Linux-Misc Digest #78, Volume #25                 Sun, 9 Jul 00 00:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. ("Brian")
  Re: kudzu,pcmcia and sound (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Left-Handed Mouse Setup (David Greeson)
  Subject:  ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  Re: Case sensitive (Dave Brown)
  Re: /boot - necessary as separate FS? (Robert Jones)
  Re: Names and Definitions of C functions? (Craig McCluskey)
  Re: Question about ls (Dave Brown)
  Kernel too big ("Victor")
  ps2pdf (Dave Brown)
  ncftpput and warftp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Kernel too big (Dances With Crows)
  gnumeric compilation troubles (xml) (David Grogan)
  RPM 4.0 -- DB Problem (Sean Daugherty)
  Re: Kernel too big ("Victor")
  NIC Blowout???NEWBIE ("Trent Cook")
  Re: Linux Kernel 2.2.16 compilation (Myint)

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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 01:26:07 GMT

Hey C.J.

C.J. wrote in message <39677af7$0$8302$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <ePd95.85661$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brian"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Doesn't Dialpad.com run on the browser in a java virtual machine?
>>Will it not run on Netscape?

>>At any rate, I always have a couple nodes that dual-boot into W98
>>for just such occasions.

>According to thier help section, though it is a java applet, it
>takes advantage of some Windows-specific features/device-drivers
>and will not work on anything other than Windows.  They say they
>have a Mac version under developement, but NONE of the PC-to-phone
>sites I have found have Linux support and if they mention it at
>all it's about how to configure IPMASQ, or to say that they have
>no plans to support Linux.


Ah, oh course. I must not have been thinking - there would be quite a bit of
configuration of the soundcard/modem to enable that kind of service.

Watch freshmeat.net for some brilliant Linux advocate to decipher the Java
configuration applet and convert it to a Linux compatible configuration
script.

>I wish dial-pad.com would work with the Linux community to get
>some kind of support, even if it were something that had to be
>installed.  Lets face it, a great many of us are either cheap,
>or are working-stiff types that will take advantage of a chance
>to save money if we can.

Do what I do, go and buy a copy of Windows from your local friendly pirate,
I paid about $20 for W98.

Best regards,

Brian



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: kudzu,pcmcia and sound
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 01:28:12 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward A. Falk) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Darren Christie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >What kind of hardware are you adding inside of a laptop?  Kudzu is not
> >going to pay any attention to pcmcia.
> 
> Kudzu recognized & configured my modem on first boot, but now I see
> no reason to leave it turned on.
> 
> What's the "proper" way to disable an rc script?  I usually rename
> the file from "S99xxx" to "s99xxx", but I don't know if there's
> a better way.
<snip>

man chkconfig

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: David Greeson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Left-Handed Mouse Setup
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:39:36 -0400

Hi,

Is there away to swap left and right button function so that a mouse
could used by a left-handed person?

TIA,
David


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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Subject: 
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 01:45:26 GMT

Hi,
I have RedHat 6.1 and I run Win Eudora and Win Agent
under Wine without a problem. Today I tried to run
Lview Pro 2.0 under Wine and I got error:
err:win32:DeleteCriticalSection Deleting owned critical section
(0x7803fea8)

Any idea what does it means?
Anyone have any experience runnin Lview under Wine?

Thanks,

Zalek







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Case sensitive
Date: 8 Jul 2000 20:56:57 -0500

On Sat, 08 Jul 2000 17:43:55 GMT, Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) writes:
>> How could I make Bash not case sensitive?
>
>I am afraid you would have to do plenty of modifications to the source.
>Vilmos

And the filesystem, and all utilities which receive options from the 
shell....

There is, however, a shell which is not case-sensitive... COMMAND.COM.
Perhaps that might better suit.  (Only runs on some operating systems, 
though, not Linux.)

-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /boot - necessary as separate FS?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:00:17 -0500

"David .." wrote:

> Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> >
> > Assuming you have a 1.2 GB disk (small these days, but anyway)
> > Would it be OK to just create one 1000M / and a 200M swap
> > without creating an extra 16M /boot partition (REdhat 6.1 I'm
> > talking about).
>
> Yes I have a dual boot system on an 8.1 GB drive and have no /boot
> partition.
>
> The /boot partition isn't really needed unless you are trying to install
> above the 1024th cylinder, in which case the /boot partition is placed
> below the 1024 cylinder. It will place a /boot directory in / if you
> don't dedicate a partition for /boot.
>
> --
> Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538

This seems like a reasonable thread to bring up a question I have.

I'm running RH6.0 with a 2.2.16 kernel I built a couple weeks ago.  My hard
drives look like this:
[root@localhost rj]# /sbin/fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1244 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *         1        64    514048+   6  FAT16
/dev/hda2            65      1242   9462285    f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5            65       319   2048256    6  FAT16
/dev/hda6           320       549   1847443+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda7           550       779   1847443+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda8           780      1009   1847443+   b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda9          1010      1242   1871541    b  Win95 FAT32

Disk /dev/hdc: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1661 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1   *         1         2     16033+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc2             3      1661  13325917+   5  Extended
/dev/hdc5             3         3      8001   82  Linux swap
/dev/hdc6             4      1661  13317853+  83  Linux
[root@localhost rj]#

 In the process of trying to develop myself a procedure for easily
restoring from tape, I booted in rescue mode and did all the stuff
necessary to mount hdc1 and hdc6.
The strange thing I noticed is that if I mount only hdc6, I have a /boot
directory that contains stuff related to my old (2.2.5-15) kernel but none
of the new stuff.  However, if I mount only hdc1, I find all of the same
files *plus* vmLinuz-2.2.14 and vmLinuz-2.2.16.  Obviously, a normal boot
from the hard drive loads the kernel from hdc1, else I wouldn't be running
2.2.16 right now.

Apparently, this goofy situation isn't really hurting anything except my
mind.  What would happen if I again booted up rescue, mounted hdc6 and
removed that unused directory. Keep in mind that this discovery came from
trying to work out a simple procedure for restoring from tape -- not as the
result of a search for a means of necessitating the use of that procedure!
Does "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" apply?



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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Names and Definitions of C functions?
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 21:05:55 -0500

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

> Aren't you thinking about this backward? You don't install
> random code and then wonder what's in it (like 99% of 
> people .. :-).

I actually thought I was thinking about this forward.
If one wants to write complex C code, it would be helpful
to know what tools are at one's disposal.

Since posting, I did find:

The GNU C Library - Table of Contents - 
        GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)</A>

at http://www.gnu.org/manual/glibc-2.0.6/libc.html

This seems to be what we want. Know of anything better?

Craig

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Question about ls
Date: 8 Jul 2000 21:15:32 -0500

On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 17:25:21 -0500, Andrew N. McGuire  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 8 Jul 2000, Andrew Onifer quoth:
>
>[] >Use the "find" command.  Do "man find" to learn about it.
>[] >The command you want would be something like this:
>[] >   find . -name *.zip
>[] 
>[] Correction:  It should be 
>[]     find . -name "*.zip"
>[] 
>[] Without the quotes, the asterisk will get passed to the shell.
>
>Correction: no it won't. ( depending on your shell )
>
>Works just fine in tcsh anyway.

Most shells will leave the wildcard alone if there's no match.  I 
suspect tcsh behaves that way, too.  But, in case there's a match
in the current directory, you should quote it.

(Command lines always get passed to the shell.  Perhaps what was meant:
"Without quotes, the asterisk will be 'interpreted by' the shell".)

-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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From: "Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel too big
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 02:17:50 GMT

I get the following error when I do 'make zImage' to compile new kernel

Root device is (3, 1)
Boot sector 512 bytes.
Setup is 1308 bytes.
System is 580 kB
System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
make[1]: *** [zImage] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [zImage] Error 2
cobra[/usr/src/linux]# make bzImage

The kernel only includes networking and one sound module. Why would it be
too big. make bzImage worked fine. I am just curious why this error
occurs??? I've seen on IRIX a kernel can be 10 megs. My bsd kernel was 2
megs. Why is this error happening? Is there a setting I can set?

Thanks for your help
Victor



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: ps2pdf
Date: 8 Jul 2000 21:23:55 -0500

I'm trying to create some .pdf files for a presentation which will 
use acroread as the screen show application. 

WordPerfect8 for Linux will allow me to save a Postscript file.  It looks
good when I print out that Postscript file.  But after passing it through 
the ps2pdf utility, the resulting .pdf file looks pretty bad.

Is there any way to tweak ps2pdf?  I've seen Postscript renderings that 
looked bad if the settings were for a printer of poor resolution.  Is 
that what's happening here?  Could it be a font problem?  (I was using 
a couple of the WP for Linux fonts, Courier-WP and Roman-WP.)

-- 
Dave Brown  Austin, TX

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ncftpput and warftp
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 02:23:21 GMT

Hello all.  I'm using ncftpput on RedHat 6.2 and am trying to upload files to
an NT box running WarFTP.  After issuing the ncftpput command (ncftpput -u
username -p password hostname remote-directory file) it successfully connects
to the NT box but transfers at something like 100 B/s.

When I try uploading files from the linux box using the standard ftp command,
transfers occur at 877 kb/s (according to `ftp`).

Any ideas?

Thanks for your help.

-Tosh


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: 08 Jul 2000 22:45:32 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 02:17:50 GMT, Victor 
<<ihR95.29514$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>System is 580 kB
>System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
>The kernel only includes networking and one sound module. Why would it be
>too big. make bzImage worked fine. I am just curious why this error
>occurs??? I've seen on IRIX a kernel can be 10 megs. My bsd kernel was 2
>megs. Why is this error happening? Is there a setting I can set?

zImage and bzImage use two different methods of loading themselves into
memory when they are read directly from disk during the boot process.  The
method used for zImage has a size limit of 512K for the compressed
image.  BTW, zImage itself will be deprecated soon--check the latest
Kernel Traffic at http://kt.linuxcare.com/latest.epl to hear what the
developers have to say.

Also, I've noticed that LILO version 21 can't seem to deal well with
kernels made with zImage... says "kernel too big".  Kernels made with
bzImage work fine.  Strange, but I can live with it....

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
 \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: David Grogan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnumeric compilation troubles (xml)
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 22:53:27 -0400

I've been trying to compile gnumeric 0.56 for a while now, I've run into
and fixed a whole bunch of problems so far, but the error I get when
I run the ./configure script is as follows:

checking for xmlNewDoc in -lxml... Unknown library `xml'
no
configure: error: Could not link sample xml program

In the README, it says it needs gnome-xml 1.8.7.  I looked around and
couldn't find this one in particular, but it seemed that gnome-xml is
the same thing as libxml, so I installed libxml 1.8.7.  I then ran
/sbin/ldconfig, deleted config.cache and tried again, but no luck.  Can
anyone tell me if gnome-xml and libxml are the same thing, or how
I would go about fixing this?  Thanks a lot, and thanks to the people
who have helped me so far.

Dave


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From: Sean Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM 4.0 -- DB Problem
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 22:52:36 -0500

Hello again, all. I was recently attempting to install RPM version 4.0 on
my machine (which came with version 3.05 as packaged in Red Hat 6.2). All
goes well, until, that is, the thing actually gets installed. Then it
complains that packages.rpm is in db1 format, and to upgrade it by running
"rpm --rebuilddb" as root. I do so. Then, it complains that librpm.so.0
has an undefined symbol db3New. I have the most recent version of
BerkeleyDB I could find  installed (3.1), as well as gdbm 0.8. It's rather
confounding, and also somewhat crippling: I can always go back to the
version packaged with Red Hat, since I was wise enough to back up first,
but I need the updated version to install a number of RPMs I have.

Anyone have any idea/tips on solving this little problem?

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From: "Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel too big
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:04:43 GMT

Ooh, I see. So the problem is with the compression routines that zImage
uses? Ok. bzImage suits me just fine as well, I was just curious why it
failed. They should update the output make menuconfig makes because the
instruction it gave was make zImage.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up.

"Dances With Crows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 02:17:50 GMT, Victor
> <<ihR95.29514$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the
ether:
> >System is 580 kB
> >System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
> >The kernel only includes networking and one sound module. Why would it be
> >too big. make bzImage worked fine. I am just curious why this error
> >occurs??? I've seen on IRIX a kernel can be 10 megs. My bsd kernel was 2
> >megs. Why is this error happening? Is there a setting I can set?
>
> zImage and bzImage use two different methods of loading themselves into
> memory when they are read directly from disk during the boot process.  The
> method used for zImage has a size limit of 512K for the compressed
> image.  BTW, zImage itself will be deprecated soon--check the latest
> Kernel Traffic at http://kt.linuxcare.com/latest.epl to hear what the
> developers have to say.
>
> Also, I've noticed that LILO version 21 can't seem to deal well with
> kernels made with zImage... says "kernel too big".  Kernels made with
> bzImage work fine.  Strange, but I can live with it....
>
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the
face
> \----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and
still
>  \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So
did
> But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or
Usenetters?" --/me



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From: "Trent Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NIC Blowout???NEWBIE
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:27:28 GMT


Hi,

I have a linux system running.  Had a VERY basic ipchains script running
fine, with a machine inside of the linux box.  I was surfing through it fine
last night at 12:00, then at 6:30 this morning I notice something died.  Odd
seeing as how it had only been a few hours, the machine wasnt even rebooted,
let alone changed in any way at all.

What I noticed is this error:
eth0: transmit timed out, status 0073, resetting

I can ping the 127.0.0.1 address, (from local machine of course) but cant
even ping either of the ip addys from the installed nics, let alone any
address on the internet.

I have tried rebooting, restarting network, disabling ipchains altogether,
altering ip addys and configs, etc.

Please let me know if you have seen this happen, or if I should just
reinstall.  Hopefully not as it is an odd error, and I would hate for it to
happen again.

I have two different nics installed and both were working fine, now
everything seems to be blasted? (pcnet32 and 8390 {ne2k-pci})
When I lsmod both modules for the NICs are still loading up fine as well.

I appreciate ANY feedback you can offer, or any tips at all.


Trent



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From: Myint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Kernel 2.2.16 compilation
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:30:05 GMT


Karthi Thyagarajan wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am currently running kernel version 2.2.14.  And, I just downloaded
> the linux 2.2.16 kernel and compiled it in the standard way.  I copied
> the bzImage file to the /boot directory and I also made sure to setup
> the new image for loading by loadlin.  The kernel does boot up
> successfully - however, it complains about unresolved symbols during
> startup.  Swap doesn't get activated and things in general don't work
> the same as they used to with the old kernel.
> 
> I created a .config file using the old kernel (2.2.14) and used it to do
> a 'menu oldconfig' so the I would only have to provide answers to
> options in the new kernel;  but things don't work like they used to.  My
> machine is an 800Mhz PIII running RH6.2.  The steps I followed are
> listed below:
> 
> COMPILATION:
> make oldconfig
> make clean
> make dep
> make bzImage
> make modules
> make modules_install
> 
> Everything compiles fine (after a little bit of tweaking - new links...
> directories.. etc.)
> 
> I copied bzImage to /boot and to the appropriate windows directory to be
> used by "loadlin".  I don't think "loadlin" is the problem, because the
> kernel does load.  What I don't understand is why things don't work the
> same as they did with the old kernel - since I'm using the old kernel's
> .config file.  I'm thinking that I'm missing some steps in the module
> setup process.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> -Karthi.
> 

Hay!Karthi,

I did it too from to 2.2.6. When I saw this I went back and look at my 
notes. I am still learning. I don't really know how linux's link work, 
physically or logically, whether you rename or replace or new linux. 
Accordind to the instructions before the configuration your link  should be 
include/asm-i386 as asm. After that include/asm asm. Things added from 
release to release.

Hope it will help.
Myint

 

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