
oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:05:22 GMT, wrote :
o> Thanks for the tips! There's one thing that I somtimes have trouble
o> coming to grips with, what exactly is the danger of running, say,
o> netscape or some other java application as root? What sort of things
o> can happen when doing this?
Depends on how the Java app was written. If it is a properly written
applet that did not overwrite the security features, it should be safe,
but...
o>
o> In an x-windows environment could I run as a regular user:
o> netscape, xterm, and mutt
o> and as root:
o> midnighcommander, xterm, and gvim
o> all the same time? and how would I go about starting these?
You would login as a normal user and run your normal non-privileged
programs.
I would generally *avoid* a root xterm, but such is possible like this:
In a non-priv. xterm window:
% su -c xterm
Password:
^Z
% bg
[1]
OR (better)
% sudo xterm
Password:
^Z
% bg
[1]
(With sudo, there is little need for a root shell.)
Other possibilities:
% sudo midnighcommander
Password:
^Z
% bg
[1]
and so on.
o>
o> Thanks,
o>
o> -Tony
o>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: .tar files
Date: 11 Apr 1999 01:39:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Batags wrote:
> What is the basic commands to "unzip" .tar.gz files?
Untar an uncompressed tar file with
$ tar xf filename
("x" for extract, "f" for filename).
Untar a gzip-compressed file with
$ tar zxf filename
("z" for "zipped"; this works only with GNU tar but that's what
we all have on Linux).
Get the contents by using "t" (table of contents) instead of "x".
Get more extensive output by adding "v" (verbose) to "c" or "x".
Please consult the tar info or man pages for more information.
> Also is there such
> thing of a .exe in linux,
If by ".exe" you mean "self-extracting compressed stuff", no.
(Actually, yes, there are "shar archives", but the inexperienced
are rarely exposed to them nowadays.) Of course there are many
kinds of executable programs on Linux.
> How do I exec a program ?
By typing its pathname at the shell prompt, e.g.,
$ /path/to/executable
or just
$ executable
if its directory is in the $PATH environment variable.
> How do I identify
> these type files? .exe = ?
Generally there is no particular meaning to file extensions on a
unix system. Files are identified by, well, guesswork. Fortunately
there is a program called "file" that guesses for you:
$ file /usr/bin/emacs /usr/bin/autoconf /usr/bin/automake ~
/usr/bin/emacs: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1,
dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
/usr/bin/autoconf: Bourne shell script text
/usr/bin/automake: perl commands text
The owner of the file may first have to add the executable permission
bit explicitly:
$ chmod +x filename # "x" for "executable"
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:20:34 +0200
From: Sinuhe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
In article <7dkb1h$l9v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> >around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> >horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> >worked with Linux. My prequisites: ...
>
> My biggest success spending that much was getting my wife a diamond
> anniversary ring that she didn't expect. :-)
>
> -- Rod
Where is the room for the HD and CPU, etc? Where is that technol.? ;o)
Nathan Letwory
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/3089, http://come.to/Letwory
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*He decided to live forever, or die in the attempt*
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From: J. J. Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux crashed--hard!
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:44:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> A couple of additional thoughts: 1. Are you overclocking? 2. Is it
> unusually warm where your computer is? Either of these can cause the
> problems you had.
I don't overclock, but my fan has been given to funny noises. While my
machine was in the process of losing it, I did put my hand near the back of
the fan and it did feel kind of warm--not hot, just warm. Hmmm . . .
---I am a fool for Christ. Mostly I am a fool.---
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: I could use a simple /etc/ntp.conf file
Date: 11 Apr 1999 01:54:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Steuber wrote:
> I have two computers on a lan that access the Internet via a dial on
> demand ISDN router. I would like to set up xntp so that both machines
> synchronize to the same set of servers in the PA, DE, NJ tri state
> area. I've been looking at the xntp documentation and find it rather
> confusing. All I want is a simple recipe for getting my computers to
> synchronize once per day with the time servers.
Here is a possible simple /etc/ntp.conf file.
# begin /etc/ntp.conf
server 127.127.1.1
fudge 127.127.1.1 stratum 8
server louie.udel.edu
server dominator.eecs.harvard.edu
server ntp.ctr.columbia.edu
driftfile /etc/ntp.drift
# end /etc/ntp.conf
Now, xntpd is designed to work continuously. I believe that if you
want to prevent dialling on demand, you can filter out the NTP packets
(cf. /etc/services).
Perhaps you want a simpler NTP system instead. You could just use
"ntpdate -b some_ntp_server" once a day *after establishing your
internet connection*. There are also other, cleverer systems
available.
> s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail
> If you don't, I won't see it.
But if you want e-mail replies, you shouldn't break Usenet rules
making it hard for your readers to reply.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Is somebody trying to crack my system?
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 06:07:44 GMT
Hi!
Here's another one of those questions... Sorry for the trivality, but
I am inexperienced with this kind of thing...
I have found about 20 of those entries in my xconsole for today:
Apr 11 01:44:23 main tcplogd: auth connection attempt from marvin.cdf.toronto.edu
[128.100.31.3]
Apr 11 01:45:30 main tcplogd: auth connection attempt from marvin.cdf.toronto.edu
[128.100.31.3]
cdf.toronto.edu is the computer-science facility at my university. Is
some 'friendly' fellow student trying to log into my machine? :)
Then, earlier in the same session (just before one of the messages
listed above):
Apr 11 00:14:08 main tcplogd: auth connection attempt from bureau7.utcc.utoronto.ca
[128.100.132.17]
Am I being too paranoid?
Thanks,
--
Arcady Genkin
"I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood..." - GsYDE
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Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 20:00:05 +0200
From: "Michael A. Irons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need IDE CD-R configuration help!
Todd Dunkirk wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> You need to recompile the kernel to get the scsi generic
> support; it does work, but you must be careful to choose
> the following settings:
>
> 1. No IDE/ATAPI cdrom support
> 2. SCSI cdrom support compiled into the kernel (no module)
> 3. SCSI generic support compile into the kernel (no module)
You forgot one thing.
4. IDE-SCSI emulator support under the Block Dev section
PS - Do you think you cross-posted to enough groups??
>
> This will change the device special files you will use to
> access the ide cdrom devices; no longer will they be /dev/hd(x),
> but /dev/scd(x). Change any /dev/cdrom symlink to reflect this.
>
> When you run cdrecord, pass the -scanbus flag to determine
> which scsibus/device your burner/reader are on; this will likely
> be 0,0 and 0,1 although which is which I cannot say from the info
> in your post. I used to use Xcdroast; I think it will tell you this
> in a straightforward way.
>
> I have done this successfully with three different makes of burner:
> HP, Mitsumi, and Memorex. Sorry, I can't remember the model numbers,
> but the HP and Mitsumi are newer devices, less than six months old.
> I don't know about the Panasonic.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Todd
>
> On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 03:51:22 GMT, Holden MacRoyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Help! I'm having trouble getting xcdroast to recognize my CD-R as a CD
> >Writer.
> >
> >Both drives appear in the xcdroast device window but setup will not
> >allow me to specify wither as read or write devices.
> >
> >I have an IDE Panasonic 7582-CDR, and a normal IDE CD-ROM for reading. I
> >am running Mandrake Linux 5.3 (RedHat 5.2 with all the latest drivers
> >updated and tested).
> >
> >From reading the HOWTO for CD-Writing, there is some mention that Linux
> >has difficulty with IDE CD-R devices and that I have to somehow trick
> >the kernel into recognizing these devices as Generic SCSI devices. The
> >cdrecord and xcdroast documentation allude to this but give very little
> >information in HOWTO do it.
> >
> >If anyone has successfully done this, please point me in the right
> >direction.
> >
> >Thanks - S
> >
--
"By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other dwarves began
to suspect 'Hungry' ..."
-- Gary Larson, "The Far Side"
aTdHvAaNnKcSe >THANKS 'in' advance<
Michael A. Irons
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 22:30:28 +0200
From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
I'm going to take that as a compliment :)
Stu
John Thompson wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Stuart Fox wrote:
>
>> My argument still stands - a PROPERLY configured NT box will not blue
screen
>
>Perhaps so, but it appears that the people capable of
>configuring NT "properly" so that it doesn't BSOD are
>scarcer than hen's teeth...
>
>--
>
>-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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