Linux-Misc Digest #974, Volume #19 Wed, 28 Apr 99 09:13:10 EDT
Contents:
How does RH determine the soundcard? (Thomas Adams)
Re: Delete Linux's partition : HELP ! (Bernat Ginard)
Re: Burning playable music CD's (jik-)
Re: WORDS OF WISDOM!! Upgrading RedHat 5.1 to 2.2.X Kernel (Hans Wolters)
LOCAL: Imperial College Union LUG InstallFest, 12th May 1999, London, UK (Henry Tang)
Re: Dos Text Files to Linux Text Files (Jeremy)
Re: linux on floppy? (**Nick Brown)
Re: vfat filesystem Debian Linux (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Can SlackWare do it? (**Nick Brown)
Re: Mozilla: can't type in URL ? (**Nick Brown)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Charlie Stross)
Games (MrLoke)
Re: wget & SSL (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Re: Newbie: Learning Linux And Databases (Bob Angell)
Re: resizing "growable" partitions ("D. Vrabel")
Re: Dos Text Files to Linux Text Files ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Delete Linux's partition : HELP ! (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Strange lockup (in X) ("John Burton")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Adams)
Subject: How does RH determine the soundcard?
Date: 28 Apr 1999 11:15:00 GMT
I installed RH 5.2 on a P-II yesterday and I was amazed that it had a tool
which scanned the computer for the soundcard. It not only told me which one
it found but also installed drivers for it without installing a new kernel
as far as I could tell.
How exactly does this work and can I use this on other kinds of Linux as
well? I have a couple of machines with unknown soundcards which I can't open
for various reasons. A tool that can tell me which type of soundcard there
is would be very welcome.
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From: Bernat Ginard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delete Linux's partition : HELP !
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:16:42 +0200
> =
> Hi,
> I have installed Linux RH-5.2 on partition 1GB of my disk 2.1GB. I use
> dual boot Win95/Linux.
> Now I have another HDD 2.1 and I would like delete Linux on my old disk=
> in order to reinstall Linux on my new disk.
> How to delete Linux's partition and retrieve this partition for Win95 ?=
> Thanks in advance !
>
Simply change the type of the partition with fdisk (from
linux) to Win95 FAT32 and format if from windows.
--
_____________________________________________________
Bernat Ginard Llad=F3
Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kaos.es
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:30:51 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning playable music CD's
Alan Burns wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, jik- wrote:
>
> >> That's true of ANY disc. The data on a CD-R is stored on the underside of the
> >> top coating, and if you scratch the top, you're destroying the data.
> >
> >Sanyo disks have a very strong coating, more like a CDROM. The coating
> >on the top is the same as what is on the bottom.....so apperently not
> >all disks are like that.
>
> All CD-R blanks are transparent on the bottom and coated on the top. The
> reflective surface where the data actually lives in on the top side of the CD.
> The laser passes through the clear part and reflects off of the underside of
> the top coating. If you scratch the top side of *ANY* CD-R, it's ruined. It
> doesn't have anything to do with brands, that's just how they work and they're
> all made the same.
>
> If you don't believe me, scratch one and see. :-)
Hmm...I guess this CD-R in my hand doesn't exist....didn't think I took
any LSD tonight,...maybe I just forgot.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: WORDS OF WISDOM!! Upgrading RedHat 5.1 to 2.2.X Kernel
Date: 28 Apr 1999 11:30:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and wrote the .........
...............
>What exactly is the purported problem with updating RH5.1 to
>kernel 2.2.x? I moved this machine running RH5.1 from
>kernel 2.0.34 to kernel 2.2.1 a couple months ago already
>and besides a couple trivial issues with printers and serial
>ports and xosview not working until I updated that, it's
>been rock-solid stable and fine as far as I can tell.
You're not the only one. I have updated 5.1 to the 2.2.5 kernel. As long as
your read the Changes file (included with the new kernel) it should work. I
had to update about 5 packages. The only problem I had was that Midnight
Commander didn't run anymore. This can be solved by getting the newest
source from www.gnome.org and compile it with the --without-gnome option.
The serial problems can be fixed mnaking new links to the ttyS devices i.e:
cd /dev
rm mouse
ln -s /dev/ttySX mouse
where X is your port number.
2.2.5 runs stable ass a rock.
Regards Hans
--
Java Search Engine Front End
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/
Linux Links/CMI8330 Soundpro HOWTO
http://home.gelrevision.nl/~h.wolter/linux.htm
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From: Henry Tang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOCAL: Imperial College Union LUG InstallFest, 12th May 1999, London, UK
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:34:19 +0100
The Imperial College Union Linux User Group (ICULUG) is planning to hold
its 2nd event of the year, an InstallFest on the 12th of May 1999. The
provisional time and place are 2pm in Room 101, Civil Engineering
Department, Imperial College. Admission is free and contact me for more
details.
InstallFest
~~~~~~~~~~~
For those of you who needs help to install Linux on your
PCs/laptops (with or without Windows 95/98/NT installed) and would like
us to give you a hand, you are very welcome to bring your own
PCs/laptops along, note that you don't have to bring your monitors, only
the main units.
Please remember to contact me to let me know that you are planning to do
so. For those of you who cannot bring your own PCs along for the event,
you are welcome to come along and get a feeling of how to install Linux
on PCs.
AGM
~~~
Short for Annual General Meeting, this is all about electing new
committee members for next academic year and suggesting what we should
do or organise next year. Unfortunately, this is only open to members of
the Imperial College.
--
Henry Tang (PG)
Computational Fluid Dynamics Section,
Mechanical Engineering Department,
Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine,
University of London.
Tel. : (0171)-594-7109
Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Webpage : http://monet.me.ic.ac.uk/people/hltang/
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From: Jeremy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dos Text Files to Linux Text Files
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 02:55:06 -0500
You can use dos2unix (and unix2dos if you need to go the other way).
Both are avaliable at:
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/utils/text/
Jeremy
Jason Bond wrote:
>
> Do any of you helpful folk out there know of a good way to
> convert a dos text file to a linux text file? See, when I read my
> dos text files in vi, all of the carriage returns are replaced by
> control-m's and carriage returns....terribly annoying. Thanks
> kindly for any help.
>
> Jason
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux on floppy?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:08:27 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't know of any floppy distributions for retail sale. It would need
hundreds of disks.
You can get various mini-Linuxes like mulinux, tomsrtbt, etc (check
AltaVista), but you have
to download them too, and they are not exactly full-featured.
A second-hand quad-speed IDE CD drive is about $30 these days. Try your
local PC dealer,
or even stores like Cash Convertors.
Erik Ryberg wrote:
> I have been unsuccessful in my search for linux on 3" floppy. Several
> web sites advertise that it is easily available but I have not found
> this to be so. Can anyone point me to a source? I cannot download to
> my computer and it has no cd drive.
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)int)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: vfat filesystem Debian Linux
Date: 28 Apr 1999 08:10:43 GMT
Charles Pouliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I was using mount -t vfat, that's what the mount command tells me.
Weird. I can't think of a good explanation for your problems then, except
perhaps that you are running a kernel that hasn't been compiled for (V)FAT
support, or that it is missing modules.
>Do you think I need mtools or that mtools would help?
mtools provides an alternative way to access floppies that does not require
mounting them. It would surely be a workaround to your current problems,
though not a solution as such.
Ray
--
Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can SlackWare do it?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:11:10 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh shit, you're right. I should read more closely. Duhhhh. *gunshot*
Allen Wong wrote:
> Uh, I think he's having trouble just installing Linux.
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)int)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mozilla: can't type in URL ?
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:13:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, Debian is not known for being super-up-to-date on the latest
versions, but even their "unstable" section has the same version. OTOH,
Debian normally contains reasonably well-tested stuff, and since typing
URLs seems reasonably fundamental to a Web browser, I just wanted to
check that I hadn't forgotten to type an undocumented magic incantation.
brian moore wrote:
> Probably the same place you got a 6-month-old copy of Mozilla.
> When working with dev-ware, you really should stay up to date.
--
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Nick Brown, Strasbourg, France (Nick(dot)Brown(at)coe(dot)int)
Protect yourself against Word 95/97 viruses, free - check out
http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/Vineyard/1446/atlas-t.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Stross)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:28:40 GMT
Reply-To: charlie @ nospam . antipope . org
Stoned koala bears drooled eucalyptus spittle in awe
as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> declared:
>This was probably intentional knowing Richard Stallman. Stallman wrote the
>Manefesto shortly after Gosling took Stallman's version of emacs, which he had
>put in public domain, and proceeded to add proprietary extensions while
>refusing share any of the benefits (royalties, enhancements, derivitave
>products, ...) with Stallman. In effect, Gosling tried to steal emacs from
>Stallman, who was a student or teacher at the time.
I think you're completely missing the central point.
The free software movement is basically the little boy standing by the
parade, pointing at the Emperor, and shouting "but he isn't wearing
anything!" The emperor in question is, of course, our current notion of
intellectual property.
Let's go and take a peek through the wonderful cinemascope time-viewer,
and replay some interesting bits of history,
Back before the Gutenberg revolution, if you'd suggested the concept of
copyright to anyone who was literate they'd probably have stared at you
as if you were mad. Copying information was a highly labour-intensive
operation: a mass market for duplicated texts simply didn't -- and
couldn't -- exist.
Patents -- or their forerunners -- existed, in the form of royal grants
to some individual or guild to have exclusive ownership of some tool or
mechanism for production, and the guilds had their secrets, but the
legal basis for ownership of trade secrets was different from the basis
we understand today: you owned one because the King said he'd hang
anybody else who muscled in on your turf (as long as you behaved
yourself and paid your taxes). The contemporary explanation of patent
rights would be incomprehensible, because the concept of a society based
on a social contract and mutual observation of rights didn't exist: there
was no mechanism whereby society (or its legislators) could agree to
grant rights to inventors in order to encourage their creativity.
Let's hit the fast-forward button a bit, and take the leap into the age
of enlightenment -- post-printing-press, post-monarchical.
Duplicating texts had become a problem by the nineteenth century. Earlier
solutions included licensing printing presses, but in a society that
encourages free speech there's no obvious justification for that. A
situation arose where any aspiring novelist who published a book would
be vulnerable to unscrupulous printers copying their work and re-selling
it, pocketing the profits that accrued. Mass literacy brought its own
new social problems.
The solution to this problem was the idea of copyright; that the author of
a work had the power to grant a right of copying over it. A sensible
and moderate solution within the context of the time, because printing
presses were big and pirate printers could be tracked down and sued in
civil court.
A similar approach was taken to inventions; it was merely common sense
that an inventor who came up with a genuinely new innovation should have
the right to reap some profit from it before carpetbagging imitators
duplicated the idea and swamped the market. Patents originally were a
sign of progress; by protecting inventions they made it feasible to
publish details of them, rather than trying to maintain the secrecy
surrounding them. This in turn encouraged a climate of invention.
Secrecy, as we should all know, is one of the enemies of progress.
And now let's hit that fast-forward button again and jump all the way
to the present day.
The concept of copyright has been over-extended. From protecting an
individual author's rights to their work, it has been extended to
protect vast corporations. From covering published books and pamphlets
that some individual slaved over, it now covers what a Marxist economist
would call alienated labour -- the capital accumulation of information.
By extending copyright seventy years after the author's death our
legislators haven't done anything for their surviving families, but have
taken a large chunk of our common cultural heritage and handed it over
to faceless corporations who can dole it out on a commercial basis. By
extending copyright cover to music, the legislators have granted new
rights: the music industry in turn is concerned with constructively
extending their copyright in such a way that the consumers pay per
performance, rather than paying a one-off purchase fee related to the
recording medium. And so on.
The patent laws have also been shown to be defective. Software patents
run for the same 20-year period as normal patents: but in the febrile
world of software, 20 years covers as many generations as 75 years in
the automobile industry or 250 years in the construction industry.
Meanwhile, patent agency staff who are manifestly untrained for the task
grant patents on inappropriate inventions and things which simply are
_not_ inventions, such as the algorithms underlying public-key
encryption. By granting patents on mathematical principles, they are
hampering the growth of the industry rather than fostering it; it's as
if they had allowed some company to patent the refractive index of glass
and claim royalties from any other company producing materials that
shared that physical characteristic.
And so, we come to the free software movement: loudly declaring "but
your whole idea of copyrights and patents and selling something that can
be copied freely is a load of crap! Charge for support and services,
make the software itself free, and you won't have to deal with these
internal contradictions!"
Well, time will tell. Personally, I think the answer is a thorough
overhaul of copyright and patent laws, drafted _not_ from the point of
view of the big multinationals (who want to be able to copyright
database schemas and patent mathematical theorems if it helps them make
more profits) but from the point of view of the original agreed social
goals -- to protect the writers (and programmers, and musicians) from
plagiarism, and to encourage the inventors to keep inventing and raising
our standard of living.
-- Charlie
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From: MrLoke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Games
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:23:56 +0200
Hello,
What's everyone's experience with Linux and games? good?
I've heard that Civilisation : CTP has been ported to Linux, that's
great.
And what about wine and windows games like Starcraft : Brood War ?
I've just begun using Linux and I'd like to hear what you have to say.
MrLoke
--
ad astra per aspera
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: wget & SSL
Date: 28 Apr 1999 08:21:45 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can i use wget for SSL site ?
I'm not aware of SSL support for wget, but you could use another
webretriever that has, like curl
(http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1998/08/21/903686489.html).
HTH,
Ray
--
Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 06:41:22 -0600
From: Bob Angell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie: Learning Linux And Databases
You can always try DB2 UDB for Linux!
See http://www.ibm.com/linux
Rupinder wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:27:35 -0500, Jose Santiago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >--------------54739A62BCC369C6B6F7C098
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
> >
> >Rupinder wrote:
> >
> >> Postgre - any good?
> >> Informix-SE - reliable? I have heard many people have problems with
> >> this...
> >> Sybase - is this free...? I'll have to call them... there is no price
> >> on their site... Is it good and reliable?
> >> Oracle 8 - $3000 CDN !!! - too expensive !!!
> >
> >Use MySQL http://www.mysql.com . You will need a version of Linux with
> >Linux Threads. Slackware 4.0 has them.
>
> My understanding was that MySQL didnt support stored procedures?
>
> The Sybase Version that is out.. how reliable is it.. as it is
> unsupported.
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: resizing "growable" partitions
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:39:06 +0100
On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Tadas Paegle wrote:
> Does anyone know how to resize a growable partition in linux. I have a
> full 4GB HHD dedicated to linux. Apparently I made my /opt too small.
> I have kde and netscape on it now, but I want to install Sybase and it's
> rpm wants to go there....my /usr/local dir have tons of room. I was
> either thinking of trying to force Sybase to go to a different dir
> (can't figure that out) or taking some space from /usr/local and moving
> it to /opt. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
symlink /opt/sybase (or whatever) to a directory on /usr/local eg
/opt/sybase -> /usr/local/sybase
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Dos Text Files to Linux Text Files
Date: 28 Apr 1999 10:24:17 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
brian moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:19:04 -0700,
> Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Do any of you helpful folk out there know of a good way to
>> convert a dos text file to a linux text file? See, when I read my
>> dos text files in vi, all of the carriage returns are replaced by
>> control-m's and carriage returns....terribly annoying. Thanks
>> kindly for any help.
>
>In vi: ':%s/^V^M//' (that's what you type, anyway, you'll see
>':%s/^M//' after typing it since the ^V is just to let you type the ^M).
>
>Of course, if you're using vim, it will remember that you loaded a DOS
>file and will put the ^M's back unless you tell it not to. See the vim
>manual, since I use vile. :)
If you're using vim, the commands ":set textmode" and ":set notextmode" seem
to make it write the file with and without CRs in addition to the LFs
respectively. (I say "seem" 'cause I haven't actually looked at the manual
page for what textmode really means; it works for me).
regards,
--
Jon Ashley
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Delete Linux's partition : HELP !
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:35:45 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Use DOS fdisk - carefully! - to delete the non-DOS partitions, and
re-create as you please.
Mark.
Nguyen-Dai Quy wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have installed Linux RH-5.2 on partition 1GB of my disk 2.1GB. I use
> dual boot Win95/Linux.
> Now I have another HDD 2.1 and I would like delete Linux on my old disk
> in order to reinstall Linux on my new disk.
> How to delete Linux's partition and retrieve this partition for Win95 ?
> Thanks in advance !
>
> _____________________________________________________
> NGUYEN-DAI Quy
> LTAS-Fracture Mechanics, University of Liege.
> Rue Ernest Solvay 21, Bat C3, B-4000, Liege, Belgium.
> http://ltas18.ltas.ulg.ac.be/~quy
> _____________________________________________________
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From: "John Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange lockup (in X)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:43:55 +0100
No, but I'll rebuild my kernel with that option in and try it when it locks
up again.
-
jason wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Do you have Alt-SysRq support compiled into your kernel? If so, you can
try
>to turn off keyboard raw mode with Alt-Sysrq-R, then type Ctrl-Alt-F1 to
>switch to a virtual console, from which you can kill of X. If this doesn't
>work, you're probably SOL. :-( Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt
>for more info.
>
>I've had X freeze on me, but now I think it's the whole kernel freezing,
since
>the magic alt-sysrq don't work for me then, and it only happens when the
mobo's
>ambient temperature reaches 40-42 C. Maybe you will have more luck than
I...
>
>-jason
>
>(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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