Linux-Misc Digest #921, Volume #20 Sun, 4 Jul 99 21:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Floppy boot to linux-only scsi hardrive on Win95 PC? (John)
Re: help! (slebo)
X-Windows (Soonis)
Re: Best dual cpu board for Linux recommandation needed. Thx. (Alex Lam)
Re: How can I find out my IP address? (bryan68)
Display 1/2" larger thaan screen. (Charles Koerner)
Disk Failure -- Need to Recover Data! (Henry De Gregorio)
Core at bootup (Charles Koerner)
Re: What config options are in my kernel? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: 1023 cylinder limit on Suse -why? Lilo certainly doesn't care. (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: Cheap RH6.0 CD in UK? (Tim Bourne)
Re: test 2 (Matthew Bafford)
CD-ROM Date Bug (Terry Boldt)
Re: Dial-up Connection (Ian Briggs)
Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic] (Kai Henningsen)
Re: Mounting a FAT floppy (David Goldstein)
Re: Does Java run well on Linux? ("Jim Woomer")
Re: No Xvidtune in RH 6.0??? ("Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"")
Re: Help! What could it be? (Chhabra)
Re: Floppy boot to linux-only scsi hardrive on Win95 PC? (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Re: Floppy boot to linux-only scsi hardrive on Win95 PC? (Robert Heller)
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Floppy boot to linux-only scsi hardrive on Win95 PC?
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:56:31 -0400
Hi folks, Is it a luxury to have a seperate disk dedicated to each OS
(95 & Linux) or am I just over-complicating things? Please tell me if
you have a better idea to accomplish this:
I have an old Acer Aspire P-90 Win95 PC.
The original IDE 1Gig hard drive is FULL of all Win95 stuff I'd like to
keep as-is; SO I have installed an Adaptec 1502 SCSI controller with a
Quantum XP32150 2Gig hard drive.
* I think I want the SCSI hard drive dedicated to Linux and the IDE hard
drive remain dedicated to Win95.
* I want the ability to transfer files between the two drives.
* I don't want to swap hardware to boot the other OS.
What's the best way to have both OSs co-exist?:
Can LILO be installed on my original drive, but most of Linux on the
SCSI drive? I have 10-50 MB I could give-up on the Win95 disk.
Boot from floppy when I want Linux running from SCSI hard drive?
Install a boot manager?
Which one? Any risks to my Win95 disk? Free?
Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions!
-John
PS: Please save the "Why keep 95 at all?" comments for another time. I
agree. Once I verify Linux works with ALL my hardware and teach my wife
Linux basics, I may ditch 95 altogeather.
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From: slebo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help!
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 17:01:46 -0500
jack wrote:
> hello folks,
> i've gone through a security howto and i've made a mistake somewhere.
> when i log on as any other user than root, the prompt displays "I have
> no name!@host"
> can someone explain what i've done wrong and what the fix is.
> thanks in advance for any help,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i've figured it out. i had decided along the way that i didn't like that
users could read the /etc/passwd file. after i changed the file to mode
600, users' prompts stated "i have no name!@host". also, a startx
would not work correctly. i changed the /etc/passwd file back to 644 and
it now works. don't say duh, i'm new to all this.
if anyone cares to elaborate on all this, i'd love to hear more about how
all this works.
thanks in advance,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Soonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: X-Windows
Date: 4 Jul 1999 22:30:48 GMT
Hi everybody! I've been spending the last couple of days trying to make X
work under slackware, but so far, no success... I go through the
XF86Setup, and configure everything to the way I understand it should be,
but when I start X, here's the screendump of what I get:
XFree86 Version 3.3.2.3 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: July 15 1998
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.0.32 i586 [ELF]
Configured drivers:
VGA16: server for 4-bit colour VGA (Patchlevel 0):
ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b, ET4000W32i_rev_c,
ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b, ET4000W32p_rev_c,
ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, ati,
sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, tvga8200lx, tvga8800cs, tvga8900b,
tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000, tvga9000i, tvga9100b,
tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi, tgui9430dgi,
tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682, tgui9685,
cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520, 3dimage975,
3dimage985, oti067, oti077, oti087, oti037c, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420,
cl6440, generic
MONO: server for interlaced and banked monochrome graphics adaptors
(Patchlevel 0):
hgc1280, sigmalview, apollo9, hercules
(using VT number 7)
XF86Config: /etc/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: keycodes: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: types: "default"
(**) XKB: compat: "default"
(**) XKB: symbols: "us(pc101)"
(**) XKB: geometry: "pc"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) XKB: model: "pc101"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) Mouse: type: Microsoft, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200
(**) Mouse: buttons: 3
(**) VGA16: Graphics device ID: "Primary Card"
(**) VGA16: Monitor ID: "Primary Monitor"
(--) VGA16: Mode "640x480" needs vert refresh rate of 60.10 Hz. Deleted.
(--) VGA16: Mode "320x240" needs hsync freq of 63.10 kHz. Deleted.
(**) FontPath set
to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/
fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/li
b/X11
/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,
/usr/
X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
(--) VGA16: Revision 0.
(**) VGA16: chipset: tvga8900d
(--) VGA16: videoram: 1024k (using 1024k)
(**) VGA16: clocks: 25.24 28.32 44.99 35.99 57.33 65.00 50.49 39.99
(--) VGA16: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 90.000 MHz
(--) VGA16: There is no mode definition named "640x480"
(--) VGA16: Removing mode "640x480" from list of valid modes.
(--) VGA16: There is no mode definition named "320x240"
Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.
When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Any idea? thanks!
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Best dual cpu board for Linux recommandation needed. Thx.
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:22:54 -0700
wizard wrote:
>
> Alex Lam wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I am building a server, want some recommendations on dual cpu
> > board,
> > scsi adapter and cd-rw. Stability and speed are the #1 concerns, no
> > over-clocking.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Alex Lam.
>
> Alex;
>
> Probally the best deal goning these days if you want a P2 capable board
> with a BX chipset is the ASUS P2B series. Yes this board is liked by
> overclockers but you don't have to use it that way. I think its fair
> to say that there are very few boards on the market, if any, as stable
> as this one. The board also has a fairly nice BIOS.
>
> Its just to bad that intels product line is wavering all over the
> place. It would be nice to know that we will have an upgrade to slip
> in the SLOT-1 slot a year or two down the road.
>
> The only thing you might want to consider is a board based on the GX
> series chipsets. But you will have to evaluate weather they are worth
> the money. Personally I would look at a Alpha systems if a dual P2
> machine is not going to be enough.
>
> Best of luck
> dave
Thanks for all the tips and info. I think an Alpha box will be overkill
for what I've in mind.
Thanks.
Alex Lam.
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From: bryan68 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I find out my IP address?
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 18:11:55 -0500
You guys are the greatest - that is exactly what I was looking for.....
Thanks,
Hopefully I can be of help someday
Bryan
> Is there any commands in Linux that will find my IP address. I know HPUX has
> a command called "getip". I connect to the internet using a dynamic IP.
>
> Also is there any easy way to find out my connection speed?
>
> I have been using UNIX for a couple years now but I am new to Linux.
>
> Thanks,
>
> B
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From: Charles Koerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Display 1/2" larger thaan screen.
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:29:49 GMT
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
What controls the screen size in GNOME. My display is 1/2" larger
than the screen. I have the numbers from xvidtune, but don't know
how or where to put them to make it permanent.
<br>Pete Koerner
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<br> </html>
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From: Henry De Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk Failure -- Need to Recover Data!
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:22:16 -0400
I have Slackware Linux installed on a Seagate 850MB HD. The drive seems
to be having mechanical difficulties, plus my BIOS no longer auto-detects
it. Consequently, I cannot mount the drive and get to my data.
Does anyone know of a viable utility for recovering my stranded data? A
friend and I have looked into PowerQuest Lost+Found software, but it only
supports FAT filesystems. No ext2...
Any help would be appreciated.
Hank
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From: Charles Koerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Core at bootup
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 23:26:00 GMT
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Now running RH 6.0. Every time I boot up I get a core icon in GNOME.
What is it and how can I prevent it for happening.
<br>A newbie.
<br>Pete Koerner
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</html>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: What config options are in my kernel?
Date: 4 Jul 1999 23:32:28 GMT
In article <7lojed$3p7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>How can I tell what config options my kernel was compiled with?
less /usr/src/linux/.config
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn Iwan)
Subject: Re: 1023 cylinder limit on Suse -why? Lilo certainly doesn't care.
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 22:57:30 GMT
On Sat, 3 Jul 1999 23:19:54 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Charles M) wrote:
>Does anyone know why Suse trys to enforce the 1023 cylinder limit for the
>boot partition ? Redhat's Disk Druid also scoffs at boot partitions over
>8.5 GB, but if you use fdisk for partitioning and install, it is OK. But
>Suse will not let you install Lilo on large partitions. Very annoying
>since Lilo would work fine (as shown by Redhat working) if you could just
>get past their 'error' messagebox and just do the install.
>
>As a side note on the Suse vs Redhat comparisions, I'll have to through
>my 2 cents in for Redhat. I like the fact that Suse will let me do Tcl
>with perl without tracking down downloads to get things working, but Suse
>seems to have more in the way of odd behavior traits, such as the Lilo
>limitation mentioned above.
>
>CMM
Most--maybe all--ibm-pc-clone bios cannot see above the 1024
cylinder. So all your /boot must be within this limit (typically,
this is 5-10 megs?). Suse is trying to keep you from wasting time
installing the program somewhere it cannot run from (without some
"kludge" like loadlin from an operating system installed low enough
that the bios can see it. All you need below is 1024 is /boot, or
/--if you have room.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Bourne)
Subject: Re: Cheap RH6.0 CD in UK?
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 19:56:42 GMT
On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 15:29:52 +0100, Robert Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does anyone know of a cheap source in the UK for Redhat 6.0 CD. I do not
>want to ftp download, nor do I want to pay in the region of UKP60 for a
>free OS!
>
[1] Eridani CDROM with Red Hat 6.0 -----> UKP 3.00 each.
........ made to order,..[with] all the Red Hat updates to that time on the CD.
http://www.amush.cx/linux/
[2] The Cheapbytes version at UKP2.00 from the Linux Emporium
http://www.polo.demon.co.uk/emporium.html
Both plus P&P.
P.S. uk.comp.os.linux is a good place for UK related questions - you'd probably
have received a quicker answer there.
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From: *@dragons.duesouth.net (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: test 2
Reply-To: *@dragons.duesouth.net
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 00:09:36 GMT
[CC'd]
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999 21:51:45 GMT, Joao Pinto) held some poor sysadmin at
gunpoint, and typed the following into comp.os.linux.misc:
:
Unfortunately, there seems to be a grave error in your newsposter.
I recommend you contact the program's author IMMEDIATELY.
You see, somehow, both of your test posts somehow ended up in
comp.os.linux.misc rather than some newsgroup like misc.test or alt.test.
This is a very big problem, and should be corrected as soon as possible.
Good Luck!
--Matthew
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Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 20:03:48 -0400
From: Terry Boldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD-ROM Date Bug
I have noticed a problem with the ATAPI CD_ROM driver under Linux
recently.
If I use 'ls --full-time /mnt/cdrom' to list the contents of the root
directory on the
CD-ROM (or any directory on the CD-ROM for that matter), the time
displayed
for all of the files and directories is incorrect. I have listed the
same directory under
OS/2 and DOS and the file times agree for those two systems. However,
under Linux
the file times displayed are incorrect by 3 hours. A file time displayed
as 1:15 pm
under OS/2 and DOS is listed as 16:15 under Linux. The times for files
on the hard disk
and floppies are correct. Just the file times for the CD-ROM are
incorrect. The 3 hours
added by Linux to all file times couldn't be the GMT correction, since
that should be
4 hours - and why a GMT correction (or any "correction") would be added
to file times
is suspect. Since the file times for the hard disk and floppies are
correct, I have to assume
that the CD-ROM driver under Linux has a bug. Since both OS/2 and DOS
agree (2 out of 3)
I assume that the Linux driver as the odd man out is incorrect.
I am using Red Hat 5.2, the CD-ROM is an IDE ATAPI drive.
Is this a known bug and if so is there an updated driver? I don't
necessarily need the
corrected driver myself as yet, but I need to know if this problem is
known and or corrected.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: Dial-up Connection
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 00:15:30 GMT
Carl Nocera wrote:
:Using Redhat Linux 5.2, I am able to dial into my ISP, but my username
:and/or password are not recognized therefore timing out the connection.
You *are* using the correct username and password, aren't you..?
Bill Unruh's "How to hook up PPP" is a good step-by-step guide to writing
PPP scripts -- at http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html .
Good luck.
Ian
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Date: 04 Jul 1999 23:01:00 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johan Kullstam) wrote on 28.06.99 in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> if you simply assume that people are using i386 linux, it'd be a snap
> to include a trojan horse binary (statically linked for maximum
> portability) to be installed at the make install step. scripting
> languages like perl are reasonably portable and could wreak havok as
> well. this could trap a number of unsuspecting people.
Remember the famous Internet Worm?
Remember that one of the holes it used was in sendmail?
Did you know *why* that hole was in sendmail in the first place?
So the sendmail author could get root on his main test machine, where he
didn't have the root password.
Yes, the hole was deliberate. He just forgot to take it out again for
release.
Now why is it I won't ever trust sendmail or it's author again ...
Oh, and there is this story about the hole in login that is put there by a
hole in cc so you won't ever see it in the source ... IIRC you can search
for a title like "reflections on trusting trust" or something like that.
Kai
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"... by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have it."
- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting a FAT floppy
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 1999 19:41:46 +0200
Bernhard Ernst wrote:
>
> I tried mounting a floppy disk that is FAT (FAT12 if I am correct)
> Using mount -t fvat /mnt/floppy /floppy doesn't work, I know this works for
> FAT partitions. I tried the same using /dev/fd0 instead of /mnt/floppy
> Any ideas, because in this case using a floppy is my best solution, E-mail
> costs too much (but it works), and the other Windoze98 machine doesn't have
> a network card.
>
> Bernhard Ernst
Just use mcopy to copy those files onto a DOS diskette. You do not
need to mount anything :)
David
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From: "Jim Woomer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does Java run well on Linux?
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:38:25 -0400
Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Could you share your experience with me?
> >
> > Java programs dont run well on my windows 95 PC, they are slow and cause
> > my system to hang. My PC has a 486 CPU w/ 64 MB RAM.
> >
> > I would like to learn Java programming. On this old
> > 486 PC, i am wodering if it would be better to use Linux.
> >
> > Please advise. Thank you.
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
> I get reasonable Java performance in Linux using the Blackdown port of
> the SUN JDK 1.1.7. I use the TYA1.2 JIT for accelleration and it makes
> a very noticable difference. My machine is an AMD K6-2 300 with 100Mhz
> FSB and 128MB RAM.
>
> --
> Codifex Maximus
> Look for me on irc.linux.com #linuxhelp
I run a duel boot acer 120mhz - 16mbyte ram - I have 2.0 under windows 95
and 1.1.7 under Linux. I write my programs on the Linux side and pass them
to and from the windows side via a windows partition. The programs run a
lot better and faster on the Linux side. The builds go a lot faster also. I
have a program- a fairly complex financial planner- that I converted to
Java. It does a lot of computations. The difference in the speed between C
and Java is remarkable. Soon 'll get me a 400+ machine and maybe the
difference won't be so noticible. I was thinking about marketing the Java
version but anyone with an older machine would be sending me hate mail.
Jim
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From: "Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\"" <*****@ix.netcom.com>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: No Xvidtune in RH 6.0???
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:44:23 -0400
Thanks Bob, that did the trick, but, how do you get the settings saved after
you find out what they are. My 6.0 doesn't seem to have the XF86Setup
utility that prompts you to run xvidtune at the end. I need to find a way
to save the settings. Thanks.
Ed
Bob Tennent wrote in message <7lohbh$m4p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On Sun, 4 Jul 1999 15:47:39 -0400, Spotillius Maximus aka \"Spot\" wrote:
> >What happened to Xvidtune that used to be in 5.2? I just installed 6.0
> >today and am amazed at how well it went, or at least I thought. How do
you
> >adjust the position and size of the picture after you set up X? Oh, the
> >pain. When will it end? I thought I was on my way to becoming a
seasoned
> >linux user till I got 6.0. Thanks.
> >
>Try xvidtune :+)
>
>Bob T.
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From: Chhabra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! What could it be?
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 06:04:56 +0400
Check your timeout settings. It is possible that after there has been an
absence of activity (unlikely) for some time, the dialler decides that the host
is dead.
Best wishes,
Chhabra.
On Sun, 04 Jul 1999, Denis wrote:
>Hi, I have a strange problem when I'm connected to my ISP (which is a
>modem conection to Duke). What is happening is that once I connect and
>say surve the web for a while, all of the sudden my netscape can't
>connect to any place anymore (I get "Connect: Looking up host:
>www.blahblah.com" and nothing happens), or I can't send any email with
>my email (kmail) program, nor can i telnet. I noticed that if I
>reconnect (i.e. disconnect and then connect back again) it again works
>for a while (say 7 minutes). At the same time if from the beginning I'm
>listening to some live real audio, then it sometimes stops as well,
>while sometimes DOESN'T!
>
>So I dont understand what is going on. Please, help with your thoughts
>on that.
>thanks.
>denis
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Collin W. Hitchcock)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy boot to linux-only scsi hardrive on Win95 PC?
Date: 04 Jul 1999 20:53:49 -0400
General comments:
OK, assuming that your BIOS boots from the first IDE drive (your old
drive), your best option is to install LILO on the MBR of the IDE
drive. You can include options to boot Win95 and Linux. If you don't
want to mess with the MBR, then you can install LILO on a floppy.
Then Win95 will boot by default and you can use the floppy to boot
Linux.
Specific responses:
> Hi folks, Is it a luxury to have a seperate disk dedicated to each
> OS (95 & Linux) or am I just over-complicating things? Please tell
> me if you have a better idea to accomplish this:
>
> I have an old Acer Aspire P-90 Win95 PC.
>
> The original IDE 1Gig hard drive is FULL of all Win95 stuff I'd like
> to keep as-is; SO I have installed an Adaptec 1502 SCSI controller
> with a Quantum XP32150 2Gig hard drive.
>
> * I think I want the SCSI hard drive dedicated to Linux and the IDE
> hard drive remain dedicated to Win95.
No problem
> * I want the ability to transfer files between the two drives.
Easy to do when running Linux. Might be possible when running Win95.
> * I don't want to swap hardware to boot the other OS.
No problem
>
> What's the best way to have both OSs co-exist?:
>
> Can LILO be installed on my original drive, but most of Linux on the
> SCSI drive? I have 10-50 MB I could give-up on the Win95 disk.
LILO can be located entirely on the MBR. No need to mess with your
Win95 partition(s).
> Boot from floppy when I want Linux running from SCSI hard drive?
>
> Install a boot manager?
> Which one? Any risks to my Win95 disk? Free?
Um... LILO?
It is possible to loose the partition information for a drive when
rewriting the MBR and this is a risk when installing LILO there
(though I've never personally heard of it happening). If you are
squeamish about this, start with lilo on a floppy. Then once you have
Linux up and running, look at the lilo docs (actually they are an
excellent intro to basic disk concepts in general). Figure out how to
back up the current MBR and how to restore the backup if there is a
problem.
> Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions!
> -John
Collin
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Floppy boot to linux-only scsi hardrive on Win95 PC?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 00:50:43 GMT
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Sun, 04 Jul 1999 14:56:31 -0400, wrote :
J> Hi folks, Is it a luxury to have a seperate disk dedicated to each OS
J> (95 & Linux) or am I just over-complicating things? Please tell me if
No, this actually *simplifies* things.
J> you have a better idea to accomplish this:
J>
J> I have an old Acer Aspire P-90 Win95 PC.
J>
J> The original IDE 1Gig hard drive is FULL of all Win95 stuff I'd like to
J> keep as-is; SO I have installed an Adaptec 1502 SCSI controller with a
J> Quantum XP32150 2Gig hard drive.
You might really want to get a better SCSI controller. You need a
controller with a BIOS to boot an O/S off it -- I don't know if the 1502
has a BIOS or not. Linux uses the 'AHA-152x' driver.
J>
J> * I think I want the SCSI hard drive dedicated to Linux and the IDE hard
J> drive remain dedicated to Win95.
Should not be a problem.
J> * I want the ability to transfer files between the two drives.
So long as the partitions on /dev/hda are FAT16, Linux will happily
mount them. Warning: RedHat Linux defaults to mounting them as 'msdos',
with 8.3 file names with no gid, uid, or umask values in the fstab file
in /etc. This is fixable -- you just need to edit /etc/fstab and
re-mount the drives.
J> * I don't want to swap hardware to boot the other OS.
No need.
J>
J> What's the best way to have both OSs co-exist?:
J>
J> Can LILO be installed on my original drive, but most of Linux on the
J> SCSI drive? I have 10-50 MB I could give-up on the Win95 disk.
Yes, LILO will be happy to live in the MBR of /dev/hda. You won't need
to do anything to the Win95 partition. This assumes that the SCSI card
has BIOS support. Make sure it is set to assign drive letters to all
drives, not just the first 1-2 (I am not sure if this matters with only
1 IDE and 1 SCSI, but if you add either another IDE drive (or if you
have a IDE CD-ROM drive), it might. So long as your SCSI controller has
a BIOS on it, you won't need to mess with your Win95 file system, just
installing LILO in its MBR.
J>
J> Boot from floppy when I want Linux running from SCSI hard drive?
You can do this, if you prefer, but it is a bit of a pain -- lose the
boot floppy and you are screwed...
J>
J> Install a boot manager?
J> Which one? Any risks to my Win95 disk? Free?
LILO is a free (simple) boot manager. Comes with Linux. LILO can boot both
Linux and Win95.
J>
J> Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions!
J> -John
J>
J> PS: Please save the "Why keep 95 at all?" comments for another time. I
J> agree. Once I verify Linux works with ALL my hardware and teach my wife
J> Linux basics, I may ditch 95 altogeather.
J>
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