Linux-Misc Digest #939, Volume #18 Sun, 7 Feb 99 14:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: partition to partition copy? (Frank Adcock)
US Robotics ISA Modem? ("Greg Truax")
Time Synchronization (autodata)
Sorting mail and news (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Getting the time right in netscape and elsewhere. (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Need help with Linux proposal (William Burrow)
Re: one thing that sux about Linux.... (William Burrow)
Re: logging in with your thumb (humor) (Robert Carl Ebrey)
Re: Can't log in as 'root' all of a sudden... (Tommy Willoughby)
smb2www install problem ("tim")
Re: Task - detach and let it run in the background (William Burrow)
Re: L2 cache kills linux : help! (nine@)
Re: Write to disk every five minutes? (Ben Russo)
Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux (steve mcadams)
Re: I am a microsoft user and want to use linux... HELP!!! (steve mcadams)
Argghh!! File searches (Mike Hardy)
Re: Time Synchronization (David Efflandt)
egcs on redhat linux (Aihua Wu)
kernal (ImY2Kool)
Re: Geochron for Linux? (Gary Momarison)
Re: egcs on redhat linux (Ben Russo)
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From: Frank Adcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition to partition copy?
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 01:58:37 +1000
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Try dd.
steve mcadams wrote:
> What's the best tool to use to copy a partition?
>
> I have my Linux root partition set up as a 1G primary, and I have a 1G
> extended partition on another drive that I want to use for a backup of
> the root partition. Norton Ghost will copy the primary into the
> extended, but doesn't want to copy the extended back to the primary.
> Besides, I'd rather use a native tool. tia. -steve
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> dig in - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: "Greg Truax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: US Robotics ISA Modem?
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 12:13:47 -0500
I have a US Robotics 56K Internal voice modem (This is not the Winmodem, so
I believe that it should work under Linux), but when I do a pnpdump, only
the USR modem shows up, when I also have a one-way cable modem that is
supposed to show up. On top of that, the USR modem does not work once I use
isapnp. Does anyone know why this modem does not work? Any help would be
greatly appreciated.
Greg Truax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: autodata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Time Synchronization
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:20:58 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have two time sync issues ...
1. How do I configure the Linux box (server on our LAN) to get the time
from a time server via the Internet?
2. How can I get the WinXX machines on the lan to sync to the Linux
server?
Before we switched from Windows NT to Linux on the server, we were
running a freebie applicaiton from ZD (ExactTime) that did a dial-out to
either the time server in DC or in Boulder, and the WinXX machines used
the NET TIME command to get correct time from the NT server. The
long-distance charges were not great, but the dial-outs were a nuisance.
BTW ... the Linux server is running RH 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36). The network
is running Samba 2.0.
Gerald Jensen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Sorting mail and news
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:15:57 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I need a program to sort large amounts of mail and news stored in
vanilla Unix mailboxes.
It should be a kind of file manager that allows me to open mailboxes
and move messages between them easily. Ideally, there should be drag
and drop, but probably, I will do fine with an MC-like split-window
console interface.
Is there such a beast? I really need to get these dozens of megabytes
of postings and mail that I accumulated sorted.
mawa
--
Every woman and every man should at least try to keep in mind through
their whole life just how incredibly bad one is able to feel during
puberty.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Getting the time right in netscape and elsewhere.
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 01:51:32 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 6 Feb 1999 16:06:38 -0600...
..and Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[schnibble]
> You may be thinking of The Great Shrine of Liberty, the Alamo, which
> is here in the blessed state of Texas, land of the free, a solidly
> Republican state (likely home of the next President of these United
> States) as well being the home of one of the largest -- and most
> active -- LUGs in the world.
>
> We're also #1 in (legal) college football recruiting, too. As if that
> weren't enough, Tux the Penguin is an Aggie.
You know what?
I just managed to stop myself from making a cynic, solidly
anti-American comment about that next President and about what else
Texas is #1 in.
Perhaps there is still hope for me ;)
mawa
--
Unix drives the net, why can't it drive a personal computer.
-- Tony Austin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Need help with Linux proposal
Date: 7 Feb 1999 17:23:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 07:43:09 GMT,
Bob Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm a contract programmer (AS/400 RPG III) and have persuaded the manager
>where
>I am contracting to look at Unix/Linux for a warehouse system. I would
>appreciate any
>information on how to have Linux hooked in to an SNA tcp/ip network to do
>client server
Check into http://www.dejanews.com and search on SNA or IBM in this
newsgroup. The question has been asked before.
>with the AS/400, spread spectrum scanners that could be hooked up with
>Linux, and
>using Linux as a controller for some scanners and automatic palletizers.
Depends if you can find drivers for these devices.
>This will be
>compared against NT.
If you can't find or write the drivers, it kinda goes nowhere doesn't it?
>in the San
>Jose area since once I move on, they will have very little unix experience
There is a web page with contractors on it, search your favourite web engine
for linux +contractors.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: one thing that sux about Linux....
Date: 7 Feb 1999 17:25:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 19:11:38 +0000,
Steve D. Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> One the roster of M$ employees doing stealth posting?
>
> I am sure that large corporations DO quite often use newsgroups to promote
>themselves or degrade their competition, but I seriously doubt that this is the
>case here. A multi-billion dollar corporation would probably create postings
>that are intelligently thought-out and well written, attacking carefully
>selected weak points and vulnerabilities in the competition's product. I don't
>think that "Linux sux! Windoze rulz! Yeah!!!!" would fall under this
>description.... <smile>
Bahahahaha! The M$ agents are everywhere. ;)
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: Robert Carl Ebrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: logging in with your thumb (humor)
Date: 7 Feb 1999 15:02:35 GMT
Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: NF Stevens wrote:
:>
:> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dickopp) wrote:
:>
:> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
:> >Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> >> I am sick of Loonix, username and password, all the time...
:> >> I want to be able to stick my thumb on a thumb-sensitive device
:> >> and log in that way, and I won't ever have to worry about someone
:> >> sniffing my password.
:> >> he, he, :-) ,
:> >> Just think what a priviledge it would be to have the root-thumb :-) .
:> >
:> >Such devices do exist. If you send me such a device (together with
:> >documentation), I'll try to write a Linux driver and a PAM module
:> >for it... :-)
:>
:> Won't you need his thumb as well?
:>
:> Norman
: No, only what any cracker would use to break into this device: a thumb
: print from anything he has recently touched.
I'm afraid that wouldn't work because that would give the reverse image of
his thumb print. Touche :-)
Don't use above e-mail... Instead mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tommy Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't log in as 'root' all of a sudden...
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:46:32 GMT
Ken Howells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a bit of a problem here, and I�m hoping someone can help me out.
> Basically, I suddenly can�t log in to my system as �root�, and that�s the
> only one that
> can run X or do anything useful.
Reboot and at the boot prompt type "linux single" - that will put you into
single-user mode and from there you can go in and fix your file
permissions, etc.
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From: "tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: smb2www install problem
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:22:33 +0100
Hi !
I tried to install smb2www as descriped by the author. But when I try to
access http://localhost/samba/smb2www.pl
then I get the message 403:You are not allowed to access the file on this
server.....
It is no problem to access other sites on my apache-server.
Samba is working fine, I have perl 5.004 installed.
I changed the /etc/httpd/srm.conf (Alias and Scriptalias ) as I was told
after running perl Install.pl !
any idea ?
Thanks in advance
tim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Task - detach and let it run in the background
Date: 7 Feb 1999 17:30:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:06:04 +1100,
Clement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Running a time consuming task can be boring, so do you if there is a way
>to
>
>- start the task
>- enter the parameters interactively
>- detach the task from the running terminal and
>- let it run in the background
>- logoff and close the telnet session
>- telnet to the linux again
>- attach to that task and read the output that the task has sent to the
>stdout
>
>Can you help?
I don't know if there is a way to recover stdout in that case or not.
However, in future, what you should do is redirect the output to a file.
eg.
task params > task.output &
To view the output at anytime whatsoever, simply do:
tail -f task.output
Easy.
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nine@)
Subject: Re: L2 cache kills linux : help!
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 17:05:51 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nine@) wrote:
>just put together a quick & cheap linux box based around a Tekram P5MVP-B4 baby AT
>motherboard + AMD K6 350mhz cpu + SuSE 5.3. The disk set up is SCSI only - using an
>old adaptec AHA 1542b on one of the boards ISA slots (could this be significant?).
>Problem is that linux only runs with the L2 cache disabled (from the boards bios)!!
>When the cache is enabled the whole box goes dead just after LILO kicks in !
>Any ideas of the problem and fixes ?
>thanks.
I got a bit further with this one ... the motherboard jumpers were set for 66mhz SDRAM
and should have been 100mhz! Now i get past the LILO prompt with L2 cache enabled !!!
- only to halt at "VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly." Also during
attempted installations the process halts when reading from the SCSI cdrom. My
uneducated hunch is that the AHA 1542b ISA scsi card just cant handle the high speeds
from the motherboard ... is this a possibility ?! Anymore ideas anyone ? THanks .
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Write to disk every five minutes?
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 10:38:13 -0500
oak wrote:
>
> I'd like to change the behaviour of linux to write to disk every 5 minutes
> instead of every few seconds. Anyone know how I might do this?
>
> update (bdflush) and kflushd seem to be running already, is there a command
> I can give to the system to write to disk only every 5 minutes?
>
> This would allow me to spin down the hard drive long enough to do some
> recording.
>
> Also, I might want to raise this time to, say, an hour or so if I'm just
> editing a file in order to have some real silence - I have a noisy hard
> drive. I can write to a floppy to keep whatever I'm editing backed up.
>
> I recall hearing of some kind of danger in doing this sort of thing....if I'm
> backing up to floppy what exactly can go wrong? Corrupted file system...?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Tony
man bdflush
The danger involved with this is like what follows:
Linux keeps a disk cache of disk blocks.
Whatever is read from disk is put in whatever free RAM is
available. If you write something to disk it goes into whatever
free ram is available as well.
If a change is made to a disk block it is considered
a "dirty" buffer in RAM and bdflush will organize dirty buffers for
efficient writing and "flush" dirty buffers to disk every
few seconds by default.
You can change the behavior of bdflush to lengthen or shorten
the periodicity of flushes. However if you have a poweroutage,
or if a disk is removed without gracefully unmounting (umount will
"sync" the buffers with disk) then whatever dirty buffers there
were were never written to disk.
Because bdflush only knows about blocks, and does not care about
filesystems this could result in situations where the filesystem
becomes corrupt. Some of the blocks of a file could have been
flushed to disk without others.
-Ben.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Sick of Windows, newbie thinking about Linux
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:02:06 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 13:43:25 -0600, Rob O'Connell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>download it for free 8-)
>or cheapbytes.com for the $1.99 cd....
Just don't forget that you're downloading 500+meg so you better not
try it with a 14.4 modem <G> Takes a Long Time to download that large
a file even with a T1 line. Besides, cheapbytes needs the money (and
actually deserves it imho). -steve
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dig in - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: I am a microsoft user and want to use linux... HELP!!!
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 03:02:07 GMT
Hey Jerry,
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 15:53:03 -0600, Jerry Lynn Kreps
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Then, boot your RH CDROM and when you come to the second about running
>"Disk Druid" or Fdisk choose Fdisk.
No kidding... Disk Druid is the kiss-of-death in my book.
> It will allow you to break up the
>new partition into at least two smaller ones.
>Make one about twice the size of your onboard RAM memory, or 128MB max.
>it will be the swap space.
Note some distributions max at 127M from what I've seen.
>The rest will be '/' (root) and contain everything else. This is the
>simplest installation. But it doesn't allow you to unload a partition
>and do maintainance or modifications on it because the system software
>is on the one and only partition.
Not necessarily all bad. If you're running a multi-boot system, you
might want to mount one of your DOS partitions as /home, that way you
can share files no matter who's running. -steve
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dig in - http://www.codetools.com/showcase
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From: Mike Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Argghh!! File searches
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:00:19 -0500
Is there a preferred site where one can reliably search for
Linux-related source tars? 6 months ago the great URL Caldera had
disappeared. I'm fed up with Redhat's rotating file search URL (I get
the imression they don't want you using their site to d/l source tars
since they make it so hard to find the mechanism. It used to be
redhat.com/search - now it's gone). There was a great site for awhile
which handled regexp searches (http://las.ml.org/) but that seems to be
gone also. Maybe I don't know how to use Archie very well but all I
ever seem to find using Archie searches are directory names and all
kinds of crap _except_ the *tgz I'm interested in. As an example, I'm
trying to locate jpeg lib 6.0.1. Using Archie and jpeg.*t(ar\.)?gz
returns directories, text files on jpeg, etc. If one of the hits
included the tar, there is so much chaff I can't see it without having
to read through a hundred other hits also. (This was just an example -
please don't flood me with places I can get libjpeg at). Any favorite,
dedicated search URLs would be appreciated.
Thanks...
==============================
Mike Hardy
AlphaServer Development Group
Digital Equipment Corporation
Maynard, MA 01754
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Auntie Em: Hate you, hate Kansas; took the dog - Dorothy
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From: David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Time Synchronization
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 18:06:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/7/99, 11:20:58 AM, autodata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding=20
Time Synchronization:
> I have two time sync issues ...
> 1. How do I configure the Linux box (server on our LAN) to get the=20
time
> from a time server via the Internet?
There is ntp or xntp in the 5.2 rpms. Just install it, and in=20
ip-up.local put:
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -bs ntp3.cs.wisc.edu \
ntp-2.cso.uiuc.edu wuarchive.wustl.edu
/sbin/setclock
Except, see the link in the docs for list of Stratum 2 time servers in=20
your area. Do not use Stratum 1 timeservers unless you are a major=20
network.
> 2. How can I get the WinXX machines on the lan to sync to the Linux
> server?
See the samba faq.
> Before we switched from Windows NT to Linux on the server, we were
> running a freebie applicaiton from ZD (ExactTime) that did a dial-out =
to
> either the time server in DC or in Boulder, and the WinXX machines=20
used
> the NET TIME command to get correct time from the NT server. The
> long-distance charges were not great, but the dial-outs were a=20
nuisance.
> BTW ... the Linux server is running RH 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36). The=20
network
> is running Samba 2.0.
> Gerald Jensen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aihua Wu)
Crossposted-To: gnu.gcc.help
Subject: egcs on redhat linux
Date: 6 Feb 1999 23:44:38 -0800
Hi, all:
I have installed redhat linux.
It has no gcc but egcs compiler. So I ln egcs gcc so
that I can compile some code.
However some head file can ont be found.
it2dic.c:36: stdio.h: No such file or directory
it2dic.c:37: ctype.h: No such file or directory
it2dic.c:38: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
it2dic.c:39: string.h: No such file or directory
it2dic.c:40: memory.h: No such file or directory
Is there any FAQ for egcs?
Thanks in advance.
Aihua Wu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ImY2Kool)
Subject: kernal
Date: 7 Feb 1999 18:08:35 GMT
ok here my problem:
b after about the 10th try I finaly got RedHat installed on my system (like
u did it your first try) and with out thinkingset it up as the main OS to boot
Well I didnt want this I wanted windows to be the main to boot so at /root I
typed lilo -U witch did the trick it restord my windows. but now Im not sure
how to get in Linux I go into LoadLin and it says to enter the kernal image
name. I dont know what to do here, I have tryed Zimage, Core, Linux, Lilo, and
about anything elese I could think of but it just says "Image not found" so
whare is my Kernal? in the setup I told it to put the lilo at the begining of
my second partition (whare linux is).
Thanx,
Y2Kool
P.S. I need a reply soon before I pull all my hair out!!!!
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Geochron for Linux?
Date: 07 Feb 1999 10:10:38 -0800
> >Has anyone seen or heard of a version of geochron for linux?
> >
> >Geochron is a program that shows a map of the world, with real-time
> >display of the areas that are covered by daylight.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> Try searching one of the popular Linux search engines.
And search for "xearth".
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: egcs on redhat linux
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 13:56:28 -0500
Aihua Wu wrote:
>
> Hi, all:
>
> I have installed redhat linux.
> It has no gcc but egcs compiler. So I ln egcs gcc so
> that I can compile some code.
> However some head file can ont be found.
>
> it2dic.c:36: stdio.h: No such file or directory
> it2dic.c:37: ctype.h: No such file or directory
> it2dic.c:38: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
> it2dic.c:39: string.h: No such file or directory
> it2dic.c:40: memory.h: No such file or directory
>
> Is there any FAQ for egcs?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Aihua Wu
You just don't have development libraries or the gcc
compiler installed.
rpm -i glibc-devel-2.0.7-29.i386.rpm
<standard version that comes with RH5.2>
<or you could get a later version>
rpm -i gcc-2.7.2.3-14.i386.rpm
<standard version that comes with RH5.2>
<or you could get a later version>
These are on the install medium that RedHat came on.
Or you can find them at local RPM ftp sites.
Of course the files have to be in the directory you
are in if the above commands are to work.
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