Linux-Misc Digest #43, Volume #26 Sun, 15 Oct 00 19:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: LILO version 21.6 released (Rudi Sluijtman)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: What is a good graphical mail client? (walt)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (jazz)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (jazz)
Re: make using very less CPU/How do I speed up? (NF Stevens)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Expand .sit files? (-ljl-)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Warning: Setting Locale Failed (Grega Bremec)
Install Wordperfect from CorelLinux CD (Brian Goodyear)
Bru and cdrw (Brian Goodyear)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: autologin and mingetty ("S. Opel")
Re: Warning: Setting Locale Failed (David Efflandt)
OOPS/Re: ensoniq soundcard (Robert Lynch)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: LILO version 21.6 released
From: Rudi Sluijtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:05:47 GMT
Hi John,
John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> LILO release 21.6 is based upon Werner Almesberger's LILO version 21.
> >
> >Could you please provide us with, or point to, some documentation about
> >the usage of the "- Completely new menu-driven user interface."
>
> Usage information on what keys to press is contained in the menu itself.
> Customization information is provided in the 'man' pages for 'lilo.conf'.
In the man pages for lilo.conf I only find:
message=message-file
specifies a file containing a message that is dis�
played before the boot prompt. No message is dis�
played while waiting for a shifting key after
printing "LILO ". In the message, the FF character
([Ctrl L]) clears the local screen. The size of the
message file is limited to 65535 bytes. The map
file has to be rebuilt if the message file is
changed or moved.
How can I use this for a graphical boot-menu like RedHat does in rh7?
What do I miss?
thx,
Rudi Sluijtman.
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:10:05 +0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
>
Learn LaTeX (or LyX) - you'll be much more efficient in no time.
> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
I use gnumeric for spreadsheets.
If you need something like powerpoint... *shrug*.
But with LaTeX you canproduce some nice slides...
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user,linux.debian.www
Subject: Re: What is a good graphical mail client?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 15:27:39 -0700
ray wrote:
> Tom Huckstep wrote:
>
> > By the way, I've tried mozilla, but it is sooooo sloooooow on my
> > machine. I'd try netscape, but fear the same problem, and anyway, I
> > don't know what to do to get Netscape working from the base install.
> > Tom Huckstep
> > --
> > Tom Huckstep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8scons$b9q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Is there such a thing as a decent graphical mail program for Linux,
> > > which supports POP3 and SMTP? I have spent all day looking through
> > > dselect for such a thing.
> > > I would like a simple interface which will let me save messages in
> > an
> > > outbox, to be sent when I connect to the internet via my modem. I
> > > have tried both balsa and spruce, but both seem to be very early in
> > > development, and I can't get either to work with any degree of
> > > success. Emacs doesn't seem to offer any easily configured mail
> > > clients either. I don't want to have to go through exim or
> > sendmail,
> > > but straight to my ISP's server.
> > > Ashamed as I am to admit it, Outlook Express does nearly all that I
> > > want. POP3 and STMP, easy folder management, along with an outbox
> > for
> > > saving messages when offline, and a sent items folder. (The search
> > > facility is also excellent).
> > > If you use a program that has these features, or know of one, please
> > > let me know. (I will also be happy to use a text-based one, if it
> > is
> > > any good).
> > >
> > > Tom Huckstep
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> We may be starting a distro, WM, desktop flame war, here, but. i have
> used several I liked. Actually, Nutscrape is not slow on my machine,
> though, certainly, Mozilla is. I do not care for KDE, preferring Gnome
> and either sawfish or enlightenment, but I do have KDE installed, and my
> decided email favorite is kmail. It's in kdenetwork package. It's tiny,
> fast, has all the features I need. It works great with gnome. This new
> evolution they are building I have looked at, it's not for me, though it
> is interesting. I just need basic folders, addressbooks, etc., and kmail
> does all I need.
My outgoing (smtp) server requires authentication with username and
password to control spam. So far Netscape is the only linux app that
I've found that will do that. Any others you know of?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jazz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:29:04 -0400
In article <e1qG5.3420$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan
Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
> >
>
> Learn LaTeX (or LyX) - you'll be much more efficient in no time.
>
> > What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>
> I use gnumeric for spreadsheets.
> If you need something like powerpoint... *shrug*.
> But with LaTeX you canproduce some nice slides...
>
>
> Cheers,
> -Jan
Unfortunately the world uses Word, and since I coauthor papers, I have to
use it or something compatible.
Thanks
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jazz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:29:30 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Larry Ebbitt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> jazz wrote:
>
> > What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>
> StarOffice is a pretty good Office clone.
Can you import/export to/from Word?
Thanks
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: make using very less CPU/How do I speed up?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:23:26 GMT
Tijmen Stam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>HI.
>I'm installing Linux from Scratch, and while building glibc i launched
>top, and was surprised that the compiling programs (make, cpp & gcc)
>usually use about 5-10% of the CPU's power, with maxima of about 45%.
>Top is telling me +- 65 % user, 10% system, 0.5% nice, 25% idle, but in
>the CPU-sorted list, the first two or three items user 5,0 and2.5%, the
>next 5 somthing between 1 and 0.1, and the rest 0.0%.
>
>I assume some systemCPU is overhead, but sometimes it's working for a
>couple of second on one compiling instruction... Where does the 60%
>system use come from then???
>And, I don't want the 25% idle, I want to go to bed and therefore speed
>up the compiling, damn'it! ;-)
>
>Who can clear things up a bit on this?
I suspect what is happening is that the
typical compile is taking less time than
the refresh interval of top (glibc source
file tend to be small, one function per
file in general). You'll get lots of processes
which are not caught by top because they aren't
running at any of instants at which top queries
the kernel for process stats; so top knows
nothing about them.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:46:43 GMT
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Linux world that will 100 percent
emulate MSOffice. Nothing at all.
THe Linux toys are a joke. Try them for yourself and see how well your
presentations translate.
When the rest of the world is running Office, why should you run some
half assed wannabe?
Is your job worth it?
claire
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:23:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(jazz) wrote:
>I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
>
>What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>
>Thanks ---
>Jazz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:47:19 GMT
You have to be kidding?
Latex?
barrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
claire
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:10:05 +0400, "Jan Schaumann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
>>
>
>Learn LaTeX (or LyX) - you'll be much more efficient in no time.
>
>> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>
>I use gnumeric for spreadsheets.
>If you need something like powerpoint... *shrug*.
>But with LaTeX you canproduce some nice slides...
>
>
>Cheers,
>-Jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:47:56 GMT
Pretty good don't cut it.
It sucks and is even more bloated than MSOffice.
claire
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:08:05 -0400, Larry Ebbitt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>jazz wrote:
>
>> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>
>StarOffice is a pretty good Office clone.
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Expand .sit files?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:37:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Patrik Kempe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone that can tell me what app I need to extract macintosh .sit
files?
Try "file xxx.sit" and see if it reports it as zip.
If yes then "unzip xxx.sit".
I just discovered this less than a week ago,
it worked for me :-)
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:52:57 GMT
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:47:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It sucks and is even more bloated than MSOffice.
Yea, but at least it doesn't have that funny smell about it, and infect
itself into every nook and cranny it can.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grega Bremec)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Warning: Setting Locale Failed
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:53:43 GMT
...and Bryan Robinson used the keyboard:
>I'm trying to get asDrinks to work on my system. When I try to run the
>script, I get the following message:
>
>perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
>perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = "en",
> LC_ALL = "en",
> LANG = "en"
> are supported and installed on your system.
>
>This doesn't seem to be well documented. Can anyone tell me how to
>change these settings, or at least where to look for info?
I bet you run Slackware. I used to be getting the same error, until I
downloaded the glibc-*.rpm from RedHat, converted it to tgz (rpm2tgz)
and extracted the /usr/share/i18n and /usr/share/locale directories to
overwrite the old ones with the contents of these. After that, all
works fine (only the custom fonts in Gtk themes seem not to want to
work for some odd reason...).
Of course, I suppose I needn't mention you should back up the two
directories prior to attempting to do that...
Cheers,
--
Grega Bremec
grega.bremec-at-gbsoft.org
http://www.gbsoft.org/
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:55:49 -0400
From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install Wordperfect from CorelLinux CD
Does anyone know how to install Wordperfect from the CorelLinux CD
without installing Corel Linux. I manged to unpackage the deb package
but the installed expects to be run from the cd and if I just try to run
it seems to complain that it's settings file is missing.
Thanks, Brian
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:57:07 -0400
From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Bru and cdrw
I am using the version of Bru that came with Corel linux. It works fine
except in one situation.
If I use this command line:
bru -cvvvv -s 640M -f - /home/* | cdrecord dev=3,0 speed=4 -eject -
it winds it's way though till it gets around the 650 mark and then bru
says something to the effect that "-" is not a directory, shall we
backup "-" y/n
If I press n, it just asks the question again, if I press y cdrecord
aborts and ejects cause the disk is full.
I am under the impression that I should be able to feed it another one
but the script or whatever it is bumps me back to the command line. Any
ideas?
Brian
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:50:34 +0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <e1qG5.3420$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan
> Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> > I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
>> >
>>
>> Learn LaTeX (or LyX) - you'll be much more efficient in no time.
>>
>> > What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
>>
>> I use gnumeric for spreadsheets. If you need something like
>> powerpoint... *shrug*. But with LaTeX you canproduce some nice
>> slides...
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -Jan
>
>
>
> Unfortunately the world uses Word, and since I coauthor papers, I have
> to use it or something compatible.
Well, then you probably want to take a look at
-abiword
-StarOffice (BLOATware)
-ApplixWare (payware)
Or you can just distribute your documents as pdf's...
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:51:59 +0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You have to be kidding?
>
> Latex?
>
> barrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
why?
The OP said he needed a powerful word-processor. I don't know anything
more powerful with respect to word-processing...
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:53:24 +0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Linux world that will 100 percent
> emulate MSOffice. Nothing at all.
>
> THe Linux toys are a joke. Try them for yourself and see how well your
> presentations translate.
>
> When the rest of the world is running Office, why should you run some
> half assed wannabe?
Hmmm, took me three posts to realize you're a troll, I'm getting old.
*plonk*
Cheers,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Please add smileys where appropriate.
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From: "S. Opel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: autologin and mingetty
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:03:59 GMT
1;2345 respawn:/sbin/mingetty ttty1
ttoo much t-s (try tty1)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Warning: Setting Locale Failed
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:04:14 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 15:40:59 -0400, Bryan Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to get asDrinks to work on my system. When I try to run the
>script, I get the following message:
>
>perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
>perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = "en",
> LC_ALL = "en",
> LANG = "en"
> are supported and installed on your system.
>
>This doesn't seem to be well documented. Can anyone tell me how to
>change these settings, or at least where to look for info?
I had that problem with I used the Mandrake Updates icon to update
Perl. That was solved by simply updating locale and locale-en.
However, I also had that problem in FreeBSD and I don't recall if
installing locale solved that completely. In that case it was something
about the C libs not having locale support.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OOPS/Re: ensoniq soundcard
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:07:37 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Lynch wrote:
> Just to mention, it does seem possible to get it going. I have
> this in /proc/pci:
> ===
> Bus 1, device 1, function 0:
> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557 [Ethernet Pro
> 100] (rev 8).
> IRQ 9.
> Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=8.Max Lat=56.
> Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xff8ff000 [0xff8fffff].
> I/O at 0xde80 [0xdebf].
> Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xff700000 [0xff7fffff].
[SNIP]
Obviously this is not what I aimed to post.
===
Bus 1, device 7, function 0:
Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]
(rev 6).
IRQ 3.
Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=12.Max Lat=128.
I/O at 0xdf00
[0xdf3f].
===
The above is. :)
HTH. Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:08:08 GMT
Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
world, is using Word.
Maybe Linus will give you a job at Transmeta.
claire
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:52:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss) wrote:
>On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 22:47:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>It sucks and is even more bloated than MSOffice.
>
>Yea, but at least it doesn't have that funny smell about it, and infect
>itself into every nook and cranny it can.
>
>--
>Hal B
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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