Linux-Misc Digest #78, Volume #20 Thu, 6 May 99 02:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion? (Danny Aldham)
Re: Kernel 2.2.7 ("Tim Green")
floppy permissions (Ort Man)
Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage (Andrew Comech)
Re: Kernel 2.2.7 (Jeff Japes)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Christopher
Browne)
Re: floppy permissions ("Spud")
Re: users again >:( (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: lilo overwritten by windows (Donn Miller)
Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch???? (brian moore)
Re: 3c905b-tx fast etherlink xl pci (Ken Williams)
Re: ntpd ("Dmitry Melekhov")
using AMD K6 in a heavily loaded web server??? ("stephen")
svga-3.3.3 and no X-Blanking? (Eric Wick)
Re: yeh right (Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?) (Vincent Zweije)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Danny Aldham)
Subject: Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion?
Date: 5 May 1999 02:12:24 GMT
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I have been using vmware for a week, and was blown away at first.
But now I am having doubts. I find that networking is really slow
from the virtual machine (about 15% normal speed), and I wonder
how to justify to my boss that he spend $200. so I can save the
bother of dual-booting my machine. I will probably let the 30 day
license expire and remove it, unless I can get it cheaper.
--
Danny Aldham Postino Dotcom E-mail for Business
www.postino.com Virtual Servers, Mail Lists, Web Databases, SQL & Perl
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From: "Tim Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.act.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.7
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 03:19:43 GMT
The link below is an excellent step-by-step upgrade how-to. I used it and
it went flawlessly (well, almost - I made some typos). However, I'd
probably upgrade to RedHat 6.0 instead now that it is available.
http://www.redhat.com/corp/support/docs/kernel-2.2/kernel2.2-upgrade.html
Dirk Demuynck wrote in message <7gqcrf$eom$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>Can someone tell me how to upgrade from RH5,2 kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.7. I
have
>the file but do not know how to begin.
>
>
>
>
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From: Ort Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: floppy permissions
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 22:35:24 -0600
Hi all!
I've been messing around with Linux for a few months and one thng I
still don't understand is how to give user mount privilege. I don't have
a printer and use word processing a lot for school and need to put stuff
on disk.
As user if I "su" over to root I can mount floppy and get stuff off of a
disk but can't save to disk. How do I give my user self access?
Changing stuff in fstab doesn't seem to do anything.
Also if anybody knows anything; What's up with Gnome1.0's mount applet?
even as root I get this error:
Drive mount command failed
"mount /mnt/floppy 2>&1" reported
mount /mnt/fd0 is not valid block device.
Questions questions questions....
Thanks Jullian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Boycott Intel on your own webpage
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 May 1999 00:51:53 -0500
On Wed, 5 May 1999 22:16:58 -0400, Bill Frisbee wrote:
>
>Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> Bill F. Proud Owner of Pentium III Dual Even,
>> why would not _you_ get the F. out of here?
>>
>
>No, last time I checked one of my systems was running Linux. As these are
>Linux groups, I have every right to post here
Do you really think that you have twice as many rights on these newsgroups
since you run Linux on a _dual_ system?
>and talk smack back to people
>who claim Intel is doing the public wrong.
Intel _is_ doing the public wrong (not only because of introducing PSN).
And, you were not talking smack _back_; you were just talking smack.
We can certainly argue whether posting those warnings in the newsgroup (not
for the first time) is appropriate or not, and actually I think it _is_
appropriate, because public awareness of PSN is very important (this is the
only way to avoid the widest up to date invasion of privacy).
Truly, I think this warning is more appropriate for linux.hardware, but
not quite -- for linux.misc.
>Last time I checked you all had IP addresses, MAC addresses
>and some like Sun boxes and several other Uber
>processor machines had serial numbers.
You _think_ there is no difference between the above numbers and the
PSN thing. I _think_ you are wrong. Let me try to justify my point of view:
MAC addresses are only relevant when we are talking about MAC users, IP
numbers are usually dynamically-assigned, SUN boxes are not a common thing
at home, and "who's Uber?".
OTOH, when we are talking about "pentium inside", it is more than half
of home computers. In a few years newer pentiums with PSN may infest
more than half of the world. Add here that Intel may force weaker companies
to follow its rules. I agree that one needs a license plate on a car, but I
do not want to have one on my home PC...
I know that one day there could be "you can only post messages in this
newsgroup if you enable the PSN feature of your computer", or "the weather
forecast service is only available to users with a valid PSN", and other
"Enable PSN to enter ..." crap. I just do not want someone to watch me all
the time.
Also, I do not want to pay for a processor one third of what I pay for such
a big thing as a car; there are many reasons to wish that AMD survives.
a.
PS. Believe it or not, my computer runs as well after I remove "pentium inside"
sticker; it just does not need that sticker to run!
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Japes)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.act.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.7
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:14:22 GMT
On Wed, 5 May 1999 23:23:18 +0200, "Dirk Demuynck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can someone tell me how to upgrade from RH5,2 kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.7. I have
>the file but do not know how to begin.
Dirk,
Check out RedHat's easy to follow upgrading your kernel page..
http://www2.portal.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/kernel-2.2/kernel2.2-upgrade.html
Make sure you read it fully, and remember to upgrade the various rpm
packages. You might also like to check out the Kernel HOWTO, which
should be on your RedHat CD.
Regards.
--
Jeff Japes
http://www.wylm.demon.co.uk/
Real Email: replace nospam with wylm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 03:29:44 GMT
On 4 May 1999 22:01:41 GMT, Craig Dowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>CD> It seems to me that when free markets are removed, _that's_ when
>>CD> you need to start worrying. It's been proved over, and over, and
>>CD> over again.
>>
>>no such thing as a free market, better start worrying.
>
>Oh really? How do you define free market?
>I define a free market economic system as one in which individuals,
>rather than government, make most of the decisions about economic
>activities and transactions. The government gets involved only to
>provide public goods like defense, schools and police. Government also
>performs a regulatory role in certain circumstances. The Government is
>more involved than I'd prefer nowadays, but we certainly don't have a
>command economy.
The contention is probably about how free it really is.
The "no such thing as a free market" claim tends to go on about how
they're not *perfectly* free, then they're not free at all.
Reality is that there can't be enough trades going on to provide a
"theoretically and totally free market."
There are places where there is enough coercion involved in trading that
those markets are only minimally free.
The fact that if you go to one of the mega-stores to buy a computer, it
is difficult to buy a computer without a Microsoft OS pre-installed,
represents an example of "limited freedom" that supports the notion that
"total freedom" is unavailable.
But the approximations that we can get, whereby we can find, without
*grave* difficulty, vendors selling things that we *do* want to buy,
indicates that there does exist a useful amount of freedom in the
marketplace.
We have neither markets that are "ultimately" free, nor a total command
economy, but something in between.
>>the liberal doctrines you espouse developed in the 18th & 19th century
>>just as the reality they attempted to describe was transforming them
>>into nonsense. yes, a worker is free not to work, but this is more or
>>less the freedom to starve to death.
>
>What in hell are you going off about? Are you bridging off into a
>discussion of the merits of liberal socialism / social democracy?
Probably...
>>There are also many barriers to market entry, such as the need to be
>>compatible with ms word or something.
>
>Sure. You need to have a product someone wants to buy. It may or may
>not need to be compatible with something else. Is that bad? What does
>that have to do with the price of tea in Redmond, anyway?
Those "barriers" can be likened to "transaction costs," which are one of
the legitimate reasons why stock markets are only approximately "free."
If the "barriers" are drastic enough, they can make the economy into a
virtual "command economy." Worries about MSFT becoming a monopoly would
certainly be characteristic of that position.
If the "barriers" are readily overcome in common situations, then the
"approximation to a free market" is useful. Which is why the
Black-Scholes equations, that use (continuous) differential equations to
predict option prices, tend to be "useful enough" even though the real
world involves only discrete transactions and discrete changes in
prices.
But to anti-"free market" political theorists, the fact that the world
is discrete is justification enough to claim that, since the
approximations aren't perfect, "true freedom" doesn't exist.
[The fact that models that take into consideration the discreteness, and
thus are better reflective of reality, come up with results
insignificantly different from the "ideals" such as Black-Scholes, can
also be conveniently ignored. That's just math, and obviously
bourgeois...]
--
"Windows 98 Roast Specialty Blend coffee beans - just like ordinary
gourmet coffee except that processing is rushed to leave in the insect
larvae. Also sold under the ``Chock Full o' Bugs'' brand name..."
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From: "Spud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: floppy permissions
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:02:54 GMT
If you want to have a user be able to mount a device, you have to add
the device in /etc/fstab with the 'user' option. 'man fstab' and 'man mount'
for more info. The reason GNOME won't mount the floppy disk is because the
actuall command that the mount applet runs is "mount /mnt/fd0". There is a
problem with this. The syntax of the mount command says that the only way
you can mount a device by specifying the mount point (/mnt/fd0) is if the
device is in /etc/fstab. However, if you changed the command to 'mount
/dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0' it would work.
>Hi all!
>
>I've been messing around with Linux for a few months and one thng I
>still don't understand is how to give user mount privilege. I don't have
>a printer and use word processing a lot for school and need to put stuff
>on disk.
>As user if I "su" over to root I can mount floppy and get stuff off of a
>disk but can't save to disk. How do I give my user self access?
>Changing stuff in fstab doesn't seem to do anything.
>
>Also if anybody knows anything; What's up with Gnome1.0's mount applet?
>even as root I get this error:
>
>Drive mount command failed
>"mount /mnt/floppy 2>&1" reported
>mount /mnt/fd0 is not valid block device.
>
>Questions questions questions....
>
>Thanks Jullian
>
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: users again >:(
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 05:04:57 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a way to get rid of said users without rebooting?
I heard about a 'timed' or 'idled' program.
Maybe you can use them. (I never tried...)
--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo overwritten by windows
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:02:37 -0400
On Wed, 5 May 1999, Jeffery Cann wrote:
> Donald wrote:
> >
> > i have a dual boot system. something went wrong with windows today, so i
> > had to reinstall. i completely forgot that windows overwrites the mbr
> > and i didn't make a boot disk for linux. any way of restoring lilo?
> > any help is appreciated.
>
> If you are running Slackware, you can make a boot disk. I am sure other
> distros have a bootable diskette option. With Slackware, you can make
> your bootable diskette while running windows using the 'rawrite'
> application.
You can also use the Slackware boot floppy. When the prompt comes up,
just say
mount root=/dev/hda2 <-- use your root partition dev name here.
The instructions are one the first screen. After you've booted, just run
`liloconfig'.
Donn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Linux damaging hardware through kernel patch????
Date: 6 May 1999 04:16:20 GMT
On 6 May 1999 00:37:41 GMT,
William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 03 May 1999 23:19:25 +0200,
> Shaun Schembri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I am a computer technician with quite some years of experience and I am
> >not new to software development but I cannot figure out any method that
> >can be used to induce RF in almost purely digital hardware through a
> >software algorithm. Here are my questions....
>
> Golly, it is downright easy to generate lots of RF in just about any
> digital hardware setup. The typical computer is spewing RF all over
> the band. Just pick up any little AM radio away from your computer,
> tune to an unused part of the band (static) and walk towards your
> powered on computer.
>
> When you get a good signal, try running various commands for amusement,
> switching video modes and so on. I have a video card that breaks
> squelch on 2m on every reboot. Kinda annoying to listen to.
Hey, back in the olden days, that was what we used for sound. (There
was a couple of nifty games for the old Processor Technology SOL system
that used an AM radio for sound. Was so good I never figured out if
they did it intentionally or not (it was in the manual for the games).
PT had, after all, made a sound card that worked by toggling
interrupts off an on and using the resulting changes to the *IE line
on the S100 bus to play sound... even did 4 voices on a 2Mhz 8080.)
Kids these days have it easy.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Re: 3c905b-tx fast etherlink xl pci
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 03:44:20 GMT
In article <7gpv9g$squ$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>has anyone out there got this board to work with slackware 3.5?
I got the 10 mbit version (xl PCI) working under Stampede, it rocks.
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From: "Dmitry Melekhov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ntpd
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:50:24 +0400
Al @Work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7gpbd9$6bs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dmitry,
>
> Try posting to comp.protocols.time.ntp
>
Mmm. As I know, ntp does not work with timezones, this is
problem of OS. Anyway, I'll try :)
Thanks!
> Al
>
> Dmitry Melekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7gp0rf$9ga$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I trying to use ntp 4.
> >
> > when I do:
> >
> > ntpdate -v ntp2.usno.navy.mil.
> > 15 Apr 11:47:50 ntpdate[26372]: ntpdate 4.0.92e ?oa Ai? 15 11:01:41
GMT+4
> > 1999 (
> > 1)
> > 15 Apr 02:47:47 ntpdate[26372]: step time server 192.5.41.209
> > offset -32405.9688
> > 45 sec
> >
> >
> > 02:48:21 GMT+4 1999
> >
> > Why?
> > --
> > Dmitry Melekhov
> > (aka 2:5050/11.23@fidonet)
> > http://www.aspec.ru/~dm
> >
> >
>
>
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From: "stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using AMD K6 in a heavily loaded web server???
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:16:48 -0700
Hello
Anyone using an AMD K6 in their web server?
What is your configuration and how is the
performance under heavy load compare to
Intel?
Thanks
Stephen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wick)
Subject: svga-3.3.3 and no X-Blanking?
Date: 6 May 1999 05:28:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
just changed my x-server from s3 to svga-3.3.3 to get the riva128zx working. It
works well, but now there ist no screenblanking in x after this.
Is this a design-bug?
Bye Eric
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From: Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.security.unix
Subject: Re: yeh right (Re: SUID games? What is RedHat doing?)
Date: 4 May 1999 14:06:23 +0200
In article <7gkmlv$n30$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lamont Granquist wrote:
|| No, the "point" is that during the RedHat install it should pop up a
|| box like this:
||
|| *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING*
||
|| Games in this package are suid root and this may present a
|| security hole. Security conscious administrators should *NOT*
|| install these games.
||
|| Skip installation of this package:
||
|| [YES] No
||
|| *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING* *WARNING*
||
|| That way admins get:
||
|| 1. information to make an informed decision
|| 2. a sensible (secure) default value
As usual, the best way is somewhere in the middle of just doing it and not
informing the user at all, and refusing to install suid-root programs.
IMHO, the installation process (any, not only RedHat's) should not keep
important information from its users, but neither should it refuse a
program when it's dangerous even in many cases.
Unfortunately, for many de-facto-administrators (the newbie RedHat
owners) the warning above is not information but unintelligeable jargon.
They don't have a clear idea of what "security hole" means, and certainly
not what "suid root" means. The most probable effect will be "I don't
understand it, but RedHat will allow me to install it, so it's probably
okay."
I'd try to phrase it like:
WARNING: setuid-root programs
Some programs in this package use increased privileges: they run
with root permissions. Technically: they are setuid-root programs.
Such programs are a possible threat to the security of your computer,
as they may enable crackers to gain root privileges if they have an
account on your computer.
You can install this package if:
* you trust all users on your computer;
* you are not bothered by crackers gaining root privileges and
taking control of your computer.
You must NOT install this packages if:
* you wish to let arbitrary people use your computer;
* you suspect that people could use the network (including
dial-up connections such as PPP) to break into your computer
and get an account on it.
In general, a security conscious administrator will NOT install a
setuid-root program unless it is absolutely necessary.
Do you still wish to install this package [yes/NO]:
This formulation says with as little jargon as possible what the problem
with the package is, and why it is a problem. It also gives some rules
of thumb to the less initiated to determine whether they should install
the package.
It also says what a more knowledgeable person might do, and it uses
a secure default. Both good ideas from the previous poster, Lamont
Granquist.
I admit "account" is interpreted loosely, but you get the idea.
So far. Vincent.
--
Vincent Zweije <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | "If you're flamed in a group you
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~zweije/> | don't read, does anybody get burnt?"
[Xhost should be taken out and shot] | -- Paul Tomblin on a.s.r.
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