Linux-Misc Digest #821, Volume #20 Mon, 28 Jun 99 07:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Voodoo Banshee SuSE 6.0 ("Frederik Meerwaldt")
HELP !: how configure SB PCI 64 (chipset ES1370) ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
help me please, URGENT ("Thierry BUCCO")
[root=?](initrd) (jauming)
Re: perl script for URLs? (Jon Skeet)
Re: Connecting to a WAN (Enkidu)
Re: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive (Peter Christy)
Re: Advice? - Should I recompile the kernel?
Re: Mounting a SCO OpenServer 5.0.2 Filesystem in Linux? (Paul Sherwin)
Re: Documentation issues. (Paul Eggert)
Re: script for Pine (Erwin Waterlander)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Richard Hickling)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Richard Hickling)
FREE 4GL Compiler for Linux (Mehdi Afshar)
Re: Documentation issues. (Russ Allbery)
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Russ Allbery)
Re: can't run executable (Villy Kruse)
Re: can't run executable (De Messemaeker Johan)
Netscape bus error (Anita Lewis)
Re: COMMERCIAL: BitWagon Software LLC introduces Chaperon memory access (Klamer
Schutte)
Re: Why are things so screwy ?? (Andre Poenitz)
leafnode ("Daniel Wagner")
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From: "Frederik Meerwaldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,fido.ger.linux,maus.computer.linux
Subject: Voodoo Banshee SuSE 6.0
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:03:20 +0200
Hi all,
I installed SuSE Linux V6.0 on my Amd K6-2 300 3Dnow! with an ELSA
Victory II Voodoo Banshee 16 MB card inside.
I downloaded the following files in an empty dir in my linux system:
Device3Dfx-2.1-2.src.rpm
Glide_V3-2.60-6.i386.rpm
XFree86_3DFX-SVGA-3.3.3-5.i386-rpm
XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5.i386.rpm
XFree86_3DFX-rushlib-3.3.3-5.i386.rpm
I did a 'rpm -Uvh Device3Dfx-2.1-2.src.rpm' and the screen output was:
Device3Dfx ##############################
Then I deleted the file Device3Dfx-2.1-2.src.rpm and did a
'rpm -Uvh *.rpm' and the screen output was:
failed dependencies:
libNoVersion.so.1 is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
XFree86-VGA16 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5
libtel.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5
libtk.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5
What shall I do???
Please help. U R G E N T. Pleaaassseeee...
Thanks in advance,
Freddy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HELP !: how configure SB PCI 64 (chipset ES1370) ??
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:40:10 GMT
Hi there,
I'd just like to know whether I must do anything else but
choosing the option "ES1370" in the Sound section when I
recompile my 2.2.8 kernel (I have a SB 64 PCI from Cr. Labs).
I've done that, but clicked 'N' to the "100% SB compatibles...",
section, and I get something when I do a
> cat blink.au > /dev/audio
but it sounds pretty bad and distorted...
My questions:
1- Should I click somewhere else in the Sound section of the
command 'make xconfig' ??
2- Are there further steps to perform to configure a sound
card on linux (my output when I boot is not satisfying cause
I get nothing between the 2
Sound initialization started
Sound initialization complete
lines, and my /dev/sndstat file has its Card Config
section correct BUT between parentheses, and I know these
lines SHOULDN'T appear inside parentheses...)
Could anyone help ??
Thanks a lot !
Seb
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From: "Thierry BUCCO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help me please, URGENT
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:37:06 +0200
Hi,
in the top of my program, i redirect stdout & stderr in a file, like this :
stdout_file = freopen("/root/stdout.txt","a",stdout)
stdout_file = freopen("/root/stdout.txt","a",stderr)
and i modify his buffer's size
setbuf(stdout_file, NULL);
In fact i want to retrieve all stdout and stderr information, and put then
into a file. The problem is : the file is created, but there's nothing into.
I must stop my program to see information (empty buffer ?)
How can i resolve my problem ?
Thanks in advance.
Thierry - FRANCE
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From: jauming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [root=?](initrd)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:59:13 GMT
which device name should i use for "root=" (/dev/ram?)
if im using "initrd"?
thx in advanced!:)
btw, is it necessary to do device_setup() before mount_root()?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: perl script for URLs?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:01:37 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Of course it isnt anything to do with Perl but I think that you might
> either want to replace that "\n" on every row with "<BR>\n" or use
> a list as Bart suggested .
Whoops, doh :)
Indeed. Hopefully the original poster can work that bit out :)
--
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Connecting to a WAN
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:16:58 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You are not going to get anywhere unless you get the cooperation of
the network people.
Cliff
Evan Panagiotopoulos wrote:
>
> In my school they have begun installing a WAN. Everything is done
> with a lot of secrecy, and no one has any answers to my questions!
>
--
Cliff Pratt, CAP Consulting
Web build, web design. HTML, Javascript, CGI, ASP, Web Consulting
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 025 246 7747
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From: Peter Christy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Getting Ftape to work with a Ditto 2GB Parallel Port Tape Drive
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:31:20 +0100
If you get any joy, I'd like to know the answer too.....!!!!
Pete
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Chris O'Neill wrote:
>Okay, I give up....... What's the secret???? I've been mucking for
>two days trying to get my Ditto 2GB parallel port tape drive..............
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From: <>
Subject: Re: Advice? - Should I recompile the kernel?
Date: 28 Jun 1999 08:23:53 GMT
Tracy Johns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all,
>
> This is not a problem, just a question for advise.
>
> I am a Slackware user, and I have always recompiled my installation
> to match my hardware. I have installed Red Hat 6.0 at work, and
> everything seems to work right out of the box without a recompile. This
> is great, but shouldn't the kernel be recompiled to match the hardware?
> I have *not* read the manual on the subject, I wanted to get the
> opinions of others.
I would recompile it, because most of those precompiled kernels are containing
features that you will never need. This could probably slow down your system.
Also it is useful to compile a new kernel, when you would like to test your
hardware. Just take a look at the temperature on your processor, it will increase
rapidly while your are compiling (about 10 degrees/celsius).
Bye
Armin Kaiser ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.sco,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.sco.programmer
Subject: Re: Mounting a SCO OpenServer 5.0.2 Filesystem in Linux?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:26:46 GMT
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:39:21 GMT, "Binesh Bannerjee"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
> My question is regarding the System V filesystem support available in
>Linux. I currently am running SCO Openserver 5.0.2, and I'd like to boot
>Linux on an alternate drive, but be able to access the SCO drives from Linux,
>I tried enabling CONFIG_SYSV_FS on the Linux box, but it still doesn't
>recognize the drive... Is it perhaps that SCO Openserver doesn't use
>"UFS"?
>
I've never been able to get SCO Openserver disks to mount either. I
built a kernel with _all_ filesystem types supported but still
couldn't mount the partition. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Best regards, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.telinco.co.uk/psherwin/index.htm
Fax +44 (0)1865 434331 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pager +44 (0)7666 797228
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Eggert)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Documentation issues.
Date: 27 Jun 1999 22:24:49 -0700
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I have one very simple litmus test for an acceptable document formatting
>language; it has to recognize paragraph boundaries by itself without
>forcing me to type in tags (for the single most common type of markup)....
>(*roff is horrid, SGML-derived languages including HTML are either
>slightly better or slightly worse than *roff depending on my mood,...
How can you judge troff to be worse than SGML?
troff passes your litmus test (if only just barely),
but SGML doesn't even try to pass it.
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From: Erwin Waterlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: script for Pine
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:10:34 GMT
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On 25 Jun 1999, Jukka Savolainen wrote:
> Is it possible to send mail with Pine using a script? Like "elm -s subject
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] < text" send mail with Elm.
No, you can't. I asked this in comp.mail.pine and got the following two
answers. See attachements.
>
> How can I tell Mail or Elm which smtp server they should use?
>
>
> Jukka
>
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From: Richard Hickling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:34:33 +0200
> Given Europe's abysmal track record for the last 1500 years (including
> the present century) I don't think that the Europeans are in any position
> to be lecturing the US about the way governments ought to behave.
The US system of government is just another branch of the same system of tracks as the
rest of the Western world. It is now an old, dry, brittle branch in comparison with
other's of the same root (modifying the metaphore).
The US is stuck in its own self-worship. The emotion of your reply reflects that it is
almost 'sacreligious' to question 'the wisdom of the founding fathers'. Wise as they
may
have been, there are practical issues that need to be addressed today.
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From: Richard Hickling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:56:10 +0200
> Did you read about how the UK is eliminating trial by jury in many
> criminal cases? It's already been eliminated for all civil cases
> other than libel I believe.
Your incredulity would seem reasonable if trial by jury was more
successful.
The possible corruption of legal officials can be countered in other ways.
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From: Mehdi Afshar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FREE 4GL Compiler for Linux
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:18:49 +0100
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11 -Much improved API.
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From: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Documentation issues.
Date: 28 Jun 1999 02:38:56 -0700
In gnu.misc.discuss, Paul Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I have one very simple litmus test for an acceptable document
>> formatting language; it has to recognize paragraph boundaries by itself
>> without forcing me to type in tags (for the single most common type of
>> markup).... (*roff is horrid, SGML-derived languages including HTML
>> are either slightly better or slightly worse than *roff depending on my
>> mood,...
> How can you judge troff to be worse than SGML?
> troff passes your litmus test (if only just barely),
> but SGML doesn't even try to pass it.
*roff is whitespace-sensitive, which is an even worse crime. It makes the
resulting *roff code *really* hard to read and work on because you can't
just add vertical whitespace to spread things out. (And in practice, in
writing man pages, you pretty much do end up marking paragraph
boundaries.)
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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From: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.text.sgml
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Date: 28 Jun 1999 02:49:41 -0700
In gnu.misc.discuss, Christopher B Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The differences there have little to do with SGML-versus-XML; they have
> to do with the set of tools that have to be built up to handle the
> parsed results, whatever the original markup language might have been.
I don't believe this is entirely decoupled from the markup language. SGML
and XML both are a pain to deal with, and I offer as evidence that very
few people seem to want very badly to deal with them. SGML, and even some
specific DTDs, have been around for years now, and yet the number of
decent converters is still quite small and they routinely have major
problems.
To be fair here, straight TeX or LaTeX has similar problems; if you want
an output format other than DVI/PostScript/PDF, you probably don't want to
use straight LaTeX.
Personally, I think some of the reason for this is that those markup
languages tackle things like tables and image placement which are done
differently in pretty much every output format in existence. While it's
possible under some limited circumstances to convert between
implementations of the same family, my experience is that if you want your
tables and images to look decent, you pretty much have to tune them to the
output format you're trying to generate.
This is one of the places where POD is both quite nice and self-limiting.
It doesn't even try to tackle images and tables, making it *extremely*
easy to parse (I've written full-blown converters from POD to another
output format literally in about ten hours, and they produce quite
acceptable output). The language also has built-in support for tuning the
output to a particular formatting language *or more than one*. So if you
really want a table, you can pick the output languages that need the table
and then you can write it directly in those languages and be assured that
it will look right.
The drawback that comes with that is that if you do need tables and
images, you need to either be a markup language polyglot or have access to
someone who is. I personally am a markup language polyglot, so I've never
minded that part.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: 28 Jun 1999 11:55:16 +0200
In article <7l647t$pl$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Scott Lanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I agree. This isn't what I want to find out. I want to know why
>people always say putting `.' in your PATH, even at the end of
>it (and in light of bash's order of searching for command names),
>why that's a security risk.
When using linux with one user only it wouldn't make much difference
about . in the PATH. And putting it at the end not much harm would be
done. That is, unless you make a program and call it by mistake
the same as an existing command, and struggle for ever because when
you run your program it doesn't do what it is supposed to do.
Typical: compile test.c; run test and nothing happens. Run ./test,
and no problem. BTW: test is a builtin in most shells and thus not
influenced by the PATH.
For the argumets there will be a big difference between big multi-
user systems with potential hostile users with shell accounts and
single user desktop systems where the only user also knows how
to become super user.
Villy
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From: De Messemaeker Johan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:43:30 +0200
Villy Kruse wrote:
> Typical: compile test.c; run test and nothing happens. Run ./test,
> and no problem. BTW: test is a builtin in most shells and thus not
> influenced by the PATH.
It happed to me once. I felt so stupid when i found out :-))
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From: Anita Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape bus error
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:13:41 GMT
I have looked on deja.com for this and found several articles on it. I
had the bus error with 4.07 and it was recommended I upgrade to 4.61. I
did that and still have the error when running from xterm.
Supposedly the library link problem was corrected before 4.07.
I'm thinking it must be a problem with fonts. I know in the fs/config
there is a listing for 100dpi. I also not that in XF86Config, 100dip is
commented out. Does this mean I should take it out of fs/config? I
haven't tried that yet, because in the reading I did, it talked about
adding 75dpi and 100dpi in to the fs/config. Now I'm thinking that
maybe in my case I need to take 100 dpi out, because my X config doesn't
allow for it. Either that or I need to work some more on X config to
see if I can get 100 dpi. I'm just thankful to have X working.
Anita
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From: Klamer Schutte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL: BitWagon Software LLC introduces Chaperon memory access
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:58:41 +0000
John Reiser wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> BitWagon Software LLC introduces Chaperon, the most comprehensive tool for
> checking the memory accesses made by applications running on Linux x86.
> Chaperon is now available to help software developers make their
> applications more robust, and their development time more productive.
>
> Chaperon checks all data memory accesses, whether in compiled application
> code, language runtime support routines, archive and shared libraries, and
> modules loaded dynamically during execution. Chaperon is designed to work
> with no changes at all to the developer's build environment.
>
> For more information see http://www.BitWagon.com/chaperon.html .
Hi,
This looks very much like the Purify softare. Could you decsribe
differences
& similarities between these products?
Does you product detect out-of-bound accesses for data items on the
stack
(such as local variables) and for static / global data?
Thanks in advance for a reply,
Klamer
--
Klamer Schutte, E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electro-Optical Systems, TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Tel: +31-70-3740469 -- Fax: +31-70-3740654 -- Home phone: +31-79-3423924
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre Poenitz)
Subject: Re: Why are things so screwy ??
Date: 28 Jun 1999 10:50:14 GMT
vod ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Why is it then that i am getting 'failed dependecy libXaw3d.so.6' error.
Maybe you got your libXaw3d installed some other way than by using rpm.
rpm seems to be a bit ignorant sometimes ;--)
If you are sure, everything is on your system, you might as well try
rpm -i --nodeps ___.rpm
: cooledit.o(.text+0x26): undefined reference to cgettext__'
Look like "gettext" is not installed.
: required libraries.? And if the libraires were not there or not the
: required version why didnt "configure" mention those errors or inadequecy?|
Because configure scripts do not check everything. Probably something on
you system made the script believe that gettext was ok but eventually it
wasn't. Maybe configure did not check at all...
Andre'
PS:
: Any tips or solutions or comments to my above mentioned problems would
: be very welcome and much appreciated.
I wonder how much feedback you really expect given your invalid
email address...
--
Andre' Poenitz, TU Chemnitz, Fakultaet fuer Mathematik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... +49 3727 58 1381
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From: "Daniel Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: leafnode
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:08:18 +0200
Hello!
I wanted to setup a local news-server for offline reading and posting in =
my home-LAN and i decided to use leafnode cause i've heard that it's =
easy to use, but now i've got several problems.
1. With "News-Readers" like Netscape, Krn or Outlook Express i only get =
the groups and the messagecount but no messages.
When i subscribe to a ng it doesn't get listed in the directory =
/var/spool/news/interested.group (in leafnode documentation they wrote =
there should be a file with ng name for each subscribe ng.)
Can anybody help me with my problem, or should i use inn for offline =
reading/posting?
Thanks Daniel.
--=20
Java rulz! Linux rulz!
E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 41472160
WWW: http://www.computer.privateweb.at/daniel.wagner/
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