Linux-Misc Digest #974, Volume #20 Fri, 9 Jul 99 01:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: embedded computers (Tim Keating)
Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps? (Jason Earl)
[&u?] and [@'b&u?] (was: Pronouncing ['lI n@ks] - your vote!) (Tom Christiansen)
Re: printing from a remote Solaris box (Frank Hahn)
Re: Problems with ATI Mach64 on RH 6.0 (Brad Felmey)
Re: printer question (Frank Hahn)
Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something) (Robert McConnell)
Re: LOCAL: New LUG in Roswell Georga USA ("H. Michael Smith, Jr.")
Re: ident server (Ben Short)
Netscape and CGI (scable)
Re: nfs export of raw device??? (Daniel Robert Franklin)
Re: ! ("H. Michael Smith, Jr.")
Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps? ("Brett R. Rosselle")
how to comment /etc/passwd (Patrick)
Re: linx vs hurd (brian moore)
Special! ("Apelsin")
Re: chroot with ftp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
suse, RH...? (Daniel Forester)
Re: ! (Sultan)
Default permissions/ownership ("Brett Stime (steamer25 at hotmail dot com)")
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From: Tim Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: embedded computers
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 02:29:48 GMT
Brett Alexander wrote:
>
> Hello I am Computer Engineering student and for my senior design project I
> am using the Explorer II microcontroller (EXPLRII) to interface with a
> desktop computer, through the serial port. I was wondering if Linux could
> be used as a viable operating system for the embedded computer. If anyone
> has any valuable advice it would most helpful. Thank you.
>
> Brett
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
Take a wander over to http://slashdot.org and do a search on
"embedded". Lots of different takes on Linux on small and embedded
systems.
Tim
--
Linus' Corollary to Parkinson's Law: Linux expands to run all the
computers available.
Alan W. Frame in uk.comp.os.linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Earl)
Subject: Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 02:40:46 GMT
On 8 Jul 1999 22:14:49 GMT, Gergo Barany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <_sQg3.81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brett R. Rosselle wrote:
>>Does anybody know of a good site that has an abundance of Linux apps that
>>are not X based? I am running Slackware 4.0 on some machines without X (disk
>>space & video limitations).
>
>Freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/, use a mirror) has an index of a lot of
>command line applications. Exactly what are you looking for, maybe we
>could make recommendations?
>
>Gergo
Or maybe I can save you some time. Emacs does EVERYTHING :).
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [&u?] and [@'b&u?] (was: Pronouncing ['lI n@ks] - your vote!)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 8 Jul 1999 20:42:42 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:There is nonetheless a tendancy for those from as far west as Ontario
:to have a subtle bit of "oo" in words similar to "about." It's not
:drastic; here in Texas, people are just able to notice it.
I really don't think it's a mere [u], as if it were [@'but] -- well,
that's one rendition of "oo". Another rendering of "oo" is [U], but
that would be [@'bUt], and I've surely never heard that. Of course,
there are actually a few more for "oo" depending on where you are.
Do you see the source of my desperate pleas to use clear symbols? :-(
Nor do I really think it's even [@'boUt] as some occasionally propose.
What I think is happening is that the [AU] diphthong in "about",
normally [@'bAUt], is letting its broad [A] nasalize somewhat into a
higher and tighter [&]. I'm not sure anything at all is happening with
the closing part of the diphthong, but it does make some sense that a
similar tightening might occur simple due to proximity.
This leaves us with something that's more of an [@'b&Ut], which is what
I think it is. Plus the trailing [t] often becomes a mere glottal stop
[?], leaving us [@'b&u?], but of course that happens in most dialects.
I could be wrong, but please try it these various ways and see which
most closely matches up with your own personal experience. Although I
was raised in southern Wisconsin, I have a lot of family from the Lake
Superior region (US side) and spent a lot of time around Duluth and
Green Bay growing up. I've also probably spent at least five months in
as many years in Ottawa and Toronto. I really have tried to identify
what's going on.
As always, decryption of standard IPA symbols is at
http://language.perl.com/misc/IPA/
[T&ts rOit, Iz-n'tIt, m&It]? :-)
--tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: printing from a remote Solaris box
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 03:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 06 Jul 1999 22:33:30 GMT, Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I telnet to a Solaris machine and would like to print files from that
>machine to the printer attached to the Linux box. The printer is
>named in the printers.conf file on the Solaris box. However when I
>try a lpr -Pdj690 test.ps I get the following error..
>
>error transferring print job xxx
>check queue for ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>where my.local.system.net is the name of my linux box...
>
How was the remote printer setup on the Solaris machine. Did
you try adding it through the admintool program or through the
command line?
On all of the Solaris machines that I use (several running
Solaris 2.4 and one at home using Solaris 2.6), I use the lp
command (not lpr) to print to both local and remote printers.
--
Frank Hahn
It is illegal to say "Oh, Boy" in Jonesboro, Georgia.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Felmey)
Subject: Re: Problems with ATI Mach64 on RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 03:23:08 GMT
On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 01:31:33 GMT, "Donald E. Stidwell"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Brad Felmey wrote:
>
>> You're not alone in this boat. My AGP Rage IIc 8MB does *horrid*
>> things under RH6 X. I've pulled the current X and Mach64 server from
>> Redhat's mirrors, but still terrible/borderline unusable. Time for a
>> Matrox, I guess.
>> --
>> Brad Felmey
>
>I use a Rage IIc 4MB and had a devil of a time getting it to look right with
>Xconfigurator. The solution for me was to use XF86Setup and select a lower
>resolution monitor. Now I've got a very readable and stable 1024x768 at 16-bit
>colour. This problem with the Rage IIc is exhibited in all the distro's I've
>used and the solution is always the same: use XF86Setup instead of Xconfigurator
>or SAX or whatever and choose a lower resolution monitor.
Well, I used XF86Setup, and deliberately chose a lower resolution
monitor setting than I knew I had, but it looks.... well.....the same.
<g>
It's wierd. The display just kind of "wraps" underneath itself on the
right side of the screen at 1024x768. Oh, well, the Rage will make a
nice addition to the local landfill. I have an extra PCI Matrox
Millenium sitting around, and I'll just use it for now.
--
Brad Felmey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: printer question
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 03:10:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 00:52:02 +0800, Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I have a Panasonic KX-1123 dot-matrix printer I use to print 2 part
>>invoices with, and I'm trying to do this in Linux using Applix.
>>This is *not* a postscript capable printer, and Applix only does postscript.
>
>Investigate Magicfilter. Converts postscript files to data your printer
>understands.
>
Just remember that the magicfilter program uses other helper programs
to do the actual converting. In the case of Postscript, you will need
to install ghostscript to convert Postscript to a common language that
your printer can understand.
--
Frank Hahn
A witty saying proves nothing, but saying something pointless gets
people's attention.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert McConnell)
Subject: Re: computer literacy (was 'Linux viruses' or something)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 04:44:36 GMT
Stephen,
A computer is a far more complicated device than an automobile. Your
auto does exactly one task - it moves from one place to another. A
computer is capable of doing hundreds of different tasks, all
depending on the software it runs. Each software program may be
capable of hundreds of functions, while an auto only has a few dozen.
Each software program may have a unique user interface, while even
comparing all brands of autos there are really only two variations of
one interface - standard and automatic. Individual controls may be
slightly different, but all autos have the same basic controls. Not so
with a computer. There are literally hundreds of different controls
available, and probably that many more that haven't been thought of
yet.
It only takes a few hours to learn how to use an auto, although it
does take some practice to learn to use it safely and without having
to focus on the hardware instead of the path you are guiding it along.
But it can take months of study to learn how to use even a limited set
of computer applications in a way that they become tools to apply to
tasks instead of tasks in themselves.
As a result, most "users" are actually only following a set of rote
instructions prepared by someone who understands what the tool is
doing. These basic "users" are exactly like the data entry clerks they
were supposed to replace, until they take the time to understand what
they are doing and how the computer is actually being used. Only those
few that make a real effort to expand their horizons will move beyond
the point of being appliance users, or data entry clerks.
Bob McConnell
N2SPP
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 17:02:00 -0400, Stephen Thomas
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And because of M$oft's 'easy
>> point-and-click' GUI, most of the people using these systems tend to
>> NOT be computer literate and in fact M$oft's 'easy point-and-click' GUI
>> discourages true computer literacy, which just makes things even
>> easier for the crackers to spread these worms.
>
>I am not 'auto literate' but I use my car effectively and safely every day. Why
>does anyone have to be 'computer literate' to effectively and safely use a
>computer? Why can't it be so intuitive that a user just sits down and everything
>functions obviously? It's just a tool like a phone or a microwave. Don't get me
>wrong, I think the MS approach in general sucks, but your computer literacy
>argument is not one well taken.
>
>Stephen Thomas
>
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From: "H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LOCAL: New LUG in Roswell Georga USA
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:20:54 -0400
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My office is @ 400 and Northridge I'd be interested. Warning: I'm
pretty green with Linux. :)
// Michael
Rick Ford wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Lorance Stinson wrote:
>
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>>
>> I am in the process of creating a new LUG. It will be centered in
Roswell
>> Georgia USA. I accept anyone with even a slightly open mind that
has any
>> interest in Linux.
>>
>
>Where abouts in Roswell will the group meet? I'm west of you near
Towncenter
>Mall, but I'm willing to make the drive versus going to GA Tech for
meetings.
>
>Let me know.
>
>Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: ident server
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:00:15 +1000
In article <7m304t$lm1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> I have a Linux box which is the server for two windows boxes using
> IP Masquarading Does any one know how I can get the Linux box to act as
> a ident server for these two boxes?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bob
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
try looking for a program called oidentd - a replacement for the current
in.identd. This supports IP masquerading, and can be set up to give
ident's based on internal LAN IPs...
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From: scable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: netscape.public.mozilla.unix
Subject: Netscape and CGI
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 22:59:40 -0500
Does anyone know what I need to do to get CGI
scripts to work w/ Netscape on Red Hat 6.0?
When my browser goes to one of my scripts, it
just prints the entire text of the script file.
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Robert Franklin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: nfs export of raw device???
Date: 9 Jul 99 03:23:37 GMT
Wade Hampton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have several questions:
>1. Is there any way to export a raw device such as a serial
> port or raw disk partition to another client on another machine?
> The IOCTLs could be done locally.... If it were a disk, I would
> need random access (i.e., a simple rsh would not work)....
I think this is what "Network Block Devices" do. Check the option under
block devices in the 2.2 kernel source.
>2. Is there a file system for Linux that supports > 2GB files? Possibly
> UFS (I can read and write, but can't format UFS),
Don't know about that. Get an alpha, then ext2 should work with > 2 GB
files :-)
>or XFS (from
>SGI?)?
Not part of the kernel yet AFAIK.
- Daniel
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* Daniel Franklin - Postgraduate student in Electrical Engineering
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "H. Michael Smith, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: !
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:29:42 -0400
Gergo Barany wrote in message ...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patric Mahoney wrote:
>>!
>
>?
#!*
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Reply-To: "Brett R. Rosselle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Brett R. Rosselle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where To Find Non-X Based Linux Apps?
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:06:02 -0500
Thanks. I'll check it out. I wasn't looking for anything specific, just good
place to browse.
Thanks again.
--
Brett R. Rosselle
Bertelsmann mediaSystems
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1.317.542.6886 Tel
+1.317.542.6550 Fax
Gergo Barany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <_sQg3.81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brett R. Rosselle wrote:
> >Does anybody know of a good site that has an abundance of Linux apps that
> >are not X based? I am running Slackware 4.0 on some machines without X
(disk
> >space & video limitations).
>
> Freshmeat (http://freshmeat.net/, use a mirror) has an index of a lot of
> command line applications. Exactly what are you looking for, maybe we
> could make recommendations?
>
> Gergo
>
> --
> Politics is like coaching a football team. You have to be smart enough
> to understand the game but not smart enough to lose interest.
>
> GU d- s:+ a--- C++>$ UL+++ P>++ L+++ E>++ W+ N++ o? K- w--- !O !M !V
> PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t* 5+ X- R>+ tv++ b+>+++ DI+ D+ G>++ e* h! !r !y+
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick)
Subject: how to comment /etc/passwd
Date: 9 Jul 1999 03:00:51 GMT
hello,
how to comment /etc/passwd file?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: linx vs hurd
Date: 9 Jul 1999 04:09:45 GMT
On 4 Jul 1999 20:22:18 -0400,
Paul Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> May I politely suggest you purchase a dictionary? Your spelling is so
> atrocious I can hardly make out what you're trying to say. About the topic
> which you discuss, you really could use to watch computerdom for a bit longer.
> If you do, you would see that (a) the Internet 2 is little more than a figment
> of several companie's imaginations, (b) the Internet 2 really wouldn't change
> much of anything even if it where implemented, and (c) what sort of user
> interface would you suggest? Direct neural connection?
Um, actually, Internet2 is alive and well. It's got nothing to do with
business, though: it's funded (as was the original NSF that spawned the
Internet) by the US Gov't and Universities.
Although it will be addressing important concerns for this Internet
(like quality of service and IPv6 compatibility), nothing planned has a
thing to do with whether a microkernel is better than a monolithic
kernel. (Especially since loadable modules blur away some of the
advantages of microkernels.)
See http://www.internet2.{org|edu}/ for details about Internet2.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: "Apelsin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Special!
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:52:39 +0400
Special!
http://www.chat.ru/~saturn7/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: chroot with ftp
Date: 9 Jul 1999 03:59:10 GMT
I have been reading up on the 'ftpd' man page, which documents the
spiffo '-r' flag:
The -r option instructs the daemon to chroot(2) to the
specified rootdir immedeately upon loading. This can
improve system security by limiting the files which may be
damaged should a breakin occur through the daemon. Set is
much like anonymous FTP, with additional files needed
which vary from system to system.
What I am not clear on is how I go about having the '-r' for some
users, and no limitations for others (like myself). Is this something
I can drop in an ftp config file somewhere?
Dave Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Daniel Forester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: suse, RH...?
Date: 9 Jul 1999 04:20:40 GMT
Hi, all... Looking for some recommendations on Suse vs. Redhat, or any
others (Caldera, Debian...). Pretty sure I'm not quite ready for Slack,
but ya know. ;-) I'm relatively new to linux, but no dummie. I did
manage to (it looks like for now) totally screw my Redhat partition;
haven't dug into it much yet, but I was thinking of just formatting it and
putting on another distro. ;-) Hence, I'm looking for recommendations.
Any? Please respond via e-mail, if ya don't mind; I don't always get to
this group that often. Later....
--
Daniel E. Forester
Georgia Institute of Technology
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte061f/
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets
the cheese.
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From: Sultan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: !
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 00:10:11 -0400
no, wrong, do a
$>{#\/}
"H. Michael Smith, Jr." wrote:
> Gergo Barany wrote in message ...
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patric Mahoney wrote:
> >>!
> >
> >?
>
> #!*
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From: "Brett Stime (steamer25 at hotmail dot com)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Default permissions/ownership
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:13:47 -0500
Okay I've figured out how to use the umask command... Is there some way to
get *new* files to inherit ownership/permissions from the directory they are
created in? I have a secure FTP server and need to allow a group to access
all files uploaded from various clients without allowing the clients to
access eachother's files... The above would is currently the easiest
solution.
Thanks!
Brett
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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