Linux-Misc Digest #776, Volume #23                Tue, 7 Mar 00 12:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: 135GB too big for fdisk? (Edgar)
  Advice needed on JSP and servlets on Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Advice needed on JSP and servlets on Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  floppy problem (root)
  floppy problem (root)
  Re: Tyan S1837UANG Thunderbolt ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Salary? (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: apache question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  lost interrupt (Duane Evenson)
  Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (I R A Darth Aggie)
  Re: You have new mail (Adrian Davey)
  host system type (Chrys)
  Re: pine 4.10 with pop servers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: You have new mail (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: APC back ups on a linux box (thomas park)
  xset s off & RedHat 6.1 (daedalus)
  Re: Salary? (R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ))
  Joysticks? (David Topper)
  Re: XFree86-xfs very slow (Hal Burgiss)
  Linux mailservers (Andy)
  Re: Salary? (Eric LEMAITRE)

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From: Edgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 135GB too big for fdisk?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:30:10 GMT


Reusser Lukas wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I have a 135GB RAID-Array on a Mylex DAC960PD-3.
> When I start "fdisk /dev/rd/c0d2" and create a new partition, fdisk only
> see 3.6GB!
> 
> What is the problem?
> 
> My system:
> Dual Celeron 433MHz
> 256MB PC100 RAM
> Mylex DAC960PD-3 (Firmware 3.51)
> Adaptec 2940UW
> RedHat 6.1 (i386)
> 
> Thanx
> 
> Luke
> 
 You might try Partition Magic 5.0 from Powerquest.
 I think that fdisk has a size limitation,but I'm 
 not sure if Partition magic will work on a raid 
 setup.There should be faqs at powerquest's site
 and if not try calling them.
    
 Edgar

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps,sg.linux
Subject: Advice needed on JSP and servlets on Linux
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:53:26 +0800

Hi folks,

Any advise for a Linux newbie who is intending to use JSP for his thesis
work? I'm trying to write an indexing and retrieval web application that
can allow users to submit by their browser text files for index and
search for documents. Thinking of using JSP or servlets with Apache on
Linux. Can recommend a good IDE that allows me to work with servlets ? I
have downloaded JServ but haven't install it yet. I have also tried
JBuilder foundation for Linux and found it really crippled in terms of
features (versus the Windows version my company is using).

Any pointers, suggestions and advise would be greatly appreciated.
Please remove tag on email address to correspond.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Damon



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps,sg.linux
Subject: Advice needed on JSP and servlets on Linux
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 23:53:26 +0800

Hi folks,

Any advise for a Linux newbie who is intending to use JSP for his thesis
work? I'm trying to write an indexing and retrieval web application that
can allow users to submit by their browser text files for index and
search for documents. Thinking of using JSP or servlets with Apache on
Linux. Can recommend a good IDE that allows me to work with servlets ? I
have downloaded JServ but haven't install it yet. I have also tried
JBuilder foundation for Linux and found it really crippled in terms of
features (versus the Windows version my company is using).

Any pointers, suggestions and advise would be greatly appreciated.
Please remove tag on email address to correspond.

Thanks in advance.

Regards
Damon



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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: floppy problem
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:56:00 +0100

I have umounted /floppy correctly, inserted a new disk into the drive
and mounted /floppy again. Now it shows the content of the previous
disk! It seems to be cached and it did not recognize the disk change...

Is there a way to flush the diskcache for the floppy?

I am using SuSE 6.3

The entry in my /etc/fstab :

/dev/fd0        /floppy vfat    noauto,user 0 0


Thanks in advance,
Peter

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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: floppy problem
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:56:44 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have umounted /floppy correctly, inserted a new disk into the drive
and mounted /floppy again. Now it shows the content of the previous
disk! It seems to be cached and it did not recognize the disk change...

Is there a way to flush the diskcache for the floppy?

I am using SuSE 6.3

The entry in my /etc/fstab :

/dev/fd0        /floppy vfat    noauto,user 0 0


Thanks in advance,
Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tyan S1837UANG Thunderbolt
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:18:19 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Has anyone tried to implement a Linux server class machine on this
> motherboard?
> Im wondering about the on-board Dual processor, on-board dual LVD-SCSI,
> and on-board ethernet.
> I have never tried to use any of these features previously. Are the
> current Linux distributions capable of handling and configuring these
> on-bard devices and the multiple processors?
> Thanks for any feedback.

     I can't speak for the 1837 specifically, but the 1836 works fine, all
three of the functions you mention are supported by RedHat 5.2 & 6.1 (the
distro's I've installed on my 1836-based machine).  If it's the standard
1837 (with the Adaptec SCSI subsystem), it should work just fine.  The
1837-L, with the LSI 53C896 SCSI subsystem, is a question mark to me, but
that's only because I haven't looked into that SCSI system, not having one
around.

                        Scott


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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:57:12 -0500

Matthias Warkus wrote:

<snip>

> --
> Abdeckstiftbenutzer!
> ABS-Bremser!
> Achselhaarschneider!
> Airbagnachr�ster!

Ausschnitt aus Wiglaf Drostes liste ekliger Woerter? :))

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: apache question
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:49:50 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  rezuan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi there !
>
> i've just installed red hat 6.0 on my pcand configure it to be
networked.
> i know that i got apache running on it coz' if i go to other pc on the
> network and i entered my pc's ip address it will display apache's web
page
> saying that i have succesfully installed the apache and i can change
the
> page ( but i don't know how-i don't even know hw to begin).  my
questions
> are
>
> how do i design my own web page so that it can be displayed on apache
and
> what are commands or scripts used to put the webpage running on the
apache?
> (is there any software that i can used to design a web page (eg. in
windows
> we can use ms front page to design a web page right ?)) can i rename
my web
> page.
>
> thank you
>
> reah\gards
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
>
Hi,

Apache can serve your frontpage made html files as well. Just put them
in the documentroot of apache. In httpd.conf you can see how apache is
configured, so the directorypath for the documentroot is also defined
in there. I can't tell you where httpd.conf on your system is, but you
can do a "locate httpd.conf" to find out. If locate says it has no
database, just run updatedb first.

If you're looking for html edittors under linux, you could take a look
at netscape composer (comes with communicator), coffeecup and bluefish.
You can look them up at www.freshmeat.net.

gr,

erik


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Before you buy.

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From: Duane Evenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: lost interrupt
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 08:48:34 -0700

I get
hdc: lost interrupt
ide1(?): unexpected interrupt, status=0x58, count=625

when I do large accesses to my hard drives (ie tar, grep, etc). I get
this error even when all my partitions on hdc are unmounted.
Has anyone else had this problem? What caused it with you and what was
the fix?
I have RH6.1, Cyrix 586, hdc=1G Seagate.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Darth Aggie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: 7 Mar 2000 15:57:57 GMT
Reply-To: no-courtesy-copies-please

On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:07:36 GMT,
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, in
<YW8x4.4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
+       [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I R A Darth Aggie) writes:
+ > 
+ > Still, why on earth do you want to have multiple instances of your
+ > X server running? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH?
+ 
+ I'm not the original poster, but there ARE legitimate reasons to want to
+ do this.

Why, yes, there are. But you're missing the point.

Instead of saying:

        I want to do Y.

the question should be phrased:

        I want to accomplish X. I think I can do this using Y.

Perhaps Y *is* the correct way of doing things. Perhaps X has nothing
to do with Y. *shrugs*

If you want good answers, you need to ask good questions.

James
-- 
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
The Bill of Rights is paid in Responsibilities - Jean McGuire
To cure your perl CGI problems, please look at:
<url:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/doc/FAQs/cgi/idiots-guide.html>

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From: Adrian Davey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You have new mail
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:19:59 +0000

Aulne wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>   All right, when I log on (as root) on my Linux box that is connected to our
> local network I immediately get the msg "You have new mail".  If I switched
> to Windows and get out Outlook I notice I indeed got new mail from the Win NT
> server.  How can I read this mail from the bash shell?
> 
> Alain
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Try typing mail
works for me.
number to view message , q to quit.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<pointless_html_tag>
linux 2.2.13(ish) on cpu #0, up time -a lot-
av load: user -a bit, sys -a bit more
</pointless_html_tag>

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From: Chrys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: host system type
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:24:39 +0100

Hello!

When I want to install programs (applications), when I write
"./configure"
it doesn't work : I have a message error saying :
"checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you
must specify one"

What is the problem ??? how can I resolve it ?

THX !

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: pine 4.10 with pop servers
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:15:18 -0500

Hello,

> 
> So you can configure pine to use pop3 or IMAP to get at your mail, 
> but the usual thing to do is to use fetchmail, which downloads the mail 
> from your ISP with the POP3 protocol, and then uses something like sendmail 
> to distribute the mail to your local mailbox.
> 

I had the same problem (get email from a POP3) and now I use fetchmail. It works
but... for each mail retrieved by fetchmail I got an error message in
the root mailbox, which I don't understand. i didn't know that sendmail
is doing somthing here (*send*mail). what should I do to avoid these error
messages ? Is there a tool like fetchmailconf to configure sendmail
quickly for this simple purpose ?

- Sacha

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: You have new mail
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:27:27 GMT

On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:26:59 GMT, Aulne wrote:

>   All right, when I log on (as root) on my Linux box that is connected to our
> local network I immediately get the msg "You have new mail".  If I switched
> to Windows and get out Outlook I notice I indeed got new mail from the Win NT
> server.  How can I read this mail from the bash shell?

mail, mutt, pine, elm - any console based mail reader. I prefer mutt
myself.

HTH,
Thomas
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From: thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: APC back ups on a linux box
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:25:40 -0500

"Modem control" refers to a set of signals sent across the interface
cable.  They signal the readiness of the computer and attached devices
to send/recieve serial communications.  The APC cables are *not* simple
9-pin serial cables, though, so you'll have to make sure you're using
the correct cable in order for everything to work.  You can get the APC
part number for your cable by sending your UPS's S/N to APC's customer
support.

If you have the right cable, the next thing to do is make sure the
serial port is enabled in your system's BIOS.  Some manufacturers
disable one or more of the serial ports by default (although I haven't
seen this on a motherboard in several years).

HTH,
thomas


"Oli M." wrote:
> 
> hi there,
> 
> I need some help with my back-ups from APC. I tried to get a connection
> between the ups and a Linux box, unfortunately without success. I downloaded
> powerchute from the apc homepage and installed it but powerchute doesn't
> detect the back-ups during the installation process...instead it says 'port
> must be configured for modem control in order to work with a simple
> signaling ups'.
> So could anyone help me an give a hint how to configure my serial port for
> modem control....or any other hint on how to bring up a connection....?
> 
> thanks in advance!
> 
> Oliver

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From: daedalus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: xset s off & RedHat 6.1
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 10:45:34 -0600

Greetings all,

I know I can turn off the screen blanking in X windows using
"xset s off". My question is where do I put that command in a
standard RH 6.1 (with Gnome) install so that it is executed
every time Xwindows is started.  I've found a couple of places
I can add it that work for me, but I'd like to know the "correct"
place to put it so will be the default for all users regardless
of their method of starting X and without messing up the standard
RH/Gnome functionality.

TIA
-Bill

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From: R.E.Ballard ( Rex Ballard ) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:43:55 GMT

In article <89sunr$f9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sorry if this is OT for these forums, but I really don't know where
> to post a question like this...  I find myself in the somewhat
> embarassing position of stepping into a job as a Linux administrator
> and having no idea of how much I should be asking for, in terms of
> salary.  Vital stats:

> Experience: 4.5 years running production Linux
> and UnixWare servers for
> my college, while a student.  Paid positions,
> but still student work.

At this point, do you have a degree?  In what field.
Clearly you have experience in UNIX system administration.
What statistics do you have?  Did you fix problems quickly?
Average mean time to repair?  Mean time between failures?

> About a year working for a pre-launch Internet
> start-up as an admin, and
> working as a PC Tech for a retail chain.
> I make about $10/hr at all of my jobs.

Working for peanuts for a year or so is a good way to get some
valuable experience.  In 1980, I spent a year writing educational
software and teaching computer classes (using my software).  At
the end of the year I went from $5/hour to $20K/year.  I then took
the time to teach myself UNIX and went from $20K to $30K in Rochester
New York.  As demand for my skills increased so did my salary.

If you can maintain the practice of upgrading your skills and
keep adding new skills, you can easily achieve increases of 20%/year
on average until reach the point where non-cash compensation (stock
options, stock payments, and "lifestyle" compensation such as travel.

If you merely "do your job", you typically only get 4-5% increases.

> The job:  Southern California; running ~20 production and development
> servers for a high-profile operation; Linux x86 and Solaris SPARC
> platforms.  It's a well-established multinational corporation
> operating well in the black.

Southern California is very hungry for UNIX people.  You need to know
the type of cash-flow this company has, and what your impact on that
cash-flow would be.  If you are a junior member of a large
administration team, you probably wont get as much as you get if
you are the primary person accountable for keeping the systems running
when the systems are generating $1000/minute or better.

> I'll be going into this job straight out of school,
> and if it works out (fingers crossed!) I'll likely be
> staying for a while; what they do is
> what I'm all about, and it looks like a perfect match
> for me.  BUT...

The typical rate for UNIX administrators with a college degree
and 1 year of experience is around $30K-$40K, depending on where
you live.

> I don't want to short-change myself going in.  In my (limited!)
> experience, you stand a much better chance of getting what's
> fair if you demand it at the onset; if you realize a year into
> the job that you're not making the market's wage, it's typically
> a lot more difficult to get a substantial raise, no?

Not necessarily.  Often, high performers quickly get promotions,
stock options, and bonuses that can be worth several times their
salary.  By the end of my second year in Rochester, I'd produced
some impressive results.  The company offered me options on 2000
shares of the company stock.  Later they offered the ability to
convert to Non Qualified opitons at a much lower price.  When the
company was sold, these options were worth almost $25,000 or nearly
60% of my salary at that time.

It's a good idea to get familiar with business and investing.  There
are some powerful ways to get some huge leverage.  If you start with
a successful and growing concern that is either publicly held or
pre-IPO, you can do very nicely if you stick around.


> So...  Any suggestions as to salary?
> I would greatly appreciate hearing
> from those who might have some insight into this.

Express your concerns.  Let them know that you are open to a
contingincy plan that would kick-in if you met certian specific
measurable results.  Also give them the ability to give you
additional bonuses and salaries for unspecified contributions.

It's also a good idea to build your network while you are working.
Collect business cards of all vendors, coworkers, and customers as
appropriate.  Don't be afraid to ask those people you have helped out
to put in a good word.  These should be fed back to your manager
and you should praise your manager to his manager.  It's politics,
but only 30% of most IT solutions are technical - the hardest part
is getting the support of all the other parties.

Offer to provide services that increase the company's visibility.
Speaking at conferences, submitting articles, and working as an
advisor to members of the press can be a very good way to increase
your value.

If you can establish yourself as a "star performer", your company
will do whatever it takes to keep you around.  If you make your boss
look good, make your organization look good, and make your company
look good, they will want to make you look good.

A "star performer" can easily get offers of six figure incomes from
multiple organizations.  Your employer knows this.  Hopefully, they
will see that you are worth more to them as one of their employees
than as someone working for a competitor, a supplier, or a customer.

In some cases, when finances and policies make it impossible to
provide the proper compensation package, they will literally "push
you out the door".  I have had this happen a few times.  The employer
helped me find positions with suppliers or customers.  Today, I'm
grateful they did this.  In one case, I'd reached a position where
I couldn't be promoted within the group, but I was clearly providing
the quality of service that merited a promotion.  They gave me
a generous reccomendation, and my next position was for a 30% increase
with an upward mobility path.

>  Now that Linux has
> finally started to pay off (been using
> it since SLS was "it" and never
> thought I'd see this level of penetration!)
> I find I don't know how much
> my Linux abilities should be compensated.

It will be important to add Solaris and UNIX administration
to your skill set.  You want to be able to offer the ability
to transition from low-end product to a large-capacity system
like an E-10K or an SP/2.

The important thing is that - unlike your Microsoft-only trained
classmates - you are 95% of the way there.  In fact, you can do
more to solve Linux problems that your Solaris gurus can do to solve
Solaris problems.

> Thanks!
>
> - Robert Nichols
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>

--
Rex Ballard - Open Source Advocate, Internet
I/T Architect, MIS Director
http://www.open4success.com
Linux - 30 million satisfied users
and growing at over 1%/week!


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From: David Topper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Joysticks?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 11:46:08 -0500

Hi folks,

I'm searching for some info on how to read X/Y (and potentially other)
joystick data.  Can't seem to find anything good.  I notice that my
2.2.13 kernel has joystick support as a module.

Email responses preferred.

Thanks,

Dave Topper
--
Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: XFree86-xfs very slow
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 16:57:59 GMT

On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:59:13 +0000, Chris Lowth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Hal Burgiss wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:53:45 +0000, Chris Lowth
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I have a redhat 6.0 box - its an i486/50dx machine - nothing flash.
>> >Running XFree86 and netscape.
>> >
>> >I dont expect miracles, but I have found there is a severe speed
>> >problem with XFS. It manifests itself as a 2 minute delay in the
>> >start=up of netscape.
>> >
>> >Even "xbanner" takes 90 seconds to run.
>> >
>> >Using "ps -A x" I have noted that all the time delay is being mopped up
>> >in "user land" loops in the xfs server.
>> >
>> >I have even re-installed redhat 5.2, 6.0, 6.1 and caldera 1.3 - ALL
>> >have the same problem.
>> >
>> >Am I missing something here - is this a bug, or do I really have to
>> >live with the auful though that Windows is better than linux on this
>> >box - I think I really couldnt handle that!
>> 
>> Very strange. I have a hard time thinking what xfs would be doing to
>> cause this. But, you might try hardwiring all your Fontpaths into
>> /etc/X11/XF86Config, kill xfs, restart X and see if it is xfs or
>> maybe something else that xfs is interacting with. It might be
>> something wonky with your networking as all of these are using Unix
>> Domain Sockets. Why would xbanner need xfs (just thinking out loud)?
>
>Hal - Thanks for the input. I tried your suggestion - and it makes no
>difference to the time taken to do things - but now it is the X server
>that clocks up vast amounts of cpu time rather than XFS. I wonder
>whether it's something in a lower level libary that both of these ways
>of doing things use.
>
>Has anyone else had this problem - or conversly: has any one got some
>success stories about netscape on a 486?

Maybe your config is just short on horsepower. Are you using Gnome or
KDE? Try it without those. Also, E is a resource hog. Try a simple, one
color background image without any fancy themes, and a lightweigh
windowmanager like Windowmaker or fvwm. Try 16 and 8bpp. Try putting
your 'unscaled' fonts first in your Fontpath, if they are not already.
The scaled ones use more CPU. Try Navigator only, no Communicator. Uses
a lot less memory, and is a bit faster, and more stable IMO. Use lynx or
w3m when you can for browsing. Make sure all your RAM is recognized and
SWAP is in use.  Check XFree86.org for any tips/gotchas on tweaking your
graphics card.

-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy)
Subject: Linux mailservers
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:02:40 GMT

Hello all,
I'm looking into setting up a mailserver on a RedHat 6.1 box and there
are numerous offerings.  Has anyone any real-life experiences of any
of these?

If anyone can recommend (or dissuade!) me from a particular product
I'd be very grateful.  The system needs to be able to handle 1,000+
accounts and provide the usual stuff;
- mailboxes (delivery addresses)
- forwarding
- vacation etc. notice
- easy to maintain (and to install as well, ideally!)
- support web and POP3 clients as a minimum

I would prefer an Open Source solution but will certainly also
consider commercial offerings.  Scalability, ease of administration
and robustness are my primary concerns.

Apologies if this isn't the correct newsgroup - I couldn't find any
generic linux-mail type groups :-)

Any advice, comments, experiences and thoughts gratefully received!

Cheers,
   Andy.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

"You don't buy beer, you only rent it."

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From: Eric LEMAITRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 17:53:56 +0100

"Michael C. Vergallen" a �crit :

> In Belgium the total Tax burdon is at 55 % on incomes. 21 % on goods
> purchased. Now they also want to tax capital gains at 20 - 30 %. Life is
> realy expensive. If you don't inherit or are corrupt you have no chance of
> getting ahead ... Now they also want to tax capital you won't even be able
> to get ahead by inheriting... My 110 square meter flat is valued at 75000
> Euro. So this makes property value aprox 700 Euro a square meter in Gent
> witch is not a expensive city compared to Brussels.

Hi Michael !

So we are neighbours no only by geography in excessive governmental tax burden
too. Sob.
In France this is strictly the same, sadly.
When do you flee from Belgium for USA :-)) ?

Bye !

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Eric LEMAITRE
Ing�nieur CNAM (CNAM Computer Engineer, MSD)
Ing�nieur et Formateur certifi� Linux Red-Hat (RHCE & RHCX Certified)
Responsable de formation pour les fili�res Internet et Linux (Head of
Internet/Linux Education Department)



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