Linux-Misc Digest #43, Volume #20 Mon, 3 May 99 17:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Change Linux filesystem to Win98 ("news.nationwide.net")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Matt Denton)
Re: Who's knocking at my door? (Jeff Japes)
Re: Mac-emulation on Linux? (Louis Kowolowski)
Caldera 2.2 "Unofficial" CD? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Chris Mikkelson)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
HELP! Linux frame types ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Help! Null modem and pppd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Ed Avis)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Darrell Sydlo)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Andrew Carol)
Re: ssh for redhat 6.0 ("David L. Earle, Sr.")
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Chris
Mikkelson)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Chris Costello)
Re: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs??? (Mark Greene)
Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really) (Chris Costello)
Re: DVD movies on Linux ? (Dave Philips)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism,alt.society.liberalism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:15:44 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Loren Petrich wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > The GPL is a crock. It forces openness. That's not freedom.
>>
>> The way that anti-slavery laws make one not free to own slaves?
> Totally different. There is absolutely nothing wrong with
>proprietary software.
However, there _is_ something wrong with proprietary software that uses
code written by someone who explicitly asked for said code not to be used
in proprietary software.
You are free to write all the proprietary software you want, and to keep
it all to yourself. But if that's what you have in mind, then you cannot
use any GPLed code in your software, because the people who wrote that code
have a different attitude from you. And you really should respect their
right to do whatever they want with their (intellectual) property.
Bernie
--
============================================================================
"It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...
...let's go exploring"
Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
------------------------------
From: "news.nationwide.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Change Linux filesystem to Win98
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:30:44 -0500
I just moved my Linux to another, more powerful, machine. I did a fresh
install and all is working fine. However, the old machine is needed for a
Win95 workstation. I'm unable to delete/remove the Linux filesystem
information
using 'fdisk'. A logical drive is not defined, but 'fdisk' thinks it is and
therefore won't delete the partition.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Mark
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:04:04 -0700
On Mon, 03 May 1999 11:38:09 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Formal
>> copyright protection doesn't really buy that much. People still
>> see an making extra copy of appfoo as a near zero cost process
>> and intuitively devalue that software and pirate away.
>
>I don't see us going to dongles so much as Intel developing a hardware
>"uber dongle" which will live on the PC board or even in the CPU. It
>would hold licence information etc.
>
>With billions at stake, we should not underestimate what they would do
>to stop the loss of revenue from the loss of copyrights.
They seem to want to do that anyways. They want to get as much
money out of us with as little effort as possible. Of course,
customers want the reverse to happen.
>
>Oh well...
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Denton)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:04:51 -0700
In article <7gjd3s$cdo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "FM"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Buy a Macintosh and dual boot with Linux/MacOS
This is probably the best option - LinuxPPC is pretty solid, MKlinux
(easier to install?) is a bit sluggish as it runs on top of a Mach
microkernel instead of natively but is a decent port of Linux nonetheless.
Me, I'm looking forward to Sheepshaver (http://www.sheepshaver.com) MacOS
VM for Linux to see how that works...
--
Matt Denton
San Francisco, USA
------------------------------
From: Jeff Japes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who's knocking at my door?
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 04:08:18 +0100
Adrian Silveanu wrote:
>
> Does anybody know of a program for Linux or if it comes with
> Linux that would tell me the IP address of any computer that
> tries to ping, ftp, telnet, etc. my computer?
> The reason that I ask is because I have noticed activity
> on my network card LED indicator and could not find a process/program
> that would explain the activity. I am certain that it wasn't
> Netscape checking my e-mail.
Adrian,
i use "iplog" downloadable from
http://www.ojnk.org/~eric/iplog-1.7.tar.gz
It can log tcp icmp and udp traffic to your machine, and is very
informative.. all those hack attempts you wouldn't usually see ;)
Regards,
J
--
Jeff Japes
http://www.wylm.demon.co.uk/
SPAM TRAP: "nospam" should be "wylm" to reply.
------------------------------
From: Louis Kowolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: Re: Mac-emulation on Linux?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:38:48 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Where can you get the LinuxDisks extension?
> Its website seems to be down.
> http://w3.teaser.fr/~mpollet/LinuxDisks/
>
> Greg
http://www.penguinpowered.com/~louisk
check the macutils section
L
--
"One world, one web, one program" -- Microsoft Promo Ad.
"Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer" -- Adolf Hitler
Eunuchs, the non-gender-specific OS
In Germany's Black Forest:
It is strickly forbidden on our Black Forest camping site
that people of different sex, for instance, men & women,
live together in one tent unless they are married for that
purpose.
>Hi! I'm the signature virus 99! Copy me into your signature and join the
fun!<
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera 2.2 "Unofficial" CD?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 19:27:30 GMT
Is (or will) the new Caldera 2.2 available on "unofficial" CD's? I've
checked several Linux CD venders and they only offer the 1.x versions
on unofficial CD's. Is it just that 2.2 is so new that 3rd party CD's
haven't been made yet, or is 2.2 not "free"? Hopefully the former is the
case because it would be sad to see a major Linux distro that cannot
be freely copied.
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mikkelson)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 19:42:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Formal
>> copyright protection doesn't really buy that much. People still
>> see an making extra copy of appfoo as a near zero cost process
>> and intuitively devalue that software and pirate away.
>
>I don't see us going to dongles so much as Intel developing a hardware
>"uber dongle" which will live on the PC board or even in the CPU. It
>would hold licence information etc.
>
>With billions at stake, we should not underestimate what they would do
>to stop the loss of revenue from the loss of copyrights.
How would they convince *all* hardware manufacturers to include these
"uber-dongles"? Un-dongled manufacturers would probably succeed in the
marketplace, so the current IP beneficiaries would have to push another
law through legislature to ban un-dongled machines.
-Chris
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:12:08 -0700
On Mon, 03 May 1999 19:22:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>: Your argument essentially boils down to it's !DOS, so of course
>: you will see it as a failure.
>
>actually, your argument essentially boild down to "if it's !Linux, of course
>it must be for MS, therefore it must be evil."
Not at all. I quite often argue for Solaris or VMS or MacOS
or FreeBSD over Linux when it is appropriate.
You're problem is that you view World==DOS. Therefore when anyone
slags your beloved DOS you think they are slagging the rest of the
world when they really aren't/
>
>there are countless examples of good and bad interfaces in the world. Linux
>applications in general are bad because the mechanism for making good
>interfaces is complicated.
>
>- there is little commonality of parts to employ consistency when needbe.
This is distinct from MFC and the default widget editor options in
MSVC++ just how?
>
>- the various help schemas are either incredibly bad (man pages) or incredibly
>nonstandard (recent attempts)
As long as the menu item that says help provides you with some,
what's the problem? Even winhelp is little more than a facility
to load a file and then do content based markup translation on
it.
>
>- the various other de facto 'standards' such as make are incredibly poorly
>designed from a user standpoint (and from a developer standpoint).
'various' huh?
>
>- there are few interface builders for prototyping
If you're of the 'one-true-interface' persuasion, 'few' shouldn't
be a problem to begin with. Although, this is a 'vendorsupport'
type issue and is rather irrelevant to the bulk of users (being
a developer interface issue).
>
>- there is no mechanism for objective, non-email-feedback-based user analysis.
>it just isn't done. in practice, a programmer dork decides what the interface
>should be and then he does it.
This is better than some arrogant expert in a usability lab just how?
>
>- even if there were, prototyping and user testing is rarely done. instead,
>there are social pressures to "RTFM" to cover up for poor design.
That certainly explains the proliferation at attempts to
address the needs of the novice user.
>
>interface design and usability analysis have little to do with GUIs directly.
>MS has gotten good at it, though they occasionally blunder big time and still
>put out some stinkers. Inerface and usability designs are now formally
>understood with well known properties--not just "stick a GUI on top of it and
>call it usable." Suggest you read books such as "Interactive System Design"
>by Newmann for an introduction to the field.
>
>and either from you or from Costello, who is quickly shaping up to be all
>smoke no fire jedi #2, I have yet to see a counterexample.
A counterexample to what? You've got to start doing something
besides preaching the 'one-true-interface' (like providing your
own examples rather than making vague accusations) to rate a
counter-example.
On the subject of Gimp: how does gimp being 'behind' Photoshop
disprove the viability of OSS for apps? It's a baby compared to
photoshop in terms of raw years.
The same goes for most of the rest of the application efforts.
By claiming that Gimp is only 4 years behind photoshop at this
point rather does OSS credit instead of discredit.
--
Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
A little spite is more than justified. / | \
In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP! Linux frame types
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:02:59 GMT
Greetings. Does anyone know the default ethernet frame type of a standard RH
5.2 installation? I'm hoping it's 802.2.
The problem is this: At work, I have a linux box on a predominantly Microsoft
network. Occasionally our NT server goes down. Our sysadmin thinks it's
because the linux box is sending out 802.3 frames, which he says confuses our
server. So he wants the linux box off the network, unless I can show him that
it uses 802.2 frames by default.
Please help! I need this linux box! I'll check this newsgroup for responses,
but if you could mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'd really appreciate it.
Travis
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help! Null modem and pppd
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:03:44 GMT
I have followed as best I understand the intructions in the PPP-HOW-TO and
some advice picked up in the newsgroups on setting up a null modem connection
between two Linux boxes but have no success.
Would any one be able to step me through this simply, including verifying
exactly what I need in my /etc/hosts file on both the client and the server
machine, including where I am supposed to enter the specific name of each
machine.
At the moment I have the following:
Server side:
Machine name: depaul.mydomain.com.au
/etc/hosts--reads as:
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain local
192.168.1.1 depaul.mydomain.com.au depaul
192.168.1.2 presario.mydomain.com.au presario
typed in at a terminal is:
pppd -detach crtscts lock 192.168.1.1:192.168.1.2 /dev/ttyS1 38400 local &
Client side:
Machine name: presario.mydomain.com.au
/etc/hosts--reads as:
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.1.2 presario.mydomain.com.au presario
192.168.1.1 depaul.mydomain.com.au depaul
typed in at the terminal is:
pppd -detach crtscts lock /dev/ttyS0 38400 &
The ps command shows pppd with the respective paremeters running on each
machine. I try to: ping 192.168.1.1 but get no response from the box about
1.5metres away :-(
I'm using com1 on the client and com2 on the server (laptop to desktop)
connected via a laplink serial cable.
Thanks for any help.
Regards
Paul.
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
From: Ed Avis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:13:23 +0100
Andrew Carol wrote:
>If software copyrights were abolished the industry would simply and
>easily take matters into their own hands. They would push hard for
>copy protection to be rolled into the hardware. They would require
>downloading of "tokens" from the net to allow software to work etc.
But it would be an easy matter to modify the software so that it
didn't require such 'tokens'. Even if the software were binary-only,
a 'crack' would not be too difficult. And if we considered the
'tokens' to be part of the software itself (not unreasonable, since
the software requires the tokens to work, and the tokens are useless
without the software), then one person could download tokens and
distribute them freely to others.
In any case, this situation is hypothetical. But I am sure that if
governments did decide to abolish copyrights on software, they would
also abolish legal protection for any obvious workarounds.
--
Ed Avis
Advertise here! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 19:22:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
: Your argument essentially boils down to it's !DOS, so of course
: you will see it as a failure.
actually, your argument essentially boild down to "if it's !Linux, of course
it must be for MS, therefore it must be evil."
there are countless examples of good and bad interfaces in the world. Linux
applications in general are bad because the mechanism for making good
interfaces is complicated.
- there is little commonality of parts to employ consistency when needbe.
- the various help schemas are either incredibly bad (man pages) or incredibly
nonstandard (recent attempts)
- the various other de facto 'standards' such as make are incredibly poorly
designed from a user standpoint (and from a developer standpoint).
- there are few interface builders for prototyping
- there is no mechanism for objective, non-email-feedback-based user analysis.
it just isn't done. in practice, a programmer dork decides what the interface
should be and then he does it.
- even if there were, prototyping and user testing is rarely done. instead,
there are social pressures to "RTFM" to cover up for poor design.
interface design and usability analysis have little to do with GUIs directly.
MS has gotten good at it, though they occasionally blunder big time and still
put out some stinkers. Inerface and usability designs are now formally
understood with well known properties--not just "stick a GUI on top of it and
call it usable." Suggest you read books such as "Interactive System Design"
by Newmann for an introduction to the field.
and either from you or from Costello, who is quickly shaping up to be all
smoke no fire jedi #2, I have yet to see a counterexample.
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
From: Darrell Sydlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:29:20 +0000
Robert Brashear wrote:
> Micheal MacCana wrote:
> >
> > Roy,
> > I've got a DVD drive too. Apparently, there's no way to read DVD-ROM or
> > movie disks on Linux. At the speed of Linux development, however, this will
> > surely change in at most nine months though.Does anyone know of such plans?
> >
>
> This may be a little off topic and I don't want to start a flame war,
> but I am curious. Why would someone want to watch a movie on a desktop
> computer? I have never understood this. The comfort factor would be my
> biggest objection. Then again, if you have a 36 inch monitor and your
> desktop is a studio screening setup...
>
> Bob Brashear
Maybe do your homework and watch a flick.
Syd
-Veni, vidi, vici... Then I went home.
------------------------------
From: Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:05:09 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They seem to want to do that anyways. They want to get as much
> money out of us with as little effort as possible. Of course,
> customers want the reverse to happen.
True. But I think that they would react much quicker/stronger on the
copyright issue. Today copyrights plus basic honesty amongst the
customers provides enough protection at very minimal cost. Remove the
copyright, and change the culture to "gee, most software is free, this
should be too", and their dynamic changes. They will be forced to
spend lots more to protect it. We will be forced to pay more to obtain
it.
Free software is a very good thing. But it prospers because it is an
alternative. If it were the only game in town I wonder in how many
ways it could become a mire.
Oh well....
------------------------------
From: "David L. Earle, Sr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh for redhat 6.0
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:54:42 -0700
The RPMs at ftp.turbolinux.com work for 5.2 -- haven't tried them with 6.0
yet.
David
William Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Does anyone know of an rpm of ssh that works on redhat 6.0?
>
> Also need ssh for Redhat 5.2
>
>
> thanks
> Bill
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mikkelson)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:06:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mind you, the argument that free software is somehow anti-free-market
>is flat out wrong. (I don't want to use the word "capitalism" because
>I don't believe that free market and capitalism are one and the same
>thing. A free market need not be capitalistic in nature; barter is
>one such example. [snip]
Good point. A more radical example would be something like
anarcho-syndicalism, or individualist anarchism, both of which were
very anti-capitalist, but supported the free market.
>My basic premise here is that patents (in particular) and copyrights
>(to some extent) are in conflict with a truly free market. Patents in
>particular are a government action that restricts the rights of
>parties not under contract with the patent owner. Indeed, the very
>premise of patents (that innovators need an incentive) is a direct
>claim that the free market fails in a certain way.
This argument applies equally well to (some) physical property.
I never signed a contract recognizing my landlord's property claim,
nor anyone else's for that matter. The fact that they need this
government support tells me that what they do (have their name on
a deed) must not be a very valuable service.
-Chris
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To: talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 19:04:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 03 May 1999 18:03:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) wrote:
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> >> It doesn't. He's speaking nonsense again.
> >
> >That would explain all that great GPL'd end-user software out there like..
> >umm.. umm.. let's see.. what lame ducks to the zealots like to wheel out in
> >situations like this. The Gimp? (4 years behind photoshop) Their WYSIWYG
> >editor? (uh oh.. seem to have misplaced that one) Emacs? (bwahahaha) XV?
Hmm. *WHICH* WYSYWIG editor? Visit http://www.freshmeat.org
and http://www.gnome.org one of these days.
> >(about as complicated technologically as one of those paddles with a rubber
> >ball attached to it via a little rubber band but STILL manages to have a
> >terrible user interface).
> >
> >And even if there is some wonderful GPL'd end-user piece of software out
> >there that keeps up with the times and lives up to modern usability
> >standards, it would be the exception, not the rule. GPLd (and all or most of
>
> See, this is the fatal flaw with your entire rant. You're more
> worried about user interface goosestepping than actual utility.
>
> Your argument essentially boils down to it's !DOS, so of course
> you will see it as a failure.
>
> You don't even give any real details as to how what apps you
> do mention fail to live up to the 'one-true-interface'.
It's called rejection.
>
> [deletia]
> --
>
> Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
> A little spite is more than justified. / | \
>
>
> In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
--
Chris Costello
Computers talk to each other worse than their designers do.
------------------------------
From: Mark Greene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Alpha Server + WinNT + DOS progs???
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 16:34:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Thomas L|fgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>> "cpm" == cpm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> cpm> Hi Everybody ! My question; On my job I have a ALPHA server
> cpm> running UNIX, is it possible to change that to a WinNT server
> cpm> running DOS programs ??
>
> I think it has all the components needed to do so, yes. It also has
> all the components needed to change it into a digital clock that beeps
> every hour. I would find the latter more useful.
>
> Tom
> --
> Wherever I lay my .emacs, that's my ${HOME}
>
IIRC, someone in one of the game groups was lamenting the fact that they
could not run Quake (or maybe it was Hexin) on an Alpha/NT cause it does not
do DOS. A web search for "DEC Alpha" +DOS at your favorite search engine
should give you quick confirmation of this. -- Mark Disclaimer: The above
opinions are mine, not my employer's. Seriously old web page:
http://members.aol.com/prgrmr/basic.html Quote: "It's a poor memory that only
works backwards" -- The Red Queen
============= Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ============
http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello)
Crossposted-To: talk.politics.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.activism
Subject: Re: The GNU Fragrance of Sharing vs. the Stench of Greed (was: GNU reeks of
Communism (really)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:42:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 03 May 1999 19:04:10 GMT, Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> On Mon, 03 May 1999 18:03:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Costello) wrote:
> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Krawitz wrote:
> >> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> [deletia]
> >> >And even if there is some wonderful GPL'd end-user piece of software out
> >> >there that keeps up with the times and lives up to modern usability
> >> >standards, it would be the exception, not the rule. GPLd (and all or most of
> >>
> >> See, this is the fatal flaw with your entire rant. You're more
> >> worried about user interface goosestepping than actual utility.
> >>
> >> Your argument essentially boils down to it's !DOS, so of course
> >> you will see it as a failure.
> >>
> >> You don't even give any real details as to how what apps you
> >> do mention fail to live up to the 'one-true-interface'.
> >
> > It's called rejection.
>
> Que? Details please?
He's rejecting the concept that there is something better than
the wonderful DOS.
>
> --
>
> Microsoft subjected the world to DOS until 1995. |||
> A little spite is more than justified. / | \
>
>
> In search of sane PPP Docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
--
Chris Costello
Use GOTOs only to implement a fundamental structure.
------------------------------
From: Dave Philips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: DVD movies on Linux ?
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:30:50 -0400
On 3 May 1999, Scott Larson wrote:
| My monitor has better resolution than my TV. I have to put the TV pretty
| far away for the picture to look decent but the monitor looks fine up
| close. Also most DVD software will save every DVD bookmark to disk
| so they're still there after you've watched another DVD.
regardless of your monitor's resolution, output meant for a tv is limited
to 640x480. i run at 1600x1200 but to watch tv/vcr/dvd fullscreen i have
to move away from my desk.
dave
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
