Linux-Misc Digest #936, Volume #24               Sun, 25 Jun 00 20:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: stability of culture of helpfulness (Doc Shipley)
  Re: formating a drive under linux :\ ("HellNo")
  Re: Just a little drawing heralding the arrival of Windows ME *shudder* - 
dclareg032.jpg (0/1) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Just a little drawing heralding the arrival of Windows ME *shudder* - 
dclareg032.jpg (0/1) (J Bland)
  Re: loadlin setup: win98 boots despite choosing linux in menu (LeoNid)
  Re: stability of culture of helpfulness (David M. Cook)
  Re: Just a little drawing heralding the arrival of Windows ME *shudder* - 
dclareg032.jpg (0/1) ("Larry Ebbitt ")
  Mounting from rescue disks (Dan)
  Literary Criticism
  Gnome Panel crashes at start (Cory)
  Full backup/restore? (root)
  Re: WordPerfect 8: icons mangled ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: stability of culture of helpfulness ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Mounting from rescue disks ("Philip A. Chapman")
  Old text games (Mike O'Dorney)
  Re: stability of culture of helpfulness (Gary Hallock)
  trpt in Linux ("Raja")
  Re: linux as a client :-( (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Old text games ("Philip A. Chapman")
  Re: Old text games (Prasanth A. Kumar)
  Re: Literary Criticism (Binyomin Kaplan)
  Re: Literary Criticism (Binyomin Kaplan)

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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 21:22:29 GMT

Tim Palmer wrote:
> 
> <snip much illiterate garbage>
> 
> Maybe youd be abal to rite better coad to.

This has GOT to be a joke.

-- 
 Doc Shipley
   Network Stuff
      Austin, Earth

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From: "HellNo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: formating a drive under linux :\
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:39:26 -0700

thx 4 the reply!  I'll have a look. ASAP :)


"Robert Heller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>   "HellNo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   In a message on Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:01:18 -0700, wrote :
>
> "> Well, maybe you can help me some more.
> ">
> "> I started a telnet session to the machine where I added the drives.
logged
> "> in as root and ran the command:
> ">
> "> [root@mi5 /root]# mke2fs -cv /dev/sdc1
> "> mke2fs 1.15, 18-Jul-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
> "> Filesystem label=
> "> OS type: Linux
> "> Block size=4096 (log=2)
> "> Fragment size=4096 (log=2)
> "> 89088 inodes, 178172 blocks
> "> 8908 blocks (5.00%) reserved for the super user
> "> First data block=0
> "> 6 block groups
> "> 32768 blocks per group, 32768 fragments per group
> "> 14848 inodes per group
> "> Superblock backups stored on blocks:
> ">         32768, 98304, 163840
> ">
> "> Running command: badblocks -b 4096 -s /dev/sdc1 178172
> "> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test):    148096/   178172
> ">
> "> at block 148096 the telnet session locks.  I went over to the server
and
> "> checked the monitor and saw the following error:
> "> "
> "> aha1542.c: Trying device reset for target 3
> "> Sent BUS reset to scsi host 0
> "> Kernel panic: scsi_free: Trying to free unused memory
> "> "
> "> Any info yet again would greatly be apreciated ;)
> "> thx
> "> PS:  Same problem on both drives.  Never used them so it could be bad
blocks
> "> on both but i doubt it.
>
> How is your SCSI bus terminated?  The *last* (and only the last) drive
> should be terminated. The interface card should alse be terminated,
> unless you have internal and external devices attached (modern
> interface cards can be set to 'automatic termination', in which case
> the card figures out if it needs termination on its own).
>
> Otherwise you could have bad drives.  Also: make sure you did not set
> the partition size to be larger than the physical disk (check with
> 'fdisk -l').
>
> ">
> ">
> ">
> ">
> "> "Martin Herrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message
> "> news:39561256$0$27593@reader4...
> "> > On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:02:00 -0700, HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "> > > Hi all,
> "> > >
> "> > > A simple question really.  I added a couple of 1GB SCSI disks to my
> "> i586.  I
> "> > > ran an fdisk on both drives and added them to the /etc/fstab but I
think
> "> I
> "> > > should format them at one time or the other... the ting is, what
the
> "> hell is
> "> > > the command I should use t format an ext2 partition?
> "> > >
> "> > > Any help would be greatly apreciated :)
> "> > > thx
> "> >
> "> > 'man mke2fs'
> "> >
> "> > HTH ;-)
> "> >
> "> > Martin
> "> >
> "> > >
> "> > >
> "> >
> "> >
> "> > --
> "> > Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
> "> > Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14  Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
> "> > 4:00pm up 13 days, 6:59, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.00
> "> > Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
> ">
> ">
> ">
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Just a little drawing heralding the arrival of Windows ME *shudder* - 
dclareg032.jpg (0/1)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:02:41 +0100

Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dwayne) writes:
>> Sorry bud. I thought someone may appreciate this in linux.misc. There
>> is usually a lot of leeway in misc groups. I couldn't find a linux
>> binary or linux humour group. Please forgive my rudeness.

> Your binary doesn't seem to have made it to my server. Perhaps it's been
> killed.

Mine too. I think fetchnews killed it because it was beyond the size limits
I'd set down in leafnode/config. It was only the subject line that clued me
in.

> The rules concerning binary postings are not arbitrary. Many news
> servers operate with very little leeway for the amount of disk space
> consumed per group per day. A single binary posting can consume more
> disk space (and network bandwidth) than the rest of the group for that
> day, depending upon the group and the size of the binary. Abuse of this
> nature can cause serious problems on some news servers, and can
> potentially cause a news administrator to drop a group. That's why
> people who inappropriately post binaries are frequently flamed
> mercilessly.

The other reason it's frowned upon is because people like me, who pay for
phone access by the minute are paying for these binaries (all of which are
unwanted).

A large binary can add minutes to my download time (which is why I set my
message size limit to 50k...).

> BTW, it's also considered pretty rude to completely mask your e-mail
> address. Address munging is officially not allowed but is informally
> accepted, on the whole (some people may vehemently disagree, however).
> When doing address munging, though, accepted practice is to provide some
> way for a human to decipher the address -- usually a single line in the
> signature.

Yep... When I was at uni, my munged address was [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Can get much more informative than that for my address).

I don't bother anymore, seeing as I still ended up getting spam at the old
address anyway (I think the address reapers scan sig files now).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: Just a little drawing heralding the arrival of Windows ME *shudder* - 
dclareg032.jpg (0/1)
Date: 25 Jun 2000 21:37:25 GMT

>Again I apologise. My e-mail address was clearly in the text body of
>my original message. I get quite a bit of spam each day due to my
>posts in the arts groups and my webspace, I really don't want to mung
>my address it is just becoming very necessary. 
> I won't do this again. Very sorry.

For many reasons 'spamming' or 'binary posting' on most newsgroups is met
with a fury which would match the pits of hell. Usually for good reason.

But don't worry, we usually learn by being told off or seeing others being
told off. From this comes the (if you think about it) inherently better
system of sending a post with a link, be it ftp, http or whatever rather
than including it with your post.

If you put it on a newsgroup it gets relayed to a vast number of different
systems across the world, whether they want it or not. A link, however,
takes little space and only those interested will follow it and load it.

I have to sometimes remind my local users of this when saying "go to
/home/user/whatever.jpg" hammers our systems much less than including the
image in a system-wide email.

Not everyone has large amounts of bandwidth, and definitely not all Linux
gurus want to trawl through massive posts to get to a question.

The more succint your question the quicker it loads and the more people will
be happy to answer it.

As for email munging, it's a necessary evil in this day and age. I have many
instances of my own where a quite obscure email addy has been spammed.
Posted on a single website I have had email addys spammed.

If an addy is human readable then that's fine. If you simply don't want
people mailing you, that's also fine (someone trying to mail to the machine
I post from will have a job, but this bothers me not, I just don't want
newsgroup emails and don't post an email addy on usenet in my postings).

At the fundamental level: never post binaries unless it really is a binary
group; use URLs when it isn't a binary group; quote from previous posts only
what is pertinenent and *not* the entire post, and don't be annoyed if this
is pointed out to you. These rules are born from online necessity and to
make the transferal of information quicker and easier.

A long time ago I didn't know this but I'm glad someone told me.

Frinky

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (LeoNid)
Subject: Re: loadlin setup: win98 boots despite choosing linux in menu
Date: 25 Jun 2000 20:59:25 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] investiGAtor (Ted) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: skiped to the soil:
>> Debian
>>>[menu]
>>>menuitem=Linux, Boot Linux
>>..........^
>>>menuitem=Win98, Boot Windows 98
>>>menudefault=Linux, 15
>>>
>>>[linux]
>>..^.
U got a new

>
>....error message 
>from command.com regarding goto Linux not being found. 
>
>Also, not sure what you mean about the com_2_play.  (bear with me,
>I'm new) 
>
WELL, comMUNIcations games:-) seri.ously:
[win95] versus menuitem=Win98 :-) BUT..
it is at THE END of ur config, so go ahead, play!, if U like.
=============
>Any other ideas?

Nope, i (k)new 2:-).
try 2 think harder!
>
>Ted Schuman
>


ARIvederchi!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness
Date: 25 Jun 2000 22:12:41 GMT

On 25 Jun 2000 15:41:44 -0500, Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>tiping "mount" befoar loding a CD.... [and more in that vein.]

Your attempt to make windows advocates look like idiots is both unnecessary
and tiresome.

Dave Cook

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From: "Larry Ebbitt " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:19:03 -0400 (EDT)
Reply-To: "Larry Ebbitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just a little drawing heralding the arrival of Windows ME *shudder* - 
dclareg032.jpg (0/1)

On 25 Jun 2000 21:37:25 GMT, J Bland wrote:

>A long time ago I didn't know this but I'm glad someone told me.

It certainly is pleasant to see a rational explanation of 
this sort of thing instead of flame.  Thank you.



Larry - Atlanta - Linux + OS/2



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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mounting from rescue disks
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:30:09 GMT

I am tryig to mount my hda5 root partition from a boot disk since I screwed
up my XF86 config files and now can't log into my computer. When I try to
mount it from my rescue disk it says, "couldm't mount RDWR because of
unsupported optional features".

Has anybody got any ideas what this means and how I can mount this partition?


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Literary Criticism
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:30:11 GMT

Where can I go to find literary criticism on the short story, "The Lottery" 
by Shirley Jackson?

How can I compose my literary criticism information into a research paper 
on "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson?

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From: Cory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome Panel crashes at start
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:52:45 GMT

Hello,

My config:

        Linux-Mandrake 6.0
        Gnome 1.2
        Enlightenment 0.16.0

My problem:

Just about everytime I log into my system, the Gnome panel starts
crashing and reloading itself in an endless loop, telling me that it
detected another panel and asking if I want to start another one.  All
the time its bringing up these dialog boxes and crash messages, to the
point that I have to kill X.  Then, when I get back, none of my dock
apps in the panel are there anymore.

I've traced what happens to my ~/.gnome/session file whenever this
happens.  It installs many session lines containing "panel" in them, and
trys to start them all at once.  The only way I've managed to get around
this is to make the session file read-only.  And it doesn't always work.

This has happened in an installation of October Gnome as well.  I saw
somewhere that this is probably a bug in RedHat 6.0, which is what
Mandrake 6.0 is based on.  Is this true?  If so, is there a way to fix
it?

Please help.
Cory

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Full backup/restore?
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:06:50 -0400


How does one do a full back and restore of a Linux installation?  I'm
going to try to upgrade Red Hat 6.2 to XFree86 v4.

I tried this once before and reached the point of preferring to
reinstall Linux rather than continue to try to get the upgrade (or
revert to prev version) to work.  Not that big a deal since the
installation was just a couple days old (I'm new to Linux).

So, IAC, what I want to be able to do is back up my current
configuration completely, and, if the upgrade fails, just restore off of
tape so that my setup is completely restored.

Any suggestions?

Thanks



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WordPerfect 8: icons mangled
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:43:03 +0100

Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> This problem is common with 24-bit displays, and occasionally with
> 32-bit displays. Try switching X to use a 16-bit display and see if it
> goes away. (BTW, several other programs, including Netscape, suffer from
> the same problem.)

> Rumor had it that XFree86 4.0 would include a workaround for this
> problem. 

I don't think it's an X problem. I think it's an Motif problem (It can't
handle 24 bit displays. Only 8, 16 and 32).

Now that it's been opened, maybe someone'll fix the problem in Motif.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:54:41 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>After users settle in and get used to reading man pages/HTML docs,

>  ...and after they get used to using ^P, ^N, ^B, and ^F insted of the arrow
> keys, 

What the HELL are you talking about? I have NEVER used those keys for text
navigation... Linux is about CHOICE, remember. You use whatever editor YOU
like, not what someone imposes on you. 

> and after they get used to having PgUp and PgDown only work
> sometiems, 

Work fine in tin, elm and joe... That's all I care about.

> and after they get used to using DEL insted of BACKSPACE 

My DEL deletes the character the cursor is on, my backspace deletes to the
left... Something wrong with that?

> and after they get used to waiting for Netscape and after they get used to
> tiping "mount" befoar loding a CD....

Never heard of automount either, I suppose...

<sings (to the tune of Mud, mud, glorious mud...)>
FUD, FUD, glorious FUD, nothing quite like it for heating the blood...

>>support costs would

>  ...go thru the roof. Youd shure make the UNIX gooru's happy, but the
> normle users will hate halving to rede MAN pages all the time and use VI
> to eddit text files.

Who's forcing VI on anyone? I certainly never use it. I never use emacs
either. (And only used microEmacs at university).

>>drop.  I think companies could have fewer people, but they
>>might need more competent people.  (2 Unix BOFH-types at $90,000 each is
>>less expensive than 6 tech-support Bobs at $30,000 each, factoring in
>>health insurance/benefits/etc.)  ICBW on all that, of course.

> But you'd nead 20 teck-support Bob's to handel all the users hoo are going
> to be calling to ask how to do things that wer eesy for them on Windos.

Why? Choose the correct window manager, and they'll take to it like a fish
to water. They won't even ever have to TOUCH the console if the window
manager's properly configured.

>>>2) Is this culture of on-line helpfulness impervious to a)increasing
>>>numbers of Linux users, b)increasing numbers of queries from Linux users
>>>at companies who--it might be perceived--could afford to hire people to
>>>generate in-house the answers they are instead getting through the
>>>kindness of strangers.
>>
>>Good question.  <soapbox>I believe that I am *required* to help people
>>with Linux support, as my code's full of nasty quick hacks and I'm too

> Doant' beet yourself up. Everyother Open Sore's programmer's coad is full
> of nasty hack's and bugs to Lie-nux is all maid up of nasty hack's thats'
> why it sucks so mutch.

How much is uncle Bill paying you for this? Too much I think, seeing as
you're doing such a shit job at it.

>>poor to give loads of cash to the FSF, yet I need to give back to the
>>community in some way.  As such, if I can help somebody, I will, whether
>>they're Joe Home User or Jane Corporate User.  Linux has been built on a
>>culture of altruism and knowledge-sharing; we should keep it up as much as
>>possible and encourage those who've learned something to share it.
>></soapbox>
>>
>>That said, I'd be more motivated, less sarcastic/bitchy, and able to help
>>more people if somebody were paying me by the hour to solve Linux
>>problems.
>>

> Maybe youd be abal to rite better coad to.

Maybe you've be more comfortable if you removed your keyboard from your
arse.

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From: "Philip A. Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting from rescue disks
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:16:23 GMT

Dan wrote:
> 
> I am tryig to mount my hda5 root partition from a boot disk since I screwed
> up my XF86 config files and now can't log into my computer. When I try to
> mount it from my rescue disk it says, "couldm't mount RDWR because of
> unsupported optional features".
> 
> Has anybody got any ideas what this means and how I can mount this partition?
> 
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Unfortunately, I do not know the answer to your specifig question. 
However, perhaps you can try linux 3 or linux single at the lilo
prompt.  linux 3 should start linux in init 3 (terminal login).  linux
single should start linux in single user mode where you will have root
access to your system.  In either mode, you can fix your XF86config so
that when you next boot into init 5, it works.

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From: Mike O'Dorney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Old text games
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:26:12 -0700

Many old Unix installations included a bunch of text-based
games - like Quiz.  Are these still around?  Are they
somewhere in Red Hat 6.x ?
--
Mike O'Dorney
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"To reply, please remove appropriate word."



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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:32:43 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: stability of culture of helpfulness

Tim Palmer wrote:

>
>  ...and after they get used to using ^P, ^N, ^B, and ^F insted of the arrow
> keys, and after they get used
> to having PgUp and PgDown only work sometiems, and after they get used
> to using DEL insted of BACKSPACE and
> after they get used to waiting for Netscape and after they get used to
> tiping "mount" befoar loding a CD....

Gee, I must have a broken version of Linux then.  I use the arrow keys with no 
problem.  PgUp and PgDown work just fine and DEL and BACKSPACE do the proper
thing.   And if you try to mount a CD BEFORE loading it, you of course will get an 
error.  But then I never have to type mount because the CD is automatically
mounted.   You  really should try Linux before bashing it.  It is obvious you know 
nothing about Linux or Unix.

And you still haven't retracted you statement about Linux for S/390 requiring VM.    
This is just another example of your total ignorance.

Gary


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From: "Raja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: trpt in Linux
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:37:51 GMT

Does anyone know if trpt is available in Linux? I was using it before in BSD
unix and now the linux box doesn't have it. Thanks in advance.
Raja




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Subject: Re: linux as a client :-(
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:39:50 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>       Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> RPM may be GPL, but many programs in RPM are not.
> 
>> There are enough custom
>> changes to stop them from running in non-RH systems.

Please stop badmouthing RedHat. RPM uses pristine source. What they
do is simply have patches which make it work better (or at all) on
their system. BTW this is what BSD systems do with pkg_add. Almost
every system has to make some customization for a program to run.
This is what RedHat also does. This is not proprietarization but
customization.

Do you know any program written by RedHat which is not free?
Nobody stops anybody to use rpm. Many other companies use it.

> Sorry, your arguments don't make sense. You certainly have a right to
> dislike Red Hat, and I'm not going to argue that Red Hat is without
> flaws, but you're accusing Red Hat of things they do not -- and legally
> may not -- do. Please be more precise in your arguments against Red Hat.

Exactly.

Vilmos

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From: "Philip A. Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Old text games
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:47:34 GMT

Mike O'Dorney wrote:
> 
> Many old Unix installations included a bunch of text-based
> games - like Quiz.  Are these still around?  Are they
> somewhere in Red Hat 6.x ?
> --
> Mike O'Dorney
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "To reply, please remove appropriate word."
If you have them installed, the text-based games are located in
/usr/games.  This directory is not in you path by default, so you will
have to either add it to your path, or provide the full path to the
binary you wish to run.

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Subject: Re: Old text games
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:57:14 GMT

"Philip A. Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Mike O'Dorney wrote:
> > 
> > Many old Unix installations included a bunch of text-based
> > games - like Quiz.  Are these still around?  Are they
> > somewhere in Red Hat 6.x ?
> > --
> > Mike O'Dorney
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "To reply, please remove appropriate word."
> If you have them installed, the text-based games are located in
> /usr/games.  This directory is not in you path by default, so you will
> have to either add it to your path, or provide the full path to the
> binary you wish to run.

It was moved to the 'powertools' cd in the latest Redhat distribution
I think. I think it was called bsd-games or something.

-- 
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Binyomin Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Literary Criticism
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:52:46 -0500



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Where can I go to find literary criticism on the short story, "The Lottery"
> by Shirley Jackson?
>
> How can I compose my literary criticism information into a research paper
> on "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson?
>
>

I'm afraid this newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do with your question,
but it so happens that I teach college English. You can find listings
of critical articles in the MLA Index, which is now a database.
Ask your reference librarian for help. Nobody is going to be able to tell
you how to write a research paper in one post. Isn't that what the
teacher that assigned this paper is teaching you?

Binyomin



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From: Binyomin Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Literary Criticism
Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:52:10 -0500



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Where can I go to find literary criticism on the short story, "The Lottery"
> by Shirley Jackson?
>
> How can I compose my literary criticism information into a research paper
> on "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson?
>
>

I'm afraid this newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do with your question,
but it so happens that I teach college English. You can find listings
of critical articles in the MLA Index, which is now a database.
Ask your reference librarian for help. Nobody is going to be able to tell
you how to write a research paper in one post. Isn't that what the
teacher that assigned this paper is teaching you?

Binyomin



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