Linux-Misc Digest #692, Volume #20 Fri, 18 Jun 99 22:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscape problem w/Apache (John Hovell)
linux s/w engineer position available ("L.C. (Laurentiu Badea)")
Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please ! (Alain Southiere)
Re: Mindcraft Times Three Microsoft (Alex Lam)
Samba file caching problem (XuYifeng)
Re: Still need to know (jik-)
Re: Internet Monitoring (Ben Short)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (David Kastrup)
A problem with my soundcard. (Chhabra)
Re: Can't boot linux anymore from HD (Brian Vicente)
Re: chap (Ben Short)
Re: Netscape problem w/Apache ("Brent Davies")
checking if variable exists ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux vs Linux? (Peter Eddy)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Johan Kullstam)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Internet Monitoring (Ummm)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News ("Stuart Fox")
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From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape problem w/Apache
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:20:20 GMT
Brent --
Brent Davies wrote:
> I have restarted the httpd service every time that I change anything. Just
> to be safe, I did it again after receiving your posting. No good.
>
> The DirectoryIndex line in srm.conf has a list of files to look for. The
> order is:
>
> index.htm
> index.html
> index.shtml
> index.cgi
>
hmm... doesn't this just cover index files? I don't know what version of Apache
you are running but, (I'm running 1.3.6)
I would most likely add a line to srm.conf:
# Added by you, put this here so you know where it came from (date)
AddType text/html .htm
This should definitely work.
Feel free to e-mail me if its still not working.
-John
>
> That's it. If you can remember what you did to fix this, please let me
> know.
>
> Thanks,
> Brent
> John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You were right about the .htm being the problem. Have you restarted the
> web
> > server since you changed httpd.conf? I had this same problem. I forget
> if
> > there were additional steps I needed to make in order to fix this.
> >
> > Good luck
> > -John
> >
> > Brent Davies wrote:
> >
> > > I am using RH 5.1 and Apache for my web site. I developed the website
> with
> > > Hot Metal Pro. The problem is with Netscape Navigator. When I address
> the
> > > URL I get the main page the way I should. From that point forward, no
> > > matter how many links I click on, only the raw HTML code is displayed in
> the
> > > Netscape browser. Internet Explorer works perfectly.
> > >
> > > I thought it might be the fact that all of my web pages use the
> extension
> > > .htm instead .html, but I made sure that the .htm extension is in the
> search
> > > order in httpd.conf.
> > >
> > > Has anyone seen this behavior before? Any help will be greatly
> appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > -Brent
> >
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From: "L.C. (Laurentiu Badea)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: linux s/w engineer position available
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:21:35 GMT
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Strong knowledge of web and distributed systems architectures is also
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Network Admin @ InfoStreet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alain Southiere)
Subject: Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please !
Date: 19 Jun 1999 00:22:15 GMT
On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:20:17, Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I double-checked and the computer has 40MB, not
20MB...
> With 20M of RAM forget the following:
> 1.) running KDE w/o 30M of permantently used swap
So, with 40MB, it should be OK, although a little
tight, right ? As for swap space, it's not really a
problem, the disk is big enough (1.3GB) and I'll do
a rather minimal install, so there should be no
shortgage of disk space... I'll problably reserve
somehwere between 40MB and 100MB for swap (any
advice on this point ? I think I once read that
anywhing above 64MB was pretty much a waste...).
> 2.) running netscape 4.xx versions more than a few minutes (ns 4.xx
> usually grow
> to more than 40M on my machine)
Hmmm, seems it would still be a little tight in
40MB... How's Mozilla progressing ? If it's usable
enough, it could be an option. Opera too, maybe ?
> 3.) running StarOffice w/o coffee-break after clicking *any* menu entry.
> 4.) Installing one of the monster ditro's SuSE and RedHat out of the box
> (they
> use too much disk space and - in case of SuSE at least - far too
> much
> processor time. Debian is way faster than SuSE.
Well, I'm far from beeing a Linux expert, but I
won't have problems "scaling down" an installation
for this use. Most server features will go out the
window, along with most development tool and power
user features... After all, they're newbies who only
require net access and some productivity software !
> These are my experiences. I'll show you something about my currently
> running system:
[ps output snipped fro bievety...]
Well, it seems X+KDE+Netscape just might be
usable in 40MB after all !!!
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Software developer | say a stupid thing, it is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | still a stupid thing.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mindcraft Times Three Microsoft
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:32:32 -0700
L J Bayuk wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >The first Mindcraft report was muddled in execution, and we were
> >lucky that there was so much negative press about it, mostly for
> >a good reason. But it also showed that Apache and Linux both
> >have performance weaknesses which need to be addressed.
> >In effect we got the benefit from the benchmark without the
> >bad publicity. Microsoft is pissed off because of this.
> >Mindcraft wants this as well, because their reputation got
> >hurt badly the first time around.
> >...
> >It is our right to do refuse participation until we are ready
> >- after all, one of the main strengths of OSS is that stuff
> >isn't released until it's ready. But instead, we are playing
> >directly into Microsoft's hands.
>
> Here's what I would do: agree to the benchmark, provided that
> performance/price ratio is the bottom line. So, even if NT Server comes
> out 100x faster than Linux, at $800 per licensed box, versus Linux at $0
> per box, why that must make Linux infinitely superior. (But we already
> know that.)
No, I really don't mind if I have to pay for a *truly* good product.
Programmers
got to eat too, you know. Can't work for free for even.
The main point for me is. Even if NT is a zillion times faster than
Linux.
But with all the weekly crashes, and all the weird problems that keep
popping up every now and then... All the speed in the world is
meaningless.
Just like going to drive on a long trip, say, from LA to New York. NT is
the latest
wiz-bang super speeder Formula One race car, can do 200+ mph easily, and
Linux is your garden variety Toyotas and Hondas. Who do think will
reach NY first? (remember, no riding mechanic is allowed.)
I use Linux, BSD and NT. I'd rather choose stability and reliability
over pure speed. And Linux is fast enough for most duties it's normally
assigned to.
Alex Lam.
*Remove all the upper case Xs if reply by e mail.
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From: XuYifeng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Samba file caching problem
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:31:54 +0800
Hi,
I am using RedHat 6.0, I found a annoying samba problem:
in samba faq, I found a problem that Windows machine can not see
changes
on linux samba file, but I have an opposite problem: samba client can
not see
changes on files in NT box:
- use smbmount mounts NT directroy on Linux box.
- create a file on a NT box
- view the file on a Linux box
- change the file on the NT box
- look at the file again on the Linux via Samba and the changes are not
visible
did anyone encounter this problem and how to resolve the problem?
Any help will be apprecicated,
---
XuYifeng
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Still need to know
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:31:09 -0700
> What's wrong with the README.eltorito file that comes with mkisofs?
It is simple then to make a bootable CD. First create a file, say
"boot.img"
which is an exact image of the boot floppu currently in use.
You don't have to change where it looks for the ramdisk or anything???
One caveat - Your boot floppy MUST load any initial ramdisk via LILO,
not the kernel ramdisk driver!
Where do you put it?? I have looked at my bootable slackware CD and
have not found any of the stuff this README speaks of as being
necissary.
>
> It's not that hard to find ...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: Internet Monitoring
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:32:43 +1000
In article <7kdg4g$gnl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, steven.grzywinski@superior-
group.com says...
> anyone know of an internet monitoring package for Linux... using Little
> Brother on NT now and I'm tired of rebooting it every other week and
> losing my stats.....
>
> thanx..
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
How do you mean monitoring? Just traffic going through the network and
internet connections?
I personally like to use iptraf, as it allows you to monitor network
connections, and gives detailed traffic statistics, which can all be
logged at a predetermined interval.
Its somewhere in the sunsite networking area..its been so long since I
have visited sunsite, I forget where ;)
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From: David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: 19 Jun 1999 02:33:06 +0200
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> small arms did bring democracy to europe. feudalism came before.
Tell that to the Greek. They will be disappointed to hear that
feudalism came before ancient Greece and Athens. And what small arms
exactly started democracy atseveral hundred years BC did you say?
> > You are not mixing up periods, per chance? The area of knighthood was
> > ended by the longbow and the crossbow, as well as the Mongolians.
> > There were quite a few butcherings before the message was got
> > across.
>
> the crossbow is a democratic weapon in that most anyone can use it.
But it is not an affordable weapon. It needs a specialist to build it.
> muskets, rifles, crossbows and longbows are cheap and available to the
> masses. this allowed democracy to flourish.
If you are talking about the French revolution (not much democratic
before that in core Europe), I am afraid that the weapons have been
more like pickaxes, pitchforks and guillotines.
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From: Chhabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A problem with my soundcard.
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 05:40:55 +0400
I am a Linux newbie. Could anyone out there spare a bit of time to help me ?
I am unable make sndconfig detect my soundcard (Avanche Logic), which works
perfectly fine under Win 95. The setting for the ports on Win95 (if they have
any meaning under Linux) are : Wave Audio device I/O 0220-022F H
IRQ 05
DMA1 01
DMA2 03
Internal Midi device
I/O 0388-038F H
Joystick device
I/O 0200-0207 H
External Midi (MPU 401)
I/O 02B0-02B1 H
IRQ 11
The above I/O settings for the external Midi device are not there in any of the
different soundcards listed and the interrupt request setting 11 is also not
found. Another fact : possibly unrelated : I am unable to get my Mic working
even under Win95.
The card manufacturer claims that it is Pro 16 PnP + device compatible
with Adlib, Sound Blaster Pro, Sound Blaster 16 and Windows Sound System.
It is an ALS007 card.
There are some other specs also listed but i have tried all the options
available in the sndconfig and found that nothing works.
bye for now,
Madhusudan Singh.
PS : My system : running RH Linux 5.2 (kernel 2.0.36) on a separate 2GB
partition, P-133 and 64MB RAM. Swap space for Linux = 127MB.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Vicente)
Subject: Re: Can't boot linux anymore from HD
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:43:23 GMT
You might try boot single user:
lilio: linux single
Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>last saturday I suddenly could not boot Linux from the HD anymore. When
>booting, LILO begins the boot process correctly, but after that first
>line "Loading linux..........." is written to the screen, the PC reboots
>immediately. However, it is still possible to boot from diskette (which
>takes an eternity), and LILO also lets me boot into DOS correctly (DOS
>is on my /dev/hda partition). After booting from diskette, I seem to be
>able to work absolutely without problems. Also, I don't remember any
>essential problems during the last sessions or the last shutdowns before
>the problem appeared.
>I'm using Debian Linux 2.0.34 on a P100 PC.
>I would highly appreciate any suggestions concerning possible causes of
>the failure or any advice at which parts of the system to look for
>fixing the problem.
>Thank you,
>--
>--------------------------------------------
>Thomas Ruedas
>Institute of Meteorology and Geophysics,
>J.W. Goethe University Frankfurt/Main
>Feldbergstrasse 47 D-60323 Frankfurt/Main, Germany
>Phone:+49-(0)69-798-24949 Fax:+49-(0)69-798-23280
>e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.geophysik.uni-frankfurt.de/~ruedas/
>--------------------------------------------
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Re: chap
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:37:56 +1000
In article <7kdpgk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> my isp supports chap
> i have edited ppp-secrets
> but there is error, can u tell me how to solve it?
> the connection terminated after connecting between ppp0 and
> /dev/modem
>
I think you should be editing chap-secrets, not ppp secrets.
> Jun 18 23:29:42 love chat[275]: CONNECT -- got it
> Jun 18 23:29:42 love chat[275]: send (^M)
> Jun 18 23:29:42 love pppd[274]: Serial connection established.
> Jun 18 23:29:43 love pppd[274]: Using interface ppp0
> Jun 18 23:29:43 love pppd[274]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
> Jun 18 23:29:49 love pppd[274]: Connection terminated.
> Jun 18 23:29:49 love pppd[274]: Exit.
>
>
> --
>
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From: "Brent Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Netscape problem w/Apache
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:42:45 GMT
There is one more thing, but I'm not sure if it is important.
I am using the VirtualHost directive in httpd.conf. It seems
that all of the web sites on the server are not happy with
Netscape, or vice-versa.
All suggestions are welcome!
Thanks,
Brent
John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brent --
>
> Brent Davies wrote:
>
> > I have restarted the httpd service every time that I change anything.
Just
> > to be safe, I did it again after receiving your posting. No good.
> >
> > The DirectoryIndex line in srm.conf has a list of files to look for.
The
> > order is:
> >
> > index.htm
> > index.html
> > index.shtml
> > index.cgi
> >
>
> hmm... doesn't this just cover index files? I don't know what version of
Apache
> you are running but, (I'm running 1.3.6)
>
> I would most likely add a line to srm.conf:
> # Added by you, put this here so you know where it came from (date)
> AddType text/html .htm
>
> This should definitely work.
>
> Feel free to e-mail me if its still not working.
>
> -John
>
>
> >
> > That's it. If you can remember what you did to fix this, please let me
> > know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brent
> > John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > You were right about the .htm being the problem. Have you restarted
the
> > web
> > > server since you changed httpd.conf? I had this same problem. I
forget
> > if
> > > there were additional steps I needed to make in order to fix this.
> > >
> > > Good luck
> > > -John
> > >
> > > Brent Davies wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am using RH 5.1 and Apache for my web site. I developed the
website
> > with
> > > > Hot Metal Pro. The problem is with Netscape Navigator. When I
address
> > the
> > > > URL I get the main page the way I should. From that point forward,
no
> > > > matter how many links I click on, only the raw HTML code is
displayed in
> > the
> > > > Netscape browser. Internet Explorer works perfectly.
> > > >
> > > > I thought it might be the fact that all of my web pages use the
> > extension
> > > > .htm instead .html, but I made sure that the .htm extension is in
the
> > search
> > > > order in httpd.conf.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone seen this behavior before? Any help will be greatly
> > appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -Brent
> > >
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: checking if variable exists
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 23:50:12 GMT
i want to check if a certain environment variable exists, if it
doesn't,perform some commands,if it does exist, go on as if nothing had
happened. i want to put this in the .cshrc file.
how ?
thanks in advance
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Peter Eddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Linux?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:58:19 -0400
Mike Persell wrote:
>
> My question is...I have SuSE 6.1 installed and I'm doing okay but still
> feel like I could do more with the more popular distributions like RH
> and
> Mandrake. I tried once to install RH6 and it won't find any of my NICs,
> an
> IBM Etherjet, a Netgear FA310TX or a 3COM 3c900. I bought SuSE 6.1
I'm using the Netgear card on RH 5.2. You'll probably want to use the
driver that comes with the card, instead of the default one in RedHat.
There are instructions on how to use this driver on the Netgear disk,
but one simple (though actually more work than necessary) way to do it
is to copy the tulip.c file from the Netgear disk to
/usr/src/linux/net/drivers (I think that's right, anyway just replace
the tulip.c driver in /usr/src/linux/<somewhere>) and rebuild the
kernel. I don't know about 3c900, but I've used a 3c509 (ISA) and a
3c905B w/RedHat 5.2 with no problems. I did have to update my 3c905
driver to get that particular card to work too.
> because
> it sees al the hardware in the box. I borrowed a friends Mandrake 6.0
> for
> a trial run and the same problem happened, no eth0 with any of the NICs
> installed (I only use one at a time, btw).
>
> I have been given a copy of Mandrake 6.0 for dad's day. Is Mandrake vs
> SuSE
> worth buying a supported NIC?
I doubt that, installation problems aside, RedHat offers that much more
than SUSE or any other distribution. If SUSE worked well for you, I'd
stick with it. After all, everything's available on-line. If you've
got the bulk of the system installed, you'll just need to download the
things you want to use.
Maybe if you gave an example of what you feel is lacking in SUSE, or
what you hope to get from RedHat, someone could give you some
suggestions.
Peter
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 18 Jun 1999 21:03:31 -0400
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > small arms did bring democracy to europe. feudalism came before.
>
> Tell that to the Greek. They will be disappointed to hear that
> feudalism came before ancient Greece and Athens. And what small arms
> exactly started democracy atseveral hundred years BC did you say?
the greeks in athens had a democracy of sorts, but most people were
not full citizens. still, at the time, the phalanx armed with spear
and short sword was the dominant force on the battlefield.
> > > You are not mixing up periods, per chance? The area of knighthood was
> > > ended by the longbow and the crossbow, as well as the Mongolians.
> > > There were quite a few butcherings before the message was got
> > > across.
> >
> > the crossbow is a democratic weapon in that most anyone can use it.
>
> But it is not an affordable weapon. It needs a specialist to build it.
>
> > muskets, rifles, crossbows and longbows are cheap and available to the
> > masses. this allowed democracy to flourish.
>
> If you are talking about the French revolution (not much democratic
> before that in core Europe), I am afraid that the weapons have been
> more like pickaxes, pitchforks and guillotines.
history is not often pretty.
i am not trying to make any moral judgements. i am only saying that
at certain times, the powerful weapons were distributed among many and
there was some amount of democratization. at other times, weapons are
concentrated on the few, usually due to cost, and power is
centralized. it seems to go in waves.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 18 Jun 1999 21:08:12 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Thornburg) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Richard Hickling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This discussion is going nowhere. The bottom line is that the US Constitution,
> >> 2nd Amendment, gives me the right to "keep and bear arms." End of story.
> >> I really doesn't matter what the world, or the country for that matter, would
> >> be like without guns. It's a done deal. Generate an amendment to the
> >> Constitution to change things or quit whining.
>
> An interesting question to ponder: Does that particular law also give
> US citizens the right to bear (their own privately-obtained) *nuclear*
> (or biological or chemical) arms? Should the NRA extend its slogan to
> "Atomic bombs don't kill people, people do"? (Or perhaps in the wake of
> the Tokyo subway attack, "Sarin doesn't kill people, people do".)
>
> Note that the NRA _does_ advocate that private US citizens should be
> permitted to own machine guns. I believe they also extend this to
> tanks and antitank rockets, though I'm not certain of this.
>
> But strangely, even Americans who strongly favor private gun ownership
> usually seem to draw the line at private nuclear/biological/chemical
> "arms". It's interesting to ponder why...
that's because most people can be trusted. however, *some* people
cannot. with a weapon of mass destruction that one homicidal maniac
in a million can do a *lot* of damage. for small arms, perhaps the
good outweighs the bad. with any widespread availability of nuclear
bombs, you just don't want to take the chance since you are almost
certain to lose.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ummm)
Subject: Re: Internet Monitoring
Date: 19 Jun 1999 01:11:29 GMT
>anyone know of an internet monitoring package for Linux... using Little
>Brother on NT now and I'm tired of rebooting it every other week and
>losing my stats.....
Can you do that with SyslogD?
"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering"
--Yoda from Star Wars: Episode One
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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:11:43 +1200
Jason O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7kemol$sr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >It isn't MS's problem if someone exploits the tools provided in an Office
> >app. However it might be if a product didn't work as advertised - win
3.1
> >on DR-DOS for instance.
> >Does this mean that if I wrote a virus in VB that MS would be
responsible?
>
> In my mind, yes. They created a 'feature' that has brought IS departments
> using Office to their knees. This started with the tame but annoying word
> macro virus and has now gotten quite dangerous.
>
> >>and the knowledge
> >> that anyone could exploit IIS with a single line of code.
> >Are you suggesting that *nix has no bugs? Or requires no patches to get
> >running securely? ALL operating systems have bugs that must be patched,
I
> >don't care if it's linux, NT, Solaris etc. And why has no-one found this
> >bug until now - IIS 4.0 has been out for quite a while now...
>
> Unix certainly has had its troubles, especially with sendmail. But at
> this point, most of the issues have been resolved.
Excluding of course every new app that is released, or every new update...
Open source code and
> 20 years of release time have been helpful. Meanwhile, Windows and NT
> have been used for networking for but a few years and it's pretty clear
> that this is going to continue for quite some time. MS won't get sued
> over it, they'll make a killing selling fixes instead. Or perhaps people
> will start to realize the costs and move on.
They don't sell fixes - they are free.
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