Linux-Misc Digest #974, Volume #24               Wed, 28 Jun 00 12:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Need clarification:  what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'? (Rod Smith)
  Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (Richard Steiner)
  How can I get a return value from a process ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: linux swap partition? (John Thompson)
  date formatting problem: doesn't work ?
  Lilo: Signature not found (Thomas Meinders)
  Re: Using the mouse scrollwheel (kc)
  Re: Requirements for writing an operating system... (Martin Herrman)
  Re: linux swap partition? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (Matthew Matchura)
  COBOL for Linux ("Ron TJ HUANG")
  Re: Full System Restore (Brian Helm)
  Re: Full System Restore (Brian Helm)
  Starting Linux without LILO ("Kurt Anneborg")
  Re: Starting Linux without LILO (Thomas Meinders)
  Re: COBOL for Linux (Thomas Meinders)
  Need a small C program ("Gerald J. Puhl")
  Re: How can I get a return value from a process ? (Paul Kimoto)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:27:29 GMT

On Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:10:10 GMT, "Daniel Klimkowski"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I need to know if there is a port of Windows media player to Linux or
>anything that emulates it.  I'm wanting it so that I can stream audio from
>online radio stations and most of them require Windows Media Player.

You apparently haven't read the responses to your previous post of
this question.

Short answer: No, there is no port of "Windows Media Player".
Microsoft has not (and probably will not) port this commercial product
to the Linux environment.

However, there are Linux packages that provide similar or identical
functionality. You have been referred to some of them.



Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

([EMAIL PROTECTED])


(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Need clarification:  what really is 'MBR' and what is 'BOOT SECTOR'?
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:14:37 GMT

In article <D%f65.7711$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Charlie Root" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I don't have hard time explaining MBR and boot sector to newbies but NT
> folks sez MBR is also boot sector.  Can you fellah Linux folks explain to
> the NT people what is MBR from boot sector?  Btw, this is not advocacy
> group, so no ranting please.

MBR = Master Boot Record. It's an area at the very start of the
physical hard disk, which contains the very first bit of code that a
computer runs from the hard disk, as well as the description of the
layout of the primary and extended partitions (up to four of them).

A boot sector is the first sector of a drive -- normally the first
sector of a floppy disk or of a PARTITION on a hard disk. In the latter
case, it contains code that's loaded by the MBR during the booting of
the computer, assuming the partition is the one being booted.

In some sense, the MBR is a boot sector, but the term "boot sector"
usually isn't applied to the MBR.

FWIW, I cover these matters in more detail in my book, _The Multi-Boot
Configuration Handbook_ (http://www.rodsbooks.com/multiboot/).

-- 
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:29:16 GMT

Here in alt.os.linux, Hendrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:

>1. vi      ---  Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...

Most folks I know pronouce it "vee-eye".  Or "vim".  :-)

>2. GNU     ---  Is it spelled out, or pronounced "New"...

Guh-new.

>3. Linux   ---  Leee-nucks, Len-nucks, or Lie-nucks(How does Linus say
>it?)..

Most folks I know pronounce it "Lih-nuks", but "lye-nuks" is another
I've also heard.

>4. SQL     ---  Is it spelled out, or pronounced "Sequel".. I've heard
>both..

So have I.

>5. Daemon  ---  Is it demon, or daymon...

Us old AD&D'ers use "daymon", but I've heard both.

>6. TCL     ---  I've heard it called Tickle...???*s*

TCL/TK is "tickle tee-kay".

>7. pico    ---  Is it pee-co or pie-co...??? (Hey, I've used it
>too)...*s*

Pee-coh.

>In addition, could someone please enlighten me on the following
>"simple-natured" questions...???
>
>1. Why is Unix-based systems referred to as *nix based systems when
>linux and various other versions end in "ux"...???

Technically one should probably say *n[iu]x systems, but that's more of
a bother to type.  :-)

>2. Is FreeBSD linux or not...???

No!  FreeBSD is a BSD 2.2 derivative.  Similar to Linux in some ways,
but with a very different history.  For detaile information, check this
site out:

  http://www.freebsd.org

>3. Does the POSIX standard dictate the directory structure of *nix based
>systems (usr, home, bin, etc, var et cetera...)...???

I don't believe so.

>4. Does the sysvinit program install the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
>when it is installed itself...???  I know the 'init' process activates
>and respawns these programs, but is the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
>part of the sysvinit distribution...???

I dunno.  :-)

>5. Does anyone but me use 'pico'...???*smile*  Getting used to 'vi' is
>just killing me...!!!*s*

I'm an old OS/2 user -- I use FTE everywhere:

  http://fte.sourceforge.net/

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
     OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS
      + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                  The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How can I get a return value from a process ?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:22:02 GMT

Hi,

I'd like to get a return value from a process and test it. How can I do
this with a shell script (I use sh 'cause I'd like to port it on sunos).
Thanks in advance
David


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Before you buy.

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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux swap partition?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:30:02 -0500

Keith wrote:
 
> Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the linux
> swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux partition on
> your hard drive just for virtual memory. I have 128MB of RAM in my PC--what
> would happen if I installed linux without this swap partition. If it matters
> any, I've pretty much narrowed down my linux choices to either CorelLinux or
> Mandrake (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that "linux
> ext2 file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can recognize
> the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?--Does this mean that I can also
> install linux to a partition using FAT32? Help would be appreciated. Thanks.

A swap partition is not strictly necessary, but a good idea
nonetheless.  You could use a swap file instead of a swap
partiton, but these tend to be slower as linux must access the
swap file through the filesystem, which is not as direct as when
you use a swap partition.

The umdos filesystem will allow you to install linux to FAT16 or
FAT32 partitions, but why bother?  The "fips.exe" program that
comes with linux will non-destructively resize your FAT
partition(s) to make room for an ext2 partition for linux.  Ext2
is so much nicer than FAT of any flavor that there's really no
reason to install linux to a FAT partition.

-- 

-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: date formatting problem: doesn't work ?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:29:31 -0400

hello, Using rh 6.0.

the following works from a command prompt.

$ date '+%b %_d'
Jun  2    ( that's JUN space space 2 )

whereas,

in a shell script ( bash ),
TODAY=$(/bin/date '+%b %_d')
echo $TODAY

produces

Jun 2 ( that's JUN space 2 )

Why ?

I need to get the two spaces if the day is a single digit, just like what's
there when ls -l lists them .

This is so that I can do " ls -al | grep $TODAY > todays_files"

I can redirect the output of date to a file. but when I cat the contents
into the variable TODAY and echo it out, it's loosing the second space.
What am I missing here ?
Agreed : It would take me all of half an hour to pound out something to take
care of this ( and deleting files that start with "-" ) from C, but that
seems like re-inventing the wheel .

So could anyone tell me what I am missing ?

joseph




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From: Thomas Meinders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Lilo: Signature not found
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:43:13 +0200

I desperatly need some advance of somebody who has a good knowledge about SCSI systems.

I have a running SCSI Adaptec 7880 UW onboard system running under LINUX. Now I want
to connect an external SCSI device. The problem is, that it is not a simple SCSI 
device,
it's an oscilloscope form Yokogawa with an internal SCSI bus and harddrive. I was
quite surprised that this is supposed to work with two host adapters in one bus, but
that's a least what the company was telling me. Well, when I connect the oscilloscope
to my computer the Adaptec setup finds the external SCSI harddrive - fine. The weird
problems start though when booting with LILO. The kernel boots, but then stops with the
message "Signature not found". I have to add that in the current SCSI settings I've 
chosen
SCSI parity checking -disabled-. If I choose -enabled- I don't get the Lilo prompt. 
Instead
I do get L000100001000....continuing messages over the screen.

As far as I understood so far this error messages of LILO are due to wrong settings in 
the
geometry of the harddrives. Can anybody here explain me how the addition of an external
SCSI device can cause these problems? I obviously have only limited knowlege about SCSI
systems.

Thanks you for your help!

    Thomas


--
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Pfaffenwaldring 9, D-70550 Stuttgart, phone: (+49) 711-685-6821, fax -6400
privat: Friesenstr. 20, 71065 Sindelfingen, (+49) 7031-871831
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From: kc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using the mouse scrollwheel
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:31:26 -0600

Yes, its possible.

This page hasn't been updated in a while, but it still is worth a visit:
http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/

You may also want to take a look at imwheel
http://jcatki.dhs.org/imwheel/


In article <8jcif4$a00$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bart van Hest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Is it possible to use the mouse scrollwheel in Linux? Mapping it to PgUp and
> PgDn would be sufficient....
> 
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bart van Hest Software/Hardware engineer Arcobel ASIC Design Centre
> 
> E-mail:                         [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personal homepage:  
> http://dabit.trybit.com
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Requirements for writing an operating system...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jun 2000 14:58:36 GMT

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "-" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Hi There
> 
> I am a linux newbie and I am very much fascinated with the Linux
>  Kernel. And
> Linus Torvalds is a role model for me because I too want to write my
>  own OS
> one day.
> 
> I am still in school and I know quite a lot of stuff in computers but
>  I am
> just curious about what are the requirements in order to write an OS.
>  Can
> anyone out there advise me please? Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Buy yourself a good book about OS concepts. I bought:

Operating System Concepts, fifth edition, written by Silberschatz and Galvin.
John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ISBN: 0-471-36414-2

it is a nice book for the beginner, and is easy to read.

good luck and maybe I will use your OS one day ;-)

Martin

> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
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Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
4:50pm up 15 days, 6:15, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.05, 0.15
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!

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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux swap partition?
Date: 28 Jun 2000 10:48:34 -0400

"Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, I'm thinking of installing linux and I had a question about the linux
> swap partition. Is it absolutely necessary to have a 2nd linux partition on
> your hard drive just for virtual memory.

no, but it makes a lot sense to have one anyhow.

1) hard disk costs about $0.01 per megabyte (10GB goes for about
   $100).  128MB will set you back at most $2.  you can't even buy
   lunch for this kind of chump change.  don't worry about it.  while
   non-trivial to set up, it's even possible to share swap space
   between a microsoft system and linux.  there a howto about it
   somewhere.

2) there are two kinds of swap usage:

   a) dormant program storage.  if you have some program launched but
      it's not doing anything, why have it take up memory?  disk is
      *much* cheaper than memory.

   b) virtual memory.  this is where an actively program uses disk as
      memory.  if you are doing this a lot this is a bad usage of
      swap.  disk is *much* slower than core memory.  still, swapping
      to disk is a hell of a lot better than crashing.  linux hates
      running out of memory.

> I have 128MB of RAM in my PC--what would happen if I installed linux
> without this swap partition.

you'd lose the benefit of swap, waste ram and hence money.  it also
sacrifices stability.

> If it matters any, I've pretty much
> narrowed down my linux choices to either CorelLinux or Mandrake
> (suggestions?). BTW, I can only install linux using that "linux ext2
> file format," right? I think I read somewhere that linux can
> recognize the FAT or FAT32 file format--is this true?

yes, it can.  but you don't want to use FAT more than you absolutely
have to, i.e., communicating to your windows setup.

> --Does this
> mean that I can also install linux to a partition using FAT32?

you can but FAT32 doesn't offer all the features linux needs in a
filesystem (long file names[1], permissions).  the various kludges to
overcome these deficiencies make for a very slow system.  besides, FAT
is an awful filesystem.  it suffers from fragmentation and is fragile.
you really really really want to use a native linux system like ext2.

> Help
> would be appreciated. Thanks.

if you are afraid of repartitioning, spend $100 and get a 10GB hardisk
dedicated to linux.

[1] FAT32 really only has 8.3 filenames but MICROS~1 has their own set
of kludges to fake long file names so this may not be as obvious to a
user.

-- 
johan kullstam l72t00052

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From: Matthew Matchura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 08:14:27 -0700

"Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, Hendrix wrote:
> 
> [ snip of entire post ]
> 
>    People in this thread have asserted that thier pronunciation is
> 'correct' ( although often with smileys ).  The definitive source
> for all of this hooey is, of course, the jargon file.  The jargon
> file is, I believe, maintained by Eric S. Raymond, and is available
> for perusal at the following URL:
> 
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html
> 
>   The current version, to my knowledge is 4.2.0.  The reason I am
> pointing this out now, is because there has been many a flame over
> the pronunciation of Linux, or daemon.  In fact, most of the
> dialects you will hear are 'correct'.  So have fun with it
> and pronounce it how you will, as long as people understand you,
> your golden.
> 
> anm
> --
> /*-------------------------------------------------------.
> | Andrew N. McGuire                                      |
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]                              |
> `-------------------------------------------------------*/


Precisely!!!

-- 
Matt M

>^..^<

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From: "Ron TJ HUANG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: COBOL for Linux
Date: 28 Jun 2000 15:30:54 GMT

Is there a COBOL compiler for Linux??

Ron.



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From: Brian Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Full System Restore
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:30:10 GMT

I am having a problem with the boot floppy that is created when the 
initial installation is performed.  This so-called "boot" floppy does 
nothing more than search for the necessary files/shared libraries off the 
hard drive.  When it tries to find them (and it cannot because of the 
incomplete restore) it hacks up another fur ball and freezes the system.

Also, I cannot find any reference to the creation of the "rescue" floppy.

I would love to be able to generate the necessary environment on floppy to 
create the escential utilities enabling me to perform the steps you have 
outlined.  Would you go into more detail as the documentation included 
with Linux-Mandrake is extremely vauge.

Thank you 
 
Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:30:03 GMT, Brian Helm 
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >I performed a full system backup using 'tar' and backed up every thing 
> >from '/' on down.  I went to perform a full system restore using the 
same 
> >tape and the system totally froze up when attempting to restore 
> >the /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 files.
> >
> >Is there a way to boot and run a kernal that will not utilize any 
> >libraries on the hard drive so that I can complete my full system 
restore?
> 
> This is what root/boot disks are for.  If your system gets completely
> screwed over, you boot from something like Tom's ( http://toms.net/rb/
> ) mount the root partition under /mnt and create any mountpoints if you
> need to, then mount the other partitions under /mnt/usr, /mnt/home,
> etc.  Then you cd /mnt and tar xf /dev/st0 ... the full backup you 
created
> will unstuff itself into /mnt as if /mnt were /, while the libraries you
> need for tar's operation are safe under / .
> 
> Overwriting /lib/libc and /lib/ld.so while the system is running is Not
> Considered Safe, since every dynamically linked user-space program 
depends
> on those.  You can also get around this problem by playing games with
> chroot, but that can backfire severely if you don't know what you're
> doing.
> 
> Also, tar does not preserve absolute sector positions on disk.  To get 
the
> system to boot from the hard drive once again, you'll have to re-run LILO
> once you've made the full backup.  There are certain programs that can
> make the whole process a lot easier--BRU is one, but it's payware.  
amanda
> and cpio have their partisans too.  HTH,
> 
> -- 
> Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at 
the face
> \----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children 
and still
>  \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David 
Zindell "So did
> But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" -
-/me


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From: Brian Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Full System Restore
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:30:12 GMT

I am having a problem with the boot floppy that is created when the 
initial installation is performed.  This so-called "boot" floppy does 
nothing more than search for the necessary files/shared libraries off the 
hard drive.  When it tries to find them (and it cannot because of the 
incomplete restore) it hacks up another fur ball and freezes the system.

Also, I cannot find any reference to the creation of the "rescue" floppy.

I would love to be able to generate the necessary environment on floppy to 
create the escential utilities enabling me to perform the steps you have 
outlined.  Would you go into more detail as the documentation included 
with Linux-Mandrake is extremely vauge.

Thank you 

Robert Heller wrote:
> 
> 
>   Brian Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   In a message on Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:30:03 GMT, wrote :
> 
> BH> I performed a full system backup using 'tar' and backed up every 
thing 
> BH> from '/' on down.  I went to perform a full system restore using the 
same 
> BH> tape and the system totally froze up when attempting to restore 
> BH> the /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 files.
> BH> 
> BH> Is there a way to boot and run a kernal that will not utilize any 
> BH> libraries on the hard drive so that I can complete my full system 
restore?
> BH> 
> BH> What happens if a hard drive totally crashes?  Must you first 
install the 
> BH> OS from the CD-ROM and restore selected file systems? 
> BH> 
> BH> Doesn't make any sense.  What is the point of backing up the full 
system 
> BH> then.
> BH> 
> BH> Help!!!!! 
> 
> You can't restore certain files *on a running system*.  Specifically
> stuff line /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2, as well as various
> other shared libraries.
> 
> Now, it is quite possible to create a 'tiny' Linux system that fits
> entirely on one (or two) floppies.  That is you create a boot and root
> floppy, specifically designed to restore a full backup in the event of
> a total hard drive crash.  The rescue floppy needs to have the modules
> for your tape drive (SCSI conrtoller, sd.o, st.o, or whatever), tar,
> mkswap, mke2fs, and fdisk, and whatever shared libraries they need (or
> better a *staticly* linked version of tar, mkswap, mke2fs, and fdisk).
> 
> You have to be sure that the backup is relative (which is what tar will
> do by default).  You install a replacement drive.  Boot you boot/rescue
> floppy set.  Typically set up to run in single user mode with a root
> bash prompt.  You use fdisk (on the floppy) to set up the partitions,
> use mkswap to initialize your swap partition and use swapon to connect
> it up (this is optional, but not a bad idea). Then use mke2fs to format
> the file systems, mount the root under /mnt (or a sub-directory there or
> under /tmp or someplace), make the mount points for the other
> filesystems and mount them.  Now you fire up tar:
> 
> tar xvf /dev/st0 -C /mnt
> 
> Adjust the -C parameter to match where the new disk was mounted.
> 
> Reboot with a boot floppy into single user mode (root == new hard disk
> root).
> 
> Run lilo to restore the MBR and presto! restore complete.
> 
> Note: many new systems are being shipped with Zip drives.  It should be
> quite easy (given a whole 100 or 250 meg) to 'install' a mini working
> Linux system on a a Zip cart.  There might be issues as to whether you
> can boot directly from the Zip cart (BIOS stupidity) , but you can
> always create a 'normal' boot floppy and specifiy root=/dev/<zip drive
> root partition>. Yes, fdisk is quite happy to re-partition a Zip drive
> and mke2fs is also quite happy to make an Ext2 file sustem (or several
> Ext2 file sustems) on a floppy.  I've not tried it, but I expect that
> mkswap can make a swap partition there too.  It *should* be possible to
> even create a boot floppy that loads the ppa driver, so you can do this
> with a parallel port Zip drive.
> 
> BH> 
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From: "Kurt Anneborg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Starting Linux without LILO
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:25:54 +0200

Hello!
Is it possible to start Linux in Linux/NT computer without
using LILO thus i.e. set starting conditions in MBR from NT.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Thomas Meinders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting Linux without LILO
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:48:42 +0200

Try this link:
http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jrc/windows/winnt/dualboot.html

Kurt Anneborg wrote:

> Hello!
> Is it possible to start Linux in Linux/NT computer without
> using LILO thus i.e. set starting conditions in MBR from NT.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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--
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Pfaffenwaldring 9, D-70550 Stuttgart, phone: (+49) 711-685-6821, fax -6400
privat: Friesenstr. 20, 71065 Sindelfingen, (+49) 7031-871831
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From: Thomas Meinders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COBOL for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:52:29 +0200

Try this:

http://bitcon.linux.tucows.com/conhtml/dev_languages_cobol.html

Ron TJ HUANG wrote:

> Is there a COBOL compiler for Linux??
>
> Ron.

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Pfaffenwaldring 9, D-70550 Stuttgart, phone: (+49) 711-685-6821, fax -6400
privat: Friesenstr. 20, 71065 Sindelfingen, (+49) 7031-871831
http://www.thomas-meinders.de




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From: "Gerald J. Puhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Need a small C program
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:58:53 -0500

To any who can help:

I am in need of a C program Windows 95/NT4.0 that will simply open
socket and connect to another machine on a port number.  I am an
experienced C programmer on Linux, but I am having trouble learning
Borland C++ (just don't have the time).  This app will be executed to
initiate my Linux server to do some file system tasks via inetd.  I can
fill in the machine name and port number needed.  BTW I am using Borland
5.02 C/C++.  I feel stupid since I can't get a simple program like this
together, but, I don't have much experience with Windows machines.  If
you can help please email me direct.

Thanx!

Gary P.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: How can I get a return value from a process ?
Date: 28 Jun 2000 11:59:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8jd1ll$aiu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'd like to get a return value from a process and test it. How can I do
> this with a shell script (I use sh 'cause I'd like to port it on sunos).

You look at the $? variable just after running the process:

$ true
$ echo $?
0
$ false
$ echo $?
1

-- 
Paul Kimoto

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