Linux-Misc Digest #974, Volume #26 Tue, 30 Jan 01 19:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: rh7 bootdisk ? ("Keith Wheeler")
Re: I wish to RTFM, but where is TFM I need? (Bob Tennent)
Re: Large .jpg files ("Joshua Beard")
Re: RedHat's Linux 2.4 kernel package ? ("D. Michael Basinger")
Re: implementation of colored man pages (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Ziefle)
Re: CDROM detected at boot, can't mount (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: AVI joiner ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: smp on pc server 330? ("Steve Wolfe")
Re: Problem with Redhat 7 and XFree86-4.01 System freezes for no ("D. Stimits")
Re: Problem with Redhat 7 and XFree86-4.01 System freezes for no ("D. Stimits")
Re: Can Linux read Windows CD ? (Vladimir Annenkov)
Re: How to set KDE as default ? (Brian Goodyear)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
Elf major-minor shared library (jpg)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Steve Mading)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: copying /dev/* files (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Peter T. Breuer")
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From: "Keith Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: rh7 bootdisk ?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:27:35 -0700
Does /etc/lilo.conf have the keyword "Linear" on one line by itself? If so
delete it and rerun lilo. That will convert lilo over to use LBA32 mode.
Should fix your 1024 cylinder problem.
Good Luck,
KW
Beauford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> >I would suspect it is a 1024 cylinder problem, but RH7.0 has the latest
lilo.
>
> I have the latest Redhat (7.0) and still get the error above. Is their a
fix for this?
>
> Thanks
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: I wish to RTFM, but where is TFM I need?
Date: 30 Jan 2001 21:23:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 14:51:49 -0500, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
>PEERDNS is not in man pppd.
Have you tried using glimpse (assuming you have set up an index)? It's a kind
of global grep. Here's what I get for glimpse PEERDNS on a RedHat 6.2 system:
# glimpse PEERDNS
/usr/doc/initscripts-5.00/sysconfig.txt: PEERDNS=yes|no
/usr/doc/initscripts-5.00/sysconfig.txt: file if PEERDNS is not set to "no".
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post:
if [ "$PEERDNS" != "no" -o "$RESOLV_MODS" != "no" ]; then
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-ppp:
if [ "${PEERDNS}" != no ] ; then
/usr/doc/ppp-2.3.11/scripts/ip-up.local.add:
if [ -n "$USEPEERDNS" -a -f /etc/ppp/resolv.conf ]; then
/usr/doc/ppp-2.3.11/scripts/ip-down.local.add:
if [ -n "$USEPEERDNS" -a -f /etc/ppp/resolv.conf ]; then
Bob T.
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From: "Joshua Beard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Large .jpg files
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:53:40 -0600
Okay, I used Ghostview to view the picture and it turned out as a
picture, but a bit larger in physical size than the original. So I guess
the question is how can I get .jpg file to stop saving as Postscript?
Thanks again,
Josh.
> Joshua Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Okay, when I use the 'file' command on the bloated .jpg file it says the
>>following:
>>
>>file.jpg: PostScript document text conforming at level 3.0 - type EPS
>>
>>Weird. It's a 4 MB file compared to the 200 kb it should be. Josh.
>>
>
> Postscript? In that case, try running:
> ghostview file.jpg
>
> (assuming ghostview is installed...generic postscript file viewer :)
>
> Chris...
>
>
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From: "D. Michael Basinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat's Linux 2.4 kernel package ?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:44:36 -0500
When 2.2 came out, RedHat just upgraded the kernel and kernel related
software (initscript, etc...).
Mike
In article <ZPDc6.4212$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Arctic Storm"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> According to the RedHat web site, they will be releasing the official
> Linux
> 2.4 kernel package in a few weeks. Does anyone have information
> regarding
> this? Will this be an RPM? Will this be one of those "balloon"
> packages that will clean up all the RedHat 7 bugs, as well as upgrade
> the kernel?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Ziefle)
Subject: Re: implementation of colored man pages
Date: 30 Jan 2001 21:46:48 GMT
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 11:51:16 -0500, Steve Ackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>>How is the colorization of the man pages under Red Hat (and misc. other
>>distributions) done?
>>
>>The man pages themselves don't contain the formatting commands staticly.
>>So is there a modified version of man which parses and inserts the
>>colorization commands before sending the stuff to STDOUT/the pager?
> Do 'zcat /usr/man/man1/date.1.gz | less' (for instance) and see
>xif you still think there are no formatting commands in man pages.
I think you misunderstood me (good one if not :) ). I'd thought that it should
be clear from the context (-> colorization of the man pages) that I meant
_colorization commands_ within the source code of the man pages. Of course
there are roff commands in the man pages, BUT:
I recently compared man pages from Red Hat and a SuSE distribution, and they
were identical, also the Red Hat ones were colored and SuSE's not.
So once again, my question is: How are the man pages under Red Hat colorized?
--
J�rg Ziefle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: CDROM detected at boot, can't mount
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 20:59:53 GMT
GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In article <956uh2$d9m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> CDROM drive ... detected (in /var/log/dmesg as dev/hdc) but can't
>> be mounted (mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom)
Maybe you're simply missing the link to /dev/cdrom.
>Try using
> mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
Right.
>> The CDROM drive is ... on the 2nd IDE channel
>Strange. Then it should be /dev/hdb.
?? What have you been drinking? /dev/hdb would be the SLAVE drive
on the primary IDE port.
Michael
--
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Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AVI joiner
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:05:55 -0700
> Anyone know of a good.....or even bad
> utility for combining avi's.
> Tried cat, it joins the files but
> aviplay only reads the first file
> put into the combined file.
The only utilities I've seen were for Windows, and they were TRULY bad.
They would decompress every scene in the AVI's, and write them all to disk
as .bmp files, then turn around and compress all of those. Nothing like
doing your lossy compression several times over. ; (
steve
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: smp on pc server 330?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:07:04 -0700
> I'm trying to get smp support to work with linux on an IBM PC Server 330.
> This server has 2 PPro 200's.
>
> When I install the RPM for Redhat 7 and change the lilo.conf to point to
the
> new smp kernel, I get a kernel panic on reboot (at the VFS part where it's
> trying to mount root).
>
> I tried Mandrake too, but it does not automatically load the smp support
for
> my machine. Is there something special I'm supposed to do at install
time?
It doesn't sound like you have an SMP problem. It sounds like you've got
other things wrong with either the kernel modules you've chosen (not) to
compile in, or in the manner you're installing your kernel. Did you run
"lilo" after editing the lilo.conf?
steve
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:43:41 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Problem with Redhat 7 and XFree86-4.01 System freezes for no
Martin Schager wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I have a serious problem with my Redhat Linux Distribution (Version 7.0)
>
> When I run XFree-86, (it does not make any differnce if I use Gnome or
> KDE2),the entire system freezes. It woudl be "OK" If XFree-86 4.01 had a
> bug and crashed, but freezing the entire system is a catastrophy. I was
> running KDE2 and the Opera Web-Browser without any problem.
> For no particular reason (Screen was blank, because screensaver was
> activated), the system froze. (Suddenly no one using a PC in my internal
> home network was able to connect to the internet -> thats how I noticed
> that the system froze again).
>
> This happend several times in the past days.!!!!!!
> PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Otherwise I have to return to SUSE Linux 6.3 and XFree86 Version 3.x
> This worked fine (except for ocasional crashes of Netscape, which are
> normal)
>
> Thanks in advance
> Martin
If the screensaver is an opengl version, and you don't have opengl
properly installed (e.g., a software or hardware implementation like
mesa), this will happen whenever the screensaver starts. After the first
failure, depending on what is damaged on the harddrive due to the crash
killing data, it might have corrupted something on the disk that causes
it to fail more often than just the original problem would.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:43:41 -0700
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Problem with Redhat 7 and XFree86-4.01 System freezes for no
Martin Schager wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I have a serious problem with my Redhat Linux Distribution (Version 7.0)
>
> When I run XFree-86, (it does not make any differnce if I use Gnome or
> KDE2),the entire system freezes. It woudl be "OK" If XFree-86 4.01 had a
> bug and crashed, but freezing the entire system is a catastrophy. I was
> running KDE2 and the Opera Web-Browser without any problem.
> For no particular reason (Screen was blank, because screensaver was
> activated), the system froze. (Suddenly no one using a PC in my internal
> home network was able to connect to the internet -> thats how I noticed
> that the system froze again).
>
> This happend several times in the past days.!!!!!!
> PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Otherwise I have to return to SUSE Linux 6.3 and XFree86 Version 3.x
> This worked fine (except for ocasional crashes of Netscape, which are
> normal)
>
> Thanks in advance
> Martin
If the screensaver is an opengl version, and you don't have opengl
properly installed (e.g., a software or hardware implementation like
mesa), this will happen whenever the screensaver starts. After the first
failure, depending on what is damaged on the harddrive due to the crash
killing data, it might have corrupted something on the disk that causes
it to fail more often than just the original problem would.
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From: Vladimir Annenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux read Windows CD ?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 16:56:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You've probably created your CD with Microsoft's Joliet extensions.
You need to rebuild your kernel with support for Joliet.
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 05:17:33 GMT, Arctic Storm
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I created a data CD in Windows.
>I put XFree86 4.0.2, KDE 2.0.1, and a few other stuff on it.
>Linux won't mount the CD.
>Can a data CD created in Windows be read in Linux?
>By the way, the Linux files were downloaded while in Win2K.
>-
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From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set KDE as default ?
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:03:48 -0500
S. Joel Bernstein wrote:
> Just a thought... look in your X configs and startup files - look for
> references to gdm, change to kdm =)
> rather inelegant....
>
> Joel
> "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message news:POkd6.163$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I have both GNOME & KDE.
> > > GNOME is set as default for login, which is launched automatically at
> > > boot. How do you set KDE as the default login?
> >
> > I have RedHat 7, and originally had GNOME, only. I installed KDE 2.0.1
> > today, and I like it, but the default login is still GNOME. It give me
> > an option to choose KDE, but I would like KDE as default.
> >
>
>
Open the KDE Control Center/System/Login Manager and change the order there.
--
Thanks,
Brian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 30 Jan 2001 22:50:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: why is having a guy as President that actually has a universal set of
: morals such a bad thing?
I dunno - what does that statement have to do with George W?
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 30 Jan 2001 23:06:41 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Brian V. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <94ssr1$ae9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
: |> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: |> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:
: |>
: |> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: |> >>
: |> >> > Maybe there's a good reason for literacy tests after all.
: |> >>
: |> >> Perhaps. But ill put my verbal SAT score up against yours or anyone
: |> >> elses, any time.
: |>
: |> > You mean << I'll >> and << else's >>? ;)
: |>
: |> No, I meant exactly what I typed. See dejanews for my multiple arguments
: |> for the granular use of capitals and contractions in informal prose.
: Oh, that's *really* authoritative. It's pretty sad how lazy people have become
: or ignorant of correct grammer when it comes to "prose".
Chosing to deliberately disobey a grammer rule is not always a
case of laziness or ignorance. I chose to not use the standard
American English method of quotation because it is illogical.
Consider this sentence:
Standard way: "I went home," Bob said.
More Logical way #1: "I went home", Bob said
More Logical way #2: "I went home" Bob said
More Logical way #3: "I went home." Bob said
The standard way is illogical because the comma is there as an
artifact of the process of putting the quotation into the sentence,
and NOT a part of what Bob actually said - therefore it makes no
sense to put it inside the quotation marks. If it's there at
all, it belongs outside what was actually quoted of Bob (logical
way #1). It could also be argued that it is redundant since the
quote marks already tell you where the quote ends and the pause
should go, and therefore there is no need for the comma (logical
way #2). It could also be argued that since what Bob said was
a complete sentence unto itself, that it needs a period (logical
way #3). But the standard way is completely arbitrary nonsense.
I see no problem with deliberately seeking to change the grammar
rules when they make no sense.
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From: jpg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Elf major-minor shared library
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 23:16:15 GMT
I don't understand very well the mans, FAQ's and HOWTOs about
elf shared libraries, especially the use of major and minor
numbers during shared library upgrading.
What I want :
Suppose I have created a shared library libmylib.so
containing two functions myf1() and myf2() obtained
from sources myf1src.c and myf2src.c by the commands
cc -c i-fPIC -DPIC myf1src.c myf2src.c
ld mysrc.o -shared -lc -o libmylib.so
A main program myf1f2.c using this two functions,
compiled with
cc -s -L./ -lmylib myf1f2.c -o myf1f2
works fine if the env variable LD_LIBRARY_PATH is
correctly set.
Now, suppose I have to modify the function myf2() in
libmylib.so, suppose I have no more the source of myf1()
neither the one of myf1f2, and that I want conserve the
first libmylib.so.
I have tried numerous options during ld like soname,
rpath and so on, renamed and linked the libraries, as
in the following, but nothing works, except if I setenv
LD_PRELOAD with the second library.
But the use of LD_PRELOAD has nothing to do with one
unique library and majors and minors versions and it isn't
what I have in mind.
=========================================================
#!/bin/csh
rm -f lib*
#first
cc -c -fPIC -DPIC myf1src.c myf2src.c
ld myf1src.o myf2src.o -shared -lc -o libmylib.so.1
ln -s libmylib.so.1 libmylib.so
setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./
cc -L./ -lmylib myf1f2.c -o myf1f2
./myf1f2 #works ok
#second
cc -c -fPIC -DPIC myf22src.c
ld myf22src.o -shared -soname libmylib.so.1 -o libmylib.so.2
ln -sf libmylib.so.2 libmylib.so
./myf1f2 #don't find myf1, why ?
#third
ln -sf libmylib.so.1 libmylib.so
setenv LD_PRELOAD libmylib.so.2
./myf1f2 #works ok with second myf2,
#but the libraries are independent
==========================================================
Can somebody explains me what to do ?
Thanks in advance.
JP
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 30 Jan 2001 23:12:27 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: yeah <sarcasm> what a horrid idea to actually believe in God huh? <sarcasm>
: Considering the US was founded on Christian beliefs I find this normal
: and hopeful that people might actually have a set of morals not based on
: their own ideology (which would be inherently imperfect given we are human).
That's the lamest argument for god-based morality ever. If you start
from the premise that human judgement is imperfect and therefore bad
to base your moral system on, then *all* moral systems are equally
flawed. Even if you use a religious system you had to use your human
judgement in the first place to come to the conclusion that you should
use the religious system.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 30 Jan 2001 23:17:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Steve Ackman wrote:
:>
:> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:11:37 GMT, J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> >John Hasler wrote:
:> >
:> >> Edward Rosten writes:
:> >> > Christian morals were also invented by people.
:> >>
:> >> And the US was _not_ founded on "Christian beliefs".
:> >
:> >You're splitting hairs -
:> >
:> >There was a strong deist influence, at the very least.
:>
:> Jefferson was a Deist, yet was branded an Atheist by his
:> Christian detractors. Deism is a far cry from Christianity.
:>
: Deism is a belief in the existance of God.
One that has nothing to do with Christianity. Which is kind of
important considering what this subthread is about.
: Atheism is a belief in the non-existance of God.
No it isn't. It's the lack of the belief that god does exist.
To call this a belief rather than simple default skepticism is
to assume that god existing is the default, which is circular.
: Obviously, Jefferson's detractors were lying.
Yes, they were. Many Christians assume everyone who isn't one
of them is an atheist. But what Jefferson was isn't relevant
here, what matters is that he wasn't Christian.
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 17:39:54 -0600
"Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:957i20$h7q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> : Deism is a belief in the existance of God.
>
> One that has nothing to do with Christianity. Which is kind of
> important considering what this subthread is about.
By that token, Judaism isn't welcome in this country either, which is
ridiculous.
> : Atheism is a belief in the non-existance of God.
>
> No it isn't. It's the lack of the belief that god does exist.
> To call this a belief rather than simple default skepticism is
> to assume that god existing is the default, which is circular.
No, Atheism is the believe that god doesn't exist. Agnosticism is the lack
of a belief in god.
Atheism is active disbelief, Agnisticism is skepticism about the belief.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: copying /dev/* files
Date: 30 Jan 2001 18:41:30 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Patrick Machado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: The problem arises when I atempt to copy the files located in /dev.
>: Does anybody know how to copy this special files to another dir?
>
>You can not copy "/dev/files". They are not files.
>
>See "man mknod".
>
>Also see "/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt".
yes you can, and it gives the desired results
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: 30 Jan 2001 18:51:15 -0500
In article <955k14$35j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tony Neville wrote:
> ...
>Was the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness a sentiment to
>be found in Humanism in those days? If so, Humanism then as NO
>resemblance to Humanism today with its embracing of Marxist theory
>swamped in political correctness in the form of muliculturalism, moral
>relativism, deconstructionism, and social engineering, its vilification of
>anything Western and its fawning praise of primitive tribal cultures,
>its cynicism and nihilism. Humanism is brain dead.
if anything id braindead, it is this decription of humanism
> ...
hs
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:50:14 -0500
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ]Nick Condon wrote:
> ]>
> ]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harlan Grove) wrote in <94si7f$7nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> ]>
> ]> >Absolutely true. It's how we define 'freedom'. For those in the US of
> ]> >Libertarian bent, Microsoft can do what it wants to within certain
> ]> >legal bounds (which it's overstepped, IMO).
> ]>
> ]> Microsoft has a centrally planned, state granted, exclusive monopoly.
> ]> That's not very libertarian.
>
> ]No, it's not "state granted" If it was, they wouldn't have been
> ]CONVICTED of criminal conduct in Federal Court.
>
> It is state granted. That is precisely what patents and copyright are--
> state granted monopolies. It used to be that there was a trade off--
> they were granted only if they were published clearly for anyone to
> read. Now adays you can copyright and trade secret at the same time. Ie
> copyright in many situations has become simply a centrally planned,
> state granted monopoly to allow friends of the government to make money.
>
> That that same company could also engage in practices which contraven
> other laws, or that different branches of the government could work at
> cross purposes is hardly surprising. Lets see how Bush handles the
> Microsoft case.
When did ANY government grant Micro$oft a monopoly for Intel-based
hardware?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 00:48:04 +0100
In comp.os.linux.misc Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Consider this sentence:
> Standard way: "I went home," Bob said.
> More Logical way #1: "I went home", Bob said
> More Logical way #2: "I went home" Bob said
> More Logical way #3: "I went home." Bob said
> The standard way is illogical because the comma is there as an
It is not the standard way. It is a typesetting convention that dates
from the times when types were awkward sizes and so ", looked
wrong (large space before comma with small wavy thing up top).
Nowadays you can use any convention - provided you do so consistently.
Different houses and series use different styles. I see nothing wrong
with any of your examples.
Peter
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