Linux-Misc Digest #82, Volume #19 Thu, 18 Feb 99 12:13:18 EST
Contents:
Re: printing a header (Edward Vigmond)
Re: Help unremovable file (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Only root can create a file??? ("David Z. Maze")
X Windows Inode corruption ("Karim Shehadeh")
Re: User "shutdown" of L2.0.34 ("David Z. Maze")
IBM Far & Away card - was: Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support) (Geoff Allsup)
Re: Always as root - is it dangerous? (Thomas Boggs)
Re: Security Warning: lsof (Jason Clifford)
X11 & LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Guillaume Marcais)
Re: PS + HP Laserjet-5L + margins ("David M. Plummer")
Re: KPPP - Connect ... no Nameserver ("Torsten Jenkner")
Re: ...a Linux RedHat Technician/Superuser ? (Frank Sweetser)
Re: Help unremovable file (Sparkzz)
Re: Anyone lucky with STB 128 AGP 4MB card? (Rluby)
Re: kernel 2.2.1: shutdown problem (Gerald Pollack)
new PS/2-port and new PS/2-mouse doesn't work ("Torsten Jenkner")
Solution dual-boot ("Rudy Tuypens")
Re: Screen Capture in Xwindows (Ralf Lange)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Johan Kullstam)
Re: pppd daemon died unexpectedly (Fabrizio Albonico)
Turtle Beach Montego (Dell OEM) with RedHat 5.2 (jht)
Re: Novice Help: Modem Gone Undetected? (Robert Heller)
Re: loadlin equivilent for Linux? (Robert Heller)
Re: SiS5597 / 5598 chipset (Philip Brown)
Emacs (Was: Re: The Arachne Browser) (Tristan Wibberley)
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From: Edward Vigmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: printing a header
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:08:47 GMT
roe wrote:
>
> How do I print a header on the top of each page of a text file?
> I need each page to have time, date, file name.
> I can't seem to figure out how to do this.
> Any suggestions?
Look at enscript. It takes text and produces postscript.
It will do all you want and more. You have complete control over fonts,
columns, language sensitive highlighting, etc. The header is totally
configurable. You can add underlays as well.
--
Ed Vigmond
Institut de Genie Biomedical, Universite de Montreal
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Help unremovable file
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:25:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Skouson wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a file I can't delete.... Here is a ls -al in the
>directory.....
>drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 1024 Feb 17 12:36 .
>drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 1024 Feb 17 11:22 ..
>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 8192 Feb 17 11:07 man1
>drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 34816 Feb 15 16:40 man3
>c--xr--r-x 1 me 25954 110, 97 Apr 2 1987 man4
Would be a character special file with a major number of 1
and a minor of 110 ... in short, the 110th ramdisk 8)
Guess you better should make a backup and use debugfs, but
read the man page first since it means you're manipulating
the FS on a *very* low level.
[...]
>lsattr: Operation not supported by device While reading flags on ./man4
[...]
Sure, see above, it's a special file now. If done do a filesystem
check, just to be sure.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Only root can create a file???
Date: 18 Feb 1999 09:23:14 -0500
Laurie Weibel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
LW> I just installed RH Linux 5.1, and I seem to have a problem creating a file
LW> with any user account other than root. If I do....
LW>
LW> ls -al > outfile
LW>
LW> I get an error message: "ls: write error: no space left on device."
LW>
LW> The file is created, with a zero length. If I su to root, this
LW> command works and writes the file, so there IS room on the disk.
What does 'df' say? My guess is that it will tell you that there are
fewer blocks free than total, but none available. This is because
some fraction of your disk (by default 5%) is reserved for root to
use, mostly so that when the disk fills up system processes don't die
and root has some hope of recovering. Try deleting some stuff off the
partition in question.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: "Karim Shehadeh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X Windows Inode corruption
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:12:07 GMT
When I leave X Windows running for an unspecificied period of time (probably
a couple of hours) then return to it and try to do anything that access the
hard drive, the drive access will fail then random things start happening,
the worst of which is that X Windows exits and I'm returned to the command
line. But when I get to the command line, hundreds of messages scroll past
mentioning something about inode read/write errors,etc. I haven't found a
way to stop the scrolling to get a good read. In rebooting the computer and
reloading Linux, fsck is run and a single error is always found and fixed
and operation continues normally. The error often mentions something about
a deleted inode and that it has been fixed. Previous to Linux, I never had
a problem with my hard drive and this doesn't seem to happen from the
command line.
Here are my specs:
Red Hat Linux Release 5.2
Kernel 2.0.36
AMD K6-300 processor
1.2 Gig Western Digital Drive
Window Manager : KDE (although I've used others with the same problem).
Could it be a problem with the X Server (SVGA)?
Thanks,
Karim
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: User "shutdown" of L2.0.34
Date: 18 Feb 1999 09:27:08 -0500
Mavi Gozler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MG> I want to know how a user can shutdown or "make busy" a system
MG> running Linux 2.0.34.
Become root and run the shutdown command.
MG> With Linux 1.x.y, it was easy for me to start a script that kept
MG> repeatedly calling 'inetd' and somehow made the system busy or
MG> locked, requiring a resetting of the system by the sys admins to
MG> restore its normal operation, the intention of doing so.
MG>
MG> With 2.0.x, it appears a bit more complicated, so know where the soft
MG> underbelly of this system and employing this tactic to demand a system
MG> restart when it is needed is in order.
So, you're essentially asking a public newsgroup for a working
denial-of-service attack on a machine you have a logon for. Have you
considered *gasp* asking the local sysadmin to deal when there's a
problem? If you have a legitimate need for a system to be reset,
you'll also have appropriate privileges to do it, and to do it in a
polite fashion.
MG> Can someone please give a list of things to try to make the system
MG> shutdown and then be restarted?
shutdown(8) and the reboot(2) syscall, both of which (rightly) require
root privileges.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Subject: IBM Far & Away card - was: Re: Red Hat's sick sense of humor (support)
Date: 18 Feb 1999 12:50:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 17 Feb 1999 15:14:06 GMT, Kyler Laird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<tirade deleted>
On the assumption that this is a genuine request for help and not just a
troll:
If you've done a full RH 5.2 install on your laptop, pcmcia support should
be there. Looking in /etc/pcmcia/config, you should find your IBM Home &
Away card listed. Have you installed the card and rebooted since doing
the RH install?? Next time you do, look in /var/run/stab to confirm which
pcmcia cards were detected. The card should be listed...
If you get that far, you should be in business. If not, post again with a
subject line more apropo to the problem.
geoff
******************************************************************
Geoff Allsup Upper Ocean Processes Group
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Woods Hole, MA, USA
******************************************************************
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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Always as root - is it dangerous?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:11:30 -0500
Nils Westerlund wrote:
> I installed SuSE Linux 5.3 two days ago and I'm really impressed so far.
> After ten years in MSWindows-environment there are some things that are
> a bit confusing. Could it be "dangerous" to always log in as root? I
> don't want to re-login or su everytime I want to mount a zip or
> something like that, and therefore I always log in as root. How do you
> guys usually do?
>
> thnx
> nisse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Always logging in as root is a bad idea. Instead, add the "user" flag to
your zip partition in /etc/fstab. Then any user can mount and unmount zip
disks.
-thomas
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From: Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Security Warning: lsof
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:33:14 +0000
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Jason Clifford wrote:
> I have now build new i386 and src RPMs for lsof based upon 4.40 with the
> authors patch for the security problem which I will upload to
> incoming.redhat.com.
I would upload these were it not for the fact that Red Hat's server(s)
appear to be down. I can traceroute to www.redhat.com but no ping or http
connects. Likewise for their ftp servers.
I don't run a public ftp server but I will make the file available from my
Demon http space. Point your browser at
http://www.dlsl.demon.co.uk/lsof-4.40-1.i386.rpm or, if you want the
source at http://www.dlsl.demon.co.uk/lsof-4.40-1.src.rpm
be carefull as by default all browsers will recognise RPM as a Real Audio
stream.
Jason Clifford
Definite Linux Systems
http://definite.ukpost.com/
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From: Guillaume Marcais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X11 & LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 09:11:13 +0000
It seems to me that X11 unset the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable when
launching. Is there anyway to make X11 be 'friendly' whith
LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
Guillaume.
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From: "David M. Plummer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PS + HP Laserjet-5L + margins
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 18:18:20 -0500
The printer has non-printable areas of about .25 inch all around the page.
Dave Plummer
Esa Tikka wrote in message ...
>On 16 Feb 1999 22:24:58 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>On Linux 2.0.36, printing Postscript to an HP Laserjet 5L using gs
>>version 4.03. Currently the printer is cutting off a couple 1/10's of
>>an inch off each edge (and I don't want that). The Postscript file is
>>a very simple file I'm using for diagnostic purposes, just a couple of
>>straight lines drawn to the edges. Looks fine on gv and ghostview.
>>
>>I've tried using ljet2p, ljet3, and ljet4 devices, no difference.
>
>Have you tried generic postscript? I've used it with LJ5L and at least I
>don't see any problems, but maybe I'm not printing all the way to edges.
>
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From: "Torsten Jenkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KPPP - Connect ... no Nameserver
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:53:55 GMT
Harri sent me the following solution which solves the problem of the
nameserver, the other problem is still the same:
> Hello, i tried to connect to the internet with Kppp and it works but i got
> the following problem:
>
> when i start the netscape navigator it doesn't find the nameserver i give
> the kppp configuration. the DNS - ip is correct configured.
>
> the ping command works to every machine and netscape works also if i type
in
> the ip-numbers, but every time the DNS should work it doesn't (every
> www-adress and every link to another www-adress)
>
> and also the first ping to any adress after the first connect let the
> ppp-demon die unexpectedly. after a few seconds it reconnects and all
pings
> work fine... but the DNS doesn't work.
>
> do anyone know about these problems? is it a bug (S.U.S.E. 5.3 KDE 1.0)
Check /etc/host.conf. What does it contain ? It should read something
like:
order hosts,bind
multi on
If 'bind' is missing your nameservers won't be queried.
Harri.
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ...a Linux RedHat Technician/Superuser ?
Date: 18 Feb 1999 09:25:54 -0500
"Jonah99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If there's any above average Linux SUPERUSER or technician out
> there that can give me a hand/hints on proper reading/learning material
> I would appreciate it very much.
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP
--
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paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.1 i586 | at public servers
Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrase
was "Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up"
(By [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sparkzz)
Subject: Re: Help unremovable file
Date: 18 Feb 1999 00:05:06 GMT
I usually have pretty good luck using one of the file managers to get rid of
strange filenames.
.
.
....Ken
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rluby)
Subject: Re: Anyone lucky with STB 128 AGP 4MB card?
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:53:44 GMT
You have got to know what **chip set** the card uses. If it happens to be the
Nvidia
Riva 128, dl the latest Xfree86 ( 3.3.3.1)
hope this helps.
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From: Gerald Pollack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.2.1: shutdown problem
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:03:17 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> G. Pollack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Since upgrading to 2.2.1, I have an occasional problem when shutting
> > down. An error message appears to the effect that / is busy. On the next
>
> This is normally a symptom as mentioned in the Changes file - which exact
> glibc are you now running ?
2.0.7-19
that is, I've installed the glibc-2.0.19 rpm (the highest-numbered one I
could find).
So, this doesn't appear to be the problem. Any other suggestions for
things to try?
Thanks,
--
Gerald Pollack
Dept. of Biology, McGill University
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From: "Torsten Jenkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: new PS/2-port and new PS/2-mouse doesn't work
Date: 17 Feb 1999 23:56:42 GMT
hello, i buied a new PS/2-Port Adapter to get a PS/2 port on my machine, so
that i can cancel my serial mouse and further use my new ps/2 logitech
mouse.
the problem is that the new ps/2 port is not recognized by S.U.S.E 5.3. So
the configuration of the new mouse with "sax" doesn't work.
how can i get the new ps/2 mouse working? (there are also two new USB-ports
on this adapter, which should work too in the near future, this should be
the same problem)
greetings Torsten
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From: "Rudy Tuypens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Solution dual-boot
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:54:21 +0100
This is possible
OR place lilo in the MBR (primary master) //the best solution
OR buy the bootmanager from Data Becker" software, and - IF THERE OR NO
PROBLEMS WITH THE A20-LINE (put it on fast and not on normal in your
setup) - you can install a "bootmenu" in a FAT 16 DOS partition, so in this
case you have just to make with fdisk a small DOS-partition and there you
can install, the bootmenu.
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From: Ralf Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen Capture in Xwindows
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:06:23 +0100
there are xwd (dump) and xwud (display dump). I'm not 100% sure wether
they exist on Linux, but they have been on all X Window Systems I know.
Ralf
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 18 Feb 1999 10:33:55 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Dyson) writes:
> In article <7afpua$96r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Linus Torvalds) writes:
> > In article <7af3sj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > John S. Dyson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>Honest GPL preamble:
> >
> > Honest John S Dyson preamble:
> >
> > I understand that you wrote the code, but I'm still going to
> > complain about the copyright you put on it. I'll spend the rest
> > of my life whining about it.
> >
> > John, just drop it. The GPL isn't for you, obviously, but it's also not
> > something that you need to complain about all the time. Just don't use
> > it if you don't like it.
> >
> Dishonest people change discussions about ideals into attacks on
> individuals. This isn't the first time that you have done this.
>
> Honest statement about my position:
>
> I understand that you wrote the code, and incorrectly and
> call your software free, and I'm still going to
> complain about the errsatz-free copyright -- only because
> it isn't free. I'll answer the question honestly when
> discussion comes up.
>
> It is those who disagree with the above who mislead, or are
> misled.
let me get this straight. it seems to me that the *entire* crux of
your argument is that GPL should not be called `free' since GPL does
place certain restrictions on derivative works. is this a fair
assessment of your opinion?
if we called it `open-source' and not `free', *then* would you be
happy? is the whole thing just about semantics?
--
johan kullstam
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:16:26 +0100
From: Fabrizio Albonico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd daemon died unexpectedly
shaithis wrote:
>
> I get the error "pppd daemon died unexpectedly" when trying
> to connect to The Internet. Does anyone know how I can get
> around this?
>
> Thank you in advance,
> BCarver
Read the documentation that came with the KPPP program, since it is described
very well. There is a section dedicated to solving this problem!!!
- Fabrizio
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============================================================================
RANDOM QUOTE:
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Fabrizio Albonico, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Student in Electrical Engineering @ Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
============================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jht)
Subject: Turtle Beach Montego (Dell OEM) with RedHat 5.2
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:02:53 GMT
has anyone been able to get the turtle beach montego pci soundcard to
work under RH 5.2? i've found drivers for other turtle beach cards,
but not this one. i really want to play my mp3's.
thanks,
jht
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Subject: Re: Novice Help: Modem Gone Undetected?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 17 Feb 1999 19:57:07 -0500
David Klecha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on 17 Feb 1999 01:14:30 GMT, wrote :
DK> Ho-kay.
DK> Yesterday I blanked my harddrive and installed Linux. I have a Compaq
DK> Presario with an AMD-k6 200mHz (233?). Everything's gone just swimmingly,
DK> including the Video card and all that djazz. Except the modem. Usernet,
DK> when used to dial a PPP connection blinks the status button to yellow,
DK> then just sits there. No activity, no nothing. Can't hear the modem
DK> dialing. I *may* have a bum length of phone cord, but I seriously doubt
DK> it. (Aside: Does usernet pop any sort of error messages if, say, it
DK> initializes the modem and fails to get a dial-tone? Or is this
DK> error-message-less function simply an indication that it can't find the
DK> modem?)
DK>
DK> Now, I just got done reading the FAQ and the Modem HOWTO, and it would
DK> seem that I may be in a spot of trouble. Linux does (may?) not support
DK> PnP and Winmodems and whatnot. Linux does (may?) not support any sort of
DK> PCI modem. Now, as of yet I haven't been back home to pop the cover and
DK> check whether or not I've got PCI or ISA, but when I popped in that PCI
DK> ethernet card, I coulda *swore* it was PCI. Is this my problem? Or is
DK> the HOWTO just out of date? I'm using Redhat 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36 I
DK> *think*), and I also coulda *swore* that the appendix didn't say anything
DK> about 56k Compaq modems being incompatible. But I could be wrong? Any
DK> help? Any advice? Comments to buzz off and figure it out for myself?
Linux does not support 'WinModems', which come as both PCI and ISA.
Because of the way WinModems are built, they require special drivers and
use large amount of host processor cycles to work. The 'special
drivers' are proprietary and not available to the Linux community and
because of the necessary close-coupling between the host CPU and the
modem, are not really suitable for a proper multi-tasking O/S like
Linux. This means it is very unlikely that Linux will ever support
WinModems.
Many 'cheaper' internal modems are WinModems. It is highly likely that
you have such a modem. The cure is to get a 'real' modem. The *best*
option (least hassle and dealer run-around) is to get an *external*
modem. *ALL* external modems are supported, since all external modems
connect to a standard (supported) com port. If com ports are scarce,
you can get a ISA com port board (such as a Boca ATIO55), to implement
port 3 and or 4.
DK>
DK>
DK> dk
DK>
DK> --
DK> _
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DK> |_ _| BofA Candidate, GVSU http://www2.gvsu.edu/~klechad
DK> | | US Marine Corps DEP Semper Fidelis!
DK> | | "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with
DK> |_| all your soul and all your mind." Matthew 22:37
DK>
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Subject: Re: loadlin equivilent for Linux?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 17 Feb 1999 19:57:08 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
In a message on Wed, 17 Feb 1999 02:46:25 GMT, wrote :
w> Loadlin works great for loading Linux from Windows 95/98 without requiring a
w> reboot. Is there an equivilent for Linux that will load Windows 95/98 without
w> a reboot? If one does not exist, how difficult would that be to write?
Loadlin *does* a reboot of sorts. Loadlin effectively shuts down
DOS/Windows and boots Linux. There is no way to avoid a reboot.
w>
w> Thanks in advance for your assistance,
w> Andy
w>
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w>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: SiS5597 / 5598 chipset
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Feb 1999 00:02:41 GMT
On Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:25:38 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Wel, perhaps "great" is too strong a word. when I tried it, there was nasty
>> >screen noise when using high-res modes.
>> >
>
>I think it's a problem inherent in the SiS 5597 chip itself. I noticed when using
>Win98 and XFree86, you can see a slight imprint of the titlebar going all the way
>across the screen. It's very slight, but it's still there.
I don't see any problems with it under winblows98, apart from the fact that it
does not seem to have a hardware cursor (ARRRGG!!)
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Emacs (Was: Re: The Arachne Browser)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 17:01:11 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karel Jansens wrote:
>
> On Sat, 6 Feb 1999 22:06:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) wrote:
>
> > It was the 6 Feb 1999 04:51:46 GMT...
> > ...and Peter Schaffter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [schnibble]
> > > Why isn't the Linux community more interested in getting something like
> > > this ported over?
> >
> > My guess is Arachne makes heavy use of i386 real-mode assembly
> > language. Strictly unportable. Arachne makes heavy use of DOS batch
> > files, too.
> >
> > And probably it does all the graphics with VESA BIOS calls, which
> > would have to be rewritten into GGI or svgalib calls, if not X.
> >
> > Porting Arachne is a *major* effort. Remember how its memory
> > management works? It uses a kind of swap daemon to swap pages between
> > lower memory and XMS. It seems to have its own font system. It's half
> > an operating system, AFAICS.
> >
> > mawa
>
> Oh no.
> Does that mean we'll soon be looking at discussions a la "Is Arachne better
> than Linux?"
/me dons aspestos underwear
Maybe, but emacs is certainly better than Linux.
/me runs away
--
Tristan Wibberley
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