Linux-Misc Digest #43, Volume #21 Thu, 15 Jul 99 16:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Problem with graphics in Word Perfect and Amaya in Debian 2.0 ("puptank")
Re: No RX of packets!!! (Tobias Anderberg)
Re: Chmoding directories for =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=ABO=BBthers=3A?= x or rx? (stu)
Market share of different PC's OS (Jesus Alonso Urbano)
Re: GNOME and ORBit installation (Eric Potter)
Re: Newbie having major (probably stupid) problems, and lots of 'em (Thomas Ruedas)
Dial up problem ("Charley Wen")
Re: VERY SEXY STUFF 72476 ("Devoid")
Shrink swap partition ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
odbc for linux PLEASE HELP ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: alternate system command (Gergo Barany)
Re: ftape doesn't compile (Adam Adair)
Re: Shrink swap partition (Gergo Barany)
Re: Full Paths ("Russ")
Re: FTP daemon resetting folder permissions??? (NF Stevens)
Re: any way to access MBR directly? ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: Fonts with Word Perfect 8 ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: mt-st and DLT4000 tape drive (Robert Komar)
Re: Major RedHat 6.0 Disappointment ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CIA assassinations (Graffiti)
Re: Installation (from harddrive) failure (JM)
Re: My HDD crashed, now what? (Jonathan Chattin)
Newbie problem...surprise (Craig Stewart)
Can someone recommend.... (Andrew Arbon)
Re: Is CD-R usuable as backup medium on Linux? (Calvin Ostrum)
Re: Full Paths (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: tar not packing files starting with "." ("Faisal Nasim")
Re: VERY SEXY STUFF 72476 (Stewart Honsberger)
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From: "puptank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with graphics in Word Perfect and Amaya in Debian 2.0
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:22:21 +1200
Julio Angel Infante Sedano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi there,
>
> I am running Debian GNU/Linux 2.1 and I recently installed Word
> Perfect 8, and the HTML editor Amaya. In both of these programs,
> all graphics look horrible, being reduced to a series of pinkish or
> greyish set of vertical lines. Do I need some package to have them
> work properly (I downloaded Amaya through dselect, and there was no
> dependency problem).
I'm using Debian too. This is just a guess, but... try installing
imagemagick if you don't already have it. The dependencies will make
sure you have support for a few graphic types. If that doesn't work...
erm... I give up.
> I have also a graphical annoyance when using Netscape since the
> button graphics appears monochrome (although the web page renderings
> are faultless). Any reason for this.
It's "just one of those things". You'll need to run X at 16 or 32 bpp
(not 24bpp) to get Netscape's taskbar icons to look right. Eg:
startx -- -bpp 16
All the best,
puptank
--
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http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~trmusson/
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"Sausage mystified by share price rise" - Evening Post 7/12/98
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Anderberg)
Subject: Re: No RX of packets!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:44:21 +0200
>I have just set up a computer ona 10BaseT
>network. I have a 3com509 card installed and
>detected. I'm running RH 6.0. My computer
>transmit packets out to my gateway router, but I
>never recieve anything back. I know that I have
>my DNS and Gateway #'s correct. I transmit and
>ping, but I never get anything in return, like:
Just a thought; is your IP address mapped to your eth0?
--
tobias
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From: stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chmoding directories for =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=ABO=BBthers=3A?= x or rx?
Date: 15 Jul 1999 11:08:35 GMT
Gilles Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> �Unix for the Impatient� (p. 45), on chmoding directories:
> �Normallay r is granted whenever x is; you can get some strange
> effects if a directory has x but not r. For instance, if a directory
> has x turned on but not r, you can't list its contents, but if you
> already know its contents, you can delete or copy its files.�
> Those "strange effects" remain unexplained to me. How can one delete
> or copy files to a directory if "w" permission is not granted? How
> could NOT granting "r" permission jeopardize security?
I think the text is perhaps a little misleading. If w is not set then
indeed no-one can delete the files, no matter what the state of r and x.
However with w set and r unset, so long as you know the filenames you can
gun the files. Having x set without r does have its uses though. For
example, on my old University unix account ~/public_html used to contain
my webpages. Obviously x needed to be set on ~/ so that apache could get
to ~/public_html, but this meant that anyone could look in my home
directory. by unsetting r for other users I could give access to my
webpages, but stop people browsing my home directory.
Stu
--
>From the prompt of Stu Teasdale
The groundhog is like most other prophets; it delivers its message and then
disappears.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jesus Alonso Urbano)
Subject: Market share of different PC's OS
Date: 15 Jul 1999 16:15:13 GMT
Hi,
Does anybody know where I can find studies on the market share obtained by
different operating systems for PC's from 1995 from 1998?
Would you mind to send me some information or some address where to find such
facts?
Thanks in advance.
Jesus Alonso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Subject: Re: GNOME and ORBit installation
Date: 15 Jul 1999 16:17:27 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] enlightened this group thus:
> I am having trouble with the compilation of GNOME and associated
> libraries.
>
> My first difficulty is with ORbit 0.4.3
> I can CONFIGURE, MAKE and MAKE INSTALL however when I then run the GNOME
> lib CONFIGURE
> I always get an error saying that ORbit is not installed:
>
> checking for orbit-config... no
> checking for orbit-idl... no
Were they installed in a directory which is in your PATH?
> checking for working ORBit environment... no
>configure: error: ORBit not installed or installation problem
>
> I don't really know anything about orbit, what I have to configure or
> what environment
> variables have to be set!
> I would really appreciate any help on this matter....
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jazzy(foot).
>
>
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:57:34 +0200
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie having major (probably stupid) problems, and lots of 'em
Not too much of help, as I'm not very experienced either, but anyway...
You might look at Linux FAQs and HOWTOs:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/iwj10/linux-faq/
http://www.uni-paderborn.de/Linux/mdw/HOWTO/
The following HOWTOs may be of special interest:
http://www.uni-paderborn.de/Linux/mdw/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO.html
with respect to your chipset and
http://www.uni-paderborn.de/Linux/mdw/HOWTO/XFree86-HOWTO.html
with respect to X setup.
In principle it shouldn't be necessary to edit the X config file, as
there are frontends for setup (see the HOWTO); the conf file is
somewhere in /etc. If you really want to edit it by hand, use an editor
like emacs; its most important commands are ctrl-shift-_ for undoing,
ctrl-x ctrl-s for saving and ctrl-x ctrl-c for quitting :-) .
Hope that helps a bit,
--
============================================
Thomas Ruedas
Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics,
J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main
Feldbergstrasse 47 D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany
Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949 Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
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From: "Charley Wen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dial up problem
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:07:13 -0700
Hi,
i'm a newbie in the Linux world. I found that after I dialed up my ISP using
Kppp and the connection was successfully established, I couldn't telnet a
remote server in KConsole, neither could I use Communicator to surf the net.
I CAN ping the IP address of my ISP server though! So, I'm wondering what's
the problem here or if there's any additional step I missed (under ms
windows, I can telnet or browser right after the connection was made so I
assume it's the same case under Linux)? Thanks for any help in advance
Charley
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From: "Devoid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx
Subject: Re: VERY SEXY STUFF 72476
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:30:09 -0400
Cameron L. Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anonymous wrote:
> >ADULTS!
> >
> >Click the link below:
> >
> >http://207.240.225.250
> >
> >* 18+ Only Please!
>
> This fellow seems convinced BBnPlanet and the Nuie Registry are not going
> to bother him any. Please ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
what
> is going on.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] too!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Shrink swap partition
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:49:48 GMT
I have 128 MB memory but I still created 256 MB swap space. Then I
realized the maximum swap space Linux can use is 128 MB. I already have
some software installed on the system. Can I non-destructively shrink
the swap space to 128 MB? Thanks.
Yong
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: odbc for linux PLEASE HELP
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:49:49 GMT
Hi can anyone tell me where I can find an odbc driver for sql server 7
for a linux box with a mips processor?
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: alternate system command
Date: 15 Jul 1999 18:05:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kurt Hindenburg wrote:
>Hello,
> I'm looking for a system call which syntax would be
>similar to system (or exec..) but that the output would be returned
>in a string (ie not send to stdout)...Is this possible? If not, what
>would you suggest?
> For example, say I want to gather the output in my program of 'ls -l
>somefile'.
I'm not familiar with POSIX, but there's some way to open a pipe that
gives you a child's output. Or you could redirect ls' output into a file
and then read that: system("ls -l > /tmp/listing");
Gergo
--
Next to being shot at and missed, nothing is really quite as satisfying
as an income tax refund.
-- F. J. Raymond
GU d- s:+ a--- C++>$ UL+++ P>++ L+++ E>++ W+ N++ o? K- w--- !O !M !V
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From: Adam Adair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftape doesn't compile
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:05:22 -0400
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, Miikka Laakko wrote:
>Once again I tried to compile ftape, but...
>
>fdc-io.c: In function fdc_interrupt_wait':
>fdc-io.c:433: structure has no member named timeout'
>fdc-io.c:454: structure has no member named timeout'
>make[2]: *** [fdc-io.o] Error 1
>make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/ftape-4.03-pre-2/ftape/lowlevel'
>make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
>make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/ftape-4.03-pre-2/ftape'
>make: *** [all] Error 2
>
>...is all I get out of it. What might be the problem?
I am having the same problems as well. I've tried to compile on a SuSE 6.1,
and Red Hat 5.2 and 6.0 systems. I get the exact same message on each system.
I looked into the code
one of the offending lines looks like this:
current->timeout = jiffies + (1000 * time + FT_USPT - 1) / FT_USPT;
But I can't find anywhere in the code where current is declared, so I can't
look at the structure.
-Adam
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: Shrink swap partition
Date: 15 Jul 1999 18:07:24 GMT
In article <7ml6vn$mgl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have 128 MB memory but I still created 256 MB swap space. Then I
>realized the maximum swap space Linux can use is 128 MB. I already have
>some software installed on the system. Can I non-destructively shrink
>the swap space to 128 MB? Thanks.
The 2.2 family of kernels can use more than 128 MB on swap, IIRC (as
long as total memory is under 2 GB). Other than that, swapoff, fdisk,
swapon might work.
Gergo
--
Next to being shot at and missed, nothing is really quite as satisfying
as an income tax refund.
-- F. J. Raymond
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PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t* 5+ X- R>+ tv++ b+>+++ DI+ D+ G>++ e* h! !r !y+
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From: "Russ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Full Paths
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:04:06 -0500
I either don't understand the answers or I didn't ask the quetion properly.
If I change directories into a directory such as " cd /usr/russ/" then once
inside the directory there is a program called fast, when i type "fast" it
says "bash: fast: command not found" but if I type "/usr/russ/fast" the
program will work. I don't see why I should have to add /usr/russ to the
path, if in side the directory wanting to run the program. I have never had
this problem till my recent upgrade.
Russ
Russ wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Slackware Linux version 2.2.6
>
>Hello,
> I recently went to 2.2.6 and have noticed that all the programs I run
>have to have full paths or they don't work.
>
>This would not work.
>"cd /usr/bin/"
>"myprogram "
>
>This would work.
>"/usr/bin/myprogram"
>
>
>
>Any ideas how to make me not have to use full paths every time I run
>something would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>Russ Verner
>
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: FTP daemon resetting folder permissions???
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:43:17 GMT
Christopher Suleske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi. I'm running the most recent anonymous FTP daemon that comes with
>6.0. An interesting "feature" is that every so often, the permissions
>and owners of the standard setup folders (pub, etc) are reset to their
>initially installed values. Is this a feature run by cron somewhere? I
>don't recall this in earlier versions.
>
>What I do is change the owner of pub, so it can be maintained by a
>non-root user.
>
/etc/permissions
Norman
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: any way to access MBR directly?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 11:52:28 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "J�rgen Exner" wrote:
> >
> > Michael Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:7m9k84$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I was running a dual boot setup with lilo in the MBR
> > > and then decided to change things around so I went
> > > ahead and formatted the drive. This wiped out both
> > > the DOS and Linux partitions, but left the LILO
> > > intact on the MBR. I eventually managed to "reset"
> > > the MBR by installing DOS, then Win98, but I'm still curious
> > > if there was a way to wipe out LILO manually?
> >
> > No problem. Assuming you are using a SCSI system:
> > Simply "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda"
>
> For a scsi disk it would be /dev/sda.
>
> > plus you may want to restrict the size
> > to 256 bytes (otherwise you would erase more then just the MBR; details
>
> That's interesting. The first sector of the disk has 512 bytes.
> Does this mean that only the first 256 bytes contain information
> that may be changed by lilo? Does anyone know a ready source which
> explains exactly how the MBR is ordinarily laid out?
Sorry, I should have been more careful when typing.
Of course you are right (on both counts).
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Fonts with Word Perfect 8
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:49:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anand Singh Bisen wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> I am a new bie to Linux and am having difficulties in installing
> fonts to Word Perfect 8 in Redhat Linux 6.0... rather i am not able to
> install any of then at all... what should i do please help me out...
You have to start WP8 as administrator (-a flag) and depending on how
it was installed you may need to be root. Also the download version
may not have come with the font installer and the libraries it needs
so you may have to go the the WP7 download to get those. After all
that I was able to install fonts.
Ahh then I decided to install the commercial version I paid for and it
all went phlooey again. Ahh well...
Art S. Kagel
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From: Robert Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mt-st and DLT4000 tape drive
Date: 15 Jul 1999 18:24:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hi all,
: I have a Quantum PowerStor L200 with a DLT 4000 tape drive. It is used
: to backup a Redhat 5.2 (kernel 2.2.9) Linux box.
: I use DLTtape IV cartridges.
: When I try to backup a big amount of data, it stops at the end of the
: tape asking for the next tape.
: Problem is that sometimes it stops after 20 GB and somtimes after 35
: GB.
: I have tried both tar and bru with the same result.
: Do you have any idea why?
: Should I set up the density with mt? And where should I get the value
: for it?
: Is it a problem with the BOT of the tape? How can I change it?
Hi,
those tapes only hold 20 GB of data. In those cases where you put more on,
maybe you had compression turned on. The density code for compression
off is 0x82, and for compression on is 0x83. These are defined in the
DLT4000 manual somewhere (it took me a while to find them). So, to turn
compression on, rewind the tape to the bottom and type:
mt -f /dev/st0 setdensity 0x83
(assuming that the drive is st0).
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Major RedHat 6.0 Disappointment
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:49:49 GMT
Speaking of BIOS, i've had major problems whenever my bios had
video/video bios cacheable enabled.
Eric
> I once had such an incident and solved it by going into CMOS and
shutting
> off any BIOS shadowing. This may not solve the problem, but it may.
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
>
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From: Graffiti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 15 Jul 1999 10:50:53 -0700
In article <7mjrqa$3pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Kulisz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip lots and lots of dates]
Hmm.... since this is in the comp.* groups, I assume this is really
a subtle commentary on the way computers (judging from the headers,
Linux and M$ Windows in particular) represent time?
>Settled down from what? Settled down from the aftermath of the wars
>you bonehead.
Note: Insults don't help to get your point across (assuming you have one).
>>down. It's just every attempt of socialism/communism eventually
>>evolves into Soviet system. This pertains as much Jamestown
>>where they introduced totalist rule "who does not work, does
>
>Do you even realize that you've just described capitalism as
>totalitarian?
May I recommend a dictionary? Webster, Random House, Oxford, etc.?
>>not eat" as much as Russia or any other country. Communism
>>is perpetuum mobile and you're 'alternative physicist' who
>>ignores laws of conservation of energy. It never works.
>
>It's never been *tried* on a large scale you shithead. You
>clearly don't know the first thing about communism if you
>have to repeat the old american propaganda.
Note: Insults don't help to get your point across (even though you don't have
one. :-)
-- DN
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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation (from harddrive) failure
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:24:59 GMT
What kind of filesystem do you have on the hard drive where
you copied the CD image to? If it's good old FAT, and if you copied
stuff from the CD using windows/Doze, I'm sure the long names of
files/directories have been truncated to miscros~1 doze style (8.3 or
just 8 in uppercase)..
That could confuse the Caldera installation utility - when it
starts looking for the files to install..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Unable to make the Caldera distribution see my SCSI CD-ROM during
> installation, I am tried to install from a hard drive copy of the
> Caldera CD-ROM. Everything went smoothly until the copying of RPM's
> began. The first file copy failed with a completely scrambled error
> message like: "unable to copy Dev-3.filei.not.found". The next copy
> failed with "unable to copy file 'unknown'". What's going on, and what
> should I do? Please reply e-mail to <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Chattin)
Subject: Re: My HDD crashed, now what?
Date: 15 Jul 1999 14:49:38 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Unfortunately, I don't believe that my Compaq didn't come with a true Win95
: disk, but with one of those recovery cd's that repartitions your entire hard
: drive. Getting Win95 back may be tough, since I believe that I'll have to
: reinstall all my Win95 software, I don't believe that the stuff will work if
: you just restore it off a backup tape. My last backup of my Windows partition
: was done several months ago.
: --
Check and see if you have a "Windows95 Companion CD" (Not sure if that is
the correct name). It should contain the Windows95 install. You can
also use it when upgrading to Windows98 if you want to install to a blank
HD. (I personally had some difficulty upgrading win95 to win98, and
had to use this method. Games, gotta' have the games. ^_^ )
Jonathan
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From: Craig Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie problem...surprise
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:52:21 -0500
I cannot find the way to set the default path on my machine. Do not
know what file it is in or how to change it...looked in apropos path and
found nothing...or in any of the HOW-TOs that I have seen. Please help!
Thanks in advance,
Craig Stewart
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From: Andrew Arbon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can someone recommend....
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:10:43 +0100
Hello,
Can someone recommend me a good offline news reading program and a good
email editor for X windows, please?
Many thanks,
--
Andrew Arbon
A bus station is where a bus stops.
A train station is where a train stops.
On my desk I have an NT work station.....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Calvin Ostrum)
Subject: Re: Is CD-R usuable as backup medium on Linux?
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:44:16 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow) wrote:
| On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:08:24 +0100,
| gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >buy a "big" but cheap IDE drive. Spend some bucks on a 18 gig, or maybe
| >a 10gig monster. (If your system is small, then go for even smaller).
| >
| >plug it in, and back-up and compress the backup to the new disk. This
| >should allow for a number of backups to the same disk. It is not
| >necessarily a good thing, but it is better than nothing. Frankly, I am
| >intending to get a cheapish IDE disk (I use SCSI moslty), just for
| >backup.
|
| The CDR is possibly even cheaper than this technique, and doesn't have
| the problem accidently doing ``something'' to the big drive and
| destroying it. It is highly effective and maybe convenient too if you
| want to back up an entire system.
This is the reason I want to use CD-R's, but I cannot afford a drive.
(But note that you could "do ``something''" to the CD-R's also if you
are not careful).
| >just a thought. you will end up spending a fortune at a third party
| >backup "place".
Everybody is putting quotes around "place"... I just don't get it!
| The CDR has a high entry price, but usage is fairly cheap, $3 a gigabyte
| or so (HDs are going for $15 or so a gigabyte). Spend the money up
| front to save later....
Well, let me explain my own backup strategy. I have three IDE
drives of various sizes, and a ZIP drive. I use both Windows 95
and Linux. My Windows 95 is on floppies, and a few old programs for
it are on floppies also. My aim is to place a complete minimal core
for Windows onto a CD-R so I can restore it very easily should I have
a problem. The core of my Linux system, on the other hand, can be
reinstalled from my RH CD's, a number of downloaded rpm's and tgz's,
and a number of my own rpm's and tgz's. I am mostly concerned with
being able to install a core system after a problem, and save my
crucial fast changing data which doesn't amount to much.
So, the core system on CD's is not going to change soon (when it
does, it will be a new version RH or other Linux distribution), and
I back up my crucial data now using the various IDE disks (one outside
the case, also used for transport to backup service) and ZIP disks.
I don't intend backing up the core stuff very often at all.
So I think my system is pretty reasonable, given the constraints that
I can't afford any other major piece of equipment at all. My main
concern is to save the Windows 95 core in an easy to use form before
the floppies give out.
And right now, my current main concern is the 24X Creative Labs
CDROM drive I just bought this morning. It seems to work okay once a
disk is mounted, but it's damn hard getting it mounted. Same thing is
true in DOS, Windows 95, and Linux. Don't know why, and will
probably return it if I can't figure it out. (Although it sure
is nice to have 24x browsing the Encyclopedia Britannica instead of
2x).
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Calvin Ostrum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Freedom is a pain in the Burridan's Ass -- Rebecca Goldstein
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: Full Paths
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:37:39 GMT
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:04:06 -0500, Russ wrote:
>I either don't understand the answers or I didn't ask the quetion properly.
>If I change directories into a directory such as " cd /usr/russ/" then once
>inside the directory there is a program called fast, when i type "fast" it
>says "bash: fast: command not found" but if I type "/usr/russ/fast" the
>program will work. I don't see why I should have to add /usr/russ to the
>path, if in side the directory wanting to run the program. I have never had
>this problem till my recent upgrade.
When you want to run a program within a directory - type ./prog_name
BTW - following the standards of binary placement, binaries should be placed
into a "bin" directory. Usually /usr/local/bin for installed programs.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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From: "Faisal Nasim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar not packing files starting with "."
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 23:41:34 +0500
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: You are using tar cvf file.tar *. Try typing 'echo *'. See? The shell
: doesn't include dot files in the * expansion. Use tar cvf file.tar .
Thanx!
--
Use the force, read the source!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.lynx
Subject: Re: VERY SEXY STUFF 72476
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:41:36 GMT
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:30:09 -0400, Devoid wrote:
>> >ADULTS!
>> >
>> >Click the link below:
{sigh} When you follow up to these moron's postings - would you all atleast
remember to remove the URL? He gets enough advertising in without us helping
him out.
>> This fellow seems convinced BBnPlanet and the Nuie Registry are not going
>> to bother him any. Please ask [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> what is going on.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] too!
I've already sent a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Two, in fact) and got an
automated response assuring me that there would be a human reading the
message, and that I'd see a human response within 24 hours.
If I don't get a response, I fully intend to send a copy of the message (in
the first newsgroup I see it), once daily, to all three of [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and [EMAIL PROTECTED] until ONE of them assures me
that this joker is permanantly banned from their services.
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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