Linux-Misc Digest #936, Volume #26 Sat, 27 Jan 01 09:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Cubic Meter)
Re: how do I mount my tape drive? (Nigel Kukard)
Re: how do I mount my tape drive? (Boris)
Re: what news reader do you use? (Anita Lewis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("kiwiunixman")
Linux Router in Home Network, some Games don�t work over I-Net (Patrick Buedi)
Re: how do I mount my tape drive? (freedman)
Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2 (Noble Pepper)
Re: what news reader do you use? ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
Re: what news reader do you use? (Martin Herrman)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2 (Hal Burgiss)
Re: iptables & 2.4.0 (Tobias Schenk)
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From: Cubic Meter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 05:16:43 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Cubic Meter wrote:
> >
> > Steve Withers wrote:
> >
> > > G'day
> > >
> > > I've been following developments closely on this.
> > >
> > > It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> > > to be registered....or it will cease to function.
> > >
> > > This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> > > door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple
> > > PCs, how many home and small business users are going to be forced to
> > > pay up and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
> > >
> > > In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> > > both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum.
> > > As it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
> > >
> > > But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> > > have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will
> > > only be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
> > >
> > > It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> > > one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> > > desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party,
> > > proportional systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software
> > > and Linux....
> > >
> > > Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of
> > > freedom (European politics - outside Britain).
> > >
> > > There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere......
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > Well, now, it isn't as deep as that. Microsoft dominates the desktop
> > market because it was free to pursue that and push its product hard. I
> > don't see anything wrong with that. MS has recently went over the line
> > in some of its
>
> Evidently, you are unaware that during the DOS days, Microsoft extorted
> contracts which required that OEM's pay MS for an MS-DOS license even
> when the customer chose to have (the superior and less-costly) DR-DOS
> installed on their machine.
>
> Microsoft recently settled with Caldera (who purchased Digital Research)
> in exchange for Caldera agreeing to NEVER release the full evidence
> against Microsoft, or even talk about it ever again.
>
> If Microsoft was innocent of any wrongdoing in the late 1980's, then
> why the gag-order in the settlement?
>
>
>
> > tactics, but that may be subsiding. As someone else points out, there
> > are no American OSs that are open source? America has never developed
> > anything for the free software community? Bull. It doesn't have anything
> > to do with politics as much as your post has made it out to be.
> >
> > Besides, about the registration thing, just wait awhile and someone will
> > have a registration code cracker out. Take WinZip as an example. They
> > give a free full version evaluation copy, which promts you for a reg
> > code every time you start it. I went surfing on the web and found a
> > simple little cracker prog that generates a fake reg code and viola.
> > Now, I'm not condoning it, but what the hell. Someone will be out w/ an
> > M$ cracker soon.
> >
> > m^3
>
>
I did not know that. I got into computers about the time Win 3.1 hit, so
all I know of DOS is some vague history and a few commands. That sounds
like, well, I can't think of a word to describe it. I can't believe that
there could exist a contract that said "You have to pay me even though you
are not using my product". What a bunch of shit. That is terrible. It kind
of reminds me of what the U.S. Postal Service is/was trying to push with
email. They want(ed) to put a $0.05 charge on every email to make up for
the loss of money due to email, even though they are not providing the
service. It is getting hard to live in this "free" country. Bunch of
communists...
m^3
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 12:39:33 +0200
From: Nigel Kukard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how do I mount my tape drive?
Darren and Marla Welson wrote:
> I am adding a tape drive to an existing AHA-1542 SCSI controller. I have
> one HD already configured and working, but I cannot figure out how to access
> my tape drive. I have tried:
> mount -t ext2 -r /dev/sdb /mnt/tape
> mount -t ext2 /dev/tape /mnt/tape
>
> but no go. Is it possible I will need to recompile my kernel? I have added
> the SCSI card since I installed RH6.2.
>
> darren welson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a tape drive is a sequential access device, hence you cannot mount it.
Regards
Nigel
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From: Boris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how do I mount my tape drive?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:07:28 +0100
Nigel Kukard wrote:
>
> Darren and Marla Welson wrote:
>
> > I am adding a tape drive to an existing AHA-1542 SCSI controller. I have
> > one HD already configured and working, but I cannot figure out how to access
> > my tape drive. I have tried:
> > mount -t ext2 -r /dev/sdb /mnt/tape
> > mount -t ext2 /dev/tape /mnt/tape
> >
> > but no go. Is it possible I will need to recompile my kernel? I have added
> > the SCSI card since I installed RH6.2.
> >
> > darren welson
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> a tape drive is a sequential access device, hence you cannot mount it.
>
> Regards
> Nigel
use mt-st util ar 'amanda' backup software..
the devices for scsi tape are /dev/stx and /dev/nstx where x is the
device number
also be sure to enable tape support in kernel with modules or in kernel
config..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: what news reader do you use?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:32:39 GMT
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:32:59 -0500, JuanMa wrote:
>On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 04:19:22 GMT, "blix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>>I am currently using PAN... it seems to be the closest to the newsreader
>>I am used to on my Windows machine (MS Outlook Express).
>>
>>But I've been trying to use emacs to read the news but find it very
>>non-intuitive and cumbersome. Is it worth it to learn to read the news in
>>emacs?
>>
>>What news readers do you all use?
>>
>>Thanks in advance,
>>blix
>
>
>Newbie wise. Which one would you recommend?
The easiest one for a newbie to set up and use is netscape. I've never used
Pan, though. Pine will read news and is easy, but I found it very slow for
news. slrn takes some work to configure and to learn to use, but it is a
very good news reader.
When I started out, it took a month or so to get my MediaGx video going.
Meanwhile I used Pine for mail, but couldn't stand it for news. I tried to
set up trn, but it was just over my head at the time. If you want a console
news reader, try slrn. I wrote up a long article on how to set it up. It
was going to go into a newsletter, but I didn't get it finished in time.
It's not polished, but I think it would give you some good info for setting
up.(If I can find it, that is.) If there is an interest, I'll put it up and
give the address.
Anita
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From: "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:43:31 GMT
I have used Unix stations for years, and they have ALWAYS had compulsory
(node-locked) registration, but in the corporate world, this is pretty much
the norm. anyway. I don't trust Microsoft for as far as I can throw there
software, they are a large, untrustworthy corporate who has, and never will
have the consumers best interests at heart. If Microsoft really wanted to
beat piracy they would lower their prices so that the average joe/jane can
actually afford the software, instead of borrowing their mates/next door
neighbours copy of Office/Windows.
kiwiunixman
"Steve Withers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> G'day
>
> I've been following developments closely on this.
>
> It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> to be registered....or it will cease to function.
>
> This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
>
> In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
>
> But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
>
> It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
>
> Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> (European politics - outside Britain).
>
> There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
>
> Steve
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From: Patrick Buedi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Router in Home Network, some Games don�t work over I-Net
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 03:07:21 +0100
Hallo,
some time ago I set up an old 486 computer with a ISDN-card as
internet gateway / router / proxy / news server / mail server... for
my little home network (3 PC�s).
It is a SUSE 6.0 with Kernel 2.0.36 and running ipfwadm. Most services
work great (web, mail, news, irc, icq and most games over internet).
But I have a problem with games that use direct play (and with my MS
Game Voice too). I read that direct-play needs port 47621 and
2300-2400 opened and maybe redirected to the local ports of the PC
running the game. I opened the ports with ipfwadm and tried to
redirect the ports to my local pc with "rinetd". But it still doesn�t
work. Was it a complete wrong way? Exists a better / easier way? Or do
I need a newer Kernel?
I hope someone can give me some tips / url�s. I would be very happy!
Sincerely yours
Patrick Buedi!
cu... buedi!
--
http://buedi.virtualave.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (freedman)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how do I mount my tape drive?
Date: 27 Jan 2001 11:58:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 03:53:18 GMT, Darren and Marla Welson wrote:
>I am adding a tape drive to an existing AHA-1542 SCSI controller. I have
>one HD already configured and working, but I cannot figure out how to access
>my tape drive. I have tried:
>mount -t ext2 -r /dev/sdb /mnt/tape
>mount -t ext2 /dev/tape /mnt/tape
>
>but no go. Is it possible I will need to recompile my kernel? I have added
>the SCSI card since I installed RH6.2.
>
>darren welson
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
you don't mount tape drives but read/write to /dev/st0 or /dev/nst0 (st0
rewinds the tape after access, nst0 does not). To tar a file to tape you
would do a tar cf /dev/st0 filename. Also, read the man page for mt, which
allows you to do things like forward space and backspace the tape.
--
Dick Freedman
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From: Noble Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 06:35:06 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Redhat6.2 comes with two bash'es : /bin/bash and /bin/bash2
> /bin/bash is the default. Should I install a recent bash-2 RPM that will
> probably overwrite /bin/bash or will it disrupt the system?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
>
I expect they may be the same, what does bash --version say?
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: what news reader do you use?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:52:55 -0500
JuanMa wrote:
>
> On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 04:19:22 GMT, "blix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I am currently using PAN... it seems to be the closest to the newsreader
> >I am used to on my Windows machine (MS Outlook Express).
> >
> >But I've been trying to use emacs to read the news but find it very
> >non-intuitive and cumbersome. Is it worth it to learn to read the news in
> >emacs?
> >
> >What news readers do you all use?
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >blix
>
> Newbie wise. Which one would you recommend?
>
> Thank You.
>
> Take Care.
>
> JuanMa
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Remove the last .com to reply
Netscape. I've "used 'em all" and always end up using NS again.
Versatility, configurability, secure server capability, plain text,
html, etc. And most newbies will have some idea about how to use the
gui for setting it up. It's very "point and click"-ish.
--
Rinaldi]$
Nothing left to say.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: what news reader do you use?
Reply-To: m.herrman@@student.tue.nl
Date: 27 Jan 2001 13:36:54 GMT
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:52:55 -0500, Rinaldi J. Montessi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Netscape. I've "used 'em all" and always end up using NS again.
> Versatility, configurability, secure server capability, plain text,
> html, etc. And most newbies will have some idea about how to use the
> gui for setting it up. It's very "point and click"-ish.
But NS is slow and crashes. That way I've lost some e-mail when
I just started using Linux. Now I'm using pine for my e-mail
and slrn for my news. Pretty good, fast and not so hard to
learn.
Martin
--
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Debian GNU/Linux 2.2.17 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
2:35pm up 3:55, 2 users, load average: 0.39, 0.12, 0.04
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
My bike: a black&gold Suzuki GS500E 1992 (25 kW)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 08:39:30 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> ...<snip>...
> > >
> > > Second, we've all heard stories about Stephen Foster and Edgar Allan
> > > Poe, and more recently black musicians, getting ripped off for their
> > > famous works. Copyright law was written to protect. It used to be
> > > good for 17 years I think with the possibility of extension. Now it's
> > > been increased so much that the pendulum has swung the other way.
> > > Mickey Mouse might have become public domain, or "Rhapsody In Blue".
> > > There were people who were laboriously typing old encyclopedias into
> > > machine readable form to become part of a public database who got
> >
> >
> > Sounds pretty inefficient when you consider that a 300 dpi scanner
> > and optical character recognition software can be obtained for US $150,
> > speeding up the process by about 100x.
> >
> >
>
> Hmm, I was going from memory and a bit careless. They may have been
> using scanners, though even that is laborious. I know that there is
> a project or maybe 2 to have sort of free open encyclopedia unencumbered,
> it was mentioned in slashdot and advogato recently. The Nupedia at
> http://www.nupedia.com/, but I digress (which almost never happens on
> usenet.)
Go find "Three Days of the Condor" (1975). Even with the primitive
technology of that time, it was STILL faster to do OCR to digitally
transcripe text.
>
> --
> Replace ragwind.localdomain with rahul for a working email address
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: bash2 on Redhat6.2
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Jan 2001 08:44:41 -0500
On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 07:15:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Redhat6.2 comes with two bash'es : /bin/bash and /bin/bash2
>/bin/bash is the default. Should I install a recent bash-2 RPM that will
>probably overwrite /bin/bash or will it disrupt the system?
I can't imagine it causing any serious problems. I used bash2 on 6.2. I
created a symlink. Worse comes to worse you can always uninstall, then
re-install the originals.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tobias Schenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: iptables & 2.4.0
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:51:16 +0100
Hi,
A 'modprobe iptable_filter' helps here.
Perhaps a 'depmod -a' before is needed
Tobias
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