Linux-Misc Digest #939, Volume #19 Sat, 24 Apr 99 13:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Neil de
Carteret)
Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I proceed
("David Z. Maze")
Linux & Progress v6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
R U The Finest & Brightest Linux Guru?? read on.... (Wanderer)
Kernel 2.2.6 (MrLoke)
Re: New to Linux, Flavor questions (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Kernel 2.2.6 (jik-)
Re: Netscape Plug-In To Display MS-Word (DOC) Files? (Andreas Hinz)
Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I proceed
(Frank Paprosky)
Re: which window manager? (Reyn EagleStorm)
Re: Installing CDE with RedHat 5.2 (Erik Onsager)
Fractal landscape generator for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: which window manager? (Dustin Puryear)
newbie: how to decompress patch-2.2.6.gz ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Installing CDE with RedHat 5.2 (Gerald Willmann)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code ("Fabian")
installing linux (SUSE) on VFS (umsdos) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Neil de Carteret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:35:17 +0100
"Stephan I. Boettcher" wrote:
> Hmm. To me is sounds consistent. Cloning takes place before the
> testosterone comes into the picture. Remove the Y, double the X: no
> testosterone. Inject testosterone, and your back in square one, well,
> almost.
You'd have someone that looked male, but with certain female-typical
characteristics - e.g. the various sex-linked genetic disorders like colour
blindness would be as rare in XX males as in females. And said XX male could
only ever have female children. Hmm... what does this tell us about Henry
VIII ?
Neil de C.
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I
proceed
Date: 24 Apr 1999 09:02:34 -0400
Citation corrected; please post with a valid mail address.
(Staring at $PATH...)
Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mike> In fact, /usr/local/bin and /usr/X11R6/bin both appear
Mike> twice. Once before and once after $HOME/bin in my path so
Mike> something is adding those two after my .bash_profile is being
Mike> read. The question, if you've made it this far you've probably
Mike> guessed by now is, WHERE!!! Could someone tell me the sequence
Mike> of how the PATH is set starting from boot-up?
Sure...look at bash(1), under "INVOCATION". You might check that you
don't have a $HOME/.profile doing weird things, and that none of your
other login scripts source /etc/profile again.
(Though having things in $PATH multiple times really doesn't hurt
anything. It's unpretty, sure, but not really significant. The only
really important thing is the order. If you have /bin:/usr/local/bin,
the 'ls' in /bin will be used, but if you have /usr/local/bin:/bin and
a /usr/local/bin/ls, that one will be used first.)
Mike> I don't know how to use grep yet to search all the files on my
Mike> hard drive to find instances of /usr/local/bin so if someone
Mike> could help me out I would greatly appeciate it.
"Correct" (see also grep(1)): grep 'regexp' files
"Simple": grep 'string' files
Something like "grep '/usr/local/bin' .*" would look through all the
hidden files in your home directory for /usr/local/bin.
More advanced:
"find $HOME -type f -print |xargs grep '/usr/local/bin'" will start at
your home directory, recursively find every file, and feed the
resulting (potentially quite long) list of files as arguments to
grep. This has the effect of searching every file in your home
directory for the string '/usr/local/bin'.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux & Progress v6.2
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 11:10:56 GMT
Hi
I am running Red Hat 5.2 and want to run Progress 6.2. The Progress version
runs under SCO Unix ver 3.2 version 4.2 N.B Not SCO Open Server.
My question is as follows:
What Libraries are required for this.
Thanks
Aubrey
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From: Wanderer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: R U The Finest & Brightest Linux Guru?? read on....
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:45:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have good news to share with you all. After many weeks of trying, I finally
found the style and magic words to make my modem dial up and stay connected to
the internet! I finally figured out my PPP! I typed the whole thing on a
single line, pressed enter, and it worked!
I have bad news to share with you all. Those wonderful words that I found to
make my PPP work fine for me, and to dial up and stay connected to the
internet, well, my computer doesn't like me! When I saved those good words
into a file named "ppp-on", and gave it a "chmod a+x /usr/sbin/ppp-on", and I
made sure that I'm the owner of the file, and I tried to execute the file, it
wouldn't work! I can give it a "dir" and it sees the file. I can load the
file up in XEDIT and modify it, and save it again. But, when I try to execute
it, I get a message: 'not a file or directory".
I made sure that the file was in the $PATH statement. I renamed the file and
saved it again, going through the above motions, and tried to execute it.
NOTHING! Same error message. I then took the file with the new name, and
saved it in another directory. Again I went through the chmods, $PATH,
chown's, and dir to verify it. Again, it would not execute! And yes, I am
doing this as root!
Now I am at the point that I need the finest and the brightest to get me out
of this predictament. I need to be able to proceed and finish setting up
this machine, after all these weeks of plugging at it. -- Please CC a copy of
your post to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thank you!
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From: MrLoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel 2.2.6
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:03:43 +0200
Hello,
I have upgraded my 2.0.36-7 kernel that came with Red Hat 5.2 to the
bleeding edge 2.2.6 kernel.
A problem arose, whenever I exit X windows I get an error message of
some kind saying that gpm uses the obsolete cua0 update software to use
ttyS0.
This change ocurred with the upgrade, I have downloaded a new gpm but
that did not help, I probably need to change some configuration file or
startup file... ??
It is annoying, could anyone help ??
Many a thanks in advance
MrLoke
--
ad astra per aspera
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: New to Linux, Flavor questions
Date: 24 Apr 1999 13:07:22 GMT
jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Slackware is also 100x easier to download, I do not recomend trying with
>the others except maybe SuSE which also has a nice disk layout....don't
>touch distributions that put all their files into a single directory
>because you have to download the entire thing. Examples are RedHat and
>Debian,...you need the CD for those 2.
Obviously you've never looked at Debian properly.
The Debian FTP sites have a very sensible, section-based, multiple directory
layout; see http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/ .
>Slackware by definition is also inherently more stable then the rest which
Don't you mean "outdated"? AFAIK Slackware still ships with libc5. libc5 is
no longer maintained upstream, is quite buggy and very bad in terms of
standards conformance.
>update to the latest state of the art deal before being sure it works
>right.
Slackware is still a one-man job. And Linux distributions are simply too big
for one individual to get right.
In Debian, new versions of software are put in the "unstable" (i.e.
unreleased) tree - if you run that, you know what you're getting into. The
"unstable" tree forms the basis for the next "stable" tree. During the code
freeze, in which "unstable" is prepared for release, only bug fixes are
allowed. During the last phase of the code freeze, only major bug fixes are
allowed.
In Debian, the publicly accessible bugtracking system
(http://www.debian.org/Bugs/) is an essential part in ensuring that a
release has high quality.
Ray
--
Obsig: developing a new sig
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Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 06:14:01 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.6
MrLoke wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have upgraded my 2.0.36-7 kernel that came with Red Hat 5.2 to the
> bleeding edge 2.2.6 kernel.
> A problem arose, whenever I exit X windows I get an error message of
> some kind saying that gpm uses the obsolete cua0 update software to use
> ttyS0.
>
> This change ocurred with the upgrade, I have downloaded a new gpm but
> that did not help, I probably need to change some configuration file or
> startup file... ??
rm /dev/mouse
ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/mouse
This assumes your using cua1 now, or COM2 in DOS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: Netscape Plug-In To Display MS-Word (DOC) Files?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:17:50 GMT
On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:46:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>menus, etc)? It would be even better if it gave me an ASCII version to use
>in drafting responses...
>
Take a look at word2x for that purpose.
--
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Andreas Hinz
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From: Frank Paprosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid $PATH question that I am ashamed to ask, but having no pride, I
proceed
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:14:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike) wrote:
> Hi All,
> I recently loaded kde on one of my machines and in the install
> instructions for RedHat it said to make sure that /usr/local/bin was
> in your path. I was logged in as root, (or else su'd, I forget) and
> /usr/local/bin was not there. So thinking I'd take care of it for
> everybody I added it to the PATH line in /etc/profile. When I logged
> on as a regular user and echo'd $PATH I find that /usr/local/bin is
> now in my path 3 separate times!!!! I removed it from /etc/profile
> resourced it and now it only shows up twice. My .bash_profile only has
> PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin. So seeing as how my /etc/profile does not
> contain /usr/local/bin and my .bash_profile doesn't contain
> /usr/local/bin, somewhere it is being added. In fact, /usr/local/bin
> and /usr/X11R6/bin both appear twice. Once before and once after
> $HOME/bin in my path so something is adding those two after my
> .bash_profile is being read. The question, if you've made it this far
> you've probably guessed by now is, WHERE!!! Could someone tell me
> the sequence of how the PATH is set starting from boot-up? I know that
> the system wide path is set in /etc/profile and the individual user
> path is set in .bash_profile but obviously something else is involved
> as I still cannot find where /usr/local/bin is being set from, either
> the first time or the second time. I don't know how to use grep yet to
> search all the files on my hard drive to find instances of
> /usr/local/bin so if someone could help me out I would greatly
> appeciate it. Thank you!!
> mike
>
>
Hi Mike,
Try this :
# cd /
# find . -type f -print -exec fgrep 'PATH=' {} \; |more
This will search the word 'PATH=' into all regular files (excluding binaries
directories, devices etc...) on your system.
If you want to search only in the /etc or /usr directory
type :
# cd /usr
# find . -type .... (same command)
or
# find /etc -type f .....
Hoping that helps
Frank
P.S. read the man pages of the find command this may help you in the future.
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From: Reyn EagleStorm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which window manager?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:27:18 +0200
Tony Smolar wrote:
>
> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:05:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Samuel Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Have you considered blackbox? It's small and not very resource heavy at
> >> all. It's pretty easy to configure, as far as I'm concerned. Not many
> >> frills, but a lot of reliability.
> >
> >That's pretty much my vote. For a window manager needing low resources either
> >BlackBox or WindowMaker will do. I hear IceWM is slim also.
I don't know BlackBox... IceWM is pretty slim, but it's a CPU hog. it
constantly updates the entire screen even when that's not necessary.
> Unless I had a buggy version, I found WM to be a memory hog. It was fast,
> though. BlackBox is probably a good choice.
that WM a memory hog? *checking* hmm, kinda. 2.9% mem, and that's with
128MB RAM and 130MB swap. so it takes something like 7.5MB. seems pretty
reasonable to me, unless you happen to have only 8MB of RAM :-)
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From: Erik Onsager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing CDE with RedHat 5.2
Date: 24 Apr 1999 14:32:21 GMT
Andrew Knapp wrote:
> I want to install the CDE and the guide indicates that a script named
> install-cde is supposed to be on the cdrom... but its not. i want to
> install the CDE but I don't know where it iz or how to go about finding
> it? Help!!
>
> ...
>
> ADK
>
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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TriTeal, the author of CDE, went out of business. I too wanted to
use it under LINUX because of my familiarity with SUN's implementation
under Solaris 2.6. (even their web site www.triteal.com has been
taken over by another company -- that sells web hosting services
(or some such service) presumeably.
Other postings (here) tell me that Red Hat no longer distributes
CDE with their version of Linux.
One way to get the product may be to get an older version of Linux
at a computer show--to get this feature from a time when Red Hat DID
distribute this windows manager. (Don't forget to patch it -- see
the book "Red Hat LINUX Unleashed" p.107.)
Other than that advice, I have some contacts from the old TriTeal
company who MAY be able to point me in another direction. If so,
I'll share that info with folks here (it HAS to be available as
a download somewhere!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fractal landscape generator for Linux?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:47:03 GMT
Do anyone out there know of a program to make fractal landscapes in Linux?
Does there exist _any_ landscape/map generator type of programs for Linux?
Preferably free of course... :)
/ Joachim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: which window manager?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:04:06 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 24 Apr 1999 00:26:31 GMT, Tony Smolar wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:05:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Samuel Knapp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Have you considered blackbox? It's small and not very resource heavy at
>>> all. It's pretty easy to configure, as far as I'm concerned. Not many
>>> frills, but a lot of reliability.
>>
>>That's pretty much my vote. For a window manager needing low resources either
>>BlackBox or WindowMaker will do. I hear IceWM is slim also.
>
>Unless I had a buggy version, I found WM to be a memory hog. It was fast,
>though. BlackBox is probably a good choice.
I like BlackBox, but it can be cumberson to switch between minimized
applications. Oh well, you can't have it all..
--
Dustin Puryear
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: newbie: how to decompress patch-2.2.6.gz
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:31:11 GMT
How to decompress patch-2.2.6.gz.
Please reply to my email address.
Bert
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing CDE with RedHat 5.2
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:58:32 -0700
have you considered using the x86 version of Solaris. It's only 10
dollars for non commercial use and CDE is included.
Gerald
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From: "Fabian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 10:29:24 +0100
Stephan I. Boettcher wrote in message ...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Mading) writes:
>
>> Fabian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>
>> : Steve Mading wrote in message <7fqu1c$br6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> : >Fabian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> : >
>> : >: Allegedly, cloning a male into a female is theoretically possible,
but
>> : not
>> : >: female to male. It has to do with teh fact taht a female zygote
lacks a Y
>> : >: chromosome, while in a male zygote, all taht is needed is to replace
teh
>> : Y
>> : >: with a extra duplicate of the X.
>> : >
>> : >Aren't all males just mutated females? (start out female at first in
>> : >the womb and then 'sex change' as they develop) I can't remember
where
>> : >I heard that, and it could just be layman's stupidity. But if that's
>> : >true, shouldn't it be easier to go from female to male, since it
happens
>> : >roughly 50% of the time in nature anyway?
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> : Males are essentially mutated females, but like anything else in
nature, it
>> : is extremely difficult (read: impossible) to reverse.
>>
>> Very carefully re-read what you said up above in the post I was
>> responding to. It's the opposite of what you are saying now.
>> I'm confused.
>
>Hmm. To me is sounds consistent. Cloning takes place before the
>testosterone comes into the picture. Remove the Y, double the X: no
>testosterone. Inject testosterone, and your back in square one, well,
>almost.
And the weird thing is that a female foetus with a testosterone overdose
will be male to all visible appearances, but will have xx chromosomes.
Perhaps we should do some blood testing on the antechrist's children?
---
Fabian
Rule One: Question the unquestionable,
ask the unaskable, eff the ineffable,
think the unthinkable, and screw the inscrutable.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: installing linux (SUSE) on VFS (umsdos)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:24:19 GMT
Hi, I wanted to try installing suse on umsdos just to try it out but i am
not quite sure how to go about doing that. i went to the
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/umsdos site and reviewed
the docs and i didn't find (that isn't saying is not there, i could easily
missed the obvious) any "this is how you install linux on umsdos" i have done
it using slackware no problems but i have been *told* that slackware is about
the only (large, not counting the little mini dists) dist that supports
installation to umsdos. Any help (or pointing me in the right direction)
would be greatly appricated!
Thank you
--
-Gaiko
Gaikokujin Kyofusho
Student Extraordinare & UN*X Guru Wannbe
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