Linux-Misc Digest #921, Volume #18 Sat, 6 Feb 99 01:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: Printing with WP 8 (Rod Smith)
Re: setting up ftp (John Thompson)
Re: Using Internal PCI Modem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What's the linux equivalent of the StartUp folder? (Robert Heller)
Re: ES1688 sound card (Huaiyu Zhu)
Re: How to attach a file on command line (Huaiyu Zhu)
TRANS.TBL how? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Cable Modem and ethernet help! (Moolvy)
MAN page question (walt)
Re: Help, Linux, Apache, 1 IP, multi site, possible? (David Efflandt)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Shaun Rowland)
Re: kppp problem for non root user ("muzh")
Re: IDE ZIP DRIVE mounting? (Josef Josef Micka)
Re: Linux 2.1.131 VFAT / SMP problems (Ben Russo)
Task - detach and let it run in the background (Clement)
Re: linux boot meltdown!! (Vladymyr Iljyc Lenin)
Making FAT32 Partitions Available to Normal Users ("Steve D. Perkins")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ("Keith G. Murphy")
Task - detach and let it run in the background (Clement)
Newsreader for Linux (Michael Tse)
Re: Topicality (Steve Summit)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Printing with WP 8
Date: 4 Feb 1999 22:15:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <79b1av$pjr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent) writes:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:17:10 -0500, Greg Truax wrote:
> >
> >I have not been able to find anyplace on Corel's web site or ftp site where
> >they have Linux printer drivers.
> >
> http://www.corel.com/support/printerdrivers/index.htm
>
> The drivers do not have to be Linux-specific, but you may have to unpack
> them in Windows or use unzip.
Correct. The directions on my web site (which you reference) give
details. Also, many printer manufacturers have WordPerfect drivers in
their DOS sections, and these will work with WP for Linux.
> But I believe the "free" version of WP8
> does not have the printer configurer. You may be better off telling WP8 you
> have a Postscript printer and use ghostscript to drive your printer,
> but this method may give you black and white only.
AFAIK, the downloadable version *DOES* include the printer installer. It
DOESN'T include the font installer, though, which reduces WP's utility but
doesn't crush it to bits and spit it back in your face, the way the lack
of a printer installer would....
> For more on WP printing check out
>
> http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith/wpfonts.html
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up ftp
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:23:17 -0600
Aaron Walker wrote:
>
> How would I go about setting up user ftp (non-anonymous) on a debian 2.0
> box?
Just install an ftp daemon (wu-ftpd is a popular choice).
Your existing users can log in using their present user
names and passwords and will find themselves in their home
directories.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using Internal PCI Modem
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 03:56:23 GMT
Hi Robin,
Aztech's PCI modem is a controllerless modem. i.e. the modem controller is a
implemented in software as a device driver. It will not work on linux because
Conexant (former Rockwell Semiconductors) only releases drivers for Windows
platform.
Regards
Roy
In article <newscache$24v06f$lvm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Robin Aly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm SuSE 6.0. I bought a new Aztech 56K Modem (PCI, Internal)
> I tried setserial with the irq of the pci-slot, but didn't work. Can anybody
> help me ?
>
> Bye
> Robin
>
>
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Subject: Re: What's the linux equivalent of the StartUp folder?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Heller)
Date: 4 Feb 1999 16:00:31 -0500
Brent Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 04 Feb 1999 03:14:13 +0000, wrote :
BM> I'm trying to get linux to run a small program in the background
BM> every time I log in and I was wondering how I would do that.
BM> Suggestions?
BM>
BM> Thanks,
BM> Brent
BM>
BM>
It depends on what you mean by 'every time I log in'. If you are
loging in via a non-X11 shell (telnet, login from a machine NOT running
xdm, etc.), you could put the program in your .login. Be sure to put a
'&' after the command line and you really ought to put in a suitable
kill command in your .logout. It is probably really smart to create a
script that looks alot like the scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d for this
background program and put a line like '~/my.init.d/myProgInit start' in
your .login and a line like '~/my.init.d/myProgInit stop' in your
.logout. The 'start' case starts the program in the background and
saves the pid somewhere (~/run/myProg.pid) and the 'stop' case uses kill
to kill the process (using the pid in ~/run/myProg.pid) or something.
How fancy you get depends on your needs.
If you mean X11, you put it in .xinitrc or .xsession, or .Xclients, or
some such place, depending on how you have things configured and what
you are running as a window manager.
1) If you login to a non-X11 console and then run startx (or xinit), you
would add it to .xinitrc, unless your window manager does something
else.
2) If your machine is configured to bring up xdm (X11 starts and you get
Tux and a 'login' window, you would add it to .xsession, unless your
window manager does something else.
Note: RedHat Linux *by default* is set up to fire up the mess-windows
clone wm and has things set up with scripts to look in ~/.Xclients for a
batch of user defined things to run. If you don't have ~/.Xclients, it
will use /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/Xclients, which looks in ~/.wm_style
for your wm choise (fvwm95 by default). You should look at the docs for
AfterStep, WindowMaker, and X11 itself for a complete description of how
to add clients to your desktop.
--
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller ||FidoNet: 1:321/153
http://netmar.com/mall/shops/heller /\
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Huaiyu Zhu)
Subject: Re: ES1688 sound card
Date: 3 Feb 1999 23:30:10 GMT
Out of luck for RH5.2. Or maybe someone can enlighten me.
I have an AMS Travel Pro laptop with such a sound card. It used to work
under RedHat 5.0 (See my page at www.santafe.edu/~hzhu/laptop/index.html)
but it stopped working after "upgrading" to Rh5.2. The problem is that I
could only make it working by using non-module sound and isapnptools. It
seems that RH5.2 does not let me choose the same kernel config. The
sndconfig included never did anything more than modprobe which reports
"Device Busy". This has no priority for me so I haven't bothered to
investigate further.
Huaiyu
Steve D. Perkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: It seems that there is only one thing left keeping my Linux system
: from being "complete" and allowing me to just get rid of my Windows
: partition. That is the fact that after years of Linux use, I am still
: without sound. I've been a little too lazy to fool with it in the past
: (and it wasn't really that high of a priority)... but I've finally
: decided to knock it out.
: I was wondering if anyone else out there has an ESS "ES1688" sound
: card in their system, and what they had to do to make it work. I have
: just re-installed my Linux box from scratch... with RedHat 5.2. I don't
: know if RedHat 5.2 already has sound support built into the kernel, or
: if you have to re-compile it (oh well, I've got to start experimenting
: with that someday anyway I suppose!). If the sound support is already
: there, can someone tell me what I need to do to "activate" it? If I do
: need to re-compile the kernel I don't expect anyone to explain THAT step
: by step in a newsgroup posting... but can you at least point me in the
: right direction towards the resources I need to read to learn about it?
: Thanks!
: Steve
--
Huaiyu Zhu Tel: 208 885 2928
Division of Statistics Fax: 208 885 7959
University of Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moscow, ID 83844
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Huaiyu Zhu)
Subject: Re: How to attach a file on command line
Date: 3 Feb 1999 23:33:19 GMT
Or if you don't mind inclusion instead of attach:
mail user@address < file
Topher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Or use "ELM" option "-A"
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: >Take a look at http://alge.anart.no/linux/scripts/
: >
: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: >:I need to send a file to some users by email under certain circumstances, so I
: >:am looking for some utility or script that could send an attached file to some
: >:email address.
: >--
: >Anders Gulden Olstad @ Jeeves
: >RedHat 5.2 Linux kernel 2.0.36
: >
: >"Penguins are generally nice creatures"
--
Huaiyu Zhu Tel: 208 885 2928
Division of Statistics Fax: 208 885 7959
University of Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moscow, ID 83844
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: TRANS.TBL how?
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 08:05:21 GMT
Hi,
I'm a big fan of the whole Linux/OpenSource/GNU thing but I'm a bit on the
thick side. I currently run a SuSE 5.1 distribution on an i386 machine at
home and Redhat 5.2 on a Sun Sparc 10 at work (installed via ftp - to which I
have added KDE1.1 which is now turning WinNT users' heads around the company)
. I am well impressed by RH5.2 and naturally wish to use it on my home PC. I
have ftp'd the entire Redhat 5.2 i386 distribution (making proper use of the
company LAN after hours!) and have burned the results onto a CD. The Redhat
installation proggie doesn't like the CD, "this doesn't look like a Redhat
CD", it said. So I examined a copy of an older Redhat distribution (4.1
biltmore - my first Linux installation which I enjoyed greatly) that I had
used previously on my home PC and the only real difference seems to be a file
named TRANS.TBL which I gather, after searching the newsgroups this morning,
to be a filename translation table. Now, I also gather (from a posting in
French) that I may be able to use makeisofs to create a TRANS.TBL. Is that
the case? In which case, how? If not, what next? (apologies for my English)
UnFormat
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/6798/
Linux-Gimp-Tattoo-Artistry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moolvy)
Subject: Re: Cable Modem and ethernet help!
Date: 6 Feb 1999 04:42:49 GMT
here is a link from their software update site. It has a setup for linux, they
just won't support it.:
the linux file is at the bottom of the page.
http://update-server.neo.rr.com/software/ClientSoftware.html
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From: walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MAN page question
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 00:55:52 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I posted this a while ago, and it disappeared. hmm....
Any way, when I call up a MAN page, I can read it just fine, but I can't
get out of it! Having to reboot every time I read a MAN page isn't very
practical! Can some one tell me the command to exit the page once you
get to the end? My book conveniently forgot to tell me that
part...thanks
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From: David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, Linux, Apache, 1 IP, multi site, possible?
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 04:46:13 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2/3/99, 11:00:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Help, Linux,=20
Apache, 1 IP, multi site, possible?:
> Is it possible to have apache server 2 web site with different domains=
=20
with
> one IP, or is that a stuip question.
> -chad
As long as the nameservers for those domains point to your IP, it=20
should not be any problem. In fact there are outside sources that can=20
even nameserve for dynamic IP's.
Just read the apache docs about virtual webservers. For example if=20
you nslookup my de-srv.com domain and then do a nslookup of the=20
resulting IP, you may get a different name. And the parent domain is=20
itself a virtual domain on a much larger server, each with its own=20
server conf and log files.
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From: Shaun Rowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: 05 Feb 1999 15:13:42 -0500
Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Donn Miller wrote:
>
> > FreeBSD website. Maybe it's because I'm using Debian; I think I'll switch
> > to Slackware. So which Linux dist. is most like FreeBSD? I always thought
>
> Don't know which dist is most like FreeBSD (because I have never used BSD).
> But, I have used RedHat, Yggdrasil, Slackware, and Caldera.
> The latest 5.2 RedHat release is a breeze.
>
> I suggest 5.2 RH.
>
> Also suggest you get the qt-libs and kde rpms.
>
> Have fun.
>
> -Ben.
>
The truth is both are very good, period. Linux and FreeBSD are both of very
high quality. I would suggest that anyone interested in either try them out.
If they find they like the Unix environment, give the other a try. I started
out on Slackware 3.0. I liked upgrading it from the 1.2.13 kernel to 2.0, as
it was a small challenge. I then moved on to Red Hat 4.2. Red Hat was
interesting because it was more package based. This was a convenience, but I
still longed for more of a source code approach. I have since moved to
FreeBSD 3.0, and I must say that I am impressed. I now run FreeBSD on
everything except my laptop. I love it. With FreeBSD I get the benefits of
package based distribution (dependency checks, ect.) along with the building
from source code aspect in the ports collection. Red Hat can also build
binary rpms from source, but it is not quite the same, although this doesn't
mean that one system is inherently better than the other.
FreeBSD does lack the GUI tools that Red Hat has now for system configuration.
This is not a loss however. I have found FreeBSD very easy to configure (one
example is setting up natd vrs. ip masquerade). Once a little Unix knowledge
is acquired, it doesn't really matter which is used. One thing that I do like
about FreeBSD are the mailing lists. I don't know of any mailing lists for
Linux (except the kernel development mailing list?). The choice of one over
the other is a personal one. I don't think that running one or the other says
anything, except that you are interested in open solutions that give the
opportunity to look into the system... to get into the guts of it all if you
will. What I really like is that there is a choice between the two, and the
different variations of each. Without choice what do we have?
--
Shaun Rowland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IICF System Administrator DL798
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~rowland
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: kppp problem for non root user
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 15:40:15 +1300
pppd must also be executable for the users who want to use it:
chmod 755 /sbin/pppd
chmod u+s /sbin/pppd
ls -l should give
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root dialout 83952 Sep 7 07:45 pppd
JF Lucas wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I have some problems with kppp.
>I already posted this to the maintainer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>but I did not get any answer.
>
>kppp only works with the root user.
>
>I can't get it to work with another one.
>When i try it, the file /root/.kde/share/config/kppprc becomes empty
>(though the configuration was correct for root). And if i try to add
>setup myself, i got a message stating that pppd cannot be launched and
>that is maybe due to kppp not having suid permissions.
>
>kppp and pppd have their setuid bit set.
>
>-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 280368 Sep 8 00:39 kppp
>-rwsr-xr-- 1 root dialout 83952 Sep 7 07:45 pppd
>
>
>Versions :
>--------
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From: Josef Josef Micka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: IDE ZIP DRIVE mounting?
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 06:06:10 +0100
Michael wrote:
>
> mount -t umsdos /dev/sda4 /iomega
>
> This assumes:
>
> 1. /dev/sda4 is your Zip drive
> 2. You have a directory created called /iomega
> 3. Your zip disk is DOS formated.
>
i think you dont have right because
Robert A. Trifiletti, Jr. wrote in message
<79df03$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>anyone know how to mount an internal IDE/ATAPI Zip Drive/Disk?
do you understand? its not SCSI, but IDE device then must be not sdxx,
but hdxx
in other case you have right
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,revue.linux-smp
Subject: Re: Linux 2.1.131 VFAT / SMP problems
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:06:16 -0500
Ralph Seguin wrote:
> Hi.
> I was doing a little bit of development work last night and I ran into a
> big problem when moving some files around: when I did an
>
> cd /dosd/Dev/BlahStuff
> mv blah.cpp blah2.cpp
>
> it did the move, but blah2.cpp became a directory!!! Not only that, but
> it was a cycle as well, with
>
> /dosd/Dev/BlahStuff/blah2.cpp
>
> pointing to /dosd and it wasn't a symlink or a hard link either.
> /dosd is a FAT16, 2 gig [1st] primary partition, 4 gig FAST SCSI-2
> drive, mounted as VFAT
>
> That was pretty freaky. Also, I'd noticed some strange behavior earlier
> when I copied a file and the destination file
> seemed empty (at least when I did a cat, or less on it), but then later
> on it synced up and actually had the right stuff in it.
>
> Machine config:
> RedHat Linux 5.0, kernel 2.1.131 with SMP=1
> SuperMicro P6DLE, dual Pentium-II motherboard with two matched Intel
> Pentium-II 300 MHz CPUs overclocked to 375 MHz via 75 MHz bus, 192 megs
> PC-100 SDRAM, Adaptec 2940UW, 24X Pioneer SCSI CDROM, Micropolis 4.3 gig
> SCSI (/dosd partition lives here), Seagate 6.4 gig UDMA drive (Linux is
> installed on 2nd primary partition here), 128 megs swap (primary
> partition 3 on UDMA drive), 3Com 3C905-TX ethernet.
>
> Is this a known bug?
> Fixes?
> Fixed in later 2.1.x kernels?
> SMP work ok in the last 2.1.x kernel?
> Should I try a 2.2 kernel and is SMP ok in 2.2?
> Is there NTFS support yet???
>
> I was planning on redoing the machine anyways with RedHat 5.2 and the
> latest 2.1.x kernel.
>
2.1.x are development/unstable kernel's.
Definitely upgrade to 2.2
Then try and see.
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:11:36 +1100
From: Clement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Task - detach and let it run in the background
Hi
Running a time consuming task can be boring, so do you if there is a way
to
- start the task
- enter the parameters interactively
- detach the task from the running terminal and
- let it run in the background
- logoff and close the telnet session
- telnet to the linux again
- attach to that task and read the output that the task has sent to the
stdout
Can you help?
Regards
Clement
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From: Vladymyr Iljyc Lenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: linux boot meltdown!!
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 19:53:02 +0100
Pulido wrote:
> First the details.
> I am running linux 2.0.27 and have been for two years.
> I have a pentium 100 with a removeable hard drive chasis which
> allows me to easily pull out and swap my linux, M$ NT drive, my M$
> Winblows 95
> drive. The only drawback in having my drives setup this way is that I
> have to
> change my BIOS settings when I put my linux drive in (The linux drive
> and
> M$ drives are of different sizes).
> Anywho after pulling out my win95 drive and putting in my linux drive
> I turned on my computer (without paying attention and without changing
> my original BIOS settings) only to see a series of scrolling "04"'s
> across
> my screen. I quickly shut my system off and set the appropriate BIOS
> settings
> for my linux drive and rebooted. Well I think I shot myself in the
> foot!!
> After booting linux started complaining about root being mounted
> as a read-only filesystem.
> Here is the output of dmesg:
> <<<<<<<<<< Start of dmesg >>>>>>>>>>
> scsi: ***** BusLogic SCSI Driver Version 2.0.6 of 1 December 1996 *****
> scsi: Copyright 1995 by Leonard N. Zubkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> scsi0: Configuring BusLogic Model BT-948 PCI Ultra SCSI Host Adapter
> scsi0: Firmware Version: 5.05R, I/O Address: 0x6000, IRQ Channel:
> 11/Level
> NCR53c406a: no available ports found
> Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
> scsi0 : BusLogic BT-948
> scsi : 1 host.
> Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.13
> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0
> scsi : detected 1 SCSI disk total.
> SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 196608 [96 MB] [0.1
> GB]
> sda: Write Protect is off
> Partition check:
> sda: sda4
> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
> <<<<<<<<<< End of dmesg >>>>>>>>>>
> Don't mind the "NCR53c406a" and "WD-7000 SCSI" errors, they happened
> before
i think you have original kernel image that has been compiled with
support for your SCSI host adapter card, and with support for card with
NCR chip and card from WD
it's not critical error, only that devices don't exists on your system,
but kernel have probed him
> when my system was working fine (too lazy to correct them). After
> downloading
> tomsrtbt (Tom's root/boot) I did a e2fsck on my three partitions, hda1
> (/),
> hda2 (swap), hda3 (/tmp). hda1 and hda3 came back with zero dates on
> inodes
> errors and were corrected. hda2 came back with this error:
yes it's normal
yours / and /tmp(partition /dev/hda1 resp. /dev/hda3) is of type ext2,
but your swap is of type linux swap, it's nothing to seen on this disk
for e2fs utils.
you may only check bad sectors on this partition with program badblocks,
but don't use e2fsck or some other fsck, swap partiotion don't have
superblock or fat, he only have swap signature, he acts as memory, not a
filesystem.
> In conclusion HELP!!! I've got my linux system just the way I like it.
> Can it be saved or do I start from scratch.
>
> TIA,
>
> Marc
i think you must give more informations about mounting your system, you
must give messages from mount at start
normaly at boot system is mounting read-only, performed e2fsck, and when
no errors or errors corected, then mount system read-write.
then what's going on on yours system?
--
= lenin =
a ze ja sem ve~c~nej co?
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From: "Steve D. Perkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Making FAT32 Partitions Available to Normal Users
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 04:43:01 +0000
Well, after a week of learning more than I actually set out to learn
<smile> about Linux system administration, I've finally learned enough
to set things up to where I can get my work done logged in as an
ordinary user instead of root. Almost...
The only kink I have left to solve is related to filesystems. As it
stands right now, I only have read-write access to my FAT32 Windows
partition when I am logged in as root... my normal user account only has
read access. Also, my normal users' access to the CD-ROM is somewhat
"limited"... although I have given normal users permission to access
(and even mount/unmount) the CD, when I try to run CD music players
(such as kcd under KDE) I get the error message "do not have access
permissions for /dev/cdrom".
Does anyone know an easy way to give read-write permissions to
ordinary users for a mounted FAT32 partition... or what the missing link
might be with the CD-ROM? Thanks!
Steve
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 05 Feb 1999 14:35:21 -0500
Colin Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jim Ross wrote:
> > help me there. PPP works in Windows, in Linux for me it does not. Maybe I
> > could do even more to fix it, but the need is why Linux is not ready. I do
> > not want to have to troubleshoot it. I shouldn't have to.
> > Jim
>
> OK PPP was easier for me to set up in Windows 95 than in Linux. Of course,
> I had four or five ISP's include their setup programs on Windows 95, so it's
> not the fairest comparison. Did you have to type in scripts for PPP in
> Windows, or were the programs included?
that's weird. i had a bit of trouble setting up ppp in linux
(slackware), but i read the howto and after that things have been very
smooth. redhat's netcfg made setting up ppp fairly easy too. but at
the cost of figuring out a slew of wacky scripts in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts when i wanted to climb in under the
hood.
i never did manage to get ppp to work in windows despite several
afternoons of trying. i have no idea what i was missing or how to add
it since all have is an oem disk and i need to blow away windows and
reinstall every time i want to read anything from it.
microsoft windows is often easy to learn. it is easy but somewhat
tedious to use. however, when windows fails you are SOL. that is
what is wrong with windows.
--
johan kullstam
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 14:15:27 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alexander Viro wrote:
>
>Ever tried to add a logical disk on your master harddisk and
> watch the names of logical disk sitting on the slave being shifted? Or just
> add a second harddisk when your first one has two partitions. D: becoming
> E:, anyone?
>
Then, if you also have Win95, try to fix all the broken registry
entries, ini lines, and shortcuts that that breaks. Aaaaggghhh!!!
Truly, the worst thing in the DOS/Win world. Even ahead of (no) library
versioning.
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Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:14:39 +1100
From: Clement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Task - detach and let it run in the background
Hi
Running a time consuming task can be boring, so do you if there is a way
to
- start the task
- enter the parameters interactively
- detach the task from the running terminal and
- let it run in the background
- logoff and close the telnet session
- telnet to the linux again
- attach to that task and read the output that the task has sent to the
stdout
Can you help?
Regards
Clement
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Tse)
Subject: Newsreader for Linux
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 05:15:17 GMT
Hi:
I want a newsreader such as Free Agent for Window 95. It can download
the selected mesages at one time and decode the pic automatically.
Pleae tell me where I can download it.
Thank
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Summit)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: Topicality
Date: 5 Feb 1999 16:43:39 GMT
[Note that this thread was crossposted to three newsgroups, in
two of which it may well have been on-topic. Followups to this
article to comp.lang.c only.]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul D. Smith
evidently wrote:
> How many of the C implementations... _don't_ supply putenv()?
In the immortal words of Brian of Nazareth:
"Er, a lot!".
> Since it's almost ubiquitous amongst "variants" of C (really, C runtime
> libraries), why isn't it appropriate for comp.lang.c?
I don't know what "almost ubiquitous" means, but my sense is that
there are probably as many C implementations without putenv as
with it. (The compiler I have for this Mac I'm using now, for
example, doesn't support it.)
Steve Summit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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