Linux-Misc Digest #82, Volume #24 Sat, 8 Apr 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: slackware - sendmail (Jeffery Cann)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Otto")
Re: newbie question (Hugh Lawson)
Re: Soundcard 'sharing' possible? (David Efflandt)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Otto")
Re: HP Deskjet 815 and 1120C with Linux ? (Iceman)
Staroffice segfaults on install. (Ron Gibson)
Oops: Corel Linux Roadshow (Robert Lynch)
Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (Eric G. Miller)
Re: Tape drive write errors using TAR cmd. ("Keith M. Smith")
Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? ("donoli")
Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (J Bland)
Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (Janet)
New to Linux, LILO installed need dual boot (Nicholas)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Bill Unruh)
Re: Hosts File ("MaStEr oF DiZasTer")
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From: Jeffery Cann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: slackware - sendmail
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:02:16 GMT
You may have better success if you run the 'netconfig' program as root.
Jeff
Luc Bergeron wrote:
> i just installed slackware 7. I changed the settings
> in the HOSTNAME and hosts files to set my own
> demain name (vortex.computer). Now, when i'm booting
> slackware, sendmail takes about 1 min to load !!!
--
members.home.net/jccann
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:17:31 GMT
"petilon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> You must be new to this industry. Follow the link below, then
> >> come back and tell us if you still have trouble believing the
> >> story:
> >> http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102
> >
> > The link produces a 404 error, evidently the urban legend what
> > you were referencing no longer exists.
>
> I am not getting any 404 error. Try again.
fungus (thanks) provided the correct link, but the content made no
difference.
>
> > You call it ignorance and in actuality it is a smart business
> > decision. Some people don't have unlimited budget for
> > software. When people don't need to pay $700.00 on the top of
> > the NT server price, then it is conceivable that they are
> > "getting something for free".
>
> You give Microsoft a monopoly and you will end up paying a lot
> more than $700. Microsoft raises prices in subtle ways. Here's
> an example:
> http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,16045,00.html?owv
> Here's another:
> http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,26061,00.html?owv
>
> Remember, Microsoft isn't bundling things with their OS because
> of the goodness of their heart. They know that once they drive
> the competitors out of business they will be able to jack prices
> up in subtle ways, and also sell you the same product multiple
> times, as they did with Windows 95/98.
That remains to be seen if Microsoft will jack up the prices of their
products. You'd be hard to press to name another software company who's
software is cheaper than Microsoft's.
>
> > Every company, which ever developed anything, will recuperate
> > the cost of the R & D. Microsoft is not different in that
> > respect.
>
> Microsoft is only different in that they have extracted oscenely
> large profits, and what's worse, they are continuing to extract
> huge amounts of money from their customers, without
> proportionately improving their products. For example, Word97
> costs the same as Word95 and yet the products are practically
> identical.
>
> People think Microsoft isn't raising prices, but when they sell
> you the same product multiple times (e.g.: Win95/98, Word95/97),
> if that isn't a subtle price increase what is?
Again, it isn't something what other software companies are not doing. Have
you ever looked at other software companies version numbers? There isn't any
subtle difference between their versions either, why are you picking on
Microsoft?
>
> > So you think that Windows 98 is a crime. Then you're probably
> > screaming bloody murder when you look at Red Hat's version
> > numbers, 5.0/5.1 and 6.0/6.1. The time elapsed between the
> > versions isn't even close to three years which is the case of
> > the Windows95/98 switch. Not to mention the rest of the Linux
> > distributors and the fact that their R & D is minimal, when
> > compared to Microsoft's. Yet, the price of the Linux distros
> > are similar to Windows platform prices.
>
> Linux is a free product. Try to get that into your head. I bought
> my copy of Redhat for $2 from www.cheapbytes.com and with that
> $2 investment I can install the OS on a thousand machines if I
> want to. Legally.
Linux is not a free product, you try to get that into your head. Have you
walked into CompUSA and looked at the prices lately? I didn't think so.
You didn't even buy your copy for $2 @cheapbytes, conveniently forgot to
mention the shipping cost. So, you paid $7, which is NOT free. You don't
want me to quote the definition of free, do you?
I burn my own CDs for Linux from ISO images, even that is not free.
>
> > Would you care to elaborate as to why the price of the
> > Windows9x has not changed since 1995? That fact in itself is
> > contradicting your statement.
>
> The fact that the price of Windows9x hasn't changed since 1995
> shows that that they have raised prices.
Sounds strange when you consider the rate of inflation...
> Now that may seem like
> a contradiction until you realize, as I have, that I paid $90
> when Widows95 came out and another $90 for Windows98, for a total
> of $180, and yet I have basically the same product (except for a
> few bug fixes) that I had in 1995. So what I have in my hand
> today is a $180 product.
Did anyone force you to buy Windows98? And what is this stuff about
"basically the same product"? They are not the same products, hence the
reason that you bought it. Besides, you don't have $180 products in your
hand. You have two old versions of the Windows OSs, which nobody needs.
Otto
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hugh Lawson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:19:15 GMT
On Sat, 08 Apr 2000 16:13:31 -0400, Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Leonard,
>
>Thanks for the input. It turns out that they have given me an IP address,
>so I thought it was static, but when the person setting up the cable modem
>came in, he did not put in an IP address, not a subnet mast etc, but he
>did check the box that says Use DHCP for Wins . This is under Windows
>of course. So I am really confused now. It seems that they have assigned
>me an IP address, but they want me to use DHCP. Does that make any
>sense. It does not to me . Maybe it is for consistency, so that they do not
>give out more IP addresses than they have. The @Home network does
>not support Linux, so I cannot get any help from them. I will try what you
>said and let you know what happens.
I don't know about your isp. I have a cable modem with RoadRunner. The
cable company installed the hardware and the Win95 software. I did the
Linux by guesswork:
Step 1. insmod the kernel module for my NIC
Step 2. start the dhcp client for RH 6.1, thats "pump"
That was it.
--
Hugh Lawson
Greensboro, North Carolina
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Soundcard 'sharing' possible?
Date: 8 Apr 2000 22:21:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Catilina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a way to share my soundcard, so more than 1 program can use it at
>the same time? I'm asking this because I cannot start gnome while I'm
>playing an mp3 with mp3blaster. Once i quit mp3blaster, gnome continues to
>load. Idem when i play a sound in gnome, i don't hear it until after the mp3
>has stopped playing. In windows, i hear the sound through the mp3, so it is
>definitely possible to do this. It's rather annoying right now, 'cause i
>can't do anything else while listening to some music, since a lot of
>programs play some sound when starting up (I've tried to disable sound in
>gnome, but that didn't work and it's not really what I want either)
>
>Thanks for all info!
>
>PS: Debian Woody, Celeron 300, cmpci audio module, CMI8738/C3DX pci
>soundcard, kernel 2.2.14, i'm a newbie
>--
>Catilina
I think I may have installed a package during RH 6.1 setup that allows
multiple sounds to be played at the same time, but I wouldn't know what it
is called without looking through all of the packages. I can still hear
gnome sounds without interruption while playing mp3 with XMMS in gnome.
The process using the most cpu at the time is esd, but I don't know if
esound is what I installed or if that is just the normal sound driver for
Enlightenment that Gnome runs under.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:33:59 GMT
"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Otto wrote:
> >
> > > http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102
> >
> > The link produces a 404 error, evidently the urban legend what you were
> > referencing no longer exists.
> >
>
> No it doesn't, but Netscape messes it up. Try this one:
>
> http://x25.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102
Thanks...
>
>
> > You call it ignorance and in actuality it is a smart business
> > decision. Some people don't have unlimited budget for software.
> > When people don't need to pay $700.00 on the top of the NT
> > server price, then it is conceivable that they are "getting
> > something for free".
> >
>
> Nope. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. The
> development costs for that software will be passed along
> to the users somewhere down the line, normally unfairly.
>
> It's just another example of the way MS uses its monopoly
> power. It gives something away for "free" in one place
> in order to gain market share, but passes the costs on
> to the people in a different place (eg. Hike the price
> of every Windows 98 by 10 cents to cover it).
>From the end user's perspective, who cares? You are not saying that the same
tactic isn't used by other companies, are you?
>
>
> > Every company, which ever developed anything, will recuperate
> > the cost of the R & D. Microsoft is not different in that
> > respect.
> >
>
> But other companies are forced to recoup the costs by
> actually *selling the product*.
And make profit on every single product what they sell. That would explain
the outrageous prices of some of "those products".
>
> Do you really fail to see the difference?
>From business perspective, no. From end user perspective, yes. I tend to
vote with money, if it is Microsoft which provides what I need, so be it.
Even it is costing me "10 cents" more vs hundreds of dollars in additional
software.
>
> > Would you care to elaborate as to why the price of the Windows9x
> > has not changed since 1995?
>
> Yes it has. They put the price of Windows 95 up when Windows
> 98 was released. Windows 98 was cheap because they didn't
> actually put a lot of R&D into it, it's just Windows 95
> with a makeover.
Any product's successive version number is not more than a makeover. Be that
Unix, Linux, Windows, whatever platform. Neither of them puts in a lot of
R&D between versions. The choice belongs to the end user, if he/she wants to
buy it.
>
> Remember that they developed the whole of Windows 95 in
> the same timeframe as they did the makeover to produce
> Windows 98. This is stagnation of technology, and more
> evidence of somebody who doesn't need to work hard to keep
> their customers.
When a software company has as much market saturation as Microsoft does,
then they can get away with a lot. That's nothing new, any company which has
a chance at it will do it in a hart beat.... Does IBM, Apple, etc.. ring a
bell?
Otto
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From: Iceman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 815 and 1120C with Linux ?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 15:24:12 -0700
Hello Bernard:
I can't speak to issues regarding the 815C, but I have an
810C that performs well under RH 6.1. The only limitation
is that it will not print at more than 300 x 300 dpi. To
get it to work, one must use the driver for the 550C.
Nonetheless, for $90 US it's doing all I need it to. For a
fairly comprhensive printer compatability list, I'd suggest
you try http://www.picante.com
Good luck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Staroffice segfaults on install.
Date: 8 Apr 2000 22:42:29 GMT
I downloaded Staroffice and have Slackware 6.0 running kernel 2.2.14
with the ATA66 patch.
When I try to run the install I get a segfault. Any ideas?
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 56576008
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Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 15:43:04 -0700
From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Oops: Corel Linux Roadshow
Opening today's mail (Sat. April 8) I find an invitation to the "first
Corel Linux Roadshow 2000".
The San Francisco show was held Thursday, April 6 and the last show on
the enclosed calendar April 6-7 in Ottowa.
Oops! Anyone have a time machine handy? :)
Bob L.
--
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric G. Miller)
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 22:52:44 GMT
On 8 Apr 2000 21:33:54 GMT, Jonathan Baron
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Recent versions of ghostscript (such as 6.0, which just came out
>recently, but also 5.5) include ps2pdf as well as pdf2ps. So you just
>install ghostscript (probably installed already) and say
>
>ps2pdf file.ps file.pdf
>
>This works beautifully.
>
No it doesn't. It mangles fonts. I've had the best luck using the
hyperref package and pdflatex.
<snip example>
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} % Use Type 1 fonts
\usepackage{palatino} % Default to palatino group
\usepackage[pdftex, % Must specify pdftex driver -- only!
....
]{hyperref}
\usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} % Ditto here
\DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.pdf,.png}% Specify some default graphics exts.
\ExecuteOptions{pdftex} % Make sure the pdftex driver is used.
</snip>
The only drag is you can't use eps graphics. They have to be converted
with epstopdf or you can use png, tiff, and a few other bitmap type
formats. So if your graphics have text, their fonts still get bitmapped
- sucks for display, but still prints okay.
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From: "Keith M. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Tape drive write errors using TAR cmd.
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:14:05 GMT
Hi:
I've actually narrowed down the problem to the mt comand. I can
repeatedly store tar files to the tape. However, as soon as I issue an
mt command to move around the tape, then I can no longer write tar files
to the tape. In order to correct the problem, I must rewind and start
over.
It concerns me that mt doesn't recognize the tape drive type however
(see previous email). Note that even though I cannot write to tape, I
can still use tar to read from the tape. So, I can recover my backup at
a later date.
Keith
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From: "donoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.2600
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:21:47 GMT
The Scotts wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>(newsgroups trimmed)
>
>I'm no expert, but if a hacker got root access you need to reformat and
>reinstall from virgin sources. Suggest using the latest versions of
>everything, including RH6.2 (assume you refer to RH 6.1 as "Linux
>6.1"). Refer to RH's Updates and Errata pages often and install the
>upgrades. Running a server implies also you need to run ipchains.
>Suggest reviewing the security Howto.
>
>Bob Scott
>
======
Reinstalling is a good idea. but to answer your question about holes in
Sendmail, it depends on the version of Sendmail more than it does the OS.
donoli.
=====
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: 8 Apr 2000 23:23:31 GMT
>>Recent versions of ghostscript (such as 6.0, which just came out
>>recently, but also 5.5) include ps2pdf as well as pdf2ps. So you just
>>install ghostscript (probably installed already) and say
>>
>>ps2pdf file.ps file.pdf
>>
>>This works beautifully.
>
>No it doesn't. It mangles fonts. I've had the best luck using the
Ditto, highly embarrassing to recommend ps2pdf to a colleague and then find
the output is highly irregular. It just doesn't work properly. The font
problem is a bad one. (How often do we here that in Linux?)
JB
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: 08 Apr 2000 16:20:25 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Baron) writes:
> Recent versions of ghostscript (such as 6.0, which just came out
> recently, but also 5.5) include ps2pdf as well as pdf2ps. So you
> just install ghostscript (probably installed already) and say
>
> ps2pdf file.ps file.pdf
>
> This works beautifully.
Well, maybe. In my experience, PDF looks a lot better when Acrobat churns
it out (at least on the screen). However, ps2pdf definitely works. As
for whether it is worth the money...depends on how much you need to put
our your documents in PDF and what quality you need them to be.
Janet
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From: Nicholas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New to Linux, LILO installed need dual boot
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:30:51 GMT
I'm new to linux. I just installed slackware 7.0 on my computer and it
works fine. However, I also need to run windows 98 on my machine. I have
the partitions already set up but I haven't done the install. I was
wondering if there is anything besides putting the CD in and starting the
install that I should do to make sure that win98 goes to the correct
partition.
Second I also need help with liloconfig. I had problems when I started with
the install of linux so I didn't tell the machine to dual boot. So I know I
need to edit liloconfig so that it knows that my machine is a dual boot
machine.
Could someone really walk me through it?
Thanks
-Nicholas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 8 Apr 2000 23:52:51 GMT
In <twIH4.46269$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]> Windows 98 is practically the same product as Windows 95, with
]> some bug fixes. In a competitive market Microsoft could never
]> have charged $90 for these bug fixes. Thanks to their monopoly
]> Microsoft was able to get away with this crime.
]So you think that Windows 98 is a crime. Then you're probably screaming
]bloody murder when you look at Red Hat's version numbers, 5.0/5.1 and
]6.0/6.1. The time elapsed between the versions isn't even close to three
They are free, in case you did not notice.
]years which is the case of the Windows95/98 switch. Not to mention the rest
]of the Linux distributors and the fact that their R & D is minimal, when
]compared to Microsoft's. Yet, the price of the Linux distros are similar to
]Windows platform prices.
Where did you get your MS for free? who told you that you could make as
many copies as you wished of your Win98 and hand them out to friends?
You must live in a different economic world than the rest of us do.
]>
]> The bottom line is that unregulated monopolies are a bad idea.
]That's a contradiction in terminology and pretends that regulated monopolies
]exists. Monopolies are against the law and no regulation exists for them for
]that reason.
Monopolies are NOT against the law. The laws governing monopolies are
however different from the laws governing other businesses.
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From: "MaStEr oF DiZasTer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hosts File
Date: 8 Apr 2000 23:55:25 GMT
It's like:
127.0.0.1 localhost
195.121.100.1 hostname1.domain.com
195.121.100.2 hostname2.domain.com
195.121.100.3 hostname3.domain.com
195.121.100.4 hostname4.domain.com
All ip's and hostnames are fake of course, exept for the first one
(localhost), it's your loopback
If you wanna add some comment, begin with a #
--
MaStEr oF DiZasTer GreetZ !!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in artikel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> What is the correct format for a hosts file? I can't seem to get mine to
> work properly. I am running Redhat 6.2.
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>
> -----
> Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
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