Linux-Misc Digest #106, Volume #20 Sat, 8 May 99 01:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux Perl/CGI problem (Izzy)
Re: PNP Modem and Linux... (diahedrial)
Re: IPCHAINS and Web Server (brian moore)
Re: Trouble connecting to ISP using PPP ("Curt")
Re: tar (christophe)
Re: LILO, can't boot from 2nd SCSI drive. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Apatchy linux in NT enviroment (work) (Owen Synge)
Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Chris Mikkelson)
Red Hat 6.0 problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Red Hat 6.0 problem (jason)
Re: wine (Izzy)
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (Steven G. Kargl)
Re: Simple C question... (Izzy)
Re: How to setuid an executable ? (Andrew Comech)
Re: help with glibc-2.1 (Paul Kimoto)
Participate in LISA '99: Sys Admin Conference: Submission due: May 25 (Jennifer
Radtke)
Re: Ken Thompson on Linux (Juergen Heinzl)
Re: Problem with GTK & Glib ("Marin")
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From: Izzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Perl/CGI problem
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 23:41:07 -0400
Chris wrote:
> I have a counter.cgi script that can be run from the cgi-bin directory.
> This can be executed from
> any browser. The chmod of counter.cgi is 777 the same as another script
> I wrote called test.cgi
> that was nothing more than this:
>
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>
> print?Content-type:text/html\n\n?;
>
> print ?Show me the monkey?;
>
> I also did a command of : perl -c test.cgi
> It came back with Syntax ok.
>
It's okay to run the script at the command line. The print statements
should work as expected.
If it doesn't, then something is wrong with the script. (Perhaps perl is
/usr/bin/perl and not /usr/local/bin/perl. When you typed 'perl -c
test.cgi', the shell relied on your PATH).
>
> I could not access this test.cgi file. Although I can access the
> counter.cgi and the files have the
> same chmod of 777.
>
When you say access, I'll assume you mean as a URL on your local or ISP's
web server?
>
> I don?t understand why I can run the counter.cgi but not the test.cgi.
> Is there more to the permissions than just the chmod?
>
>From the file's view, not really. However, your web server (see
assumption above) may not like it for whatever the reason. If it's your
own local server, check the access and error logs.
What scripts does your web server allow to run as cgi's? Is it anything
ending in .cgi or any executable in the cgi-bin directory? Assuming both
scripts are in the same directory, either of these cases should work, but
it's good to know.
Did you write/install the counter or is it provided as an example? Double
check your URL if that's how you're trying to access it.
When all else fails, move the counter.cgi to another name (e.g.
counter.cgi.old) and put test.cgi in its place. When you access
counter.cgi, do you get the output of your script or is counter.cgi still
"magically" running? If it's the second case, you don't really have the
correct pathname of counter.cgi. You would need to find where it really
resides. If it's on your linux box, try the locate command.
BTW, don't get hung up on any these too much. See what you can find out
and post again.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christopher Nurick
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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From: diahedrial <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PNP Modem and Linux...
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 16:04:42 -0700
Don Whitlow wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have recently returned to working on my Linux system, trying to get it to
> work again. I have recently reinstalled Red Hat 4.2, and gotten most things
> working. However, I can't remember what the name of the package was that
> would allow me to set my PNP modem to be at a certain COM number, so I can
> PPP to my ISP.
>
> This used to work, and I know I had to do something to get the COM port
> moved around on my box. I just don't remember what the name of the utility
> was. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
>
> Please, no "Buy a real modem" cracks. :) It's on the list of things to do,
> but I need to get this working first.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Don
If you've used the modem under Linux before, it IS a real modem, just
an internal one. Check out "isapnp" for configuring P-n-P devices,
and maybe "setserial". Hope this is of help...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: IPCHAINS and Web Server
Date: 7 May 1999 23:39:42 GMT
On Fri, 7 May 1999 13:59:59 -0700,
Chris Montgomery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I run IPCHAINS to use a Linux box as a firewall, is it a security problem
> to also run a web server or other services on that same machine? For
> example, I would allow all traffic out from the internal network and only
> HTTP into the web server on the firewall.
If someone compromises that server, they would be able to attack the
network it's supposed to be protecting, no?
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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Reply-To: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Curt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Trouble connecting to ISP using PPP
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:00:49 -0500
Are you sure you need to be using PAP? It doesn't look like the server
you're dialing into is responding to PAP. Try it without PAP.
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: arc-2a.phx2 login:
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: -- got it
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: send (USERID^M)
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: expect (assword:)
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: USERID^M
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: Password:
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: -- got it
> May 2 23:38:49 localhost chat[1486]: send (PASSWD^M)
> May 2 23:38:50 localhost pppd[1485]: Serial connection established.
> May 2 23:38:50 localhost pppd[1485]: Using interface ppp0
> May 2 23:38:50 localhost pppd[1485]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
> May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xc6ff7c28> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru
> 1514> <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x56867921> <pcomp> <accomp> < 11
> 04 05 ea> < 13 03 00>]
> May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 < 11 04
> 05 ea> < 13 03 00>]
> May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru
> 1514> <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x56867921> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 2 23:38:51 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 <mru
> 1514> <asyncmap 0x0> <auth pap> <magic 0x56867921> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xc6ff7c28> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <asyncmap
> 0x0> <magic 0xc6ff7c28> <pcomp> <accomp>]
> May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1
> user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
> May 2 23:38:54 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
> 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
> 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
> May 2 23:38:57 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x2
> user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
> May 2 23:38:57 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
> 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
> 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
> May 2 23:39:00 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x3
> user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
> May 2 23:39:00 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
> 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
> 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
> May 2 23:39:03 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x4
> user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
> May 2 23:39:03 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
> 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
> 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
> May 2 23:39:06 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x5
> user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
> May 2 23:39:06 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
> 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
> 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
> May 2 23:39:09 localhost pppd[1485]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x6
> user="USERID" password="PASSWD"]
> May 2 23:39:09 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [PAP AuthNak id=0x0 49 6e 76
> 61 6c 69 64 20 4c 6f 67 69 6e 3a 20 55 6e 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 75 73 65 72
> 6e 61 6d 65 2e 0d 0a]
> May 2 23:39:09 localhost pppd[1485]: rcvd [LCP] 05 03 00 00
> May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
> May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Modem hangup
> May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Connection terminated.
> May 2 23:39:11 localhost pppd[1485]: Connect time 0.4 minutes.
> May 2 23:39:12 localhost pppd[1485]: Exit.
>
>
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From: christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:34:06 +0200
Ryan Green wrote:
> Can somebody please tell me how to unzip programs compressed inside
> tar.gz files??
> Please help,
> Ryan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
just type :
gzip -d your_file.tar.gz
--
=============================
Christophe JEANSON
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: LILO, can't boot from 2nd SCSI drive.
Date: 7 May 1999 23:48:02 GMT
Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" <*****@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> LILO hangs on the letter L when it tries to boot. My first drive (sd0) is a
> 9 gig Cheetah LVD and is using Win98 while the second drive (sd1) is running
> a Linux partition. [...]
You can have Linux on the second disk, but you need to install the first
stage bootloader in a bootsector on the first disk, in your case either the
MBR or the bootsector of the extended partition. See the lilo docu for
further info. (No partitioning needed unless you (a) use a software which
needs the MBR like some old driver for big drives and you dont have (b) an
extended partition.)
> BTW>I can't get my SCSI CDROM to work, it is recognized at boot-up and when
> linux loads, but I can't mount it. At load time Linux names it "sr0". I
> can't find sr0 in the /dev directory. Thanks.
maybe /dev/scd0 ... if this doesn't help you might want to look for the
device number:
someone@somewhere > ls -l /dev | grep '11, *0'
crw------- 1 root root 11, 0 Nov 15 1997 kbd
brw------- 1 root root 11, 0 Nov 15 1997 scd0
brw------- 1 root root 11, 0 Nov 15 1997 sr0
^^^^^^^ mayor 11, minor 0
and if you still don't find it, you can create it with mknod (see man mknod)
Peter
--
Peter Gritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`... so I'd rather you didn't try any last-minute stuff.'
I *AM* LAST-MINUTE STUFF, said Death, standing up.
[Terry Pratchett, Hogfather]
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From: Owen Synge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apatchy linux in NT enviroment (work)
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 19:32:57 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone else know why my http requests under lynx only work on local
host and NT netscape cant see linux, I can ping linux , ftp linux, but I
cant http:/
appatchy.
thanks
Owen
I am running SuSe 5.2 and I know the fetchmail is busted should I
recompile apatchy?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mikkelson)
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:35:44 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Sun, 2 May 1999 01:39:04 GMT...
>..and PILCH Hartmut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So, I think, RMS is not quite an anarchist communist, even in the software
>> sense.
>
>He's neither anarchist nor communist as far as I can see. ESR is
>anarchist.
Anarcho-capitalist, from what I hear. That's hardly "anarchist."
-Chris
Anarcho-capitalism -- cops, judges, prisons... nope, no government
here. It's all "privately owned."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Red Hat 6.0 problem
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 23:56:58 GMT
Hey, I just recently installed Red Hat 6.0, and I'm
facing an extremely frustrating problem. At random
times, it just freezes up for no reason and I have
to reset the computer (feels like a windows system).
I've NEVER had this problem until I upgraded to RH6.0
(and yes I did a CLEAN format install).
My system is like this:
Celeron 300A (not overclocked)
64mb ram
STV Velocity 128 video card
SB AWE32 PNP Sound Card
SMC Etherenet Adapter
3D Blaster Voodoo2
now, as I said I never had this problem until RH6.0.
It happens while using Netscape. It happens while
sitting on IRC. It happens a LOT while playing Quake.
Video is fine. GL works fine. Sound works fine. The
computer just dies after a while. I have no clue
where to even start looking for the problem. There
is nothing in the log files, and a core file never
appears anywhere either.
Any ideas on what I can do to start tracking this
problem down? This is really frustrating, between
this and Windows refusing to recognize my ethernet
card all of a sudden, my computer is pretty much
unusable.
(BTW: I don't think it's my ethernet card which the
wording of what I said above might hint at).
Please CC: a response via email, thanks!
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat 6.0 problem
Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 23:33:57 -0400
Just a long shot, but it could be heat. This *exact* thing happens to
me if it starts getting warm in the computer room (investigation showed
this to be when my computer's motherboard reports temperatures of 38+
Celsius). It just freezes, no logged error messages, no response from the
magic Alt-Sysrq keys, nothing. I have not had the problem since we
turned on the air conditioning here. It was really frustrating to figure
out, since I too had changed several variables in my computing environment
around when the problems started.
Hope this helps,
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: Izzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: wine
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:22:49 -0400
It sounds like you've mounted your dos filesystem as fat and not vfat.
Try this:
umount /dos_filesystem
mount -t vfat /dev/dos_partition /dos_filesystem
OR
change it in /etc/fstab
If you get an error about vfat not supported, try running 'insmod vfat'.
Then try again.
Investigate these more . Once things work, be sure to make your changes
permanent
BTW, if you haven't used wine before, start out with sol.exe and work
your way up. Also, there's a HOWTO on running starcraft on linux. I
think it's at www.linuxgames.com.
Eric
Anup Rao wrote:
> I'm trying to run starcraft on wine.
> The file i'm trying to run is brood.exe on my windows partition. So i
> punched in wine brood.exe, and came up with the error starcraft.exe not
> found. starcraft.exe is in the same directory, it's just called
> star~1.exe. Anybody know how to fix this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> ********
> Anup Rao
> CmpE
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (404) 206-0318
> ########
--
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: 08 May 1999 00:43:43 GMT
Tor Slettnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: In FreeBSD's case, it makes sense to put items from the ports collection
: into /usr/local - that's because those are programs you essentially get
: and build on your own. They do not have an uninstaller, similar to
: Debians 'dpkg --purge <packagename>', and so manual surgery is needed.
: That's why they are in /usr/local - so that
: /usr remains free from cruft.
Wrong. See `man pkg_delete' as well as the deinstall port make
target. Ports are registered in the same database as packages and
so all the tools are the same. No manual surgery is required in
nearly all cases.
: Now, the difference between ../bin and ../sbin is a little more unclear.
: It used to be that static binaries went into sbin, and binaries linked
: against a library in ../lib went into ../bin. Nowadays, however, more and
: more people seem to have the idea that 'sbin' is for system administration
: utilities.
I've never seen a system where sbin wasn't sysadmin tools. Do you
have any references to this static vs non-static design?
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My code is filled with comments! It's just that my comments are
written in Perl.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven G. Kargl)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Date: 8 May 1999 00:39:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tor Slettnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[Deleted -- but genreally aggreed upon]
> In FreeBSD's case, it makes sense to put items from the ports
> collection into /usr/local - that's because those are programs you
> essentially get and build on your own. They do not have an
> uninstaller, similar to Debians 'dpkg --purge <packagename>', and so
> manual surgery is needed. That's why they are in /usr/local - so that
> /usr remains free from cruft.
You have some minor misinformation about FreeBSD.
man pkg_delete
pkg_delete(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual pkg_delete(1)
NAME
pkg_delete - a utility for deleting previously installed software package
distributions
--
Steve
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From: Izzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple C question...
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 00:32:55 -0400
Do a 'man getchar' to see if that suits your needs.
Julio De Gregorio wrote:
> Hi!,
>
> I'm trying to re-compile a program that i did with Borland C.
> I used the 'getche' function. There doesn't seem to be a function
> like that under gcc... (at least in the standard libraries).
>
> I need a function to read a character from the keyboard without echoing
> it to the screen.
>
> Thank you a lot!
--
We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the
machinations of the wicked.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Subject: Re: How to setuid an executable ?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 7 May 1999 19:20:58 -0500
On 07 May 1999 23:38:11 +0200, Desmond Coughlan wrote:
>christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I'd like to allow others users (than root) to
>> execute pppd. What shall I do ?
>> I don't want to chmod 777 /usr/sbin/pppd
Sure: this is too generous...
>
>I think you need to create a new group, call it ppp (for example),
There is already some group (in my distribution, it is `dip').
>and then assign execute permission to pppd, allowing execution by group
>ppp. I don't use ppp anymore, so I'm guessing, but I imagine, you
>need:
>
>-rwx--x--- 1 root ppp 106536 Jun 5 1998 /usr/sbin/pppd-2.3
I also needed to "set user or group ID on execution (s)":
-rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip 105532 Jun 18 1998 /usr/sbin/pppd*
^
otherwise that thing refused to work (this may be Debian-specific).
This is done by chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd
>In /etc/group you need:
>
>ppp::101:userx,usery,userz ...
This is better be done by e.g. adduser userx ppp
(except for it could be not `adduser' but `useradd', and that the group is
not necessarily ppp).
Only "real wizards" add users editing /etc/{passwd,shadow,group} manually...
Best,
a.
--
Looking for a Linux-compatible V.90 modem? See
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: help with glibc-2.1
Date: 7 May 1999 20:55:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Fran�ois Patte wrote:
> I have loaded the glibc-2.1 and have a lot of problem now:
> /usr/local/MuPAD/share/bin/../../i386/bin/mupad: error in loading shared
> libraries: libg++.so.2.7.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file
> or directory
>
> 3- g++ no more works:
>
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot open -lstdc++: Aucun fichier ou r�pertoire de ce
> type
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
> checking for c++... c++
> checking whether the C++ compiler (c++ -O2 ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler
> cannot create executables.
The glibc-2.1.1-pre2 FAQ says:
: 2.21. What do I need for C++ development?
:
: {HJ,AJ} You need either egcs 1.1 which comes directly with libstdc++ or
: gcc-2.8.1 together with libstdc++ 2.8.1.1. egcs 1.1 has the better C++
: support and works directly with glibc 2.1. [...]
: If you're upgrading
: from glibc 2.0.x to 2.1 you have to recompile libstdc++ since the library
: compiled for 2.0 is not compatible due to the new Large File Support (LFS)
: in version 2.1.
This may apply to your situation.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jennifer Radtke)
Subject: Participate in LISA '99: Sys Admin Conference: Submission due: May 25
Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 00:33:04 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: Ken Thompson on Linux
Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 04:35:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Rodriguez wrote:
>I think it is pushing it a bit to say that using
>Linux has become "politically correct". Speaking
>for myself, I started using Linux in a business
>environment about a year ago after playing around
>with it for a couple of years. It would be hard to
>find anyone less politically correct than myself,
>I venture to say. My reasons for using Linux as my
>platform of choice for my business are:-
I knew somewhat would take it personally 8) ... let
me say it this way ... when I started some people
laughed at me, "toy system" and such. Now, quite some
years later the same people not only are in Linux too
... some even do as *they* are the ones who "always knew
it".
Add to that all that M$ bashing which is really often
not going just somewhat too far.
>1) Reliability and configurability (both either
>minimal or completely lacking in all the MS
>so-called operating systems I have used).
Yup, but what about, say FreeBSD and NetBSD ... older
than Linux, but less publicity.
>2) Huge resevoirs of support (such as we find
>here).
... and and all the other *nix groups.
>3) Absolutely brilliant exploitation of the Intel
>chip(s). I am still using my trusty P166 which
>seems to run all my programs faster with Linux
>than the very latest hardware I have looked at in
>the stores does with Windows apps.
I does the job faster and in my opinion it always
did and in my experience a well configured system (and
I just love and pamper my machines) beats any NT
installation hands down. Some things are for sure
releated to real NT features though more features,
more complexity, more bug and finally less people
who really know what is going on at all.
>I must admit I find Ken Thompson's comments hard
>to take. I was using Unix in a large office
>situation quite a few years ago, and after leaving
>that job, although I was never quite convinced by
>the arrival of MS Windows, I have to say that had
>it not been for Linus Torvalds, I don't think the
>wonders of Unix would ever have aroused as much
>widespread interest as they now do.
Some are hard to take but others ... he's techie
and so I can live with somewhat blunt language.
Some things depend to what he's comparing Linux
and keep in mind that in IT the next goal is an
availability of 99.9+% and there are systems where
you can even change a CPU board without shutting
the whole thing down.
How he came to the conclusion Linux would be less
stable than NT ... I *do* wonder, believe me. Must
have been kernel release 0.1 just before a powerfailure.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: "Marin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with GTK & Glib
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:47:02 +0200
/sbin/ldconfig
if wrong after thet erease old files
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dump "_removeit" for replay
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hylke van der Schaaf wrote:
>
> > Jason Bond wrote:
> > > Gtk requires Glib so after I install Glib (which looks like it
> > > installs without any problems) which installs itself into
> > > /usr/local/lib/glib...ok so when I go to try and install gtk and I run
> > > ./configure, it says that it can't find glib...more precisely:
> > > checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.1... no
> >
> > After installing glib1.2.x, did you run ldconfig as root?
> > if not -> do so...
> >
> > Cya,
> > Hylke
>
> Hmmm...ok...my system doesn't seem to be able to find ldconfig...this is
> what I get:
>
> (root@blah: ~/glib-1.2.1) ldconfig
> bash: ldconfig: command not found
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Jason
>
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