Linux-Misc Digest #783, Volume #23 Wed, 8 Mar 00 00:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Tar useless for backups? (Bob Tennent)
Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time? (Donald R. Weimann)
Re: setting a debian sys default architecture?? (John Hasler)
Re: crazy fdisk output ("Charles Sullivan")
Re: TN5250 Terminal emulator for X (Cokey de Percin)
Re: What to do if you forget the root password (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Salary? (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Do you hate vi? (RST)
Re: Salary? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: using gcc to compile (Paul Kimoto)
Linux drivers: digital recorders (Neil Zanella)
X resource tutorial / reference? (Len Philpot)
Re: Salary? (Bernardo)
Re: Screen resolutions ("Farhan Ahmad")
Re: Do you hate vi? ("Brian")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Tar useless for backups?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 02:03:21 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 01:35:44 +0000, MH wrote:
>>
>I'll give it a try--or just "cp" everything to a backup drive!
Use cp -a ( -a is equivalent to -dRp).
Bob T.
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From: Donald R. Weimann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: multiple users using X on same computer at same time?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:07:29 GMT
Yes you can. I thought you were already in xwindow.
>From the start.
Boot your machine.
Login and give your password.
startx # This starts up xwindow :0
cntrl-alt f1
login
startx -- :1 # This starts xwindow :1
cntrl-alt f2-f6
login
startx -- :2-6 # This starts xwindow :2 to :6
cntrl-alt f7 will switch you into your 1st xwindow and cntrl-alt f8-f12
will switch you into your other xwindows.
Hope this helps
# Don
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... but I cant start X using your method. I have since been told that
vt8
> must be added to the line... I tried that and it worked.
>
> "Donald R. Weimann" wrote:
>
> > Rick,
> >
> > The easiest way to do what you want is:
> > cntrl-alt f1
> > login
> > startx -- :1
> > This will give you your 2nd account (the first is :0)
> >
> > cntrl-alt f2
> > login
> > startx -- :2
> > This will give you your 3rd account etc.
> >
> > You can do this up to f6 for a total of 7 xwindows.
> >
> > cntrl-alt f7 will switch you into your 1st xwindow and cntrl-alt
f8-f12
> > will switch you into your other xwindows.
> >
> > Hope this helps
> >
> > # Don
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I would like to have 2-3 accounts active on the same computer,
running
> > X
> > > at the same time. I tried cntrl-alr-f2, but when I log in and
start X,
> > I
> > > get an error saying display 0 is using X. I tried startx --:1, and
> > xinit
> > > --:1, but get the same error. Is it possble to do this.
> > >
> > > any and all help appreciated.
> > > --
> > >
> > > Rick
> > > To reply by email remove NOSPAM from my address.
> > >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting a debian sys default architecture??
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:00:41 GMT
Corey writes:
> I was hoping this would change the results of the dpkg-architecture
> script and get me what I want....any takers?
I suggest that you ask on the debian-devel mailing list. Go to
www.debian.org to subscribe.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crazy fdisk output
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 21:40:42 -0500
Nico Beuermann wrote in message ...
>Sam E. Trenholme wrote:
>> >although my system�s running on /dev/hda:
>> >( rdev: /dev/hda1 / ) "fdisk -l" shows a horrible partition table. I
think
>> >that comes from the wrong geometry data. My HD has 15 heads, 63 sectors
with
>> >a size of 6.1Megs or so.
>> >
>> >Is there anybody who can explain how to fix this problem without loosing
any
>> >data?
>>
>> If Linux is able to see the partition just fine (as evidenced by the fact
>> that Linux boots up and works on your system), then I would not worry
>> about it.
>>
>> Fdisk is an old application, and can not handle partition tables
generated
>> by the fdisks that other OSes use all the time.
>>
>> - Sam
>
>It�s fdisk v2.9t and the HD is made by yast 1.01 (Suse Distribution 6.2).
>The thing i�m concerned about is that i�ve created the partitions with
linux�
>fdisk.
The difference in reported HD geometry is no doubt due to
your bios having LBA enabled. This is generally a good thing
and you should go with it.
(With LBA, the manufacturer's HD geometry is remapped so there
are a greater number of logical heads and fewer logical cylinders -
the objective being to keep as much of the HD space as possible
below the 1024 cylinder boundary.)
The version of fdisk you are using is normally able to comprehend
this. Did you in any way attempt to force the system to use
the manufacturer's HD geometry - this might confuse the issue.
I'm unfamiliar with the Suse distributions, but assume your kernel
version is 2.2.0 or highter.
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From: Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TN5250 Terminal emulator for X
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 02:49:59 GMT
Jim Moseby wrote:
>
> I'm looking for an X based telnet client that will emulate IBM/5250.
> Anybody know if one exists?
>
> Jim
Nope, I've never seen/heard of one. There is a text tn5250 package
that's supposed to work quite well and should run in an X window.
Note that there is an X3270 package and that you can run 3270 emulation
against an AS/400.
Best
Cokey
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What to do if you forget the root password
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 21:49:59 -0500
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:57:28 -0500, Jan Schaumann
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >Or easier, at the LILO prompt type
> >LILO: your_kernel_name_here single
>
> This doesn't work for all distros--SuSE *ALWAYS* asks for the root
> password when entering single-user mode. If RedHat doesn't do this, then
> maybe RedHat needs to rethink a few things regarding security.
>
Well, the scurity of your box *always* depends on the *physcial* access
to the machine. In order to type LILO: your_kernel single, you must be
sitting at the keyboard attached to the this specific computer - not
possible remotely.
Now if you don't trust the people who have physical access to the
machine,then you're really screwed: they might install windows when
you're not looking.
> I prefer to dispense solutions that are distro-independent, even if they
> are a little more complex than alternatives. Being tied to one distro's
> peculiarities is a Bad Thing in most cases.
>
Well, you got me there.... I thought that this single-thing would work
on all Linux-distros. it is of course better to have a
all-distro-approach.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:22:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Joseph T. Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote on 7 Mar 2000 13:12:49 GMT <8a2v8h$b0o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy The Ghost In The Machine
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: You haven't been seeing the price of gas rise lately,
>: have you, then? :-)
>
>: Around here, it's hovering around $1.60 a gallon, and that's
>: for the ultra-cheapie stuff. I don't know how many pounds
>: per liter that is offhand, though.
>
>
>Gas prices are MUCH higher almost everyplace else in the world, mainly
>due to high taxes, but also due to the fact that the U.S. is a huge
>producer of oil in addition to being the largest consumer. (Obviously
>most oil produced here is consumed here, and we still import much of
>the rest of the world's production.)
Whoops!
I keep forgetting the US is not the biggest thing in the world.
I'll go flog myself with a wet pizza now.... :-)
>
>
>Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RST)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 03:35:15 GMT
Phil Launchbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Leighton) wrote:
@
@ >A newcomer then, I remember DOS when there wasn't a full screen editor
@ >and you had to use edlin.
@
@ .. and a pile of dingos kidneys it was too.. especially as at the time I
@ was also using the IBM xedit editor on VM/CMS.. very nice, very flexible!
wimps, allo'ya.
C:\> REM for reference:
C:\> type file.txt
[........]
C:\> type CON > file.txt
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RST;G! a?16 d? e*- h! r++ s: t tv++ b+++>++++ w--- x+ C++ D? DI+ E--- G K+++
L++>+++ M+>- o O? P+ PE PGP-- PS+++ UL++++ V-- W- X- Y?;beka.thomas@yahoo_com
"woohoo, i've been .sigged again!" -iain
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 07 Mar 2000 22:41:50 EST
That's all well and good, but what's public transportation like in the UK? In
the suburban areas of the US you're lucky if it exists. In most places, it
doesn't.
(Remember, what I would consider a "short" drive for a long weekend sould get me
around the entire country of Scotland as far as distance goes.)
I think nothing of driving 45 minutes to spend a couple of hours with friends
a couple of times a week. One of those friends travels to Scotland FREQUENTLY
on business, and they all think we're daft for driving that bloody long just for
a couple of hours!
So, everything is relative.
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:11:37 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>And verily, didst The Ghost In The Machine hastily scribble thusly:
>> In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote on Mon, 6 Mar 2000 21:31:57 +0000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>And verily, didst Desmond Coughlan hastily scribble thusly:
>>>> I think it's a myth that wages are higher in the United States, at least
>>>> when the high cost of living is taken into account.
>>>
>>>What high cost of living?
>>>Food's cheap. Petrol's cheap. PHone calls are cheap?
>>>You don't have a HIGH cost of living.
>
>> You haven't been seeing the price of gas rise lately,
>> have you, then? :-)
>
>I doubt it beats ours yet. 79p/Litre (Thats almost 3 POUNDS per gallon, $4.50
>ish).
>
>> Around here, it's hovering around $1.60 a gallon, and that's
>> for the ultra-cheapie stuff. I don't know how many pounds
>> per liter that is offhand, though.
>
>So we have to pay about 3 times as much then.
>
>> (Of course, living in the San Francisco Bay Area / Silicon Valley
>> might have something to do with that...)
>
>79p is from a CHEAP area!
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: using gcc to compile
Date: 7 Mar 2000 22:42:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tristan Hill wrote:
> I'm trying to compile a program with gcc on my redhat 6.1 machine.
> The compilation calls signal.h by #include <signal.h>
> it finds signal.h in /usr/include
> signal.h in turn calls bits/sigcontext.h. this calls asm/sigcontext.h
> which cannot be found. I can find the file at /usr/i386-glibc20-
> linux/include/asm/sigcontext.h
>
> If this is want I want how do I make gcc find it?
You want the file at /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/sigcontext.h,
which you can get by installing the kernel headers. Then check for
the symbolic links from /usr/include/asm to /usr/src/linux/include/asm,
and from /usr/src/linux/include/asm to /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux drivers: digital recorders
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 00:47:55 -0330
Hello,
Does anyone know of any Linux drivers that
work with digital recorders? These use the
serial port or the mic port of the sound card
to transfer recoreded messages to a computer.
Are there any Linux drivers for any such device?
Thanks,
Neil
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Len Philpot)
Subject: X resource tutorial / reference?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:22:51 GMT
Can anyone point me at a general tutorial / reference on X resources,
their usage, syntax, scope, etc., etc.? Obviously, they're very
important in the fine-tuning of X applications, but I know next to
nothing about them.
I'm a little familiar with xrdb, fontsel, .Xdefaults, etc., less
familiar with editres and know of only a few application-specific
resources. Specifically, right now I'm working with NEdit and am trying
to track down a keybinding issue, but I'd like to know more about it
all.
Thanks!
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- Len Philpot -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal)
---------------> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
----- ><> -----> http://www.centuryinter.net/lphilpot/ (web)
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From: Bernardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 04:21:57 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric LEMAITRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi !
>
> You're both right and wrong, to my opinion.
> You're right when you say that in Europe technical people are at the
bottom of
> the totem pole, no matter how good they are.
> You're wrong whan you conclude immediatly that the consequence means
an
> immediate technical suppremacy of US produces, and that any good
European
> software is developed by universities, not by private companies. In
france we
> have many private companies which are famous worldwide such as
Business
> Objects, GemPlus, Cap-Gemini, ... and their programmers are very
qualified too,
can you tell me whether GemPlus is a public company, i.e., is it listed
somewhere? I would like buy some shares but I can't seem to find it
anywhere (tried both US and European markets).
> but the awful trouble for us Europeans is the lack of strategical
efforts at
> government level. Most of all have left France mainland for abroad
where taxes
> are much lower. There is a business war raging on using new
technologies, and
> in Europe we have no headquarters, every single company fights alone
for
> herself, while in USA whole country is involved in technical worldwide
> standards domination. We have among finest worldwide scientifics at
INRIA in
> France on the pure technical field, perhaps better than at MIT itself
although
> MIT people are allready excellent too, but what use of any good
technical
> knowledge if we can't use it for making business ? Clearly none for
us, this is
> where we are clearly inferior. USA is often less (not much) advanced
on
> technological field, but it clearly smashes us in the business field.
> USA are much better than others for they are much more efficient for
using
> their skills into making money, not for technical supremacy, but in
overall you
> are right, the result will be the same : more and more taxes will
make our best
> people flee to USA or elswhere for getting better life and salary,
this can't
> be avoided for us.
> In California, first most important community in number are Chinese,
second are
> ... French, allmost all involved in computing. Awfull waste, but
politically
> planified so whe could leave but not fight against it.
>
> Bye !
>
> --
> Eric LEMAITRE
> Ing�nieur CNAM (CNAM Computer Engineer, MSD)
> Ing�nieur et Formateur certifi� Linux Red-Hat (RHCE & RHCX Certified)
> Responsable de formation pour les fili�res Internet et Linux (Head of
> Internet/Linux Education Department)
>
>
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From: "Farhan Ahmad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen resolutions
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:41:00 +0500
Hi!
Yes, this probably is the problem of your display card, if you are using
SiS620 or SiS530 then you might not work it around it so easily, if this is
the case try going to http://www.sis.com.tw
Download the driver and try to install it.
Regards,
Crush2.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8a2ko8$c9v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> you maybe using the wrong Xserver, goto
> http://www.xfree86.org and see if your vedio card is compatible with
> the version of xfree86 your using.
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Steve Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It probably doesn't have anything to do with your monitor. Probably
> has
> > something to do with your video card. Find out what the chipset is
> and
> > then if it doesn't auto detect the video card, manually select the
> chipset
> > the video card has. If you can't find it listed there then it's
> probably
> > bad news and your no-name-brand video card isn't supported by Linux.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > RCS wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I'm fairly new to Linux ( have installed it a couple of times on a
> > couple of
> > > machines) and I keep having the same problem with the screen
> > resolution -
> > > the installed system doesn't accept resolutions higher than 600 x
> 400,
> > which
> > > makes my graphical interface really too big and clumsy (at least
> for my
> > 17
> > > inch monitor).
> > >
> > > I have tried both Redhat 5.2, 6.1 and Caldera 2.3.
> > >
> > > The machine I recently installed Linux om (first Calderea 2.3, later
> > Redhat
> > > 6.1, I tried both Gnome and KDE) has got a Panasonic PanaSync 5G,
> 4MB
> > video
> > > ram, and a Pentium 200 MHz.
> > >
> > > Why does not the installation procedures (both Redhat and Caldera)
> accept
> > > higher resolutions than this? And is there a way to force a higher
> > > resolution manually?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance,
> > > Rolf C Stadheim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
> >
>
>
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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:48:13 -0800
Hi Phil:
RST wrote in message ...
>Phil Launchbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>wimps, allo'ya.
>C:\> type CON > file.txt
You forgot:
<alt>z
To end console to file job.
Best regards,
Brian
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