Linux-Misc Digest #78, Volume #19 Thu, 18 Feb 99 01:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: SMC Ethernet cards (Zailong Bian)
Where to get an internal V.90 modem (Andrew Comech)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused ("David Z. Maze")
Re: does people use console or X ? ("David Z. Maze")
Re: Unable to delete nasty file (Alex Sanderson)
emacs at X (Sarantos Kapidakis)
Re: mounting problem (Bob Hauck)
Re: Source versus RPMs (KA)
Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused ("Jeraimee")
Re: Questions about glibc2 (Johan Kullstam)
Error writing headers to "/tmp/elv_1f1.1" ("Aswin F. van Woudenberg")
Re: S3 Savage 3D ???
Anonymous Unions with gcc ("Dave Williams @ Home")
Only root can create a file??? ("Laurie Weibel")
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
From: Zailong Bian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMC Ethernet cards
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 04:00:42 GMT
The PCI card should use rtl8139 driver.
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Rich Cloutier wrote:
> If you're using RH 5.x, use the generic WD8013 driver at the end of the
> list. It works with my SMC ethercards (not sure if they're the same chip or
> not)
>
> Rich Cloutier
> Myke Morgan wrote in message ...
> >Hi.I am trying to get an ethernet network up and running on my two
> >machines. Naturally, I bought the cheapest cards at the store. They were:
> >
> >SMC 'EZ Card 10/100' Fast Ethernet PCI Card and
> >SMC 'EZ Card 10' Ethernet ISA Card
> >
> >I got the two different ones because one machine does not have PCI slots.
> >
> >ANyway, I cannot seem to locate an appropriate driver for either of them.
> >None of the SMC drivers work (the card is never even recognized at boot
> >time). I looked at the www site: cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/ and could
> >not find anything for these cards, even though I think it said all major
> >cards released through 1/1999 were supported. The ISA card claims to be
> >NE2000 compatible, but that did not work either.
> >
> >Has anyone else gotten these to work, or should I try to find different
> >cards?
> >
> >TIA,
> >myke
> >
> >--
> >Write Once, Debug Everywhere
> >
>
>
>
>
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From: Andrew Comech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where to get an internal V.90 modem
Date: 17 Feb 1999 22:44:30 -0500
Hi,
I just received an internal AOpen FM56-ITU modem: It is an
internal V.90 K56Flex ISA modem, jumper configurable, no PnP.
It has Rockwell RCVDL56ACFW/SP chipset. It is indeed a decent
hardware modem which worked in Linux right away.
In my countryside, I connect at 44000bps. I wonder whether one
could get more than that.
The modem was ordered from www.877PCPARTS.com, phone 888 993-5528.
Their web site sucks: it only mentions an internal K56 ISA modem
with no other details. Not to mention that this is just unreadable
with lynx. One has to call to make sure that he/she is buying this
particular model, AOpen FM56-ITU, with this particular Rockwell
chipset RCVDL56ACFW/SP. The price is $41 plus $9 for shipping.
References:
http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
http://www.aopenusa.com/products/modem/fm56itu.htm
http://www.877pcparts.com/
Please post a followup if you know where to get cheaper modems
which would work under Linux; AFAIK, all V.90 modems which are below
$30 on PriceWatch are winmodems.
Cheers,
Andrew
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:17:40 -0500
Followup pointed to the only truly relevant group, comp.os.linux.misc,
and return address in citation corrected. Please avoid gratuitous
crossposts and post with a valid From: line.
P G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
P> Is gnome working with kde or are two products aiming in the same
P> direction?
They are two entirely separate projects with similar goals. DejaNews
should be able to find most of the traditional GNOME vs. KDE flame
wars without too much trouble. :-)
P> Bottom line: Any suggestions on which desktop environment is best?
P> and how I choose which one to run? I am overwhelmed with options,
P> please help me understand them.
I think GNOME 0.99.3 is reasonably stable, but I've never used KDE.
The best thing to do is install both, try them, pick one, and if you
need the disk space back uninstall the one you don't use.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: does people use console or X ?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:26:50 -0500
Finnskoga W�rdshus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
FW> I am pretty new to this but I just wounder Does you people usually
FW> hang around in console mode or have you all instaled X?
X is *extremely* useful in my environment; I spend a lot of time
remotely logged into my machine, and X's network transparency is a big
win for me. (See the Remote-X-Apps mini-HOWTO for details on how to
set this up.) Most serious GUI programs run under X, and most
reasonable console-mode programs run equally well in an xterm.
FW> Anoter one... If I install Xfree (X11 or wht it is called) vill I
FW> nead an extra prog ontop of that like KDE, Gnome or Windowmaker or
FW> is it the same..
Pieces:
-- X server: accepts connections from somewhere and displays stuff on
a screen. It's possible to have a machine that's just a keyboard,
a screen, a network connection, and an X server, with all of the
actual programs running elsewhere; such a machine is called an "X
terminal".
-- X clients: programs that talk to X servers and actually do things.
These include xterm, Emacs, Netscape, ...
-- Window manager: a special X client that is responsible for drawing
window decorations (title bars and the like). Some will drop
things on your desktop. Some are flashier than others. These
range from the bare-bones twm to the chrome-filled Enlightenment,
including fvwm*, AfterStep, and WindowMaker along the way.
-- Desktop Environment (TM): a collection of purportedly useful
programs with a consistent look and feel that try to make X a
friendlier place to be. The two major freeish ones are KDE and
GNOME.
For a standalone machine with X, you need an X server for your
hardware, the generic X clients, and some window manager. In the
general case your choice of X server, window manager, and application
are completely independent: any program can run on any X server using
any window manager. My suggestion, particularly if you're using a
distribution with a working package manager, is to try all of the
window managers that sound interesting and pick one you like.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: Alex Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to delete nasty file
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:19:34 +1100
Don't worry I seem to have fixed it with debugfs
Let me know if I have done something stupid
thanks
Alex
Alex Sanderson wrote:
> I have a horrible file which has appeared after a bad file system
> crash. The file has user 27851 and group 58345 and its permissions are
> s--s-wSrw- . Its size is 9000 odd GB and I cannot chmod it or chown it
> and I have tried creating users with the right number and groups with
> the right number. It think I need to edit the inode but I don't know
> how to do it.
>
> thanks
> Alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sarantos Kapidakis)
Subject: emacs at X
Date: 18 Feb 1999 04:54:57 GMT
I cannot use my emacs under X - anymore: emacs aborts with a message:
Wrong type argument: arrayp, nil
I look at the files changes on my computer recently, and I cannot
figure out why this happens.
When i call "emacs -nw", emacs runs without problem.
Also, "emacs -q" does not change the situation.
I reinstalled emacs (emacs-20.3-3 rpm - I have redhat 5.2),
I tried with different kernel versions (2.0.36 and 2.2.1), different
window managers (kde1.1 and fvwm2), but did not help.
I run XFree86*-3.3.3.1-1.
Although I run recent software, that I upgrade regularly, the last
upgrade was 2 weeks before I start having problems with emacs (and
I use emacs all day long).
I looked for changed in the shared libraries that emacs is using,
on recently changed files, etc - no clue.
If you have an idea of what may be the problem, or you know of a
similar case, please inform me.
thank you
sarantos
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: mounting problem
Date: 18 Feb 1999 04:43:09 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
ManKee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [mntent]: line 0 in /etc/fstab is bad
What's in /etc/fstab?
--
21:30:00 up 81 days, 9:22, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.05
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From: KA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Source versus RPMs
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:47:35 +0000
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From: "Jeraimee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: KDE? Gnome? ... confused
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:47:45 -0500
I'm not sure of the tie-in of Gnome and KDE but I just switched to KDE after
Next and AfterStep (After was possibly the nicest of the default managers).
KDE as changed my use of Linux, now even my 6 year old daughter isn't afraid
to use the system, she runs netstat when I am working on the network, card
games, paints, writes letters, prints... totally different than before, she
was lost (as was the wife).
KDE would be my suggestion.
Jeraimee
P.G. wrote in message <7af0be$d10$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>OK here is a question. I used linux sometime ago, always using fvwm. Now I
>installed RH5.2 on my new machine. I am trying to figure out which desktop
>manager to use. KDE seems nice, and I like the drag and drop capabilities
>(which I think it has?). Now when Rh was installing I saw that gnome was an
>option and I installed it.
>
>Is gnome working with kde or are two products aiming in the same direction?
>
>Bottom line: Any suggestions on which desktop environment is best? and how
I
>choose which one to run?
>I am overwhelmed with options, please help me understand them.
>
>Thanks,
>Panos
>
>
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Questions about glibc2
Date: 17 Feb 1999 12:54:55 -0500
Bruno Barberi Gnecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello everybody.
>
> I once tried to install glibc2 here, but the result was a mess, and
> I just came back to libc5. I'm willing to install it again, but I have some
> questions:
>
> a) things like ncurses and slang should be recompiled with glibc2. What about
> programs that use them as libraries and were compiled with libc5? Will them
> work with the new library? if not, is there a workaround other than recompile
> them all?
no. everything should be migrated to a new library. yes, it *is*
painful.
you *can* have libc5 and libc6 things around but this just adds bloat
and makes for confusion. you can have libc5 and libc6 together in
/lib and /usr/lib. but what will you do with all the other libraries?
for example, ldd expects libslang.so to be called libslang.so. it's
hard to retrofit libc5 apps (well, you could, but at that point why
not recompile for libc6?) you will need two versions of all shared
libraries (one libc5 and one libc6) and these have to live in
different directories.
you will need to configure gcc to link with the right set. you will
need to make legacy applications look in the right places for their
shared libs.
> b) What's the best way to install? the previous time I followed the HOWTO,
> but it wasn't clear about c++ stuff (and other stuff), but it let me
> uninstall very easily. (I don't want to buy new CD's)
i'd recommend buying a libc6 based distribution. save your own stuff
in /home and configuration in /etc. scavange the disk for anything
else you want to keep. blow everything else away. let someone else
do the work this time.
if you don't want to redo the installation, i'd say stick with libc5.
if you *insist* on doing it the hard way. imho the best way to
migrate libraries is with two partitions. you make a cross-compiler
from libc5 to libc6 and start recompiling and stuffing the results in
the new partition. once you acheive critical mass in the new
partition, try to boot from it and continue compiling and bringing
over old programs.
> c) What about the stability? I read that 2.1 is very stable, is it true?
> When 2.1 will be released again?
i have no idea.
> d) any further advices?
get a libc6 distribution or stick with libc5.
--
johan kullstam
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From: "Aswin F. van Woudenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Error writing headers to "/tmp/elv_1f1.1"
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:12:16 +0100
hi,
I have a problem,...
When a user on my linux system wants to use vi, exempli gratia:
vi text.txt
It returns the following error:
Error writing headers to "/tmp/elv_1f1.1"
elv_1f1.1 is created in /tmp and has size 0
What's wrong?
When root tries the same thing, everything works fine...
the day before yesterday it worked for all users....
any suggestions..?
Thanks in advance,
Aswin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: S3 Savage 3D ???
Date: 18 Feb 1999 05:36:47 GMT
On Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:47:19 +0100, M. Kluit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have RedHat 5.1 installed on my iP233MMX/64Mb/4.3Gb
>and I have a Hercules Terminator Beast.
>
>I can't get Xwindows running at more than 640x480 with 16 colors.
>On the Beast is a S3 Savage 2D/3D chipset and 8Mb SGRAM.
>that's all I know about the card...
>
>Does anyone know how I can make this Beast work properly? (i.e. max
>1600x1200x32bpp)
>thanks.
How are you starting X? Are you using: startx -- -bpp16 or higher?
---
"I will have the most ethical administration in history."
Bill Clinton; Nov. 1992
Yeah, right....
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From: "Dave Williams @ Home" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anonymous Unions with gcc
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:09:35 +0000
I am porting some software from Microsoft VC++ 4.2 to gcc and have
encountered a problem with anonymous union structures of the type:
typedef struct {
union {
unsigned long Flags;
struct {
unsigned word first :1;
unsigned word second :1;
// etc for other bits
} ;
} ;
} thing ;
The compiler generates the warning
"unamed struct/union that defines no instances"
during processing the h file and the error
"structure has no member named "first""
when you try to refer to the field as a member of the parent struct
Is there an option flag or other way I can get round this without having
to add tags to each of the union components and add this to each
reference in the code?
I thought that it was now an accepted part of the C language.
Dave
--
Dave Williams @ Home
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From: "Laurie Weibel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Only root can create a file???
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:42:57 -0500
I just installed RH Linux 5.1, and I seem to have a problem creating a file
with any user account other than root. If I do....
ls -al > outfile
I get an error message: "ls: write error: no space left on device."
The file is created, with a zero length. If I su to root, this command works
and writes the file, so there IS room on the disk.
Also, if I do vi <newfile> I get a swapfile write error, and I can't save
the file.
I have checked the permissions for my user directory, and they are all ok.
Also, disk quotas are turned off.
Any ideas?
Rich Cloutier
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