Linux-Misc Digest #831, Volume #21 Thu, 16 Sep 99 02:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Help: Max No. of clients supported... (Bob Farmer)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Ken Pizzini)
Install Window Maker (EZ)
Re: linuxconf for suse 6.2 (B'ichela)
tiffg3 to jpg conversion? (Son Trung Nguyen)
New Widget toolkit for console ("Ben")
Re: tiffg3 to jpg conversion? (Daniel Robert Franklin)
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
cd burning (Travis Kidd)
Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux (Dave Brown)
Dim Display ("Cliff McCullough")
Re: how do i create a device? (Larry Ozarow)
Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Win install after Linux?? (Leonard Evens)
Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root? (Daniel Robert Franklin)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Farmer)
Crossposted-To:
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.protocols.smb,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help: Max No. of clients supported...
Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:57:02 -0500
For Samba, it depends more on the traffic level than the number of users.
Number of users will dictate how much RAM you'll need though. Samba needs
a lot more RAM than a Windows fileserver to support lots of users.
We have a machine here that supports about 1000-1500 simultaneous
connections with Samba, fairly high-traffic too (the machine is on Fast
Ethernet and normally runs between 20 megabits and 80 megabits of output
traffic). It's a dual P2-450 with 1GB RAM. Probably only really needs
768MB, but the extra helps a lot for caching. For 72 users, 128MB should
be fine.
NE2000 ISA network cards are crap though, I'd get some good PCI ones
(Intel EtherExpress PRO/100 or a tulip-based card).
Apache is a different story entirely. Depends on what you're doing with
it.
Bob
In article <e3ZD3.1197$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jonathan Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I use a Caldera 1.3 linux box, with a P90, and 16mb of ram as a
>fileserver/gateway/firewall/webserver/email server for a network of about
>100 clients most are 98 or 95. We also have to NT servers and 2 Unix
>database servers on the network. Our network is BNC, or non UTP. It's
>pretty old, but stuff still flies even if our servers do SUCK! Good luck!
>The number of clients will not matter!
>
>--
>Jonathan Kline, A+
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> We are planning to run a Linux server in a school to provide file
>> service and Internet service. There are about 72 Win'98 clients that
>> are going to hook up to the server, and Samba and Apache are chosen to
>> support these services. These clients are divided into two groups. One
>> group has 37 clients and the other 35. These two groups belong to two
>> different subnets (Say, 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 and
>> 192.168.2.0/255.255.255.0) Do you think a single Linux box with Samba
>> running is capable of supporting all these client machines? The Linux
>> box will have two network cards, each supporting a different subnet of
>> clients. The Linux box is made up of an Intel 350 Mhz CPU, 128M RAM,
>> and SCSI hard-drive (SCSI-2, I guess) and two generic NE2000 network
>> cards, installed with Mandrake Linux 6.0 BTW, the network is running on
>> coaxial cables... (Pretty old...)
>>
>> Please help...
>>
>> Jimmy
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Bob Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computer Services, Sam Houston State University; Huntsville, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Pizzini)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 03:18:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 15 Sep 1999 22:30:04 GMT, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Star does this since 1885,
Wow! Was star initially written for a Babbage Analytical Engine?
:-)
--Ken Pizzini
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From: EZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Install Window Maker
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:11:23 -0500
I'm using Zipslack with X Window and am trying to install Window Maker.
I followed the directions in the INSTALL file and can get
the LibPropList installed with no errors.
I can get through the ./configure on the Window Maker directory, but
when I do a make I get this error:
raster.c:27: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
wraster.h:46: (same as above)
wraster.h:47: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory
any clues
Thanks.
remove NODUH from email address to reply
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B'ichela)
Subject: Re: linuxconf for suse 6.2
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:47:41 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 22:56:24 +0100, Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And verily, didst Norbert Wegener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>> I am looking for linuxconf for suse 6.2, but I cannot find it.
>> Could anyone point me to an url?
>
>Errrr...
>Linuxconf is a RedHat thing.
Interesting you should say that. as Linuxconf Also has a
Slackware release! look in www.freshmeat.net for linuxconf and its
home page (might be: http://www.linuxconf.org I have the Slackware
version installed here (running slackware 3.9. I believe the linuxconf
source code Can be compiled for any distribution you would like.
--
A pearl of wisdom from the y2K newsgroups:
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Y2K appears to be the Baby Boomers mid-life crisis, and it has the
potential to be a dandy.
-- Anonymnous --
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B'ichela
N O T E
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen)
Subject: tiffg3 to jpg conversion?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 03:04:57 GMT
Dear Netter,
I am in need of a piece of software to perform graphic format
conversion between { tiffg3/fax graphic format --> jpeg format. }
Do you know if there is such a tool for linux? I am looking for
something that can be invoked on the command line so I can run it
in a batch script.
Or if you have a piece of C/Perl code to do that I can use those :)
thanks,
sn
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From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Widget toolkit for console
Date: 16 Sep 1999 03:36:23 GMT
I have mucked around a bit and made a small widget toolkit for the console.
I have a screenshot at my website. http://beam.to/bnolan
It is based on jlib and svgalib at the moment - but all the gfx routines
are in one unit, and it can be easily ported by changing #defines.
The code is workable right now, almost useful even. But I would like some
feedback, or someone to talk to about this. I eventually hope to make it so
you can run multiple apps on the same screen (like X).
Ben Nolan
beam.to/bnolan
--[Some stuff follows]--------------------------------------------------
The system constraints are currently:
* Very efficient (486dx66 + 640x480x256 + 16megs ram)
* Good looking
* Easy to program for
These are offset against:
* Flexibility.. Buttons only have onClick event. Checkboxes have no events
etc. You have to follow reasonably strict GUI ideals
* Fixed 256 colors, which is good, it's how NScape works, but it's also
limiting for really graphical stuff.
Other stuff:
* Expandable in a quiet way. Eg primitive widget, has onEnter, onExit,
onClick, onDragDrop, onKey, onRedraw etc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Robert Franklin)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: tiffg3 to jpg conversion?
Date: 16 Sep 99 04:22:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Son Trung Nguyen) writes:
>I am in need of a piece of software to perform graphic format
>conversion between { tiffg3/fax graphic format --> jpeg format. }
>Do you know if there is such a tool for linux? I am looking for
>something that can be invoked on the command line so I can run it
>in a batch script.
"convert" which is part of the ImageMagick package should do what you
want. It should be available on all major Linux distributions.
HTH,
- Daniel
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* Daniel Franklin - Postgraduate student in Electrical Engineering
* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:52:10 GMT
On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:31:10 GMT, Indica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>John Hasler wrote:
[snip]
> If you want pages to look their best...use the best browser, which
>at the moment is IE5 (windows) and in a few months will be Mozilla 5 .
Bloated, slow, unreliable code, as well as having more holes in security than
swiss cheese, has, nor will it ever have, anything to do with a good browser,
regardless of number of features supported.
Wade Segade
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove the obvious)
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From: Travis Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: cd burning
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:24:12 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am considering buying a new PII 400 with Linux OS, but I work with a
lot of .wav and other music oriented files and with recording apps. I
also use CD Creator with a Phillips CDD2600 CD-R. Should I stay away
from Linux or are there music resourses out there? I have been
interested in trying it for a while, But I don't really see any
advantages yet?
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Travis
--
Check out my web site at http://www.travis.kidd.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Converting MS-Word to other formats under Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Sep 99 04:31:26 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neil Zanella wrote:
>
>Is it possible to convert MS-Word to other formats like Corel Word
>Perfect, LaTeX, etc... under Linux (or other OSs but preferably Linux)
>with commercial or free software?
>Does Corel WP for Linux do this?
>Does Star Office for Linux do this?
Both Applixware and WP for Linux have "filters" to convert MS-Word docs to
their formats. The results vary depending upon which features of MS-Word
have been used. (MS-Word97 doesn't do that well with MS-Word6 for that
matter...) I've found the conversion filters on WP7 for Win95 to do a
better job of conversion than WP for Linux... so if I have a difficult
time with a document, I boot into Windows and do the conversion there.
It's a pain, but it's sometimes necessary. Applix didn't do well at
all with my Word documents--but they're one level higher now than the
one I tried.
I did see a project on "freshmeat" that provides a conversion from
MS-Word to html...
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: "Cliff McCullough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dim Display
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:19:53 GMT
My display is very dim almost washed out. My display was not listed in the
list and I used a model one that I thought was close to my monitor. Is
there something I can check.
Cliff McCullough
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From: Larry Ozarow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: how do i create a device?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:07:17 GMT
Steve wrote:
> it seems another user on our system deleted our cdrom device. how do i
> create a device in the /dev directory?
/dev/cdrom is always a link to a physical device. If you have an ide drive
it'll be one of hda through
hdd (in order: ide primary master, ide primary slave, ide secondary
master, ide secondary slave), if scsi it depends on the device number and
the scsi bus it's on if you have more than one scsi adapter. You can tell
from the bootup messages where it is, or by looking in the box, esp if
it's ide. Then if for example it's hdb, do "ln -s /dev/hdb /dev/cdrom."
Oz
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is best HTML Editor for LINUX?
Date: 15 Sep 1999 22:12:07 PDT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:37e058be.12047996@news...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:31:10 GMT, Indica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >John Hasler wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > If you want pages to look their best...use the best browser, which
> >at the moment is IE5 (windows) and in a few months will be Mozilla 5 .
>
> Bloated, slow, unreliable code, as well as having more holes in security
than
> swiss cheese, has, nor will it ever have, anything to do with a good
browser,
> regardless of number of features supported.
Who asked that?
The best web designer's HTML editor I've found is Homesite. I sure wish
Allaire would port it to Linux.
Matt O.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win install after Linux??
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:09:05 -0500
"Marco S. Torini" wrote:
>
> My new computer will have SuSe-Linux preinstalled as the only OS.
> Since it's the most recent version (and I won't get the CDs), I'd quite
> like to keep it, but for my work it's absolutely necessary to have Win
> 95/98 installed as well.
> My question:
> is it possible by any means to install Windows subsequently on a Linux
> system?
> I only know it the other way round.
> I'd be very grateful for any hints, be it only the negative assertion
> that this isn't possible at all.
>
> Thanx 2 all who care 2 answer....
Windows is usually put in the first partition on the disk.
I'm not sure this is necessary, but if you don't put it there,
you may have to do some fiddling with lilo at the very least
to boot Windows.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: General Rant from a Linux Newbie
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 05:46:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rpc9v$9r7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Dominico, Jr.) wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <7rmd63$4ag$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>-- snip --
>
>> >Because there would be, for example, an Icon on the KDE desktop which
>> >launched KRPM, for installing software.
>> >
>> >Point and click. Just as the MS-Cheerleaders proclaim it must be
>> >done.
>>
>> For the millionth time, no one is insisting that it _MUST_ be done
>> that way...
>
>This is just plain wrong . . . you must be new here.
Okay, fine. I am not insisting this, nor are most of the other posts I
have read that seem to agree with me. What this could possibly have to do
with the length of time I have spent here, I don't know. My guess is,
others in this group have over time. Sorry about that, but you can't fault
me for it.
>-- snip --
>
>> I guess your plan is for every home user to hire a sysadmin so that
>> they can install Quicken, or update their browser/office suite/etc...
>
>No, my "plan" is for people to understand a directory tree, and other
>***BASICS*** of computing, so they can install with intelligence.
>
>A computer is a tool. In every other trade, a tool's user is expected to
>understand the tool(s) of his/her trade. But not with computers. No
>siree, that's "elitism."
No, calling them bozos if they don't take any interest in this is elitism,
as you have in previous posts. Again, we all agree that it would be *nice*
if they did learn these concepts, but... maybe they don't want to. Maybe
they want to just click a button, send some email, write a document, etc.
You seem to believe that they do not want to learn because they have been
"brainwashed" to believe that it is not important. But I think it's the
other way around. Users are the ones who have showed their desire (as
evidenced by their "dollar votes") for ease-of-use. If they wanted to
understand more about the workings of the computer, they would have
protested when MS moved away from DOS and to the GUI. They wouldn't have
bought Macs, etc. You feel that this desire to be "ignorant" of computer
workings is the product of MS marketing, but I think you're putting the
cart before the horse.
Anyway, liek it said, it would be nice for them to learn this stuff, but
MUST they? Heck, I would even go so far to say that it is advisable, but I
will not refer to them as "ignorant bozos" because they don't want to. I
believe that computing technologies have advanced to the point that they
shouldn't _have_ to. If you really want to play the analogy game some
more, here we go... When I get sick, I want to be able to take a pill to
make me better. Even though the workings of the pill involve very complex
chemical reactions, I know nothing of these. Chemists and scientists work
very hard to make sure that I can simply take it, and be done with it. A
pill is just a tool, like a computer. Yes, I am sure you will find fault
with this analogy, but my point is that there ARE very complex things that
we use, that we need know almost nothing about. And a pill can have far
more deadly effects than the uninformed use of a computer. Just food for
thought... I am not advocating ignorance. I advocate the study of them.
But I am asking you to consider the idea that maybe, just maybe, users
shouldn't _have_ to if they don't want to.
>-- snip --
>
>> what happens at update time? And with the proliferation of sites
>> like download.com, I have a hard time believing that most users
>> will never need/want to install more than the system comes with.
>
>How many *ordinary* end-users d/l files from the internet? How many
>**completely computer-ignorant** end-users do? How many "I don't wanna
>know NUTHIN about computers" end-users do?
>
>And what kind of results do each class of end-users typically get?
Well, depending on the programmers who wrote the program and/or its install
procedure, they might be pretty good. I am sure that there are some very
smart users who have been hosed by installing programs, as well as some
very uninformed ones.
>-- snip --
>
>> Your argument is against the whole concept of point-and-click.
>
>No, my argument is against blatant, willful, actively-sought ignorance.
>
>> What I am saying (if you would listen) is that there is a place for
>> _BOTH_ point-and-click, CLI, etc.
>
>And if *you* would listen, you would notice that I never claimed CLI to
>be superior to GUI. Never even implied as much.
And I never implied that you implied it. (Whew!) I merely offer the
example of CLI as a way to have more control over your system.
>You misunderstand the phrase, "mindlessly click thru a wizard." You jump
>to the erroneous conclusion that I prefer using a CLI to install. No. I
>prefer "intelligently clicking thru a wizard."
The very concept of a "wizard" implies that a user doesn't *need* to know
much about the process taking place... OK, I guess it would be advisable
that they know what the wizard means if it asks them a question, but that
might not involve much knowledge of the filesystem, etc. When was the last
time you had to change the default install location for a Windows app?
Maybe if you wanted to, but you probably didn't need to. I do agree that
if the wizard asked a question the user didn't understand, they should seek
help.
Anyway, as you can see I am more than willing to rationally listen to your
points, and concede in spots where I agree with you. I mean, when it boils
down to it, I agree that users would be well-served to understand the
system. But, some may not want to, and I don't believe that this is from
MS, or Apple, or any company.
Well, it's about bedtime, so goodnight and sweet dreams. :-)
Tom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Robert Franklin)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.windows.x.kde
Subject: Re: Can I set up /dev/floppy to be mounted by non-root?
Date: 16 Sep 99 03:59:37 GMT
TXS II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I just ran across this in my "Running Linux" boox by matt welsh and lar
>kaufman, old but very helpful, any it states that the manual page for mount
>listts possible values for options in the /etc/fstab file. The file is
>organize like this:
>#device directory type options
>/dev/fd0 /disk ext2 user
>now putting this in /etc/fstab would make linux try to mount at boot time.
>I've never done this, but maybe this will send you in the right direction.
Also add the option "noauto" if you don't want it mounted when the machine
boots. And better than "ext2" is "auto" which will automatically detect
DOS disks as well as ext2, minix etc.
>> Using RH6.0 and I like KDE best.
>>
>> Can I (and should I, for that matter) set permissions for /dev/floppy to
>> allow all users to mount it?
>>
You can make it 666 (or a+rw for read-write access for everybody) but
better would be to create a group for the people you want to be able to
use the floppy device, chmod 660 /dev/fd0, and chown root.floppy /dev/fd0.
You can also edit /etc/login.defs to temporarily add users logging in on
the console to this group (although I've never got this to work from local
XDM session).
Enough rambling :-) Have fun.
- Daniel
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