Linux-Misc Digest #776, Volume #24               Sun, 11 Jun 00 11:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Printing PS & PDF (ray)
  Re: Startup Fortunes (Doc Shipley)
  Re: KPPP problem (Rick)
  Apache 1.3.12 on RH6.2 (Terence PIRART)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (Rick)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (Rick)
  Re: Bash shell problem ("Philip Ng")
  Handling Special Characters ("Kevin Carpenter")
  SCCS ("pluto")
  Re: Duplicate a diskette of unknown format exactly (Juergen Sauer)
  Re: SCCS (Christopher Browne)
  /tmp (Ian Mortimer)
  Re: /tmp (Martin Herrman)
  Does Linux use multi processors ("jmt")
  Re: SCCS ("pluto")
  Re: Does Linux use multi processors (Martin Herrman)
  Connecting Caldera 2.4 to a Win98 server (Scott)
  Help with Slackware 7, /etc/printcap, filters, and TCP/IP Printing 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  editor search (Steve Dearth)
  more GNOME and Linux questions ("Kent A. Signorini")
  Re: Bash shell problem ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Startup Fortunes ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Handling Special Characters (Dances With Crows)
  Re: kernel identification? What is "what" in Linux? (Paul Kimoto)
  Reading CD-RW's (Koen Van Baelen)
  Re: vote on MS split-up (Robert Heller)

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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing PS & PDF
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:15:09 GMT

Robert Heller wrote:

>   BuDMaN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   In a message on Sat, 10 Jun 2000 17:12:39 -0300 (BRT), wrote :
>
> B> How can I print a Postscript or a PDF file in a Epson printer? I try to
> B> print it using gv but it prints a lot of text commands instead of the real
> B> document. What should I do?
>
> You should use printtool (if you are using RedHat).  Is this a color
> Epson? Select the 'uniprint' driver and then select the sub-driver that
> matches your printer.  If this is set up  properly, you should be able
> to print PostScript files directly with lpr:
>
> % lpr x.ps
>
> PDF files need to be converted to ps:
>
> % pdf2ps x.pdf x.ps
>
> And then can be printed:
>
> % lpr x.ps
>
> B>
> B> --
> B>
> B> Ginger snap.
> B>
> B>
> B>
> B>  Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> B>  Before you buy.
> B>
>
>
> --
>                                      \/
> Robert Heller                        ||InterNet:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller  ||            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.deepsoft.com              /\FidoNet:    1:321/153

    Exactly, further, I found a LOT of useful stuff I implemented for my Epson
here:
http://dutera.et.tudelft.nl/~haver/linux/epson.html
I have the 740, and it does better work under Linux than it does with the
factory drivers.

--
Ray R. Jones
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Ray's Linux gordo.penguinpowered.com 2.3.99-pre9




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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Startup Fortunes
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:17:03 GMT

Jeff Craig wrote:
> 
> Okay, this is really kind of not important, but I am pretty sure I saw
> how to set up linux to run the fortune program everytime a user logs on,
> supplying them with a random quip, piece of knowledge, whatever.  I
> can't remember how to do it, and I was hoping someone else would be able
> to tell me.  I haven't been able to find it, and I've tried.
> 

if [ -x /usr/bin/fortune ] ; then
    echo
    /usr/bin/fortune
    echo
fi

in ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc depending on your distribution. In SuSE it's
.profile
YMMV

-- 
 Doc Shipley
   Network Stuff
      Austin, Earth

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:35:17 -0400

kamborg wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 01:47:18 -0400, Rick <theobvious@theobvious> wrote:
> >The logs all say PPPD started by user 500 Rick ....
> >and then it times out.
> >
> 
> I think it was on Mandrakeuser.org I read that kppp uses a 'nonstandard'
> means of connecting, which was one reason I didn't rely on it.  But I
> was assuming it calls the 'chat' program.  Look in /etc/ppp/options,
> there must be a line that says CONNECT "  ", with the command line inside
> the quotes.  pppd must call something, since it can't do it by itself.
> On my options file it has CONNECT "usr/sbin/chat -vf script" where
> script is the name of the chat-script that tells how to initialize the
> modem & dial, how to talk nice to the ISP, how to know if he tells
> you to bug off, etc.
> 


> On the  /var/log/messages or the TTY00 screen, after
> ....pppd[#]: pppd started by ....
> the next line begins a detailed log of the negotiation between
> chat & server,  ....chat[#]: Dialing.... etc. so if something
> stops the program from connecting, you'll get some message about it.
> But your chat, or whatever is used to dial, seems not to start at all.
> 
> *** See what is in that CONNECT line in /etc/ppp/options. ****
> 
> PLEASE NOTE.  Those man pages prob'ly seem pretty awful, I should

the kpp directions saya that to be sure there are no conflicting entries
in the file, /etc/ppp/options can be blank. In mosty distro based on Red
Hat, there is a single word in the file... lock. The kpp directions say
to remove that, which I have done on both my laptop (clone) and this
machine (Mac clone). One the laptop, noth usernet/netcfg configure and
run ppp fine. On the desktop, onlu usernet/netcg works.

-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: Terence PIRART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache 1.3.12 on RH6.2
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:30:03 GMT

I install apache on my RH6.2 server and I start the deamon.
When I try to access my site typing 'www.mysite.com' I get an 404 error 
but if I type 'www.mysite.com/index.html' I get the page in my browser.

Maybe there is something wrong in my httpd.conf file, but I can't find 
what.

Any suggestion would be appreciated

Terence

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:38:07 -0400

David Steuber wrote:
> 
> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> ' History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
> ' the market is more innovative.
> 
> "Yeah?  Well history is about to change."
>         Marty McFly, "Back To The Future" 1985
> 
> Linux is within a couple years of being a major threat to Microsoft
> where it hurts the most:  on the desktop.
> 
> Look at KDE2.  It is coming along very nicely.
> 
> Look at Gnome.  They have a mission of being better than KDE.
> 
> KDE has the mission of being the BEST desktop, period.  Two free
> desktop environments of high quality competing on merit.  Best of all,
> you can use either of them or some other desktop and window manager
> and still run your favorite Linux applications.  Not only that, they
> compile and run on *BSD.
> 
> The compiler is getting better.  Friendlier development tools are
> getting better.  Office type software ( KOffice, StarOffice,
> AplixWare) is getting better.
> 
> The application barrier to entry is ready to fall.  The hardware
> barrier will be next.
> 
> Sure, Microsoft will be around for a long, long time.  But their star
> is already fading.  See how many DSL providers support Windows 2000.
> Java is not dead yet and shows signs of rising back up.
> 
> I've heard that Apple is basing its next major OS on BSD.  Why they
> didn't go with NextStep is beyond me.  But my guess is that Apple will
> be able to finance a real OS from their iMac sales.  It will be a Un*x
> under the skin.  That skin will look like MacOS in terms of look and
> feel.  Probably with some enhancements.  If Apple does the smart thing
> and supports GCC and contributes to it so that free software can be
> compiled and run on the Mac, then Apple will start to thrive again.
> 
> In five years, Microsoft won't be the company they were five years
> ago.  I don't know where Apple will be.  They actually have to produce
> their new OS.
> 

All of this progress is possible at the moment because M$ has stopped a
lot of it's backroom bullying.... and only becasue of the harsh and
intense spotlight it finds itself in. If there were no government
action... things would a lot differnet today.

-- 
Rick
To reply by email remove the obvious from my address.

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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:40:40 -0400

"David .." wrote:
> 
> Rick wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >
> > History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
> > the market is more innovative.
> >
> 
> It won't be long before M$ will start to realize that they are not the
> only OS any longer if they don't already that is.
> 

... only becasue the governemnt was able to M$ into court, and the
resulting very real legal threat to M$'s continued existence .

> Look at all the system makers that are shipping Linux pre-installed.

... only becasue the governemnt was able to M$ into court, and the
resulting very real legal threat to M$'s continued existence.

> Since M$ has lost control of these suppliers as well as Intel and other
> component makers that are becoming friendly towards Linux. All of this
> has to be a major threat in the eyes of M$ though they may never admit
> it.
> 

... only becasue the governemnt was able to M$ into court, and the
resulting very real legal threat to M$'s continued existence.


> M$ is on the loosing end no matter how you look at it. M$ may not notice
> it for a while due to their shear monopoly size but all of this
> open-ness towards Linux will have an impact on them.
> 

... only becasue the governemnt was able to M$ into court, and the
resulting very real legal threat to M$'s continued existence.



> --
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> ID # 123538

-- 
Rick
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From: "Philip Ng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash shell problem
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:36:22 +0800

Should I use bash shell or some other shells?

Philip

Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
> > Try:
> > ...
> > cd src
> > chmod +x Configure
> > ./Configure
>
> On second thoughts, that isn't going to work either.
> If execute permission were not set, the error message would be:
> "permission denied"



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From: "Kevin Carpenter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Handling Special Characters
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:55:04 -0400

The "@" character in my email address is interpreted and displayed as
'localdomain@localhost'

What can I do so that it just displays as '@' ?
=====

This is probably too easy of a question but I haven't been able to find the
answer.

I have a RH5.1 running mgetty.  Everything is done at the command line.  I
am not running X.

I'd like to include my email address in the /etc/issue file so people can
see it when they dialin to my box.

=====
The "@" character in my email address is interpreted and displayed as
'localdomain@localhost'

What can I do so that it just displays as '@' ?

TIA,
--
   -:>Kevin Carpenter @ Home
       Home: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
       Work:  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "pluto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCCS
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:03:08 +0800

I am new in Linux but not new in Unix.
So rather than searching everywhere, what is the equivalent "admin", "get",
"delta" commands in Linux? I could not find them in my OS

Thanks a lot in advance





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From: Juergen Sauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Duplicate a diskette of unknown format exactly
Date: 10 Jun 2000 21:02:31 GMT

Lee Tien Huat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
am Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:45:06 +0800 in comp.os.linux.misc:
LTH> Dear sir/madam,

LTH> I have one diskette of unknown format (maybe someone created for his/her own
LTH> use, so there is no program to format it). How do I duplicate this diskette
LTH> exactly?

All Unix Os are able to read unknown disks and may copy all the data,
without getting knowledge of the logical content.

You have to figure out, which physical storage on the disk is used:
        Tracks ? Density ?

After knowing that, you may read the data physically and dump it into
a file, try this first, most floppy formats are recognized by the fd driver:
        dd if=/dev/fd0 of=your-file.img
After that "your-file.img" should contain the raw data.
Then you have to format a floppy to the same geometry like your source.

Then just dump your Data back to the next floppy:
        dd if=your-file.img of=/dev/fd0

mfG
        Jojo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: SCCS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:38:50 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when pluto would say:
>I am new in Linux but not new in Unix.
>So rather than searching everywhere, what is the equivalent "admin", "get",
>"delta" commands in Linux? I could not find them in my OS

The emulation of SCCS that is available is CSSC.  See:
<http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/rridge/mysc/index.html>
<ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/CSSC/>

People more commonly use RCS, and its "big brother," CVS, to manage
source code on Linux and the free BSDs, and the current maintainer of
CSSC suggests that CVS is likely to be preferable.
-- 
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"sic transit discus mundi"
-- From the System Administrator's Guide, by Lars Wirzenius

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From: Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /tmp
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:41:44 +0000

Hi all,

I've been trying to figure out where all my disk space is going and I've
found approx. 260Mb of "stuff" in /tmp.
Most of it is owned by me and I was wondering if it is safe to remove
some of it - especially ~100Mb of xprn* postscript files.

Rgds,

Ian.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: /tmp
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Jun 2000 13:12:11 GMT

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:41:44 +0000, Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I've been trying to figure out where all my disk space is going and I've
> found approx. 260Mb of "stuff" in /tmp.
> Most of it is owned by me and I was wondering if it is safe to remove
> some of it - especially ~100Mb of xprn* postscript files.

It is safe to delete the files, it won't harm your system. Only watch out
with lock files made by programs that are running at the moment.

Martin
> 
> Rgds,
> 
> Ian.


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From: "jmt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Does Linux use multi processors
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:17:52 GMT

Thinking of getting Linux.  I have a dual pentium motherboard. Does
Linux use multi processors?

Thanks,
Jeff






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From: "pluto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCCS
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:18:59 +0800

Thank you

Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when pluto would say:
> >I am new in Linux but not new in Unix.
> >So rather than searching everywhere, what is the equivalent "admin",
"get",
> >"delta" commands in Linux? I could not find them in my OS
>
> The emulation of SCCS that is available is CSSC.  See:
> <http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/u/rridge/mysc/index.html>
> <ftp://alpha.gnu.org/pub/gnu/CSSC/>
>
> People more commonly use RCS, and its "big brother," CVS, to manage
> source code on Linux and the free BSDs, and the current maintainer of
> CSSC suggests that CVS is likely to be preferable.
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/textversion.html>
> "sic transit discus mundi"
> -- From the System Administrator's Guide, by Lars Wirzenius



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Does Linux use multi processors
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Jun 2000 13:30:17 GMT

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:17:52 GMT, jmt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thinking of getting Linux.  I have a dual pentium motherboard. Does
> Linux use multi processors?

Yes (of course)

Martin

> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Connecting Caldera 2.4 to a Win98 server
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:30:02 GMT

I have been having problems connecting my Caldera 2.4 to my win98 server. 
I have specified the IP addresses for the computers and cannot get them to 
connect to each other. I've tried to use Winproxy to get some sort of 
internet connection and this has not worked. I can get my other Win98 
computer to connect with no probs and have specified my server's IP 
address into the network configuration of my linux machine. This is my 
first attempt at running a linux machine and any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with Slackware 7, /etc/printcap, filters, and TCP/IP Printing
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:31:20 GMT

Hello to all:

We work we have two TCP/IP printers - HP LJ 4050TN with JetDirect card,
and a Savin 9935DP b/w copier/printer.   We also have a Slackware 7
linux box.  Everything in the office is 100-BaseT connected.   I have
set up a basic /etc/printcap to permit communication with the two
printers.  The problem is with proper text formatting.

- For the HP, I want to install a filter to convert all text to
postscript, print the document, and send a form feed to spit out the
result.   Images, I assume, will work straight-up?

- For the Savin, I have no idea what is needed.

Thanks for any help.

Scott


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From: Steve Dearth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: editor search
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:12:05 GMT

I've managed to almost entirely replace my windowsNT box with linux.
the only thing i currently use windows for is when doing c++/java source
code editing.  If someone could answer an editor question for me, there
would be one less windows box in the world.

I do most of my editing using vim.  great.  when i'm ready to do bug
fixes/etc. i switch over to my windows box and edit using the IBM editor
iedit.  generally not a great editor, but has a feature i can't live
without.  When i hit CTL-I, a dialog pops up, i entire a search string,
and it parses out a list of all of the lines that contain that string.
move my cursor to that line, hit CTL-a, and i'm at the appropriate
location in my document.  very handy.  anyone know of a linux text
editor with this type of functionality?

i know that vim allows my to put my cursor on a string, hit contol-[ and
get a list of lines containing the string, but this doesn't allow me to
specify the string outside of the document.


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From: "Kent A. Signorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: more GNOME and Linux questions
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:28:33 GMT

Just a couple more questions:

1) how do I change the font size/type/color for desktop icons in HELIX
GNOME with Sawfish?

2) is there any way to fix those horrible fonts in Netscape?  the net
looks terrible

3) (more of a straight linux question) i have two VFAT drives that I want
all users to be able to wirite to--what setting do I make for their
entries in FSTAB?  i don't want to have to put all their UID's in fstab.

Thanks so much.  Please e-mail the responses if you can (I haven't gotten
a good newsreader, yet.) 

Kent A. Signorini



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash shell problem
Date: 11 Jun 2000 14:16:07 GMT

Philip Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:  name="typescript"

: Script started on Sun Jun 11 17:16:41 2000
: darkstar:~# cd /hopm  me/philip/Apache
: darkstar:/home/philip/Apache# cd src
: darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# ls
: Apache.dsp       Configuration.apaci       README.EBCDIC  main
: Apache.mak       Configuration.tmpl        ap             modules
: ApacheCore.def           Configure                 apaci          modules.c
: ApacheCore.dsp           Makefile                  buildmark.c    os
: ApacheCore.mak           Makefile.config           changes        porting
: ApacheCoreOS2.def  Makefile.nt                     helpers        readme
: ApacheNW.mcp.gz    Makefile.tmpl           include        regex
: BUILD.NOTES      Makefile_win32.txt        install        support
: Configuration    Makefile_win32_debug.txt  lib
: darkstar:/home/philip/Apache/src# ./Configure
: bash: ./Configure: No such file or directory

It's not marked executable on contains a shell pointer in the first
line that is incorrect for your system. Do an "ls -l Configure" to
show us its perms. And also try "sh ./Configure".

Huuuh boy. Are you lucky. I still have the apache 1.3.12 source around
from my last compilation.

First of all, as far as I can see, the configure script is in the
directory ABOVE the src directory. The INSTALL file clearly says so:

    --------------------------

     $ ./configure --prefix=PREFIX
     $ make
     $ make install
     $ PREFIX/bin/apachectl start

     NOTE: PREFIX is not the string "PREFIX". Instead use the Unix
           filesystem path under which Apache should be installed. For
           instance use "/usr/local/apache" for PREFIX above.


Secondly, the Configure file in the src directory is marked executable
on my system, and its first line is "#!/bin/sh", as it should be. When
I execute it I get:

   oboe:/usr/oboe/ptb/src/apache_1.3.12/src% ./Configure
   Using config file: Configuration
    | Please note that the default httpd root directory has changed
    | from '/usr/local/etc/httpd/' to '/usr/local/apache/.'
    | You may add '-DHTTPD_ROOT=\"/usr/local/etc/httpd\"' to EXTRA_CFLAGS
    | in your Configuration file (and re-run Configure) or start
    | httpd with the option '-d /usr/local/etc/httpd' if you still
    | want to use the old root directory for your server.
   Creating Makefile
    + configured for Linux platform
    + setting C compiler to gcc
   ...

If I remember correctly, the trick to compiling apache is to use one of
the preconfigured config setups, and I seem to recall that running
various makes or configs without args tells you which to  choose ..
yes, ./configure --help is particularly, uh, helpful. I think it's
"--with-layout=Apache" or other scheme that you need.



Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Startup Fortunes
Date: 11 Jun 2000 14:18:08 GMT

Jeff Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Okay, this is really kind of not important, but I am pretty sure I saw
: how to set up linux to run the fortune program everytime a user logs on,
: supplying them with a random quip, piece of knowledge, whatever.  I
: can't remember how to do it, and I was hoping someone else would be able
: to tell me.  I haven't been able to find it, and I've tried.

Put the command "fortune" in whatever script you run when you logon.
For me (who uses tcsh), its ~/.login.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Handling Special Characters
Date: 11 Jun 2000 10:44:29 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:55:04 -0400, Kevin Carpenter 
<<8hvuv1$bv4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>This is probably too easy of a question but I haven't been able to find the
>answer.
>I have a RH5.1 running mgetty.  Everything is done at the command line.  I
>am not running X.
>I'd like to include my email address in the /etc/issue file so people can
>see it when they dialin to my box.
>The "@" character in my email address is interpreted and displayed as
>'localdomain@localhost'
>What can I do so that it just displays as '@' ?

man getty, line 428:
 To display a single '@' character, use either '\@' or '@@'.
HTH, HAND.

-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Beer is a vegetable.  WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: kernel identification? What is "what" in Linux?
Date: 11 Jun 2000 10:44:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <8hvqko$f21$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: In article <8hqpeh$ku1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>:> With what tool can I find out from just looking at the file (a la 
>:> 'what /kernel' or 'what /vmunix' one is used from UNIX systems)?

>: If you can find the kernel image ("vmlinuz", "zImage", "bzImage", etc.),
>: you can run "file /path/to/image" on it.

> Would that also tell me what version the kernel is  (e.g. 2.2.14?)

Perhaps you should try it.

$ file /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16
/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version \
2.2.16 (root@perdita) #2 Thu Ju, RO-rootFS, root_dev=0x302, Normal VGA

> I suspect it only tells me it is a bzipped compressed file.

(1) bzip is never used for the kernel.
(2) The kernel image is not just a compressed file; it also contains the
    code to start up and uncompress the compressed image.

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Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Koen Van Baelen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reading CD-RW's
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:53:13 GMT

Hi everybody,

I've got a CD-RW thai I created with Adaptec DirectCD with a HP 9100
CD-writer in Windows. Can I read this CD in a normal CD-ROM player in
Linux or do I need to get some extra software?

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Koen Van Baelen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://users.pandora.be/koen.van.baelen
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:57:20 GMT

  David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  In a message on Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:00:00 GMT, wrote :

DS> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DS> 
DS> ' History and Microsft have proven the market cannot kill M$, even when
DS> ' the market is more innovative.
DS> 
DS> "Yeah?  Well history is about to change."
DS>     Marty McFly, "Back To The Future" 1985
DS> 
DS> Linux is within a couple years of being a major threat to Microsoft
DS> where it hurts the most:  on the desktop.
DS> 
DS> Look at KDE2.  It is coming along very nicely.
DS> 
DS> Look at Gnome.  They have a mission of being better than KDE.
DS> 
DS> KDE has the mission of being the BEST desktop, period.  Two free
DS> desktop environments of high quality competing on merit.  Best of all, 
DS> you can use either of them or some other desktop and window manager
DS> and still run your favorite Linux applications.  Not only that, they
DS> compile and run on *BSD.
DS> 
DS> The compiler is getting better.  Friendlier development tools are
DS> getting better.  Office type software ( KOffice, StarOffice,
DS> AplixWare) is getting better.
DS> 
DS> The application barrier to entry is ready to fall.  The hardware
DS> barrier will be next.
DS> 
DS> Sure, Microsoft will be around for a long, long time.  But their star
DS> is already fading.  See how many DSL providers support Windows 2000.
DS> Java is not dead yet and shows signs of rising back up.
DS> 
DS> I've heard that Apple is basing its next major OS on BSD.  Why they
DS> didn't go with NextStep is beyond me.  But my guess is that Apple will 
DS> be able to finance a real OS from their iMac sales.  It will be a Un*x
DS> under the skin.  That skin will look like MacOS in terms of look and
DS> feel.  Probably with some enhancements.  If Apple does the smart thing 
DS> and supports GCC and contributes to it so that free software can be
DS> compiled and run on the Mac, then Apple will start to thrive again.

NextStep == BSD + 'Eye Candy'.

MacOS X  == BSD + (differnt) 'Eye Candy'.

DS> 
DS> In five years, Microsoft won't be the company they were five years
DS> ago.  I don't know where Apple will be.  They actually have to produce 
DS> their new OS.
DS> 
DS> The future looks pretty bright to me, from a computing standpoint.
DS> 
DS> -- 
DS> David Steuber   |   Hi!  My name is David Steuber, and I am
DS> NRA Member      |   a hoploholic.
DS> 
DS> All bits are significant.  Some bits are more significant than others.
DS>         -- Charles Babbage Orwell
DS>                                                                                    
                                        






                                     
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