Linux-Misc Digest #783, Volume #26 Thu, 11 Jan 01 18:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux on a 64MB flash disk ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Swap Partition Size (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Softball newbie question(s) (Dwight Tovey)
Re: changing window managers & .Xclients (Dave Brown)
Graphic conversion tool ? (David Livingstone)
Re: Softball newbie question(s) (Mike Silva)
Re: Animated Gif Viewer (William Kendrick)
Re: Graphic conversion tool ? (Bruce Stephens)
Re: Swap Partition Size (Dave Brown)
Re: Is my tape drive dying? (Bill Grzanich)
Re: Upgrading the Linux Kernel (Andy Piper)
Re: Problem with posting from leafnode (Andy Piper)
Re: Sun/HP Gnome support (Andy Piper)
Re: Palm emulators for Linux? (Andy Piper)
Re: Backup software for Linux? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Swap Partition Size (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on a 64MB flash disk
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.embedded
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:35:16 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Vincent Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <93jmug$29c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Klaus-Guenter Leiss) writes:
>>I think every distribution can be stripped smaller than that provided
>>your accumulated assortment of programs that you want to use is not
> I took a slackware 7 distribution and trimmed it quite easily
> to under 40 megs just by not including X and a lot of non-server
> and non-runtime items. Then do a strip on whatever binaries and
> libs are left.
I did much the same with debian, and took it down to 8MB.
1434 bin
9 boot
1 cdrom
1 dev/pts
1 dev/inet
21 dev
3 etc/Net
9 etc/ae
4 etc/alternatives
2 etc/apm/resume.d
2 etc/apm/suspend.d
3 etc/apm/event.d
8 etc/apm
9 etc/autoconf
13 etc/bind
5 etc/console-tools
4 etc/cron.d
3 etc/default
1 etc/deliver
6 etc/emacs/site-start.d
8 etc/emacs
6 etc/emacs20/site-start.d
7 etc/emacs20
181 etc/init.d
3 etc/ipip
95 etc/joe
2 etc/kbd
37 etc/mail
36 etc/mc
7 etc/modutils/arch
16 etc/modutils
5 etc/network
10 etc/pam.d
1 etc/raid
11 etc/rc.boot
2 etc/rc0.d
2 etc/rc1.d
2 etc/rc2.d
2 etc/rc3.d
2 etc/rc4.d
2 etc/rc5.d
2 etc/rc6.d
2 etc/rcS.d
14 etc/security
1 etc/site-start.d
4 etc/ssh
3 etc/terminfo/a
2 etc/terminfo/d
3 etc/terminfo/l
5 etc/terminfo/r
6 etc/terminfo/s
7 etc/terminfo/v
6 etc/terminfo/x
33 etc/terminfo
26 etc/vga
13 etc/wu-ftpd
735 etc
1 floppy
1 home
1 initrd
1 lib/modules
1 lib/security
3922 lib
1 lost+found
1 mnt
1 proc
1 root
1038 sbin
1 tmp
1 usr
1 var
1 account
7172
Here's a listing (I think this will be valuable so no apologies for the
length; I've compacted it as best I can...):
bin
bin/bash bin/arch bin/cat bin/chgrp bin/chmod bin/chown bin/cp
bin/date bin/dd bin/df bin/dmesg bin/dnsdomainname bin/domainname bin/echo
bin/false bin/fuser bin/grep bin/gunzip bin/gzip bin/hostname bin/kill bin/ln
bin/login bin/ls bin/mkdir bin/mknod bin/mount bin/mv bin/netstat bin/nisdomainname
bin/pidof bin/ping bin/ps bin/pwd bin/rbash bin/rm bin/rmdir bin/sed
bin/sleep bin/stty bin/su bin/sync bin/tar bin/true bin/umount bin/uname
bin/ypdomainname
boot
boot/boot.b boot/chain.b boot/mbr.b boot/os2_d.b
cdrom
dev
......
dev/zero
etc
etc/aliases etc/motd etc/Net etc/Net/Config.pm
etc/auto.master etc/ae etc/ae/ae2vi.rc etc/ae/ae2vix.rc
etc/alternatives
.....
etc/alternatives/wish.1
etc/apm
etc/apm/resume.d
etc/apm/resume.d/pcmcia
etc/apm/suspend.d
etc/apm/suspend.d/pcmcia
etc/apm/event.d
etc/apm/event.d/pcmcia
etc/autoconf
etc/autoconf/acconfig.h
etc/bind
etc/bind/db.255 etc/bind/db.127.0.0
etc/bind/db.local etc/bind/db.root etc/bind/db.0
etc/bind/named.conf etc/bind/db.127 etc/bind/named.conf.dpkg-dist
etc/console-tools
etc/console-tools/config etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz
etc/cron.d
etc/cron.d/modutils etc/cron.d/fmirror etc/cron.d/autolog
etc/default
etc/default/rcS etc/default/devpts
etc/deliver
etc/emacs
etc/emacs/site-start.d
etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dpkg-dev.el etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gettext.el
etc/emacs/site-start.d/00debian-vars.el etc/emacs/site-start.d/50haskell-mode.el
etc/emacs/site-start.el
etc/emacs20
etc/emacs20/site-start.d
etc/emacs20/site-start.d/35elib-startup.el etc/emacs20/site-start.d/50jde.el
etc/emacs20/site-start.d/50pcl-cvs-startup.el
etc/emacs20/site-start.d/00debian-vars.elc
etc/init.d
etc/init.d/pcmcia etc/init.d/network etc/init.d/keymaps.sh
....
etc/init.d/transproxy.orig etc/init.d/adjtime
etc/ipip
etc/ipip/routes etc/ipip/config
etc/joe
etc/joe/jpicorc etc/joe/joerc etc/joe/rjoerc
etc/joe/termcap etc/joe/terminfo etc/joe/jstarrc
etc/joe/termcap.idx etc/joe/jmacsrc
etc/kbd
etc/kbd/config
etc/mail
etc/mail/sendmail.cw etc/mail/sendmail.ct
etc/mail/sendmail.mc etc/mail/sendmail.cf
etc/mc
etc/mc/mc.ini etc/mc/mc.global
etc/mc/mc.menu etc/mc/mc.lib
etc/mc/mc.ext etc/mc/mc.ini.dpkg-dist
etc/modutils
etc/modutils/aliases etc/modutils/paths
etc/modutils/arch
etc/modutils/arch/i386 etc/modutils/arch/m68k.amiga
etc/modutils/arch/m68k.atari etc/modutils/arch/m68k.generic
etc/modutils/arch/m68k.mac etc/modutils/arch/alpha
etc/modutils/pcmcia etc/modutils/modconf
etc/modutils/setserial etc/modutils/options
etc/network
etc/network/interfaces
etc/pam.d
etc/pam.d/linuxconf etc/pam.d/ftpd etc/pam.d/sudo
etc/pam.d/other etc/pam.d/lockvc etc/pam.d/imap
etc/pam.d/xscreensaver etc/pam.d/cucipop etc/pam.d/kbdrate
etc/raid
etc/rc.boot
etc/rc.boot/0setserial.pre-2.15
etc/rc0.d
etc/rc0.d/K20logoutd
......
etc/rc0.d/K20xntp3
etc/rc1.d
etc/rc1.d/K20logoutd
.....
etc/rc1.d/K20xntp3
etc/rc2.d
etc/rc2.d/S20logoutd
.....
etc/rc2.d/S20xntp3
etc/rc3.d
etc/rc3.d/S20logoutd
.....
etc/rc3.d/S20xntp3
etc/rc4.d
etc/rc4.d/S20logoutd
.....
etc/rc4.d/S20xntp3
etc/rc5.d
etc/rc5.d/S20logoutd
.....
etc/rc5.d/S20xntp3
etc/rc6.d
etc/rc6.d/K20logoutd
.....
etc/rc6.d/K20xntp3
etc/rcS.d
etc/rcS.d/README
.....
etc/rcS.d/S46adjtime
etc/security
etc/security/group.conf etc/security/time.conf
etc/security/limits.conf etc/security/pam_env.conf
etc/security/access.conf
etc/site-start.d
etc/ssh
etc/ssh/sshd_config etc/ssh/ssh_config
etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub
etc/ssl
etc/terminfo
etc/terminfo/a
....
etc/terminfo/x/xterm-debian
etc/vga
etc/vga/libvga.et4000 etc/vga/dvorak-us.keymap
etc/vga/null.keymap etc/vga/libvga.config
etc/wu-ftpd etc/wu-ftpd/ftpusers
etc/wu-ftpd/README etc/wu-ftpd/ftpconversions
etc/wu-ftpd/msg.deny etc/wu-ftpd/msg.nodns
etc/wu-ftpd/msg.toomany etc/wu-ftpd/pathmsg
etc/wu-ftpd/welcome.msg etc/wu-ftpd/ftpaccess
etc/adjtime etc/auto.misc etc/autolog.conf etc/bootparams
etc/bootptab etc/conf.modules etc/conf.routes etc/crontab
etc/defaultdomain etc/environment etc/exports etc/fdmount.conf
etc/fstab etc/ftpchroot etc/ftpusers etc/gateways
etc/gpm-root.conf etc/gpm.conf etc/group etc/host.conf
etc/hostname etc/hosts etc/hosts.allow etc/hosts.deny
etc/hosts.equiv etc/identd.conf etc/inetd.conf etc/inittab
etc/issue etc/issue.net etc/ld.so.cache etc/ld.so.conf
etc/lilo.msg etc/limits etc/locale.alias etc/localtime
etc/login.access etc/login.defs etc/magic etc/mail.rc
etc/mailcap etc/mailcap.order etc/mailname etc/mailname.O etc/modules etc/mtab
etc/mtools.conf etc/named.boot etc/named.conf.0 etc/named.conf.OLD etc/netgroup
etc/networks etc/passwd etc/printcap etc/procmeterrc etc/profile etc/protocols
etc/pwdb.conf etc/resolv.conf etc/rpc etc/securetty etc/services etc/shells
etc/suauth etc/suid.conf etc/super.tab etc/syslog.conf etc/timezone etc/updatedb.conf
etc/yp.conf etc/ypserv.conf etc/ypserv.securenets
floppy
home
initrd
lib
lib/modules
lib/security
lib/cpp
lib/ld-2.1.2.so lib/ld-linux.so.1 lib/ld-linux.so.1.9.11 lib/ld-linux.so.2
lib/ld.so lib/ld.so.1.9.11 lib/libBrokenLocale-2.1.2.so lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1
lib/libSegFault.so lib/libc-2.1.2.so lib/libc.so.6 lib/libcfont.so.0
lib/libcfont.so.0.0.0 lib/libcom_err.so.2 lib/libcom_err.so.2.0 lib/libconsole.so.0
lib/libconsole.so.0.0.0 lib/libcrypt-2.1.2.so lib/libcrypt.so.1 lib/libctutils.so.0
lib/libctutils.so.0.0.0 lib/libdb-2.1.2.so lib/libdb.so.2 lib/libdb.so.3
lib/libdb1-2.1.2.so lib/libdb1.so.2 lib/libdl-2.1.2.so lib/libdl.so.1
lib/libdl.so.1.9.11 lib/libdl.so.2 lib/libe2p.so.2 lib/libe2p.so.2.3
lib/libext2fs.so.2 lib/libext2fs.so.2.4 lib/liblockdev.so.0 lib/liblockdev.so.0.11.1
lib/libm-2.1.2.so lib/libm.so.6 lib/libncurses.so.3.4 lib/libncurses.so.4
lib/libncurses.so.4.2 lib/libnsl-2.1.2.so lib/libnsl.so.1 lib/libnss1_compat-2.1.2.so
lib/libnss1_db-2.1.2.so lib/libnss1_dns-2.1.2.so lib/libnss1_files-2.1.2.so
lib/libnss1_nis-2.1.2.so
lib/libnss_compat-2.1.2.so lib/libnss_compat.so.1 lib/libnss_compat.so.2
lib/libnss_db-2.1.2.so
lib/libnss_db.so.1 lib/libnss_db.so.2 lib/libnss_dns-2.1.2.so lib/libnss_dns.so.1
lib/libnss_dns.so.2 lib/libnss_files-2.1.2.so lib/libnss_files.so.1
lib/libnss_files.so.2
lib/libnss_hesiod-2.1.2.so lib/libnss_hesiod.so.2 lib/libnss_nis-2.1.2.so
lib/libnss_nis.so.1
lib/libnss_nis.so.2 lib/libnss_nisplus-2.1.2.so lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2
lib/libpam.so.0 lib/libpam.so.0.66 lib/libpam_misc.so.0
lib/libpam_misc.so.0.66 lib/libproc.so.2.0.0 lib/libpthread-0.8.so
lib/libpthread.so.0 lib/libreadline.so.2 lib/libreadline.so.2.1
lib/libresolv-2.1.2.so lib/libresolv.so.2 lib/librt-2.1.2.so
lib/librt.so.1 lib/libslang.so.1 lib/libslang.so.1.3.9
lib/libss.so.2 lib/libss.so.2.0 lib/libutil-2.1.2.so
lib/libutil.so.1 lib/libuuid.so.1 lib/libuuid.so.1.2 lib/nfslock.so
lib/nfslock.so.0 lib/nfslock.so.0.1
lost+found
mnt
proc
root
sbin
sbin/MAKEDEV sbin/depmod sbin/dumpe2fs sbin/e2fsck sbin/fdisk sbin/findsuper
sbin/fsck sbin/fsck.ext2 sbin/fsck.nfs sbin/genksyms sbin/getty sbin/halt
sbin/ide_info sbin/ifconfig sbin/ifdown sbin/ifport sbin/ifup sbin/ifuser
sbin/init sbin/insmod sbin/installkernel sbin/ipmaddr sbin/iptunnel sbin/kbdrate
sbin/kdstat sbin/kerneld sbin/kernelversion sbin/killall5 sbin/klogd sbin/ksyms
sbin/ldconfig sbin/lilo sbin/losetup sbin/mkfs sbin/lsmod sbin/lspci sbin/mingetty
sbin/mke2fs sbin/mkfs.ext2 sbin/mkswap sbin/modinfo sbin/modprobe sbin/portmap
sbin/poweroff sbin/probe sbin/rarp sbin/reboot sbin/rmmod sbin/route sbin/runlevel
sbin/setpci sbin/shutdown sbin/start-stop-daemon sbin/sulogin sbin/swapoff sbin/swapon
sbin/syslogd sbin/telinit sbin/tune2fs sbin/update sbin/update-modules
tmp
usr
var
account
account/pacct
Peter
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Subject: Re: Swap Partition Size
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 11 Jan 2001 16:32:57 -0500
Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Bob Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > When I originally installed RH7, I had 16MB RAM and allocated
> >> > 32MB to the swap partition. I've just installed another 32MB
> >> > RAM for a total of 48MB.
> >> >
> >> > I've read that the swap partition should be at least as large as
> >> > the total amount of memory. Why? What are the consequences of
> >> > not having as much swap space as real memory?
>
> ...
>
> >> Second, the swap space is needed if what you're doing requires more
> >> memory than what's available.
>
> That statement is the key to allocating swap space. The question
> is not one of what ratio of swap to RAM is needed, but of how much
> memory is required to run processes. If you have 512Mb of RAM and
> never ever run processes requiring more than 256Mb, then swap space
> is not even required. But if you have that same 256Mb of process
> memory required, and only have 16Mb (or 32Mb), then clearly the
> system is not going to function if swap is only %150 or even %200
> the size of RAM.
>
> The point of having swap space available is not to use it during normal
> operations (hopefully there is enough RAM that active processes are not
> normally ever swapped out), but to have enough virtual memory to be able
> continue running even when the rare occasion requiring the most memory
> occurs.
i find it useful to seperate swap usage into two kinds
1) active swapping
2) dormant program storage
in the first case, you are *running* program(s) which cannot all fit
into RAM at one time. imagine a dozen setiathomes.
in the second case, you are running a program which pushes a
non-running program into swap. consider that netscape which you
iconified an hour ago and haven't touched since.
in the first case, you should get more ram. in the second, this is
what swap is for. it allows a non running program to get out of the
way of a program which is running without requiring it to be killed.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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From: Dwight Tovey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Softball newbie question(s)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:39:03 -0700
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Mike Silva wrote:
>
> As an ex-MSDOS user I'm surprised that the
> current directory is not automatically part of the path -- anybody know
> the reasoning behind that?
Security. I used to know a user who had a script called 'ls' in his
home directory. The script would make a certain change to the user's
.profile before calling the regular 'ls' program. The end result of
the .profile change was that this one user eventually collected the
passwords of everybody who had '.' in their PATH and tried to do an
'ls' while in this user's directory (which he actively encouraged).
/dwight
--
Dwight N. Tovey
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
No matter how subtle the wizard, a knife in the shoulder blades will
seriously cramp his style.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: changing window managers & .Xclients
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Jan 2001 16:37:50 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve Connet wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown) writes:
>
>> .xinitrc is useful if you do not use a graphical login screen (via
>> xdm or gdm or kdm or whatever); it's only invoked if you "startx".
>> .Xclients takes its place for a graphical login.
>
>I am not quite sure I understand because I am using run level 3, no
>graphical login. I type 'startx' to go into X.
>
>--
>Steve Connet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
startx calls xinit; xinit calls $HOME/.xinitrc, if not found, calls
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc; xinitrc calls $HOME/.Xclients, if not found,
calls /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients; Xclients looks for your window-manager
setting.
If you're using a display manager, you intercept the above sequence
at the .Xclients/Xclients level, since the display manager starts the
Xserver (otherwise the function of xinit).
So if you use "startx", and put in .xinitrc a line "startkde",
that will start KDE. But if you did a graphical login, .xinitrc
is not read. If you don't have an .xinitrc, then .Xclients takes
over. Then you could put in .Xclients "startkde" to start KDE.
That would affect both "startx" and graphical login.
I do believe that the contents of the default files, xinitrc and Xclients
are probably distribution-dependent.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: David Livingstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Graphic conversion tool ?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:41:46 GMT
I have a number of graphic images in bitmap form I would like to convert to
gif in batch mode. What tool for linux can I use for this ? I am looking
at bitmap files from a window machine to be automatically converted and placed
on a Linux/apache web server for viewing. The converion would take place as
the files appear over time.
Thanks
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From: Mike Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Softball newbie question(s)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:35:49 GMT
In article <9Go76.665$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) wrote:
> In article <5On76.144$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johnny Kitchens wrote:
> >Mike, sorry but I can only answer the simple question.
> > "lie-nux" or "lin-ux"?
> >From the Linux community majority I say it's pronounced, "lin-ux"
> >I made the same pronunciation error when first introduced to the
product.
> >I thought it was "lie-nux" for a long time.
>
> It is lie-nux. Most people get it wrong...
That's what I assumed, since the (American) pronunciation of Linus is
lie-nus, but then I kept hearing people say lin-ux.
Mike
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Animated Gif Viewer
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:59:04 GMT
Brian & Colleen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Are any of the graphics programs on the Mandrake 7.1 distribution able
: to display animated gif files?
Load the image in The GIMP. Then right-click the image,
select "Filters" from the menu that pops up.
>From there, go to the "Animation" submenu. Under there, pick
"Animation Playback".
Enjoy!
-bill!
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Graphic conversion tool ?
Date: 11 Jan 2001 22:02:38 +0000
David Livingstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a number of graphic images in bitmap form I would like to
> convert to gif in batch mode. What tool for linux can I use for
> this ? I am looking at bitmap files from a window machine to be
> automatically converted and placed on a Linux/apache web server for
> viewing. The converion would take place as the files appear over
> time.
There are several that will work. My favourite is "convert", from
ImageMagick.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Swap Partition Size
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 Jan 2001 17:18:25 -0600
In article <93krh0$e7b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Simon wrote:
>In article <Gpa76.2663$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Arctic Storm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > When I originally installed RH7, I had 16MB RAM and allocated
>> > 32MB to the swap partition. I've just installed another 32MB
>> > RAM for a total of 48MB.
>> >
>> > I've read that the swap partition should be at least as large as
>> > the total amount of memory. Why? What are the consequences of
>> > not having as much swap space as real memory?
>> >
>
>What happens if a system requires more swap space than what's
>been allocated? Does the last initiated process go to sleep
>or terminate, or does the kernel lock up, or what?
If you're on a single-user workstation, and you don't have a habit of
starting up a bunch of applications each time you log in, whether you need
them or not, then your swap needs are modest. (And not related to the
amount of real memory on your system.) Since this is usually >my<
situation, I've gotten into the habit of setting the swap partition at
some nice round number, typically 100MB, assuming I have loads of disk
space.
In your situation, having no free disk space for another swap partition, you
should consider a swap-file. You can set priorities on swap space, so that
first, it would use the swap partition which already exists, and if that fills,
go to the swap file (for "disaster control").
In most cases, if you run out of real memory and paging space, the process
which is filling the space will terminate with an "out of memory" error.
If it becomes a contest, the kernel will "randomly" decide which processes
are killed, but kernel processes will be untouched as long as there are user
processes to kill.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Grzanich)
Subject: Re: Is my tape drive dying?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:21:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dwight
Tovey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have an old 486/66 system that I use as a central server for two
>other systems. Among other things, the server has a SCSI DLT tape
>drive that I use for backups. It used to work beautifully in that
>while reading or writing the tape would stream non-stop.
>
>Recently however the drive has started having problems where it
>constantly stops, rewinds a bit, then moves on. After a few meg has
>been transferred (reading or writing) I get an I/O error and I can no
>longer access the drive at all ('mt -f /dev/st0 status' returns
>"/dev/st0: Device not configured") until I reboot the system.
>
>I've cleaned the drive as well as trying brand new tapes. No change.
>If I use the command 'mt -f /dev/st0 erase', the tape streams along
>just fine. I did rebuild the kernel a couple of months ago to add in
>DOS FS support (modules), but I don't know if that is when the tape
>problems started.
>
>Has anybody else seen something like this? Is my drive dying on me or
>do I have some sort of buffer overrun problem? Any thoughts?
>
> /dwight
>
Hi, Dwight.
You don't mention what type of SCSI controller you're using, so this may not
apply. I had a similar problem with a DDS-3 drive attached to a Symbios
controller. The solution was to change the kernel option:
SCSI Support
SYM53C8xx SCSI Support
Synchronous transfers frequency in MHz
change from 40 to 5.
Since you mention you've recompiled the kernel recently, perhaps the default
transfer rate is higher than your controller can handle.
Hope this helps.
-Bill
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrading the Linux Kernel
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:50:04 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mike wrote:
> I am using Redhat 6.1 and was wondering how much I
> can up grade the kernel before the system becomes
> unworkable or unstable / unreliable?
I'm using an upgraded RedHat 6.x system. I compiled the 2.4.0 kernel
from source, installed it, and the system fails to get beyond the
"Starting xfs..." message on boot.
If I boot to single user, I get in - the kernel itself seems fine, I'm
just not sure that some of the RedHat 6.x bits are all that happy with
the latest version. I've not been able to pinpoint the problem, though
:-(
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with posting from leafnode
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:55:37 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Karel Jansens wrote:
> I'm using leafnode for collecting news, with Netscape as my newsreader.
What version of leafnode?
> The problem is that whenever I post from leafnode, fetchnews (run with
> the parameters -vvv -P) gives the reply "xxx already exists upstream",
> where xxx is the message number leafnode has assigned. Posting directly
> from Netscape to my newsserver gives no problems.
>
> I couldn't find any references to this kind of probem in the
> documentation, either online or on my system.
You could try checking the leafnode website www.leafnode.org, and/or
joining the mailing list and asking there.
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sun/HP Gnome support
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:58:01 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Roger Davis wrote:
>
> Does anyone here have any good inside info (especially from Sun's
> point of view, as I maintain a bunch of Solaris systems) on why
> Sun and HP are going to be offering Gnome desktop support soon,
> but AFAIK haven't said diddly about supporting KDE? Is this a
> GPL vs. Qt license issue, or were there technical reasons?
Clearly just because GNOME is better ;-P
<dons asbestos trousers>
(no, I've got no idea... :)
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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Palm emulators for Linux?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 22:04:49 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Stefan Braun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is a UNIX version of the POSE (Palm OS Emulator). You'll find it
> > at the Palm site: http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/tools/emulator/
>
> So folks have mentioned "xcopilot" and "POSE" as palm emulators. Can
> anyone whose used both contrast the two? Why would I chose one over the
> other?
IIRC, POSE copes with Palm OS >= 3.3, and xcopilot doesn't (last time
I looked, anyway...)
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backup software for Linux?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:47:21 -0500
Dave Brown wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> >Dave Brown wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <3a5c6b13.15616603@news>, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> >> >I'll second that. What have you got against letting the drive do the
> >> >compression, though?
> >>
> >> Personal opinion: it depends on the reliability of the media. A single
> >> media error destroys the ability to continue the decompress, so you
> >> lose everything past that point. If uncompressed, you only lose that
> >> file corrupted by the bad spot. At least that's been my experience.
> >> (And why I store backups on CDRs, using compression, but checking
> >> them after writing.)
> >
> >I think a lot depends on whether you compress on hardware or with
> >software, what the compression algorithm is, what your backup tool is
> >(tar-type or cpio-type), whether you check the backup afterwards or not,
> >and so on). It is my understanding that in tar, if you have tar do the
> >compression, that you lose everything after the first error. With cpio,
> >you have to compress separately. It is my understanding that you lose
> >only the bad block.
> >
> Thanks for clarify. Actually, I cancelled my post after I made it.
> After I said what I said, I did some experimenting with tar and
> "tar -z", and found that, after "corrupting" the .tar file or .tgz
> file, extraction was often possible using either. In fact, it
> seemed that the gzipped version was better at extracting files subsequent
> to the corruption than the ordinary tar file.
>
> But, my conclusion was that no conclusion could be drawn from my
> experimentation, and that my post was probably erroneous. So I cancelled
> it. Apparently you read the post before the 'cancel' was effective.
>
> I do, however, stand behind the statement that putting archives (where
> practicable) on a permanent medium such as CDR is a Good Idea(TM).
Perhaps, but I do mine at night when I am asleep and the machine lightly
loaded (as far as file IO is concerned), and since I do not want to get
a CD-ROM burner with a disco-adapter to feed it blank CD-ROMs
automatically, I will have to stick with my 8 Gigabyte DDS-2 tapes. I
cannot get all my stuff onto a CD-ROM.
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swap Partition Size
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 17:52:43 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
[snip]
> i find it useful to seperate swap usage into two kinds
>
> 1) active swapping
>
> 2) dormant program storage
>
> in the first case, you are *running* program(s) which cannot all fit
> into RAM at one time. imagine a dozen setiathomes.
Since the instruction space on these is the same, they would not take up
as much more space as you might think. They do use a lot of data space,
though and that cannot be shared (for that program, anyway). Also, it
would not make sense to run a dozen unless you had at least a 12-CPU SMP
machine. I suppose if I had a 12-way SMP machine (and a 2.4 kernel to
run them), I would have a lot more memory than I have now.
>
> in the second case, you are running a program which pushes a
> non-running program into swap. consider that netscape which you
> iconified an hour ago and haven't touched since.
>
> in the first case, you should get more ram. in the second, this is
> what swap is for. it allows a non running program to get out of the
> way of a program which is running without requiring it to be killed.
>
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