Linux-Misc Digest #692, Volume #23 Sun, 27 Feb 00 15:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape using all memory in linux (Minko Markov)
Re: Linux and tape backup (s. keeling)
Re: Lowercase all the files in a directory (s. keeling)
Re: good mp3 player for linux (Jan Schaumann)
Re: LINUX GAME: Circus Linux! initial release (v 0.0.0) ("Rodrigo Andrade")
Re: good mp3 player for linux (Bill Piety)
Re: good mp3 player for linux (Dances With Crows)
Re: LINUX GAME: Circus Linux! initial release (v 0.0.0) ("Rodrigo Andrade")
Re: Will my Windows programs run on Linux (Bob Tennent)
Re: POPQuizHOTSHOT! Cant find auto at bootup! (John Hasler)
Re: Will my Windows programs run on Linux (Dances With Crows)
logs to floppy + eject for security? (BjJbMc)
Re: Boot up graphics & screen corruption (James Hollingshead)
[Q] session object in apache.. (Hee-Chul Yun)
Re: RealPlayer (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Parallel Scanner under Linux??? (Andreas Graef)
Modem (Marcus H. Russell, P.E.)
uninstall linux (R)
Redhat 6.1? (Jason Villemaire)
ISDN and kernel 2.2.x = trouble? ("Knut A. Nilsen")
Nic config and vtoc on linux ("Nikko Odiseos")
Re: RealPlayer (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: Apache (Herb Stein)
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Subject: Re: Netscape using all memory in linux
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:16:08 GMT
Luke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm running red hat 6.0 on my machine. I need our works webpage up all
> day for members to use our homebanking. (sort of a kiosk machine) After
> about 6 hours netscape is using 40 meg or more and the harddrive is
> crunching non stop. At this point moving anywhere on the web takes about
> five minutes. I'm using Netscape 4.7 and disabled java. Any help would
> be great.
I know exactly what you mean. I noticed that on some pages that are
more than 10-15 screens long, each page-down causes Netscape to
get about 4MB more. In fact, the statistics shows that it is X that
eats up more, but it happens only after scroll-down/up with Netscape.
A temporary solution, once this starts to happen, is to minimize
Netscape and then to restore it. Sounds strange, but it releases
the extra memory. I use KDE.
Let's hope 4.72 fixes these memory leaks.
--
Minko
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Subject: Re: Linux and tape backup
Date: 27 Feb 2000 11:16:24 -0700
"james" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It just seems somehow wrong to pay for a solution that should be as free as
> the operating system
That's one of the silliest things I've ever seen. There's lots of
free backups tools available in Linux. If you insist they're not good
enough for you (and you're an idiot if so), then of course you're left
with commercial solutions, or rolling your own, of course.
Linux (and other Unix-ish OSs) offers the choice of free tools or
commercial tools. I've never seen such flexibility in the other
(commercial) small computer OSs.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software & Serv. Enquire within.
[sed 's/NO@SPAM./@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum.
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Subject: Re: Lowercase all the files in a directory
Date: 27 Feb 2000 11:27:58 -0700
Ray Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[whiz-bang perl script snipped]
Oh geez. You don't have to use the same tool for everything. Try:
#!/bin/sh
#
for f in *; do
NEW=$(echo $f | tr 'A-Z' 'a-z')
mv $f $NEW
done
Of course a little error checking might help.
For small things, perl pre-compilation will slow the process down. A
one-liner C program can be better still if you do this often.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen) TopQuark Software & Serv. Enquire within.
[sed 's/NO@SPAM./@/g'] Contract programmer, server bum.
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good mp3 player for linux
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:33:46 -0500
fconte wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a good MP3 player for linux?
>
http://www.xmms.org
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: "Rodrigo Andrade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
rec.games.video.atari,rec.games.video.classic,alt.games.video.classic,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX GAME: Circus Linux! initial release (v 0.0.0)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:38:52 GMT
>If these are the types of games I would play if I installed Linux... no
>thank you. I'll stick with windoze and play Half Life
Chill out, Linux will be dead after Windows 2000 and its consumer-oriented
counterpart start flying off the shelves. Remember OS/2?
--
RODRIGO
==================================================================
"One of the worst soloist out there is Kirk Hammet. Don't get me wrong,
he can play amazingly, his solos are pure gold, but to my ears they sound
like shit. You see I have perfect pitch, and Kirk doesn't follow scales, and
he sounds like garbage a lot of the time. People who don't have perfect
pitch can say he is amazing, but I think he sounds like shit"
-- Yngwie Malmsteen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Piety)
Subject: Re: good mp3 player for linux
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:40:43 GMT
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:07:38 GMT, fconte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a good MP3 player for linux?
>
>Thanks
>FC
If you like Winamp, then try xmms. You can use winamp skins and it's a
good app to boot. xmms has it's own website or you can grap it from
Linuxberg or Freshmeat.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: good mp3 player for linux
Date: 27 Feb 2000 13:41:47 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:07:38 GMT, fconte <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
shouted forth into the ether:
>Can anyone recommend a good MP3 player for linux?
xmms is nice, as Jan Schumann pointed out. It's the fully graphical thing
that supports Winamp skins and nifty visualization plugins. However, for
some situations, it could be overkill. mpg123 is a bare-bones
command-line mp3 player with lots of options. mp3blaster has a curses-
based interface, which is perfect for use in an xterm or something.
http://www.freshmeat.net has info on both mpg123 and mp3blaster; check
them out....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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From: "Rodrigo Andrade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
rec.games.video.atari,rec.games.video.classic,alt.games.video.classic,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LINUX GAME: Circus Linux! initial release (v 0.0.0)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:44:13 GMT
>I bet you Linux guys buy the no brand cereal that isn't in boxes, just
>so you won't let Nabixco or General Millz get rich.
Damn Kroger brand... *LOL*
>Windows has many more advantages than disadvantages versus Linux.... L
>might be more stable but I can deal with a couple of reboots so I can
>acutally use 'real' software.
Good point. The stability thing is the only thing Linux has going for it.
>If I want to play atari games I will plug in my Atari, I will not
>install some renegade OS on my PC.
Or you can use an Win/DOS emulator...
--
RODRIGO
==================================================================
"One of the worst soloist out there is Kirk Hammet. Don't get me wrong,
he can play amazingly, his solos are pure gold, but to my ears they sound
like shit. You see I have perfect pitch, and Kirk doesn't follow scales, and
he sounds like garbage a lot of the time. People who don't have perfect
pitch can say he is amazing, but I think he sounds like shit"
-- Yngwie Malmsteen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Will my Windows programs run on Linux
Date: 27 Feb 2000 18:37:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:30:26 GMT, Alan Lobo wrote:
>I am concidering changing my operating system to Linux, and I was
>wondering wheather my Windows programs (Word, Excel etc) will run on it.
>
The short answer is no. But there are several longer answers.
+ there are free alternatives on Linux that may be as good or better than
the costly bloated Windows programs you're used to
+ many Windows programs can be run on emulators (dosemu, wine)
+ any Windows program can be run on a program called VMware that
sets up a Windows "virtual computer" under Linux
+ you can dual-boot, running Windows when you need to
+ you can install some versions of Linux on a Windows partition
+ if you can access a Windows computer on a network, you can
use a program called VNC to bring up a Windows desktop on
your Linux computer (or vice versa)
So give it a try; you won't regret it if you make a reasonable
effort to adjust to a new environment.
Bob T.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POPQuizHOTSHOT! Cant find auto at bootup!
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:38:39 GMT
jazz writes:
> Registered linux user no. 164098-88940
Ian Molton writes:
> Where did you get the reg. no?
It's in your kernel. Here is a little script that will look it up for you.
#!/bin/sh
r () {
f=0
until [ `expr "$f" : ".*"` -ge $1 ]
do
f=`head -c 200 /dev/urandom | tr -dc '[:digit:]' | head -c $1`
done
return $f
}
r 6; a=$f; r 5; b=$f
echo "Registered linux user no." $a-$b
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Will my Windows programs run on Linux
Date: 27 Feb 2000 13:51:17 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:30:26 GMT, Alan Lobo
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I am concidering changing my operating system to Linux, and I was
>wondering wheather my Windows programs (Word, Excel etc) will run on it.
Windows is an OS. Linux is another OS. Programs written for one OS will
not work on another OS without special prodding. This is like putting
horseshoes on a Buick.
If you are of the mindset "I need to run Word", instead of "I need to run
a word-processing application", you're looking at it the wrong way. There
is a freely available office suite for Linux called StarOffice that
can read and write Office 97 file formats quite well; I suggest you take a
look at that. For graphics, there is GIMP, which is roughly equivalent to
Photoshop and free instead of $500.
If there's a WinXX application that you absolutely *must* run, then take a
look at VMWare. VMWare is a commercial program that allows you to run
WinXX in a window in Linux. It seems to work very well, but it requires
that you have a copy of WinXX on a local hard drive and it will suck up
all your RAM and processor cycles to do its thing... plus, it's $100.
Wine, the free Win32 emulator, might work for you but it's not complete
yet.
http://www.vmware.com http://www.winehq.com
HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \ In the MS-DOStrix,
There is no Darkness in Eternity \----\ there is no fork().
But only Light too dim for us to see \
===== Usenet: ceci n'est pas une guerre des flammes =====
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From: BjJbMc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: logs to floppy + eject for security?
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 13:56:11 -0500
Hi,
Do you think its a good, or a hairbrained idea, to have log files
and/or important system info, written to floppy and ejected at some
point during a suspected attack? No hacker can ever get one's ejected
floppy to reload itself!
Now, I may be really naive, but I thought this might be another neat
trick. Or would it result only in a lot of floppy ejection!?
TIA
James.curious guy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Hollingshead)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Boot up graphics & screen corruption
Date: 27 Feb 2000 18:46:02 GMT
On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 20:43:36 GMT, Phillip Deackes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Storm has a graphical boot up which uses the frame-buffer options
>compiled into the kernel to display a nice graphic around a central text
>area which shows the boot-up messages - a nice compromise I think
<...>
>My problem is that when I go to shutdown my system from KDM as soon as I
>get to the text screen there is screen corruption wherever the boot-up
>graphic was on boot up. It is a mess of colours. If I do ctrl-alt F2
>then ctrl-alt F1 the corruption disappears.
>
>Is there a way to ensure I get a clean text screen after exiting X? I
>have a feeling this is not specifically a Storm Linux issue.
Well it is a bit of a hack, but I suppose you could just put
"chvt 2 ; chvt 1" in a script, and then link it into /etc/rc0.d and
/etc/rc6.d as something like K02cleanup so that it gets called immediately
that kde exits.
I imagine it may be a kernel issue with the framebuffer drivers which
isn't very easily solved properly though.
James Hollingshead
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From: Hee-Chul Yun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] session object in apache..
Date: 27 Feb 2000 19:04:26 GMT
I heard that perl and php module in Apache support session object like
ASP in IIS. I wonder how this is implemented. Because HTTP request is
stateless subsequent request may be processed by seperate apache process.
So I think there should be mechanism to share session object between seperate
server processes. Plz tell me brifly or suggest documents which describe
how this is implemented. I read several documents related to apache but
they only cover basic modules.
--
Hee-Chul, Yun e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KAIST CS Dept, CA Lab. Phone : 5552(Lab), 017-755-9413
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: RealPlayer
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 11:57:37 +0100
Niels M�ller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The easiest way is probably to patch open(), write() etc in libc. No kernel
>hacking necessary. I've seen a hack that does this (although it was using
>Solaris' LD_PRELOAD feature; perhaps adding that to glibc/ld.so (I'm not
>sure exactly how that works) would be a nice thing?).
Have a look at the "fakeroot" program that's part of Debian GNU/Linux. It is
used to e.g. have non-root-users build tarballs that extract as root using
the regular tar program. Essentially, it creates an environment that is more
or less root-like, by overloading a number of glibc functions.
HTH,
--
Ray Dassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:36:07 +0100
From: Andreas Graef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Parallel Scanner under Linux???
I've got the Mustek Scan Express 6000P, and I only have drivers for
Windows.
Does anyone here know how to get a driver for a parallel scanner under
Linux or does anyone have one???
Thanks!
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From: Marcus H. Russell, P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:30:22 GMT
I built a box from parts from
computersurplusoutlet.com. Modem is from an old
486 that was ok in OS/2 and runs in the new box
when running under W98 but Caldera Linux will not
"find" it. (It is set for COM3) Do I need a
newer modem? (by the way it is NOT a win modem)
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: uninstall linux
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:30:18 GMT
I have Corel Linux on my laptop. When I installed it I did a full
install. Now when I go back to reinstall windows 98 I am unable too.
Linux has renamed my drives. How do I reinstall Windows after linux.
Need a explantion in dummy form.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:56:50 -0500
From: Jason Villemaire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat 6.1?
I'm currently running RH 6.0. Is is worth upgrading to 6.1? I've been
advised for and against an upgrade. Let me know what you think!
Thanks.
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From: "Knut A. Nilsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ISDN and kernel 2.2.x = trouble?
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:50:29 +0100
I have a Dynalink TA64 ISA PNP ISDN adapter (AKA Asuscom I-IN100-ST) which
has previously worked quite fine under RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.0.36 and the
corresponding isdn4k-utils (2.0 something?). It also works under Win98 on
the same computer (which is the reason I can write this post...)
I am now trying to get the same system to work with Slackware 7 (kernel
2.2.13, Hisax driver compiled as a module, isdn4k-utils 3.1 beta something).
Everything looks beautiful; isapnp finds and initialises the board, I dial
and hook up to my ISP and everyone are happy (see the enclosed listing from
/var/log/messages).
Until I try to actually _do_ something (e.g. ping). When running X, the
computer freezes instantly, including mouse and keyboard, which makes me
feel like I am running Win98 again :-(
In terminal mode, I get the following message:
Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000004
current->tss.cr3=0a5a7000, %cr3=0a5a7000
*pde=00000000
Oops:002
CPU:0
EIP:0010:[<c0167c86>]
EFLAGS:00010046
eax: cb7257a0 bx:ca7c7444 ecx:00000246 edx:00000000
esi: ca7c7400 edi:ca7c7400 ebp:ca7c7444 esp:ca593e0c
de:0018 es:0018 ss:0018
process ping (pid 198, process nr 31, stackpage ca593000)
stack: ca593eec 00000400 151813c2 ca7c7444 00000028 cb969900 c01826d9
ca7c7400
00000000 00000000 ca593e48 00000000 ca7c7400 ca593f6c ca593f6c
c0186d0b
c0186c70 ca7c7400 ca593f6c 00000400 00000000 00000000 ca593e74
ca6601ac
Call Trace:
[<c01826d9>] [<c0186d0b>] [<c0186c70>] [<c0164c36>] [<c0186bfc>]
[<c016590a>] [<c016558b>]
[<c01118e9>] [<c011168e>] [<c0164eb7>] [<c0130a4f>] [<c016610b>]
[<c0107a8c>]
Code:89 5a 04 89 13 c7 00 00 00 00 00 c7 40 04 00 00 00 00 c7 40
/var/log/messages looks like this:
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: Local number: mynumber, Remote number:
51526955, Type: outgoing
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: PHASE_WAIT -> PHASE_ESTABLISHED, ifunit:
0, linkunit: 0, fd: 7
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: Remote message: Access permitted for user
"my username"^M
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: MPPP negotiation, He: Yes We: Yes
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: CCP enabled! Trying CCP.
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: CCP: got ccp-unit 0 for link 0
(protocol:0x80fd)
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: ccp_resetci!
Feb 19 15:29:22 marvin ipppd[299]: ccp_resetci!
Feb 19 15:29:23 marvin ipppd[299]: local IP address 212.33.131.205
Feb 19 15:29:23 marvin ipppd[299]: remote IP address 212.33.131.70
/var/log/syslog:
Feb 19 15:29:21 marvin ipppd[299]: ioctl(SIOCGIFADDR): Cannot assign
requested address
Feb 19 15:29:22 marvin kernel: ippp: no decompressor defined!
Feb 19 15:29:51 marvin last message repeated 5 times
Feb 19 15:30:51 marvin last message repeated 6 times
Any good ideas?
Could it be that the 'Cannot assign requested address' message has something
to do with the IO address of the ISDN board and a potential hardware
conflict. The board has the same addresses (IRQ5, IS 0x0100) as under Win98
and all other boards are PCI. No conflict is reported by isapnp.
I have also tried kernel 2.2.14 and the very latest versjon of the ISDN
drivers and utils from ftp.franken.de
I really can't figure this out. Any help is appreciated!
TIA
Knut Nilsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Nikko Odiseos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Nic config and vtoc on linux
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:00:50 GMT
What is the Linux equivalent for vtoc and mnttab on SRV4?
Also, How can I configure my NIC. If I cat /proc/pci, it sees it. I set it
up with an ip address in linuxconf but then when I run ifconfig, only the lo
shows up. When I ifconfig eth0, it does not include any ip address. HElp!
Thanks.
[email protected]
Get rid of the $ to reply
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: RealPlayer
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:00:11 +0000
Niels M=F6ller wrote:
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt) writes:
> =
> > (One could possibly patch the Linux kernel so it would intercept the
> > stream of IP packets from the source to the RealPlayer application
> > to "fool" it into believing it was a real Internet connection -- or
> > do RealPlayer get round that by having a 2-way conversation and
> > encrypting it differently each time?)
> =
> The easiest way is probably to patch open(), write() etc in libc. No
> kernel hacking necessary. I've seen a hack that does this (although it
> was using Solaris' LD_PRELOAD feature; perhaps adding that to
> glibc/ld.so (I'm not sure exactly how that works) would be a nice
> thing?). It was about 100 lines of code.
> =
> =CCntercepting the data as it is written to /dev/audio works fine no
> matter how well the data is encrypted on its way over the net.
The program was called vsound. You can search for it on freshmeat.net.
Unfortunately, the program didn't work with the latest (G2?) version
of the realplayer but I managed to hack it so that it did work. I
have tried contacting the original author (James Henstridge) without =
any luck. I'm thinking that I may take it over if he can't be contacted.
Cheers,
Erik
-- =
+-------------------------------------------------+
Erik de Castro Lopo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win.
2) You cannot break even.
3) You cannot get out of the game.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Herb Stein)
Subject: Re: Apache
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 19:36:11 GMT
The install procedure also puts a manual (of sirts) in html format in
someplace like: /usr/local/apache/htdocs/manual
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andy Hill"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The official Apache documentation can be found at www.apache.org
>
>Andy Hill
>
>
>Knud Schlosser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:HaQt4.261$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Does any body have a good apache manual they can send me or give me the
>link
>> to.
>>
>>
>> --
>> M.V.H.
>> Frederik Schlosser
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>
>
--
Herb Stein
The Herb Stein Group
www.herbstein.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
314 215-3584
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