Linux-Misc Digest #859, Volume #24 Sun, 18 Jun 00 23:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: RedHat vs Slackware (Christopher Browne)
Re: How do you connect to an Intranet? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Mandrake 7.1 question ("Tom Brinkman")
Networking glitch: What's Up? (David Steuber)
Re: Security warnings by email (Dirk Freese)
Re: mounting as NTFS (Dirk Freese)
Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
net connection is very slow (Ravi S Manda)
Re: [Help:] Problems with NFS Daemon under 2.2.16 kernel (Tom Eastep)
img (DoItAgain)
Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO 90 in Linux (Kevin Brown)
Re: democracy? ("Colin R. Day")
Using X without mouse (Neo Brave)
Re: Using X without mouse (Edward Lee)
UMSDOS problems ("Schmerm")
Netscape & Other Web Browsers (DarkStar)
Squid transparent proxy/authentication (David Burris)
Re: Linux floating point/IEEE Std.745-1985 compliancy (Craig McCluskey)
Re: Squid transparent proxy/authentication (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: how to share /usr directory? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
consol like printer? (rez)
Re: Multiple NICs ("Zachary M. Morvik")
Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump (Mark Bratcher)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: RedHat vs Slackware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:10:01 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Simon Lemieux would say:
>> I really don't understand the mix of lnowledge you show. How can you be
>> asking about what distros support after showing that you are wanting
>> to compile things your way? A distro is just a bunch of compiled
>> software (sources provided). Once you start recompiling it and adding
>> or deleting stuff, and making things just as you like them to be, you're
>> not using the distro, you're replacing it.
>
>I think you didn't understand, I'm a programmer, therefore I program New
>applications, but sometimes I need applications that others made, such as X,
>since I will make lots of OpenGL programs I need it... I don't want to change
>any distribution, I was just asking if a distribution had all I wanted and
>that's all...
If you're asking what distributions have a "whole bunch of prepackaged
stuff so that you don't have to spend your time maintaining them," then
the answer is that whichever ones most diminish the time you have to spend
on maintenance are likely preferable to those that provide less assistance
with this.
I guess it begs the question:
-> Do you want some minimal assistance with this?
If so, then virtually _ANY_ distribution will suffice.
-> Do you want a hack-it-yourself distribution, that provides _no_
assistance with system management?
If so, then you really aren't asking the right questions.
You should be asking which variation on Slackware you should be
using.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
People can be set wondering by loading obscure personal patchable
systems, and sending bug reports. Who would not stop and wonder upon
seeing "Experimental TD80-TAPE 1.17, MegaDeath 2.5..."? The same for
provocatively-named functions and variables in stack traces.
-- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you connect to an Intranet?
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:26:43 GMT
John wrote:
>
> The intructions I was given for Windows95.
>
> 1) Add Microsoft/Netbeui protocol
> 2) In control panel double-click Network, and then
> chose client.
> 3) Add Microsoft/client for Microsoft Networks and click ok.
> In its properties, check Logon to Windows NT Domain and type
> domain name CIS.
> 4)In add/remove programs in Windows setup tab, check
> communications/Virtual Private Networking and click OK.
>
> To make the a PPTP connection to CIS network over the
> Internet I have to follow these steps:
> <snip>
OK, so you're using a PPTP VPN. You'll need a client to
be able to connect to it.
http://www.pdos.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian/Projects/PPTP/
I can't tell you how to set it up, but it's probably
in a README when you download the client.
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From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1 question
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:45:31 -0600
In article <394cd938@omega>, "Mauricio Bahamonde Massa"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the new 7.1 version of Mandrake, is it fixed the lilo problem
> of the 1024 cylinder???I have a 18 gigs hard drive and mandrake
> 7.0 lilo doesn't work.......
>
>
7.1 uses 'grub' or you can specify 'lilo'. Neither have the
1024 limit. You can also use the 'new' lilo or grub with 7.0
--
~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Networking glitch: What's Up?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:59:59 GMT
I have the Gateway Solo 5150 laptop computer running kernel 2.2.16 and
pcmcia-cs 3.1.16. Occasionally, when I am xfering data over the
network ( 3COM 575B pcmcia NIC ), the networking services freeze up
quite hard. The only cure is to open up cardmanager and reset the
NIC.
david@solo:> /sbin/lsmod
Module Size Used by
3c575_cb 19948 2
cb_enabler 2280 2 [3c575_cb]
ds 6728 2 [cb_enabler]
i82365 23612 2
pcmcia_core 47680 0 [cb_enabler ds i82365]
Either there is a bug in pcmcia-cs, the driver for the NIC, or the NIC
has a hardware bug. How do I find out which it is? I suppose the bug
could also be in the kernel or NFS.
This problem has existed for all earlier kernels that I have used in
the 2.2.x and 2.0.36 series. I have used earlier versions of
pcmcia-cs as well. In some cases, I used the versions as they came
from SuSE, and others I have been using my own builds. I am currently
running SuSE 6.2 and my own compiled kernel and pcmcia-cs.
The compiler makes no difference either.
This bug has a high probability of occuring when I am listening to
music over the lan. My other machine has a larger HD, so I keep my
mp3 files there, but I occasionally play them on the laptop and listen
with headphones. I use NFS to mount the disks from the other machine.
I have on occasion moved large amounts of data over the network, using
NFS, without problem. This is one of those 'intermitent' bugs.
Any useful suggestions that help track down and kill the culprit will
be gratefully accepted.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Dirk Freese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Security warnings by email
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:53:12 +0200
Hi,
take a look at logsrufer:
http://www.cert.dfn.de/eng/logsurf/
Dirk
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From: Dirk Freese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mounting as NTFS
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:09:39 +0200
Hi,
> HI need to rescue an NT SCSI HD and I was wondering about cooking up a
> ram-disk with SCSI and NTFS, mount /dev/sda1 as NTFS and replace a
> corrupted file. However, I noticed from menuconfig that NTFS read/write
> mode is new and DANGEROUS. I am wondering if anyone out there had any
> similar experience? how dangerous are we talking about here?
you're right, the driver for NTFS is quite alpha 'til now. I have a dual
boot system running here with NT 4 and Linux.
I dared to install the NTFS read/write access. Without any problems. I
guess you might find your files permissions messed up somehow but I never
expirienced any damage to my NTFS partition. Only one thing: Don't forget
to unmount it properly.
Anyway: The file is already damaged. So you've got nothing to lose ...
Dirk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: 18 Jun 2000 19:27:30 -0400
[Snipped previous discussion of dump vs tar for linux]
One problem I noticed it that Linux dump ONLY dumps complete filesystems, even
though the man page says it dumps filesystems and directories!
I've got everything on one partition (/usr /home /etc...), but I only
want to backup /home. Is there an easy way to do this?
BTW, I also discovered that TAR has a 2GB file limit!!! So I can't use
this one either...
Any help is appreciated,
Richard
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
From: Ravi S Manda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: net connection is very slow
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:03:17 GMT
Hi,
I am pretty new to Linux. I have installed Mandrake 7.1 (linux 2.2.14)
When I connect to the net (Freewwweb is the ISP) using a 56K modem and
kppp, the connection tells me it connected at 50K. But when I bring up
netscape, it takes 5 minutes to load http://www.linux-mandrake.com !!!
It takes that much time, for almost any site on net.
I tried tuning my irqs (giving higher interrupt for the modem) it still
didn't imporove much. Is there anything I can do to get atleast 28.8 ?
I have a P-III w/128MB ram.
Thanks!
=====
-Ravi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Eastep)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: [Help:] Problems with NFS Daemon under 2.2.16 kernel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:53:15 -0700
Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez wrote:
>Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:58:54 +0200, Jose Manuel Benitez Sanchez
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Jun 14 12:21:46 bahia rpc.nfsd: nfssvc: Function not implemented
>>
>> Jose, you did not compile the NFS server kernel code! Reconfigure your
>> kernel, and say yes to be prompted for new, experimental and incomplete
>> code. Then the NFS server configuration option will be available to you.
> That's true, but I don't intend to use the kernel NFS server, but an
>external NFS server as installed by the nfs-utils package. It did work
>with the kernel bundled together with the distribution (2.2.14-5).
>That's the way I'd like it working with the new kernel.
>
nfs-utils is not an NFS server -- it's simply the tools that work with
knfsd. Kaz is correct -- you need to enable kernel NFS server support.
-Tom
--
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ICQ #60745924 \ "Any sane computer will tell you how it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ works if you ask it the proper questions"
Shoreline, Washington USA \___________________________________________
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From: DoItAgain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: img
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:30:04 GMT
Hi all, I downloaded yellowdog linux as an .img file and now need to know
how to burn it to CD.
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Kevin Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linx.setup
Subject: Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO 90 in Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:34:02 GMT
I am trying to use an ISA Ensoniq Soundscape VIVO 90 in RedHat Linux
6.2. I used sndconfig, and it found it right away as a soundscape VIVO,
but when I try to play mp3s with xmms, it gives me the same error it did
before I used sndconfig to add it. It put a bunch of entries in
/etc/conf.modules, and I was wondering if some of these irqs or ios
might be wrong? Does anyone know of a way to get the ports this thing
is using? I have only linux on the machine so i can't check in
windows. I also have a fairly old bios(its a p166 gateway) so i can't
find it there.
If someone could tell me how to detect the setup or if there's something
else I'm doing wrong here I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks,
Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Colin R. Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:04:31 -0400
Mike wrote:
> "David Steuber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > [insane lunacy about companies murdering competitors snipped]
> >
> > Anyway, there is still the appellate process to go through. While all
> > that is going on, Microsoft has a chance to organize affairs so that a
> > break up won't hurt Bill Gates.
> >
> > Carnegie kept getting richer after Standard Oil was broken up.
>
> No reason why he shouldn't have. Carnegie had invested in oil, but sold his
> interests in the 1860's, before Standard Oil became a force in the industry.
> Carnegie's major wealth came from steel. He sold his interest to J.P. Morgan
> in 1901 for $480 million, making him the world's richest man.
Wasn't Rockefeller richer than that? He was the first billionaire (in US
dollars, anyway).
Colin Day
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From: Neo Brave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Using X without mouse
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:57:20 GMT
Hi all,
I'm about to get one of those laptop thingies and I was wondering
how feasible it is to use X without the mouse. All I really want
to do is have access to an xterm and an editor. The editor is
an X only editor and can't be used in console mode.
Does anybody have experience in this?
Can window managers be configured to behave intelligently without
mouse input? I'm currently using a highly configured fvwm95 (ie
remove the task bar etc).
Thanks in advance
--
Neo Brave
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Before you buy.
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From: Edward Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Using X without mouse
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:38:05 -0700
I am using fvwm95 and sometimes with the wrong mouse (PS/2 v. Serial).
I can't change the mouse type, since I am running it off a cd. As long
as you have at lease one xterm upon startup, you can start additional
xterms from it and background them (&). You can Alt-Tab between xterms
as well.
Neo Brave wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm about to get one of those laptop thingies and I was wondering
> how feasible it is to use X without the mouse. All I really want
> to do is have access to an xterm and an editor. The editor is
> an X only editor and can't be used in console mode.
>
> Does anybody have experience in this?
>
> Can window managers be configured to behave intelligently without
> mouse input? I'm currently using a highly configured fvwm95 (ie
> remove the task bar etc).
>
> Thanks in advance
> --
> Neo Brave
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "Schmerm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UMSDOS problems
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:37:33 GMT
I have one HD with one FAT32 partition which has Win98 and the ZipSlack
version of SlackWare. When using the kernel image that came with zipslack,
if boots using umsdos perfectly. Then I downloaded and compiled the
2.3.99-pre9 experimental kernel, and enabled all the relevant filesystem
kernel options (saying Y not Module to UMSDOS and msdos fs and FAT support).
When I try to boot using loadlin like I did with the previous kernel:
C:\LINUX> LOADLIN bzimage root=/dev/hde1 rw
... I get something like this near the end of the kernel messages:
VFS mounted root /dev/hde1 (msdos filesystem)
whereas the previous kernel said "(umsdos filesystem fast msdos)" and had
the umsdos initialization messages right above that line
then at the very end it says it can't find the INIT and craps out with
kernel panic.
now, this leaves me asking, what extra configuration do i need besides
enabling UMSDOS in the kernel to get it to work?
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From: DarkStar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape & Other Web Browsers
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:45:26 GMT
Netscape either causes my system to hang or completely kills the X
server. I need to know of any other web browsers that are available.
So, are there any?
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From: David Burris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Squid transparent proxy/authentication
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:54:31 -0500
Is it possible to set Squid up as a transparent proxy AND to
authenticate users using the external authentication programs (i.e.
ncsa_auth). I've successfully set Squid/Linux up to do transparent
proxying and I've gotten the password authentication to work, but they
don't seem to work together.
What are alternatives if transparent proxy and password authentication
cannot be used together?
Configuration:
Squid v. 2.3.STABLE1
RedHat 6.1
Thanks in advance,
Dave Burris
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux floating point/IEEE Std.745-1985 compliancy
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:12:21 -0500
Niek Bergboer wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> As I'm planning to use my system for large numerical calculation jobs, I am
> a bit worried by rumours that Linux does not
> completely conform to the IEEE-745 Standard for Binary Floating Point
> Arithmetic (IEEE Std. 745-1985). This means that when doing calculations
> with 80-bit floats,
> I may lose significant precision.
Try the package mpfun or mpfun++:
mpfun++ A C++ implementation of MPFUN. The package
performs multi-precision floating point
arithmetic with arbitrary precision level. It
takes advantage of C++ operator overloading and
argument matching facility to provide a smooth
transition from primitive arithmetic types.
Go to http://www.google.com/linux and do a search on mpfun.
Craig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Squid transparent proxy/authentication
Date: 19 Jun 2000 02:35:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
David Burris ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Is it possible to set Squid up as a transparent proxy AND to
> authenticate users using the external authentication programs (i.e.
> ncsa_auth). I've successfully set Squid/Linux up to do transparent
> proxying and I've gotten the password authentication to work, but they
> don't seem to work together.
>
> What are alternatives if transparent proxy and password authentication
> cannot be used together?
It is possible. I have seen this question come up a number of times on the
Squid maillist. You might want to try and search the archive of this list
to see what needs to be done. Also check out Squid's FAQ at
www.squid-cache.org as well!
- Justin
--
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_/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ = I use SlackWare!! =
_/ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ = http://justinw.net =
_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ =--- Jesus Is Lord ---=
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how to share /usr directory?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 02:30:28 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland) wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:33:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In order to save space, I would like to let multiple networked
> >computers share a single copy of /usr directory using NFS. However,
> >the RedHat installation program seems to insist that each computer
> >must have its own /usr directory in the local hard disk. Is there
> >any way to do it?
>
> Yes. Create a /usr directory on the local hard disc and mount the /usr
> from the server onto it.
>
> Mounts need mount points; where else were you going to put it?
So, at which point during the installation should I mount it? Should
I allow the installation program to really copy the files to there?
As there should really be no need to copy the files to there again,
can I skip this step somehow?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rez)
Subject: consol like printer?
Date: 19 Jun 2000 02:48:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I hit:
<ctrl>+v <right alt>+e <CR>
and consol is on secondary font (?). I hit:
<ctrl>+v <right alt>+f <CR>
and consol go back.. it's all right now.
Why? TIA
P.S. excuse my English
--
Ci sentiamo | Remigio Zedda
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ciao Remigio | kernel 2.2.13 su Slack 7.0
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From: "Zachary M. Morvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple NICs
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:38:08 -0400
I am using three nics for three networks. (Fairly large network at home)
One is for my DSL connection and I will be using IPCHAINS for filtering...I
hope.
Anyone have a preference of IPFILTER over IPCAHINS? Why? Vice versa? Why?
One is for an internal network that I would like to access the internet, but
not all the time. I will be performing a "down" and "up" on this network
card when I need this network to access the internet. Unless someone knows
of a better idea.
The other is for my systems that I would like to always have connected to
the internet.
I haven't had much time to work on this since my last post because of a
project I'm involved in, but I should get more time at it this evening. I
would be happy to see just two NICs work and I am very close to just putting
in different vendors for each network card, but what kind of IT pro would I
be if I did that?? That is like cheating to me. Nah, I'll be sticking this
one out until it works. I'm documenting all along the way so that I can see
my shortcoming and not duplicate it.
What distribution are you building your box with? (Curiousity)
-Zak
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news:42535.3418$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am curious on what you are using 3 NICs for.
>
> I am planning on doing Masquing as well when I finally get my box up and
> running with 2 NICs.
>
> One into my cable modem, the other into my hub's uplink port.
>
> What is your third going to be used for?
>
> --
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> "Zachary M. Morvik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:394b10d5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Sorry for the x-post
> >
> > I am just not having any luck with multi-homed systems.
> >
> > I have a system that has three NE2000(ne) ISA network cards in it. Each
> > with their own IO and IRQ. These cards all work. I originally
installed
> > FreeBSD and had to re-compile the kernel so that these cards would work
> and
> > just to try something new, I have installed RH, Caldera, Turbo,
Slackware,
> > and now Debian linux.
> >
> > I have not gotten all three of these cards to work in any distribution
of
> > linux that I have installed. That said, I also have not re-compiled the
> > kernel because I am told I do not need to if I just load the modules and
> > then config.
> >
> > One card works and is configured now. My intention is to get all three
of
> > these NICs working and then use IP Masquerade to re-map ports for my DSL
> > line. Does anyone have a quick outline of what direction I should head
in
> > to get these NICs installed? Once they are in, the services part is
easy.
> > What are the files in the Debian distribution that will allow me to
> > configure the IO, IRQ, etc. for the other two network cards? Do I have
to
> > re-compile the kernel?? I know, for optimum performance, I do, but I
> would
> > just like to work off of modules for now.
> >
> > Thanks for any advice,
> > Zak
> >
> >
>
>
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From: Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape backup: tar versus dump
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 23:04:56 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> [Snipped previous discussion of dump vs tar for linux]
>
> One problem I noticed it that Linux dump ONLY dumps complete filesystems, even
> though the man page says it dumps filesystems and directories!
>
[snip]
That's funny. The dump that I use which ships with RedHat 6.2 seems to
dump just what I told it to. So if you just want to dump /home/a_user
you can do that. I did notice, however, when I did a subsequent compare
with "restore -C" that restore complained about other items in the file
system being missing from the tape. An annoyance, but liveable...
--
Mark Bratcher
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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