Linux-Misc Digest #82, Volume #20                 Thu, 6 May 99 10:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  FTP performance (Zakir H. Sahul)
  Re: glibc 2.1 + downgrade + staroffice (Sid Boyce)
  Re: A Simple Question (Ken Williams)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Christopher Browne)
  Re: RTF (jik-)
  Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with 
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Richard Caley)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Problem Installing Linux (no local CDROM drive) ("brian l")
  Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?) (Jeffrey Altman)
  Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable" ("brian l")
  Re: Kernel 2.2.7 (Mark Lo)
  Re: A Simple Question (Duncan Simpson)
  Re: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates (Duncan Simpson)
  PCI card for Fibre Channel disks on with linux drivers ? (Marco BANO)
  Re: getch /getchar / getc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact mgr with 
backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend) (Markus Wandel)
  Re: Looking for "cross-platform" RAD tool for linux/Windows95 (Alexander Dymerets)
  Re: bsd_tcp ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  CPU idle tool in Linux? (Tuomo Louhivuori)
  Re: CPU idle tool in Linux? (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: Hidden files - Linux setup (Nick Roux)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zakir H. Sahul)
Subject: FTP performance
Date: 5 May 1999 14:35:46 -0700


Hi All,

I have noticed that large files tend to take much longer to
ftp than the same file split into smaller chunks.  But every
reference I can get on ftp seems to suggest that ftp speeds
are the same regardless of file size (10MB/s, etc.)  What
gives?  Could someone point me towards real life test results
that either refute or confirm my thinking?

Thank you!

-Zak.





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From: Sid Boyce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glibc 2.1 + downgrade + staroffice
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 17:24:24 -0400

Mark Shinwell wrote:
> 
> Jeremy Weinberger wrote:
> >
> > Does anybody know what is going on with glibc 2.1?
> 
> Good question.  In my opinion the authors need to adopt some decent
> engineering practice and produce some software which doesn't exhibit
> "political difficulties" as described on the FTP site, and which is
> fully backwards compatible.  There is no excuse for the system C
> library.
> 
<<< STUFF DELETED >>>
        This is a serious bungle and I'm surprised that RedHat allowed it to
happen, it breaks so many things, XBF_i740, StarOffice and many other
apps that are supplied in binary-only form.
        The decent thing to have done would have been to give the new libs
names that were different to the ones in GLIBC-2.0. even as a
tranistional move between the two, instead the named everything the
same, except they are incompatible. When I saw the compat libs, I was
hopeful that they had changed something to allow the correct one to be
loaded. 
        Perhaps something silly is missing here, I can't believe they didn't
test the distribution with apps like StarOffice or Applixware, surely
there are lots of PC's in-house at RedHat happily running 6.0 + those
apps.
        Up to last night there was no new i740 driver which prompted to email
redhat support.
-- 
... Sid Boyce...Amdahl(Europe)...44-121 422 0375 
Any opinions expressed above are mine and do not necessarily represent
 the opinions or policies of Amdahl Corporation.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: Re: A Simple Question
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 06:37:09 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Wa;t" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello-
>  After beating my head against the wall for an hour, I'd like to pose a
>very straightforward question to linux users:  how can I search a
>filesystem for files meeting a particular patten (e.g. ending with
>"sql"), which contain a particular string ("crdb")?  I can't seem to
>convince grep to do anything except search the current directory, and
>find doesn't seem to have an option to look for a string within a file.
>I know this must be simple, I just can't get it to work.
>  Thanks in advance for any information & assistance.

maybe try 'find / -name "*sql" -print | grep crdb'

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:16:03 GMT

On Wed, 05 May 1999 07:47:22 -0700, Andrew Carol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim Richardson
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 04 May 1999 14:14:22 -0700, 
>>  Andrew Carol, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>
>> >2 - Person registers software on-line.
>> 
>> via a n IP_masqueraded box, which strips out the ID (encrypted ot plain)
>> and inserts it's own.
>
>If the ID is pre-encrypted using Intels public key, what does that do
>for you?  You can't insert yours.  You don't even know yours.  If you
>make one up, it won't work.

Unfortunately, this all doesn't work, once put into a system, unless it
is *truly* reliable.  And leaving alone MSFT as an easy target to accuse
of such things, PC-style hardware is also not 100% reliable.

If there is a failure, under this scheme, *all* the software that you
had bought becomes moribund, which is a very bad thing for system
reliability.  Big opening for Denial of Service attacks. 

>> >8 - When run, the CPU reads the "magic" value, decodes with private
>> >key, and now obtains the software decode key.
>> 
>> squid sniffs out the decode key from the registers on the chip.
>
>What is a "squid"?  (Quantum measuring device used at low temp?)
>
>I do know there are packaging methods which are very resistant to
>attack, and will erase any key information if the package is opened. 
>Layers of metalization can be placed above (and even below) active
>circutry.  A small battery could even be embeded in the package to keep
>circuitry active looking for attacks (such as being opened or rapid
>temp change).  Since a key could be erased in under a micro second,
>there are very few attacks which could shut it down first.  This would
>be expensive, but Intel has proven they can take a very expensive
>design and get costs down simply by enourmouse production volume.
>
>I am sure that any company with a few tens of billions to throw around
>would be able to figure this out.  From their point of view, if the
>first generation got broken, they would adapt and rev their design.

The following essay on Tamper Resistance is pretty apropos.
<http://www.d.shuttle.de/isil/crypt/txt/andkuhn.html>

The basic thesis is that the only systems that appear tamper resistant
against bright university students with *some* instrumentation
(generally denominated in mere "thousands" of dollars, and not your
"tens of billions") are nuclear devices, and governments generally back
up *extreme* tamper-resistant packaging with security measures that
would be considered extreme for anything less than nuclear devices.

Consumer-level stuff isn't going to be nearly as tamper-resistant as you
are indicating. 

Note that a "paranoid chip" that *permanently* removes your access to
software at any provocation is a giant Denial of Service attack just
waiting to happen... 
-- 
"Are we worried about Linux? ... Sure we are worried." - Steve Ballmer, VP of
Microsoft at Seybold publishing conference
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 03:23:07 -0700
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RTF

Andres Kuusk wrote:
> 
> Hello, Everyone,
> 
> Who can recommend tools for reading RTF (rich text format) files in Linux?
> 
Don't know if it works, haven't gotten the POC to try and compile it,
but there is a RTF reader written in Objective-C using Motif.  Read
archives of the comp.windows.x.motif, comp.lang.objective-c, and
comp.windows.x.announce to find it.  It is announced every month or so
it seems.

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From: Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact 
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 06 May 1999 13:28:23 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Maxwell (mm) writes:

mm> The only thing I'd disagree with here is that, if a system is marketed as
mm> a "single-user" system, then development will inevitably follow in that
mm> direction -- optimizing the system for single-user, developing single-user
mm> oriented applications, or whatever the case may be.

Surely the point of a proper multi user machine is that it looks like a
whole box of single user machines. 

A counter example to your argument would be Solaris, I don't see that
it has become more single-user bound, yet Sun have been building
workstations for a long time.

-- 
Mail me as rjc not [EMAIL PROTECTED]            _O_
                                                 |<


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 22:41:00 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 05 May 1999 08:53:18 -0700...
..and Mike Coffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> 
> > It's silly to try and model the whole world by simple, orthogonal
> > principles. The world is fuzzy, complex and chaotic. Any way of
> > thinking needs to take this in account.
> 
> Libertarians don't try to model the whole world at all, much less by
> simple, orthogonal principles.

If ESR is by any way a typical libertarian, then what you say is
wrong. For ESR, there are no nuances, just all this do-or-die coercion
first-use-of-force "Ethics From the Barrel of a Gun" bullshit.

mawa
-- 
It is a common characteristic of all democracies that intelligence is
so highly regarded as to exempt the holder from the cares of office 
                                                    --  major@pyrmania

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From: "brian l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem Installing Linux (no local CDROM drive)
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:42:28 +0100
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux

Don't forget that Linux is case sensitive - the redhat directory is actually
RedHat  (capital H & R), and the directory prefix is a /
so it would be /RedHat

This could be why it's not working.
Good luck.


Stewart Watkiss wrote in message <7grnij$hak$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I am not new to Linux, this is however only the second time I've tried
>installing it. The first worked OK but this time I haven't had quite the
>same success.
>
>I had previously installed an older version of RedHat on a machine as
>dual boot with another OS. The machine does not have a local CDROM drive
>but does have a network connection. Previously I installed Linux by
>creating a FAT 16 partition and copying the entire contents of the CD to
>that partition using the other OS to FTP from the CD.
>
>I decided to install a more recent version of Redhat (Ver 5.2), but
>whilst doing this I wanted to reorganize the disk partitions and remove
>the old OS leaving only Linux. I copied the new Redhat CD into the FAT
>16 partition (reformatting first) over the network. I then ran the Linux
>install (I no longer have the old OS so can't transfer the files over
>the network).
>
>The problem is that when using the installer I reach the point:
>
>What partition and directory on that partition hold the RedHAT/RPMS and
>RedHat/base directories.
>
>I select the FAT 16 partition and then no matter what I put in the
>directory I get the message "Device hda5 does not appear to contain a
>Red Hat installation tree". I've tried all kinds of permutations: /  ;
>/redhat  ;  \redhat  ;  \  etc...  I can't remember what path I put in
>when I first installed Linux but I'm sure I've tried it.
>
>I have checked that the information is on the FAT 16 partition
>When booted using a Win95 boot disk I looked at the directory structure
>C:\REDHAT
>with the base subdirectory below that. All looks OK. Total disk space
>used about 500MB (the same as the CD-ROM)
>
>I have also tried to use FTP.
>This does not work. Although my FTP machine is running Windows 95. I
>suspect that it doesn't recognize the file structure of a Windows 95
>machine \ instead of / etc... The FTPdeamon is supplied as part of
>Exceed 95.
>
>Does anyone have any other suggestions (other than the obvious get a
>CD-ROM drive)?
>Am I putting in an incorrect directory for the Redhat install files?
>
>Thanks
>Stewart
>
>[remove the #'s for my email address]
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey Altman)
Crossposted-To: comp.terminals
Subject: Re: 'screen' and dselect/lynx/mutt/slrn (terminfo?)
Date: 6 May 1999 12:39:32 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John E. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 5 May 1999 13:22:44 GMT, Jeffrey Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: wrote:
: >There is only one problem with this rationale, most of the terminal
: >designs were implemented in hardware and in order for software to 
: >emulate them properly the software must do exactly what the hardware
: >did.
: 
:    However, this does not prevent the software from providing some
: mode to workaround a bad design.

Sure it does.  If I implement a terminal type that has a feature that
I think is a bad design and therefore change it to what I believe is
a better design, I am not implementing the original terminal type 
instead I am deriving a new one.  Whatever change I make is going to
affect the ability of the terminal emulation to reproduce the behavior
of the original terminal.

Most terminal software implements multiple terminal types.  If non-bce
terminals are really slow compared to a bce terminal, the user will
switch to the bce terminal.  Just as people used to switch to HZ1500
when using Emacs because the HZ1500 supported cursor size changes 
whereas the VT terminals did not.

: >There are few terminals that actually implement "erase with default 
: >color".  The QNX console is one example, older Xterm implementations 
: >are another.  Many of the so called "ANSI"* terminals (SCOANSI, AT386, 
: >...) implement both and can be toggled between the two modes with:
: >
: >  Set Fill Mode
: >  CSI = Ps L
: >    Ps = 0, use current color
: >    Ps = 1, use default color
: 
:    Does this have a terminfo/termcap equivalent?

The place to put this is in the init string.  That way you will be
setting the mode to use current color at the start of your applicaiton.

: >Now I completely agree that "erasing with the default color" makes
: >screen optimization must more difficult.  However, it is a feature of
: >many terminals and since terminals do not go away it should be
: >supported.  'screen' implemented it years ago, while it might not be 
: >very efficient it can't be very hard.
: 
: My development version of slang handles terminals that do not have the
: bce capability, and it was not difficult to implement.  I was
: reluctant to add support for such terminals because I do not want to
: encourage their use.

Then write that up in the docs.  Don't break existing systems just 
because you happen to not like something.


    Jeffrey Altman * Sr.Software Designer * Kermit-95 for Win32 and OS/2
                 The Kermit Project * Columbia University
              612 West 115th St #716 * New York, NY * 10025
  http://www.kermit-project.org/k95.html * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:24:26 GMT

"Rolf Marvin Be Lindgren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: UNIX supports several users out of convenience - some processes are best
: run as a separate users.  to me, the fact that the same machine can run
: several login shells simultaneously is not sufficient to call it
: anything else.  the concept, in UNIX, is a hack - for instance, that
: there are only two levels of user - root and not root. 

        This is why Unix has groups.

: if you want a true shared user system, go for an operating system that
: supports it - NOS, VMS, TOPS-20.

        Want or need?  Most people don't need VMS and fewer still want it,
        even in true multi-user settings.

-- 
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

        Yah, Emacs is a good OS, but I prefer FreeBSD.

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From: "brian l" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: netcfg and "no $DISPLAY variable"
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:46:33 +0100



>
>
>You might want to upgrade your kernel, too.  It's a bit old now.
>--

Hey - this isn't Micro$oft.  You don't *have* to upgrade if you don't want -
if this kenel works for him/her then fine.  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.



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From: Mark Lo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.act.kernel,linux.redhat.misc,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.7
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 20:53:16 +0800

But you need some package for kernel 2.2
modutils , glibc
initscripts , sysklogd , console-tools
net-tools
procinfo
util-linux
Maybe you need more...


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: A Simple Question
Date: 6 May 1999 13:01:40 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Wa;t" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Hello-
>  After beating my head against the wall for an hour, I'd like to pose a
>very straightforward question to linux users:  how can I search a
>filesystem for files meeting a particular patten (e.g. ending with
>"sql"), which contain a particular string ("crdb")?  I can't seem to
>convince grep to do anything except search the current directory, and
>find doesn't seem to have an option to look for a string within a file.
>I know this must be simple, I just can't get it to work.
>  Thanks in advance for any information & assistance.

grep does not understand wildcard filenames in any case. The when you
use wildcard file names the shell expands them before ns grep, rm, etc
never see them. If you want a big list of file names then choose an
appropaite tool to generate them.

If you except the list might be too long then xargs knows about the
limits and will split the argument list into small enough chunks. Your
problem, for example, could be addressed using

find . -name \*sql -type f -print | xargs fgrep -l crdb

which generates a list of files (the -type f) which match the glob *sql
(the -name option) and feeds the output to xargs. xargs invokes fgrep
on chunks of the output. (Since you had no wild cards fgrep looked
like a good move). [Some versions of find need -print if you want them
to actually send the list of files found to stdout. GNU find usually
guesses you want this and does it anyway :-)

See TFMP for detials.


--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Duncan Simpson)
Subject: Re: Q:compiling c++ codes that contains templates
Date: 6 May 1999 13:06:30 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "D. Vrabel" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>On Thu, 6 May 1999, Richard wrote:

>You can't do this.  The compiler needs to see all the template
>code so it can generate the code for referenced templates for each source
>file.  A seperate process (collect2 I believe) runs before linking to
>remove duplicate instatiations of a template.  ie You can't seperatly
>compile a template because it doesn't know what types to generate the code
>for.  If you take a look at the STL headers you'll see that all the code
>is in the headers.

Since nobody has mentioned it yet GNU ld will onlt include one
instance of member functions included in more than one object, unless
you have a really ancient version (not recommended if you want working
binaries in any instance). Duplicate removal is a feature of GNU ld.

Duncan (-:


--
Duncan (-:
"software industry, the: unique industry where selling substandard goods is
legal and you can charge extra for fixing the problems."

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From: Marco BANO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PCI card for Fibre Channel disks on with linux drivers ?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:21:07 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey,

Anyone out there have the news, experience if exist some PCI card Fibre
channel supported with a driver for linux ?

or Which ultra2 scsi card (with RAID capability) you suggest ?

THANKS
--
Marco BANO
Network administrator Consultant
EUMETSAT
Am Kavalleriesand 31
64295 DARMSTADT
Germany

Office : ++49 6151 807536



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: getch /getchar / getc
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:46:26 GMT

news <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does N E 1 know how to get a singel char input from keyboard
> using generic C ( without using ncurses.h or vga.h )

Put the terminal in raw mode (man termios) before reading from it

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system? (was: Wanted: Database/Contact 
mgr with backend on Linux/FreeBSD, web frontend)
Date: 6 May 1999 11:39:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rolf Marvin B�e Lindgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>UNIX supports several users out of convenience - some processes are best
>run as a separate users.  to me, the fact that the same machine can run
>several login shells simultaneously is not sufficient to call it
>anything else.  the concept, in UNIX, is a hack - for instance, that
>there are only two levels of user - root and not root. 
>
>if you want a true shared user system, go for an operating system that
>supports it - NOS, VMS, TOPS-20.  

Amazing, the hundreds of thousands of people who shared Unix boxes before
single-user workstations came along must have missed this.  In fact in the
engineering work I do for a living we still routinely share compute servers
(standard single-user workstations that don't happen to have a single local
user on the local console) and again we must be doofuses because Unix does
exactly what what it was intended to do, provide all the necessary multiuser
functionality at minimum cost and confusion.

My own Linux box routinely runs two netscape sessions at the same time --
mine on the console and another via X from an underpowered 486 box.  With
separate home directories, full file protection, but shared reentrant code
in the application so it doesn't waste memory, and seamless sharing of a 
dialup internet connection.  Big deal, that's the least of it, but it's already
more than any "single user" box could do.

If you want more than two levels of user on Unix you have to fiddle with
group privileges and I'd be the first to admit that it's confusing but people
use them all the time and they do work, e.g. for a project-wide shared RCS
repository.

Markus

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From: Alexander Dymerets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for "cross-platform" RAD tool for linux/Windows95
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:37:03 +0300

Hi! 
> metrowerks has just released their IDE for use on the linux platform.  The
> initial offering is basically a front-end for the gnu compiler, but the next
> one out the door is supposed to have their own compiler.  Presumably, the
> "full IDE" will include RAD tools as well...
Codeworrior is IDE, but it isn't RAD.
> 
> you'll get as many people to praise the MW compiler as will attack it, but
> it's one of very few that can claim not only cross-platform compatability
> with linux/windows, but also macintosh, sega, and nintendo... [or something
> like that]
In Windows it uses MFC. In Mac it uses PowerPlant. Versions of CW for different
platforms are compatible as any other ANSI-compatible
compilers, nut they don't have common cross-platform class libraries.
                                                Alexander

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: bsd_tcp
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:01:45 GMT

TCP/IP is compiled into the kernal.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Somehow I've managed to remove bsd_tcp from my system. Net result is an
> > unresolved symbol error when I try to execute XF86Setup. Can anyone tell me
> > what kernal mods are required or where bsd_tcp resides?
> Is bsd_tcp a module?  Do you have TCP/IP netorking compiled into the
> kernel?  X clients talk to the server using TCP which is why it is
> required.
>
> David
> --
> David Vrabel
> Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
>
>

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From: Tuomo Louhivuori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CPU idle tool in Linux?
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:19:14 +0300

Hi,

I'm new to the linux and I was wondering if there are tools to
run HLT-command on CPU in idle threads. Like CPUidle etc on windows.

Thanks,

-Tuomo



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: CPU idle tool in Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:22:42 GMT

On Thu, 06 May 1999 15:19:14 +0300, Tuomo Louhivuori wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm new to the linux and I was wondering if there are tools to
> run HLT-command on CPU in idle threads. Like CPUidle etc on windows.
> Thanks,
> -Tuomo

Linux (the kernel, that is) does CPU idling all by itself, IIRC.

Thomas
-- 
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=--   "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw." M.C.   --=
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Roux)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Hidden files - Linux setup
Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 14:06:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

C:>attrib -h -r -s *.* /s

Nick

On Thu, 06 May 1999 09:55:16 +0200, in comp.os.linux.misc Alessandro
Magni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Been satisfied with Linux as my new OS, I decided to shrink even more
>the Win98 partition that remains
>on my disk (most for gaming purposes).
>Unfortunately I discovered that, defragmenting it, I cannot gain the
>space I hoped, because some hidden
>file in the tail of the disk has not been moved.
>
>Do you know of some program - under Win, Dos - able to display filename
>& position on disk,
>so that I can get rid of it?
>
>Thank for your help
>
>
>    Alexxx


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