Linux-Misc Digest #936, Volume #20 Mon, 5 Jul 99 23:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: sendmail hangs at boot (js)
Re: RPM vs. upgrade (Lev Babiev)
Re: windows95 and lilo (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process? (Adrian Hands)
Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic] (Paul Anderson)
Re: sendmail hangs at boot (Paul Anderson)
Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question (Paul Anderson)
Re: Gnome and window manager (Andrew Gerweck)
Re: Resize linux partition w/ Partition Magic!! (Mohamad Termizi)
Re: driver for AMCC S5933 (Eric Hegstrom)
Re: LILO hangs on LI (Mohamad Termizi)
MS Access -> Star Office (Nathan Ryan)
Re: vpn (pptp) client for linux - how tomake it work? (Yan Seiner)
Help with X: can a user detect mouse activity on a remote X console? (fwd) (Christos
Siopis)
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Rich Teer)
Re: Setting IRQ and making it stick (Matt Templeton)
Re: Kernel 2.2.x and arp
Oh Behave: Etherlink III 3C589D ("Mike Kompar")
Re: Nothing in Telnet (Matt Templeton)
System Manager in a Box (SMiaB)- New Beta Version 0.9.2b Released. (dan braun)
Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux vs Solaris (Fred Santos)
Re: LILO hangs on LI ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (js)
Subject: Re: sendmail hangs at boot
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:29:20 GMT
If I remember correctly, this has to do with not having a network
connection when you boot up.
js
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 21:17:48 +0100, "TwoSheds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Every time I boot up Linux (Red Hat 6) sendmail hangs for about
>five minutes, but it doesn't fail.
>
>Can anyone tell me what might be wrong here?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kev
>
>
>
>
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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RPM vs. upgrade
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 19:32:18 -0400
js wrote:
>
> Let's say I have Glib-1.1 that's installed as an RPM in redhat. If I
> want to upgrade to Glib-1.3, even though there isn't an RPM for
> that, what's the best way to go?
>
> I tryed just compiling it and doing
> a make install, but that didn't seem to upgrade all the necessary
> info, as I'm trying to build something else that requires Glib-1.3 and
> it still refused to compile.
The easy way to do it would be indeed to compile from source. You should
be careful about duplicates though. RedHat RPMs usually put thing in
/usr
prefix, while compiling puts them into (more proper) /usr/local, make
sure
you uninstall rpm before compiling from tarball. Also you may want to
try
to install into /usr for the sake of consistency with RedHat.
While tarballs may be the easiest way to go, if you have an rpm based
system
you really want to keep things consistent, it will play much nicer when
you
uninstall or upgrade, also dependencies would play nice.
So, I usually build my own rpm if I can't find one. usually you just
have to
write a spec file for the package and build it. If you have an rpm of
the older
version you can rip spec file from src.rpm and hack it for new version.
- Lev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: windows95 and lilo
Date: 6 Jul 1999 00:36:48 GMT
In article <7lra7p$1nv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, duncan corps wrote:
>This was written by pico in uk.comp.os.linux...
>|> How can I configure
>|> Linux (LILO) to make it possible to switch between the 2 installations of
>|> windows 95? Just adding both in /etc/lilo.conf doesn't work. I have to
>|> change the active partition first before it is possible for LILO to boot
>|> that partition. I hope I am clear.
>
> This is a limitation that has been present in MS-DOS (it's not
>lilo) for, um, ever. Unless Microsoft suddenly become competent or release
>a Win9x that isn't window dressing for MS-DOS or something, I can't see it
>being fixed.
> IIRC you can have one active partition per hard drive.
Actually, I had a system at work with Win-95 (beta build 450, April '95)
on /dev/hda1, MS-DOS-6.22+Win-3.11 on /dev/hda2, and Linux on /dev/hda5.
The partitions hda1 and hda2 were both marked active, and all three
operating systems booted just fine from LILO.
When it was up, each Microsoft OS thought it was on C: and the other
was on D:. They could not see the Linux partition at all.
Microsoft's FDISK program will only mark one partition active, but
Linux' fdisk does not have that limitation.
I didn't do anything fancy with the lilo.conf. Just had two "other ="
stanzas, one for each DOS.
Cameron
http://judi.greens.org/lilo/
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux erase memory before giving it to a process?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 16:08:38 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthias Benkmann wrote:
>
> Does Linux clear memory blocks before granting processes access to
> them? In other words. Does a program that works with sensitive data
> have to clear all its memory blocks before terminating to eliminate
> the possibility of another process getting a previously used memory
> block that still contains passwords etc.
> In a situation where many people use the same computer (e.g. a
> University's computer room) this might be a real issue. I don't want
> strange people to catch fragments of my emails just by doing a bunch
> of mallocs an then scanning the memory blocks. MSB
Within your proceess, no, memory doesn't get cleared by free or malloc,
only by calloc.
However, between processes, I believe you're safe, though I can't point
to any documentation that says so. In other words, if I malloc a block
of memory, populate it, free it, and then re-malloc, there's a good
chance it won't be clear. But it won't have garbage left over from
another process.
I think...
This little experiment seems to confirm this (but, admitedly, not PROVE
it) (below).
You might get a more definative answer on a kernel ng.
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#define BUFSIZE 128
void hexdump(unsigned char * p01) {
int cnt01;
cnt01 = 0;
while(cnt01 < BUFSIZE / sizeof(unsigned char)) {
int cnt02;
for(cnt02 = 0; cnt02 < 16; cnt02++) {
printf("%2X ", *p01);
p01++;
cnt01++;
}
printf("\n");
}
}
int main(int argc, char * argv[]) {
unsigned char * p01;
p01 = (unsigned char *) malloc(BUFSIZE);
strcpy((char *)p01, "hello world\n");
hexdump(p01);
free(p01);
printf("\n");
p01 = (unsigned char *) malloc(BUFSIZE);
hexdump(p01);
free(p01);
return 0;
}
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic]
Date: 5 Jul 1999 19:26:50 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes:
>Remember that one of the holes it used was in sendmail?
>
IIRC, it only used a bug in finger - that allowed to the server to be setup to
run code for debugging purposes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: sendmail hangs at boot
Date: 5 Jul 1999 19:39:59 -0400
"m.nine.six" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [sendmailhang]: If sendmail is hanging during boot, let it continue
>till you get in (about 5 mins) then put localhost.localdomain RIGHT
>AFTER 127.0.0.1 and before localhost in /etc/hosts
>
Though, IIRC, you will still have the problem. Often sendmail doesn't accept
127.0.0.1 as the IP for your machine. It does a lookup, gets the loopback
address, says this can't be, looks it up again, etc. Then exits, because it
won't beleive you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question
Date: 5 Jul 1999 19:33:30 -0400
Jiim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I know Linux isn't affected by viruses, but I'm trying to find an
>explanation for this.
>
It's multi-user nature. A regular cannot twiddle with the processes of any
other user in memory, and with proper file permissions cannot alter other
user's files. Also, most binaries(that a virus would want to attack) are
owned by root, so it can't get at them. Also, a program cannot write into
memory that it doesn't own. So even if root where running a virus, it would
not be allowed to alter the memory of other running programs(the kernel would
give it a segfault). TTYL!
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From: Andrew Gerweck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome and window manager
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,uk.comp.os.linux
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:51:09 GMT
don't add your window manager to .xinitrc. Just put gnome in .xinitrc.
If you do otherwise, you'll get a grip of crazy errors.
Make sure that you have the gnome configuration packages installed,
and use the config center in gnome to choose from any win managers installed
on your system. It's quite easy, though I don't know why anybody wouldn't
choose e :).
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From: Mohamad Termizi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resize linux partition w/ Partition Magic!!
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 08:23:39 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Charles,
I have run into problem that the partition is more than 1024 in LBA mode. Then,
I have the problem of installing the LILO.
Any tricks on how to overcome this problem?
TIA
Charles Sullivan wrote:
> If you just resized a partition and are _sure_ that the kernel still resides
> below the 1024 cylinder boundary, then simply rerunning /sbin/lilo (as root)
> ought to restore your ability to boot from the HD.
>
> Alleyoop Sam wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hi, I am a new linux user, using RH 6.0:
> >
> > Recently, I have resized my linux partition with Partition Magic 4.
> >After that, I can no longer boot into my linux partition without the use
> >of linux floppy boot disk. I can dual boot my machine before using the
> >PQ4 to resize my linux partitioin. I have NT installed and use NT OS
> >loader to daul boot my machine. If I use the NT OS loader to boot into
> >linux, it hangs on the prompt: "LI" and nothing goes on. Well, my linux
> >works fine if I use the floppy to boot in!! Any ideas to fix the
> >problem? Pls
> >
> >Thx for you help.
> >
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From: Eric Hegstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: driver for AMCC S5933
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 17:55:18 -0700
Yes,
A nice gentleman from Italy shared some development code he had worked
on for the s5933. It seems to work pretty darn well.
His name is Andrea Cisternino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
His source code was at
http://pcape1.pi.infn.it/~acister/dev/driver.html
If you have trouble I can probably find a copy to send you.
Peace,
Eric
"Dr. Oleg P. Nikolayev" wrote:
>
> Dears:
>
> Is there driver for AMCC S5933 (Linux Red Hat for PC Pentium)?
> If there is, as it to teceive?
>
> Thanks, Oleg
>
> --
> Dr. Oleg P. Nikolayev
> Graduate School of Applied Science - Voice: 972-2-65-84694
> Dept. of Psychology - Voice: 972-2-58-81089, Fax: 972-2-5825659
> The Hebrew University of Jerusalem - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Senior Software Engineer /V\
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520-617-0072 x402 ^^-^^
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From: Mohamad Termizi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO hangs on LI
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 09:19:59 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes, no wonder I have run into the same experience too. Probably, you're right
- Linux needs only the 1st HDD to boot. I will try it later.
...termizi
Kovalev wrote:
> I had exactly the same problem:
> 2 hdd : 1st win 2nd linux, and I tried to install lilo on 2nd(/dev/hdc) so
> it can boot both, by changing bios boot sequence to "D,.."
> It didn't work for me. I ended up physically switching the drives.
> Now when lilo and linux are on /dev/hda it's fine.
> I got an impression (by reading lilo docs) that it's incabable
> of being the primary boot loader if installed somewhere other than 1st hdd
> (or floppy), no matter what is the bios boot sequence.
> If you finally make it work your way and boot from secondary drive,
> let me know.
> Cheers
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From: Nathan Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Access -> Star Office
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 20:29:57 -0400
Is it possible to read from and write to an MS Access Database from
Star Office 5.x?
I need to access an MS Access DB running on an NT Server across a
LAN but would prefer to do it from Linux running Star Office than from
Win95
running Access.
Is this possible?
Thank you.
(You can e-mail me directly if you wish)
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: vpn (pptp) client for linux - how tomake it work?
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 20:23:44 -0400
Do a web search for Scott Ananian. He has a PPTP client for linux on
his web page.
He's at MIT.
Yan
Erik Steffl wrote:
>
> guys,
>
> I would like to be able toconnectto my work computers using linux -
> too bad they use ms vpn. there is a ppt client for windows but I wasn't
> able to get it working - nor did I found anybody who was able to (yet).
>
> is there anybody out there who managed to connect linux client to ms
> vpn server? and if yes - how?
>
> thanx in advance
>
> erik
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From: Christos Siopis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Help with X: can a user detect mouse activity on a remote X console? (fwd)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:22:34 -0400
Greetings,
I have a question that seems to be related to X, but I have no
programming experience in X myself, so any help from the gurus
is appreciated :)
[Please forward any reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --thanks!]
Suppose that user A works on a (Linux, if that matters) console
running X. I would like to know whether it is possible for (a
different) user B (other than root!) who is remotely logged on
to the same computer as user A, to test whether the mouse
attached to the console is being used (by user A). I suspect
what I am asking would be a security violation under X and hence
not allowed? Is there any workaround?
What I really want to do: I want to have a process owned by user
B that runs continuously in the background and checks whether
someone (e.g., user A) is using the console. If yes, the process
would suspend (kill -STOP) execution of a CPU-intensive program
(also owned by user B) until user A activity ceases, at which
point it will reinstate the CPU-intensive job (kill -CONT). The
reason I want to do this is to run a process without slowing
down or otherwise perturbing user A (no, nice +19 is not an
option!)
I have implemented this by running a script, owned by user B,
which (i) does a ps to see if anyone else is running a CPU-
intensive job (one that takes more than, say, 20% of the CPU
resources), and (ii) does a finger to see if there is any user
with an idle time of less than, say, 10 mins. If the answer to
either is yes, user B suspends his CPU-intensive job.
The problem with this is that if user A is not using a login
shell then user A does not show up with finger; and if user A
uses an X-application that does not run a CPU-intensive job
(e.g., it is mostly interaction with a GUI) then user A does not
register with ps either (or, to be precise: it does register
with ps but it only takes a few percent of the CPU resources;
but if I set too-low a threshold for ps, then user B's job would
be suspended even if user A is not working on the console but is
just running a screen saver or something like that).
Only straightforward way that I can see to solve the problem,
would be to allow user B to test whether the console mouse is
being used (moved and/or clicked) by some other user. Is this
possible? Are there are any better ideas?
Thanks a lot :]
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
From: Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:34:45 GMT
On Mon, 5 Jul 1999, Dave wrote:
> It's gotta be Solaris over Linux. Linux just isn't tested fully at
I wholeheartedly agree.
> high-end scalability yet. I read an article last month where an NT
> IIS 4.0 web server handily beat Linux running Apache (and later Zeus)
> web servers in nearly every category. NT! (if you can believe it!)
Although the artical probably didn't mention the fact that the
"test" was sponsored by M$, and the compamy doing the testing
heavily tuned the NT machines and ran the Linux one out of the
box, with no tuning whatsoever...
--
Rich Teer
NT tries to do almost everything UNIX does, but fails.
If it ain't analogue, it ain't music.
Voice: +1 (250) 763 6205
WWW: www.rite-group.com
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From: Matt Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting IRQ and making it stick
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 02:26:41 +0000
"Joseph S. White" wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just loaded Mandrake 6.0 w/KDE 1.1.1, had some trouble getting the modem
> working. I did a setserial /dev/cua2 irq 5 and now it
> works just fine, but when I reboot it will lose that setting. How do I
> make that change permenant? Are there any utilities that come with Linux
> to do this kind of thing, or is it best to use the command line?
>
> Thanks
>
Easy, you can add the line "setserial /dev/cua2 irq 5" (remove the "")
to one of the init scripts. I did it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.x and arp
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 01:36:07 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Joerg Paysen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> when I want to manually set an arp entry with
> arp -v -i eth0 -s myhost my_hw_address pub
> I get the following entry (arp -a):
> myhost (111.111.111.111) at * PERM PUB on eth0
> What does the asterix mean???
> (I set proxy_arp with echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/proxy_arp
> I use RedHat 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9-ac6)
I see the same behavior with any kernel v2.2.x and v2.3.x (through 9).
Also, Proxy arp *doesn't* work. No matter what I do. I have checked with
a sniffer. The Linux box receives the ARP request, and *ignores* it.
Here's my situation. I have two networks.
Public 170.1.15.129/27 eth0
Private 192.160.130.0/24 eth1
I have NAT enabled on my box (special patches, not part of stock kernel)
ipnatadm -i -O -P all -W eth0 -S 192.168.130.100/32 -D 0.0.0.0/0 -M 170.1.15.150 -o
ipnatadm -i -I -P all -W eth0 -S 0.0.0.0/0 -D 170.1.15.150/32 -N 192.168.130.100/32 -o
I used my IRIX box (170.1.15.140) to provide the Proxy ARP:
arp -s nat1 00:60:97:09:14:97 pub
This works. It works great. BTW, I also tested IP MASQ (stock), and
it works too.
I delete the IRIX proxy arp, then pull out the Proxy ARP howto, and type in:
arp -i eth0 -Ds nat1 eth0 pub
And I get from 'arp -a'
nat1.strangehaven.com (170.1.15.150) at * PERM PUP on eth0
(postscript: What the h*ll is a PUP? Is this supposed to be PUBlish? )
Rather than (on the IRIX box):
nat1.strangehaven.com (170.1.15.150) at 00:60:97:09:14:97 pub
Back in the 0.99.x days, I used to use Proxy ARP to 'steal' IP
addresses from the University. I thought Proxy ARP would be easy to
setup, but it just doesn't work. I've checked the version of net-tools,
and I've compiled and used 2.2.5, 2.2.6 and 2.3.9 trying to find one
that works. To date I have not gotten Linux to Proxy ARP.
It's screwed up that my old IRIX box supports this without a problem.
If it didn't, I'd be checking my head into a hospital right about now.
Can some networking/kernel person tell me what's up? Am I really doing
things wrong? I'm going to try to start tracing stuff back into the
kernel now.
Steve
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From: "Mike Kompar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux.slakware,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Oh Behave: Etherlink III 3C589D
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 22:12:41 -0400
I'm having all kinds of problems getting my 3Com Etherlink III 3C589D nic to
work with Slackware 4.0 I'm also using a rebuilt kernel 2.3.8.
The pcmcia driver on my laptop is a PCI system which allocates irqs on
demand. My system is a Thinkpad 380XD and I have had 3 versions of Redhat
beginning with 5.0 successfully running without any problem whatsoever. I
also have also double checked the nic by booting into Win 98 where I can
reach all network resources without a problem. However, when I boot (hard
or soft) into Linux the card beeps high then low. When I eject the card and
replace it I get a netdev_config error or something of the like. I've not
found any reference to the error in usenets or in any man file.
I've compiled and installed the latest pcmcia-cs3.06 driver.
I've read the PCMCIA-HOWTO. I've tried the standard fixes mentioned in
usenet, specifically:
Made sure that I have a correct entry for the card in etc/pcmcia/config
Tried various memory and irq commenting in etc/pcmcia/config.opts without
any change.
Any help is much appreciated. I like Slack much better and would like to
stay - but I need me network.
Thanks
--
Mike Kompar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.mtcibs.com
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From: Matt Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nothing in Telnet
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 02:40:19 +0000
Do you know if you have telnetd (in.telnetd) running? A quick check
would be to, from the Linux box, telnet to 127.0.0.1 then there is a
good chance that telnetd is not running.
Edward Murrell wrote:
>
> I've got a small problem with my Win95 box telneting into my linux box,
> After some fiddling with the hosts.allow & hosts.deny files I can open a
> telnet
> window from my Win95 box on my linux host (previously, the connection
> would
> be denied) but I don't get anything coming back, zip, nada, not even an
> echo of
> my text.
> I'm using Debian 2.1 running Linux 2.0.36. The connection is a ethernet
> based, which
> works (they can ping each other without any problems?)
>
> Can somone tell me where to look for a mannual/HOWTO on this or what to
> do to get it running?
>
> Cheers,
> Edward.
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From: dan braun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: System Manager in a Box (SMiaB)- New Beta Version 0.9.2b Released.
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 21:43:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Linux and Viruses - Not the same old question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 05 Jul 1999 18:57:53 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson) writes:
> Jiim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >I know Linux isn't affected by viruses, but I'm trying to find an
> >explanation for this.
> >
> It's multi-user nature. A regular cannot twiddle with the processes of any
> other user in memory, and with proper file permissions cannot alter other
> user's files. Also, most binaries(that a virus would want to attack) are
> owned by root, so it can't get at them. Also, a program cannot write into
> memory that it doesn't own. So even if root where running a virus, it would
> not be allowed to alter the memory of other running programs(the kernel would
> give it a segfault). TTYL!
Could a bad root running program damage hardware in Linux? AFAIK it can't, but
I am not certain....and THAT is the most dangerous form of viruses.
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Date: Tue, 06 Jul 1999 02:55:02 +0100
From: Fred Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: Linux vs Solaris
Paul,
I had to make a similar decision two months. My project is a three-tier
distributed system with a middleware product (CORBA-compatible) and with
coding in C++ and Java. Although the actual deployment of the system is still
some 6-8 months away, after some 3 months of testing (with this and other
projects), we decided to use Solaris 7 (on SPARC and x86) as development
platform because of the quality and stability of Sun's development tools.
This doesn't mean we dropped Linux altogether! We still are using a
multiprocessor Linux system as database server. With Linux, however, you
should be careful with the distribution you choose thought: we found OpenLinux
(from Caldera) a lot more stable than every other distribution we tested
(RedHat, SuSE and Debian), although it is a bit less current (then more
stable?) than some of the others.
The deployment of the system will be based on a mix of Windows (...) and other
Java-supporting platforms for clients and SPARC-based Solaris Servers for
object and database servers. We will go with Solaris (on SPARC) due to its
performance, scalability, overall quality and support availability.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Fred
Paul wrote:
> I'm building a mission-critical high throughput OLTP application which
> required considerable scalability. I'm trying to choose between Linux and
> Solaris for the operating system.
>
> Does anyone have any views on this matter?
>
> Any help or advice appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LILO hangs on LI
Date: 05 Jul 1999 21:45:37 -0400
Mohamad Termizi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, no wonder I have run into the same experience too. Probably,
> you're right - Linux needs only the 1st HDD to boot. I will try it
> later.
>
> ...termizi
>
> Kovalev wrote:
>
> > I had exactly the same problem: 2 hdd : 1st win 2nd linux, and I
> > tried to install lilo on 2nd(/dev/hdc) so it can boot both, by
> > changing bios boot sequence to "D,.." It didn't work for me. I
> > ended up physically switching the drives. Now when lilo and linux
> > are on /dev/hda it's fine. I got an impression (by reading lilo
> > docs) that it's incabable of being the primary boot loader if
> > installed somewhere other than 1st hdd (or floppy), no matter what
> > is the bios boot sequence. If you finally make it work your way
> > and boot from secondary drive, let me know. Cheers
In order to be the primary boot loader LILO must be installed on the
MBR of the 1st hdd, but your Linux partitions can be anywhere.
Putting Windows partiton(s) on /dev/hda and Linux partitons on
/dev/hdb does not prevent you from installing LILO on the MBR of
/dev/hda. One of my systems is configured exactly like this and it
works quite well.
Collin
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