Linux-Misc Digest #859, Volume #21 Sat, 18 Sep 99 09:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? ("T.E.Dickey")
How do I fetch PPP stats in Kernel 2.2.15? (Taura)
Re: Linux autoprobe doesn't detect my SCSI card... (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Re: ATAPI Zip disk on Linux (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Linux und AMD, geht das? (Norbert Stoop)
Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt. (John Thompson)
Re: Caldera 2.3 Install-- Smoooooooth (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Re: Samba browser? (Norbert Stoop)
Re: WaveLAN drivers for linux (Raymonds Doetjes)
Re: Can't mount CDROM (Jerry L Kreps)
Can Linux read Mac files? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Adding swap space to drive with data... easy? (Artur Swietanowski)
Re: <<<Lets face it...Linux is for geeks like u n me>>> (Gergo Barany)
Xircom Modem ("Stephan")
Si NO quiere $$$$$$ en menos de una semana ("Federico")
Re: Perl Debugger/step by step code Interpreter (Adrian Hands)
Good network programming guide ("Philipp Leser")
Re: <<<Lets face it...Linux is for geeks like u n me>>> ("Terence Parker")
[Q] Source Upgrade Using RPM (Young4ert)
Re: Linux support for FAT filesystems with long file names? (Omegaman)
Re: How can I change telephone numbers in /etc/chatscript with a dialog? (Ian Smith)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Matthias Warkus)
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:10:53 GMT
Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> In a message on Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:38:50 GMT, wrote :
> m> Can tar files made on tapes under one architecture/OS be transported to
> m> another architecture/OS?
> YES!
no (GNU tar has some defect which occasionally prevents its output from
being read on Solaris ;-)
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: Taura <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: How do I fetch PPP stats in Kernel 2.2.15?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 14:28:50 PDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anyone have some example code to open the ppp0 interface and fetch
PPP stats?
The current code I have for 2.0.13 wouldn't even compile with 2.2.15, it
looks like
there were some major changes.
Could someone please help me, this information is needed to upgrade
XPPPConsole
to 2.2.x kernels.
(Please reply on this news group)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Linux autoprobe doesn't detect my SCSI card...
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:38:45 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi
>
> I've got a SCSI card which Windows recognises as an Adaptec
> AHA-150x/1510/152x/AIC-6x60 SCSI Host Adapter. When I installed Linux, I=
> tried
> to get it to dect the card by selecting the Adaptec 152x adapter from the=
> list.
> When the autoprobe didn't work for that, I tried all of the other Adapte=
> c
> cards on the list, but none could be autoprobed.
>
> Any ideas on how I can fix this up? Thanks.... :)
>
>
> Tim
>
RH 6.0 didn't detect most of my cards (scsi, network, modem, sound), even
if I entered the irq and address manually during install. I had to later
manually (using linuxconf) set up the network card which is now working.
but have yet to resolve and get working the scsi,modem,sound....
KAC
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KAC Website Design
Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kacweb.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: ATAPI Zip disk on Linux
Date: 18 Sep 1999 08:25:05 GMT
In article <7rur8o$90b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greig Scott wrote:
>I am having some awkward behaviour with an ATAPI zip disk that
>I swap in place of my CD-ROM drive on my laptop
What a coincidence, I just picked up an US$80 NEC ATAPI ZIP drive.
>First, it appears that the documentation on the web is somewhat
>out of date. The mini-howto suggested that ATAPI Zip drives
>either required CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=Y (include IDE/ATAPI Floppy
>support) or SCSI emulation support= Y.
I used CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY.
> I mount as
>mount -t vfat /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zip (for some reason partition 4).
>Then I do cd /mnt/zip and files are there. I can do umount /mnt/zip
>and eject hdc and out pops my zip disk. PERFECT!
>
>Ok, so it turns out that zero work is required to mount a DOS
>formatted ATAPI zip disk,
Well you need to get a kernel or module with CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY.
Zeroing out a fresh disk which came with a macintosh FS, I get a strange
error:
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 16:41 (hdd), sector 196544
kernel: hdd: The drive reports both 100663296 and 100646912 bytes as its capacity
kernel: hdd: hdd1
>BUT, I wanted to format the disk for native linux filesystem (ext2).
>I found that if I start with a DOS formatted zip disk, and do
>mke2fs -m 0 /dev/hdc4
>it works! (/mnt/zipln and /mnt/zip were created prior to this with
>mkdir).
The DOS partition table comes in with the right sizes.
>
>However, if I format as
>mke2fs /dev/hdc4
Then you're letting the driver decide how big the partition can be,
and the driver gets the wrong answer. Do this:
mke2fs -c -m0 /dev/hdc4 98270
or whatever number you get with wc /dev/hdc4 or
dd conv=noerror if=/dev/hdc4 of=/dev/null bs=1k
>So the default mke2fs, which reserves 5% of disk space, does
>not create a valid linux zip disk.
The 95% user space has nothing to do with it. Your mkfs
was just writing past the end of the media because the
driver gave it the wrong size.
>However, if I then do
>mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc4 /mnt/zipln
>cd /mnt/zipln
This will only work if there was a directory /mnt/zipln
when you started.
>There is some mention of problems with fdisk and DOS 6.0 in the man
>documentation.
Fdisk is broken. Use cfdisk if you can't live with it.
>Can anybody else duplicate this behaviour on built in ZIP drives?
Once you know the media size they work great.
Cameron
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:44:18 +0200
From: Norbert Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux und AMD, geht das?
Wolfgang Morgenthaler wrote:
> =
> Hi,
> =
> ich m=F6chte mir einen Rechner mit AMD-Prozessor zulegen und darauf Lin=
ux
> installieren.Nun habe ich das Ger=FCcht (?) geh=F6rt, da=DF Linux mit A=
MD =F6fters
> Schwierigkeiten bereitet?
> =
> Stimmte das? Gibt es jemanden der damit keine Schwierigkeiten hat bzw.
> best=E4tigen kann, da=DF er Schwierigkeiten hat?
> =
> Viele Gr=FC=DFe
> Wolfgang Morgenthaler
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wie ich neulich erfahren habe, hat Linux auch mit dem K7 (Athlon) keine
Probleme, das System muss weder angepasst noch optimiert werden. Was bei
solch neuen Systemen aber unter Linux problematisch sein kann, ist
manchmal die Ultra-DMA-=DCbetragung f=FCr die Festplatte. Hier muss man h=
in
und wieder von Hand gewisse Dinge manipulieren, um optimale Performance
herauszubekommen. Das hat mit dem AMD K7 aber herzlich wenig zu tun.
Gruss,
Norbert
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you shutdown X and get back to the command prompt.
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 21:42:48 -0600
Bjarne Wichmann Petersen wrote:
>
> "Raterus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skriver:
>
> R> I'm running redhat 6.0 and noticed they inconveniently left out
> R> how to shutdown X and go back to the command prompt. How do you
> R> do this and if possible how can I add this to an option on my
> R> logoff window?
> I'm guessing you are running gdm. In that case you 'can't' [well,
> CTRL-ALT-DEL would do it I think].
I'm not sure about gdm, but you can kill xdm with CTRL-R,
which will leave you at the text "login:" prompt. From
there, a CTRL-ALT-DELETE should shutdown the machine.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Caldera 2.3 Install-- Smoooooooth
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:44:50 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> On Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:40:19 -0500, Lori Holder-Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Stan Barr wrote:
> >> I've heard good things about Calderas installation - I was thinking
> >> about using for my new box. While I don't mind installing stuff myself,
> >> I would like to find a distro I could recommend to complete newbies.
> >> Anyone else any comments?
> >>
> >
> [snip]
> >The two programs were really different when it came to configuration.
> >Caldera did a great job at setting up my internet connection (ethernet)
> >and my peripheral storage devices.
> [snip]
> >I've recommended Caldera to my husband for his computer at home, where
> >he doesn't have to mess with the Windows networking interfaces. RedHat
> >is what I use at the office.
> >
> >Lori
>
> That gives me a bit of confidence. I've run Linux for about 3 years now,
> and with the current interest in Linux a number of people have asked me
> about it. I have visions of them expecting me to install it, set it up
> and provide free life-time technical support! If I can say to them "Get this
> CD, put it into the computer and answer the questions." it will get me off
> the hook......
You wish.... <grin>
KAC
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Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kacweb.com
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Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:58:02 +0200
From: Norbert Stoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba browser?
Kertis Henderson wrote:
>
> Peter Caffin wrote:
> >
> > Create:
> >
> > A script which:
> >
> > (i) Uses smbmount to mount those directories.
> > (ii) Calls any of the many many graphical file managers out there (the
> > vast majority will let you set the starting directory as a command-line
> > argument.
> >
> > Edit your window manager's menu configuration to create an entry for this
>
> That's cool, but it doesn't exactly help if you don't already know all
> of the names of computers on the LAN.
>
> --
>
> Kertis Henderson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you really want something like Microsoft's Network Neighborhood, you
should download LinNeighborhood. This is a very nice X11 application,
which lists all computers in your Samba network. You can see a
computer's share list just by double-clicking on the copmutername.
Mounting file shares is easy, too. Do a double-click on the share you
want to be mounted and type in your username and password, that's all.
Then you can browse the share using your usual file manager (such as
TkDesk, xfm etc.).
You can find the tool at www.linuxapps.com, section Network, Samba.
Make sure you've GTK installed on your system!
Regards,
Norbert
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From: Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: WaveLAN drivers for linux
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 10:57:58 +0200
Haha funny you ask, I just applied for a job at Lucent Netherlands wich develop
the WaveLan products, they solely provide Windows Drivers for the WaveLan Cards.
But when I ge in, I will use the info to right Linux drivers asswell. What you
can do for now, is use the WaveLAN wireless bridge technology. This is a
MAC layer bridge that connets to your LAN and talks to another point with a
WireLess bridge. We have used this for MUMPS servers than needed to export LAT
from 2 sites it works great. And their are now drivers for MUMPS ;) at all.
Raymond
William Schwartz wrote:
> Are drivers available for Lucent Technologies WaveLAN for linux (Redhat 6.0)?
>
> thanks,
> Bill
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't mount CDROM
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:32:21 -0500
Opps! I forgot --- be sure you have a CD in the drive first!
Chin Yew Tuck wrote:
>
> When I type :" mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom"
>
> Redhat 5.2 returned the error msg : "mount: /dev/cdrom is not a valid block
> device"
>
> I tried mounting the floppy drive, it worked. Can anybody help me to solve
> this problem ? Thank you.
>
> regards
> Chin
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can Linux read Mac files?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 16:57:49 PDT
Well, can Linux read Mac files? Can it mount and read Mac formatted
floppies?
Matt O.
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From: Artur Swietanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Adding swap space to drive with data... easy?
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:09:43 +0200
Mark D'Ascenzo wrote:
> I have a plan to reformat my partition table to add swap space.
My notes:
(a) after you delete the Win partition, you'll have three primary
partitions to use,
(b) you want to have 3 partitions, so why not make them primary?
(c) unless you have a 2.0.x kernel, your swap partitions need not
be bounded by the 127MB limit (I have a 1G swap on one
partition),
(d) so you really need only 2 partitions.
To summarize, it's probably possible to do *exactly* what you
outlined, but it's less dangerous and experimental, and quicker
to simply use 2 primary partitions.
HTH,
=====================================================================
Artur Swietanowski http://swietano.spedia.net
Institut f�r Statistik, Operations Research und Computerverfahren,
Universit�t Wien, Universit�tsstr. 5, A-1010 Wien, Austria
tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620 fax +43 (1) 427 738 629
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: <<<Lets face it...Linux is for geeks like u n me>>>
Date: 18 Sep 1999 11:47:53 GMT
Blacka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>That's Garbage. I have used Windows from the beginning, I even used to use
>DOS. I have used windows for about 4 years now, and I am but fed up of it.
I don't want to get caught up in advocacy issues, but I thought I'd
mention that "the beginning" of Windows was not four years ago. The
first Windows I used was 3.0 or 3.1 in 1991; the very first versions
must be more than ten years old now.
Gergo
--
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unskilled in the arts of composition, I resolved to write a book.
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From: "Stephan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Xircom Modem
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:27:00 +0800
Anyone with experience install a xircom modem card (cm56) on their Linux??
Would appreciated if someone willing to sharing their knowledges with me,...
Thanz,........
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From: "Federico" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: chasque.filosofia,inter.avisos,inter.internet,inter.politica
Subject: Si NO quiere $$$$$$ en menos de una semana
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:59:18 -0300
Si lo que quiere no es hacerse millonario en menos de una semana, sino
encontrar la maldita pagina que contenga la maldita informaci�n que usted a
estado buscando por un mes, encu�ntrela en menos de dos horas en:
http://www.chasque.apc.org/nunezart/
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Perl Debugger/step by step code Interpreter
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 07:49:34 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
J Chamney wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a Perl debugger, or a utility whereby one can
> execute Perlscript one line at a time, with the ability to examine
> variable values as you step through the program?
>
> Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Jim
It's built in to perl.
perl -d
Or, from within emacs, Esc-x perldb
It's nice within emacs because it splits the window into two frames and
follows along in the source code in the 2nd frame
man perldebug:
If you invoke Perl with the -d switch, your script runs
under the Perl source debugger. This works like an
interactive Perl environment, prompting for debugger
commands that let you examine source code, set
breakpoints, get stack backtraces, change the values of
variables, etc. This is so convenient that you often fire
up the debugger all by itself just to test out Perl
constructs interactively to see what they do.
-Adrian
Raleigh, NC
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From: "Philipp Leser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Good network programming guide
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:35:49 +0200
Hello,
I am trying to start with Linux network development but wasn't able to =
find any programming guides on the net.
(sockets etc.)
Do you know of any downloadable guides or good books about that topic? I =
am not looking for a general c programming introduction, a guide which =
leads through the network stuff would be sufficient.
Thanks,
Philipp Leser
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From: "Terence Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <<<Lets face it...Linux is for geeks like u n me>>>
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:45:12 +0800
I am a user of both Microsoft Windows and Red Hat Linux on a dual boot
system - and I have to say that whilst I try to use Linux more and more
nowadays, I am still unwilling to completely erase Windows from my system.
I have to agree with the thousands that Linux is faster, more flexible, FREE
(a huge advantage), and offers much more choice. However, until there is
truly a system which can be used with real ease, I do not see Linux ever
overtaking the Windows market.
For a fact I know that many computer users are not computer literate. Many
think Windows IS the computer, and whilst you may say this is simply pure
ignorance - they cannot be blamed for the fact that not many people have had
the opportunity to use anything else, with most schools reluctant to install
Linux (- take mine for example). Although Windows may crash a lot, programs
are still easy to install, easy to upgrade, and are aesthetically pleasing
to use. We must not overlook the fact that Gnome also crashes though, and
even though a simple 'Ctrl + Alt + Backspace' does the trick its still a
fact that it crashes. If you read my other post today, you can see what
problems I had upgrading Apache...
Microsoft products may cost money, may be prone to security problems - but
there's none of that manual configuration stuff which I have to do in Linux.
A nice graphical Linuxconf may come eventually, as might the fully automated
installation program that doesn't require you to download a million
libraries before you can compile it -- but until that day comes, Linux is
still my secondary OS.
Terence Parker.
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] Source Upgrade Using RPM
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:01:10 -0400
Hi,
I have the rpm source file from SuSE-6.2 Linux distro. I wanted to
recompile this source and reinstall it on my system. However, is it
possible to have the RPM taken care of upgrading the source file before
the compilation? If so, how? The manpage did not mention such a
feature ...
TIA.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.
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From: Omegaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux support for FAT filesystems with long file names?
Date: 17 Sep 1999 21:10:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You want vfat instead of msdos for the filesystem type. use
mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mountpoint
instead of:
mount -d msdos, etc...
> Hi
>
> I'm doing some web/java development on my PC on which I have both RedHat
> 6.0 Linux and Windows NT (and Windows'95) installed. I would like to be
> able to share files between both Windows NT and Linux so that I can do
> most of my programming under Linux but still use some of the authoring
> tools I have for Windows NT.
>
> I have a FAT partition into which I can put shared files and which is
> mounted by both Windows NT and Linux. When using Win95 or
> Windows NT I can use long file names. However, from Linux I can only get
> the short MSDOS version of the file names not the long versions that I
> can use with Windows NT.
>
> Can anyone tell me if there is a way in Linux to get access to the long
> filenames? I know that software such as mtools can use the long file
> names so the information must be accessible to Linux but I would like to
> use long file names on a mounted FAT filesyatem without having to
> manually copy files.
>
> I've had look through the Linux FAQ and the HOWTO's but although there
> is information on how to mount a MSDOS filesystem I found nothing about
> long filename support.
>
> thanks
>
> Dave
>
> --
> Dave Snowdon Tel: +33 (0)4 76 61 51 80
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>
>
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System Administrator - Fastband.com
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From: Ian Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How can I change telephone numbers in /etc/chatscript with a dialog?
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:46:57 +0100
Phillip Deackes wrote:
>
> Why a strange question? I already have cron jobs set up to dial in
> each night to collect mail and news. I think you misunderstand my
> question and assume I would not know how to set up such a simple thing.
Er, yes. sorry [g].
> As I said in my original question, my IP changes the telephone numbers
> each weekend and I want a way of adding the correct number on a Friday
> evening in a more elegant way than editing the chatscript. When I used
> an IP which used the same number each weekend it was easy to have a cron
> job which substituted the weekend number at midnight Friday and the
> weekday number at midnight Sunday.
I guess that depends on how you are notified of the number change. I am
still setting up my free access, but I know I have to log in to get to a
web page with the numbers. I think I need to look at wget (to download)
and expect (to handle the login).
If you are using pppconfig, I would think there is no option but to
generate the chatscript on the fly using echo commands, m4 or whatever.
--
============================================================================
Ian Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 13:28:33 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 17 Sep 1999 16:34:59 GMT...
..and Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >talking more files?). I gave up on Gnome/Enlightenment cuz they're so slow.
>
> You probably mean Enlightenment only. It's a very cool/impresive WM but
> it requires a high performant graphic card. Did you try GNOME with a
> smaller/faster WM like icewm or windowmaker? And the most parts of GNOME
> run independend, so you can disable gmc if you don't need this. Try this
> with kfm :)
I can only agree with you. If you don't do nonsensical spiffy stuff,
GNOME is fast. It's so fast it zorches.
#1 on the list of nonsensical spiffy stuff that can arbitrarily slow
GNOME down is of course using a pixmap-based GTK+ theme.
#2 is using Enlightenment as your window manager with a huge theme
(1280x1024 TrueColour backgrounds, enormous amounts of graphics in
borders and buttons, stuff like that)
mawa
--
_Braveheart_? I think I'd take any film over _Braveheart_ anytime.
Especially _Judge_Dredd_. It's almost the same film. Perhaps they just
did some postprocessing on _Braveheart_ to produce it. Or was it the
other way 'round? -- mawa
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