Linux-Misc Digest #783, Volume #24 Mon, 12 Jun 00 07:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: rebooting win 95b (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Help configuring KSamba ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: What should I do with ISO file? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
Re: Drivers (David M. Cook)
Re: Making the Jump (Anthony Campbell)
Linux user's mail is not stored on hdd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ANNOUNCEMENT
Re: FTP Script? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: New Roaring Penguin PPPoE Client ("John Lucas")
Which Linux is better? (Yang-Cheng Hsiao)
Web application question (Yang-Cheng Hsiao)
reconstruct software RAID 1
Re: Which Linux is better? (Martin Herrman)
Re: Drivers (Neil)
Connecting a printer through tcp/ip (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars=2DG=F6ran?= Andersson)
Newbie question: Linux for AMD processor? (Yang-Cheng Hsiao)
Re: Newbie question: Linux for AMD processor? (Martin Herrman)
Re: KPPP problem (Richard Watson)
Re: Drivers (Michael Daly)
Re: Making the Jump (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: MS word and linux (DeAnn Iwan)
Re: Which Linux is better? (YamYam)
Re: Apache 1.3.12 on RH6.2 (Terence PIRART)
Re: Which Linux is better? (Andreas Kahari)
Re: Which Linux is better? (Neurocrat)
Kernel loadable modules... (David Steuber)
Re: vote on MS split-up (Rick)
Re: vote on MS split-up (Rick)
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rebooting win 95b
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:06:15 -0400
Elof wrote:
>
> My system will not reboot
> when i exit windows and click on restart computer it closes down but will
> not restart
> or if i load a new program and it says it must reboot system it closes but
> again will not restart
>
> is there a bug fix or a patch to fix this problem
Pardon my not understanding, but what does your MSWindows problem have
to do with _Linux_?
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,jaring.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help configuring KSamba
Date: 12 Jun 2000 06:15:47 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Mun Yip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I can't get KSamba to run!!! there are errors while trying to use the make
: and make install command!!!
That's ice. Do you feel like showing us these errors, or are you going
to leave us to intuit or telepath them?
: Can't anyone tell me what i need to do? Do i need to configure samba b4
: using KSamba?
: Please input
Please output.
(I suspect you ned to install make and/or the c compiler plus some qt
and kde development files and tools on your system).
Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What should I do with ISO file?
Date: 12 Jun 2000 06:19:45 GMT
Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi! I download Redhat 6.2, but it is in iso files. How can I convert it to a normal
: files so that I can install it and also be able to copy it to a cd-r? Please explain
: more detail for me because I am a beginner. Thank you very much for your
: help. I am really appreciated.
Your question is phrased in a way that would be thrown out of court.
Consider the hypothesis that you are profoundly wrong in assuming the
rest of the universe have done something obviously incorrect. Consider
the possiility instead that the iso image is what you are supposed to
copy to the cd-r! Your burner software should contain such an option.
What do the installation instructions on the site you got the iso image
tell you?
Peter
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Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:30:59 -0500
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
[ posted and mailed ]
+ On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:47:58 -0500, "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+ wrote:
+
+ >On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
+ >
+ >+ On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 20:51:43 -0500, "Andrew N. McGuire "
+<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ >+
+ >+ >On Sat, 10 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
+ >+ >
+ >+ >+ On Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:35:40 GMT, Rich Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
+ >+ >+
+ >+ >+ >On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Stephen E. Halpin wrote:
+ >+ >+ >
+ >+ >+ >> On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:23:07 GMT, "Toaster Tester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+wrote:
+ >+ >+ >>
[ snip of entire post ]
Obviously you are more in tune with hardware issues than am I. :-)
I guess when it comes to hardware, there is a large discrepancy between
what I know, and what I think I know. UNIX/Linux is my forte, I can
make *nix do darn near anything I please, but I suppose on hardware
issues I have been remiss. I will have to go learn me some hardware now
bubba. ;^)
Regards,
anm
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/*-------------------------------------------------------.
| Andrew N. McGuire |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook)
Subject: Re: Drivers
Date: 12 Jun 2000 07:02:34 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:05:32 GMT, Java__Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, My Xwindows are huge.
Yup, sounds like the video is misconfigured.
Video cards do have drivers. These are usually part of a "server", e.g.
the SVGA (which has drivers for lots of video cards) or S3V servers, which
are themselves part of XFree86.
You can find out if the card is recognized by running
SuperProbe
I think that either the S3V or SVGA servers should work for your S3 Virge
card. On a Red Hat system, you can run
Xconfigurator
to configure the video. Other distros may use XF86Setup, sax, or xf86config.
3D stuff is handled by the glint and mesa libraries. See linux.3dfx.com.
Dave Cook
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Campbell)
Subject: Re: Making the Jump
Date: 12 Jun 2000 07:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:06:12 -0700, Harry V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am a long time windows user that is looking to make the jump to linux.
>
>I've got some extra hardware and want to build a second box to install
>it on, with the hope of eventually moving my main system to linux also.
>As a compleat newbie all the choices seem a little overwhelming, so I've
>come here looking for advice.
>
>Which distribution would be the most suitable for a beginner to start
>with? Something that I can get up and running with a minimum of fuss.
>
>Could someone also recommend a good book to help guide me in my adventure.
>
IMO it's not really the installation that's the real hurdle to get over,
it's more acclimatising oneself to the UNIX/Linux way of doing things. I
migrated to Linux from DOS and 4DOS rather than Windows, which probably
made it easier, but still there was a long and steep learning curve.
Building Linux on a second box is a good idea; you need to run the two
systems in parallel, probably for several months, until you get used to
Linux.
My own vote would be for Debian, but people do find the initial
installation rather intimidating. I started with Slackware, but got
stuck; moved to RedHat and got on much better; tried Debian and haven't
looked back.
Books: Most people recommend Running Linux, by Welsh and Kaufman
(O'Reilly), and I'd agree. Also, join a mailing list for whichever
distribution you're using.
Anthony
--
Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 (Windows-free zone)
Book Reviews: http://www.pentelikon.freeserve.co.uk/bookreviews/
Skeptical articles: http://www.freethinker.uklinux.net/
"To be forced by desire into any unwarrantable belief is a calamity."
I.A. Richards
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux user's mail is not stored on hdd
Date: 12 Jun 2000 19:30:10 +1200
I have just set up a user account under linux, mainly for the user to
retrieve his email. I have .fetchmailrc and .procmailrc set up exactly the
same as the root's - which works, by the way - with the user's own variables
such as username and password etc., to retrieve mail off a remote host.
Fetchmail says it is retrieving the mail like normal, but the mail is not in
the user's mailbox (/var/spool/mail/usersname). Any advice is much welcome.
Thanks very much.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT
Date: 12 Jun 2000 07:32:01 GMT
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT
Your program has nothing whatsoever to do with Linux. Why post about
it in a Linux newsgroup?
--
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT
This program can emulate Linux console, user can set jcom to 25 lines of the
screen, because linux console's ESC sequences almost equals to VT102.
user can select "Linux mode" of "Cursor/F keys" then use Linux function key
(F1 to F10) and cursor keys.
If user's PC connected to Linux machine then may type mc (Minight commander) to
test JCOM!
Enjoy JCOM!
Huey-Chang Jean
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP Script?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:33:42 GMT
"Gerald R. Jensen" wrote:
>
> I don't need this to download ... I need it to upload files at specified
> intervals, so it needs to run from a cron job.
Check out ncftpput. It should do what you want.
ncftpput -u user -p pass ftp.hostname.com /remote-directory /local-files
man ncftpput
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From: "John Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: New Roaring Penguin PPPoE Client
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:38:23 -0700
These are the only improvements they mention over version 1.7, but they may
have done a lot more to the script/programs from the version you are using.
The latest version of the PPPoE client is 1.9. It includes nice shell
scripts for managing the connection as well as more manual pages. It also
includes the "MSS Clamp" feature which eliminates the need to adjust MTU
settings on LAN hosts.
"David Steuber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
: I currently use Ver 1.0 of Roaring Penguin's PPPoE client to connect
: to Bell Atlantic Infospeed DSL. There is now a Ver 1.9 of that
: client. Part of me likes to upgrade. Another part of me thinks that
: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
:
: Are there any benefits to going through the hassle of upgrading the
: client?
:
: --
: David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
: NRA Member | a hoploholic.
:
: All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
: -- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yang-Cheng Hsiao)
Subject: Which Linux is better?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:05:51 GMT
Among all the Linux on the market, which one is the
best to use? Is there any good site on the Web that
compares the pros and cons of the Linux put together
by different comapnies?
Please email me with your advise if possible. Thanks!
Yang-Cheng
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yang-Cheng Hsiao)
Subject: Web application question
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:29:50 GMT
Hi:
I have the following newbie question:
Could someone tell me what features in the Web applications
developed by MS Visual Interdev(such as ASP, COM object,
..etc.) are only supported by IIS but not supported by the
Linux' Web server? What areas in a Web application are
independent between these two platforms?
For the MS features that are not supported by Linux Web
server, do we have any eqivalents under Linux?
Finally, is there any good source on the Web that might
contain more details information related to the questions
I have?
Please email me your advice if possible. Thanks you in
advance!
Yang-Cheng
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reconstruct software RAID 1
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:30:17 GMT
I was hoping my first software RAID questions was going to be "how can I
hotswap", but I guess we'll start here:
I have two 9.1 gig SCSI drive in a RAID-1 setup under RedHat 6.2. I have
three mounts, /, /home, and my swap partition (md0, md1, and md2). To
test out my setup I shutdown, removed the second drive, put in a new drive
and turned the computer back on. I did as I thought I should and ran:
raidhotadd /dev/md0 /dev/sdb
this worked fine, the drives started humming away, I checked
the /proc/mdstat and it told me that md0 was being recovered, how far it
was through the recovery, and aproximately how long it would take to
finish the rebuild. At the end of the rebuild of md0, these two lines
came up on the screen:
md1: no spare disk to reconstruct array! -- continuing in degraded mode.
md2: no spare disk to reconstruct array! -- continuing in degraded mode.
then I try to do what would seem to be the next logical step:
raidhotadd /dev/md1 /dev/sdb
this command give me the following error:
trying to Hotadd sdb to md1...
md error: md_input_device() returned -17
/dev/md1: cannot hotadd disk: invalid arguement
If anyone has any insight as to why this is happening, please share. I
can't find a scrap of information online.
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 08:42:47 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:05:51 GMT, Yang-Cheng Hsiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Among all the Linux on the market, which one is the
> best to use? Is there any good site on the Web that
> compares the pros and cons of the Linux put together
> by different comapnies?
Easy to use: Corel, Mandrake, RedHat
Best to learn linux: Slackware, Debian
Best for isdn? : Suse
You have to explore yourself, try different dists and find out yourself!
Martin
>
> Please email me with your advise if possible. Thanks!
>
> Yang-Cheng
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
10:40am up 8 days, 7:53, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.11
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drivers
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:54:14 +0000
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:05:32 GMT, "Java__Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, My Xwindows are huge. I have only been working on it for an few hours
>so I may have missed something. I have several video cards and maybe I need
>to get a driver for one of those. One is S3 ViRGE 325 PCI and I have a pass
>through config that uses a 3d Blaster Voodoo2 by Creative Labs.
Read the Xfree HOWTO .... you don't understand X.....
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lars=2DG=F6ran?= Andersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Connecting a printer through tcp/ip
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:51:30 GMT
Hello all!
I have a XEROX DocuPrint 4517 printer which is connected to my linux box
through the network.
I just want to know what to do to get it to work.
I've used xpadmin to set up the queue and selected tcp/ip and gave it a
hostname that I also added in the hosts-file. But there is no way to
select an ip-port. I don't know if that should be necessary in this
case.
The printer works fine with windows and tcp/ip but in windows I need to
specify a port named "PASSTHRU'"
I'm using Mandrake 6.2
Can anyone help me?
Hopefully
Lars-G�ran Andersson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yang-Cheng Hsiao)
Subject: Newbie question: Linux for AMD processor?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:17:47 GMT
Do I install the Linux for Intel processor on a machine
with AMD Athlon processor? Will there any potential
problem to run Linux on a PC with AMD Athlon
processor?
Please email me your advice if possible. Thanks in
advance!
Yang-Cheng
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Herrman)
Subject: Re: Newbie question: Linux for AMD processor?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 Jun 2000 09:24:26 GMT
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:17:47 GMT, Yang-Cheng Hsiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Do I install the Linux for Intel processor on a machine
> with AMD Athlon processor? Will there any potential
> problem to run Linux on a PC with AMD Athlon
> processor?
Will work fine. Although after the installation, recompile the kernel
(see /usr/doc/HOWTO/kernel* for more information about that) with
optimization for the AMD processor.
HTH
Martin
>
> Please email me your advice if possible. Thanks in
> advance!
>
> Yang-Cheng
--
Linux Gebruikers Handleiding v1.2 : http://2mypage.cjb.net
Linux RedHat 6.1 Kernel 2.2.14 Toshiba P233 MHz, 32 Mb RAM
11:20am up 8 days, 8:33, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Western Civilization, that would be a good idea!
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From: Richard Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: KPPP problem
Date: 12 Jun 2000 11:03:45 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg) writes:
> This could be very useful. But don't forget to send us the
> cryptographic key when you get back to your home planet.
Umm no it's just uuencoded :-)
Try saving the relevant bit of the file and do
uudecode <filename >output.txt
--
Richard Watson email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pentagon Web Design Ltd ICQ: 65274884
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From: Michael Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*del*>
Subject: Re: Drivers
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:06:24 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]*del*
"Java__Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Well still have not figured it out. I hate this darn 640x480 resolution. The
>system just will not let me adjust the size of the resolution. I am using
>SuSE and it comes with a utillity called SAX and that does not seem to like
>me.
>
SaX won't work properly until you've configured your mouse
(press TAB to move around the screen).
Then choose your card from the drop-down list.
Once this is done click on the 'Monitor' tab.
If your monitor is not listed click the <Expert> button
and enter the refresh ranges from your monitor manual.
I know I found it funny clicking <Expert> when I was a complete novice
at installing Linux, but it works!
After you've done this you should be able to click on the 'Desktop' tab
and set the resolution & colour depth required.
BTW, you need to sign on as 'root' to use SaX.
Michael Daly
http://crash.ihug.co.nz/~mikedaly
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn Iwan)
Subject: Re: Making the Jump
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:13:23 GMT
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:06:12 -0700, Harry V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am a long time windows user that is looking to make the jump to linux.
>
>I've got some extra hardware and want to build a second box to install
>it on, with the hope of eventually moving my main system to linux also.
>As a compleat newbie all the choices seem a little overwhelming, so I've
>come here looking for advice.
>
>Which distribution would be the most suitable for a beginner to start
>with? Something that I can get up and running with a minimum of fuss.
>
>Could someone also recommend a good book to help guide me in my adventure.
Favorite linux distributions are a matter of personal taste.
I like Suse--it has an "engineer's approach" to the installation. It
does a lot automatically, but also lets you take a lot of control
easily. If you buy the full distribution (about $30 US, street
price), you get a very nice reference manual and many gigabytes of
free and commercial software. I also like the YaST installer/package
manager.
Red Hat is also a good choice. System updates are relatively
frequent and available.
I'd actually recommend getting several books on Linux, since
the details they cover will differ slightly. I find I use "Using
Linux" and "The complete Linux Reference Manual" (which is a printed
collection of the howtos, etc.) most often.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (DeAnn Iwan)
Subject: Re: MS word and linux
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:20:55 GMT
On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 14:26:12 -0400, Mariusz Pagowski
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>I am receiving some e-mail in Word and want to read it in linux
>without going to windows. Is there any software (free/cheap) which would
>allow me to do that?
>Thanks,
>Mariusz
>
There is a word8 viewer (Office 97)...but the name escapes me.
It is in the Suse distribution, though. Don't know how well it works.
But then, taking word documents back and forth between Apples and IBMs
doesn't work entirely correctly.
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From: YamYam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:30:03 GMT
Try to point to: http://www2.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/distable.html
Or search at www.google.com for something like: linux distributions
comparison.
-YamYam.
Yang-Cheng Hsiao wrote:
>
>
> Among all the Linux on the market, which one is the
> best to use? Is there any good site on the Web that
> compares the pros and cons of the Linux put together
> by different comapnies?
>
> Please email me with your advise if possible. Thanks!
>
> Yang-Cheng
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From: Terence PIRART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache 1.3.12 on RH6.2
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:30:11 GMT
Thanks for your help.
I don't have that line in my httpd.conf. So I add it, but it changes
nothing. When I check my error_log file, I see a message "File does not
exist: /usr/www/site.dataline/htdocs/" which is the DocumentRoot of my
site.
The only way it works, is when I add the module mod_mime.c and I specify
the location of the mime.types file with the directive TypesConfig.
I'm happy that it is working now. But if you can spend some times to
explain me this behaviour, I'll appreciate.
Thanks in advance.
Terence
Akira Yamanita wrote:
>
> Terence PIRART wrote:
> >
> > I install apache on my RH6.2 server and I start the deamon.
> > When I try to access my site typing 'www.mysite.com' I get an 404 error
> > but if I type 'www.mysite.com/index.html' I get the page in my browser.
> >
> > Maybe there is something wrong in my httpd.conf file, but I can't find
> > what.
> >
> > Any suggestion would be appreciated
> >
> > Terence
>
> Do you have this line in /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf?
> (/etc/httpd/conf/srm.conf if you use the old config style.)
>
> DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.shtml index.cgi
>
> At the very minimum, it should be "DirectoryIndex index.html"
> You can check the Apache error log (/var/log/httpd/error_log)
> to see what file it's trying to access.
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Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 12 Jun 2000 12:38:26 +0100
In article <zR015.12329$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Yang-Cheng Hsiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Among all the Linux on the market, which one is the
>best to use? Is there any good site on the Web that
>compares the pros and cons of the Linux put together
>by different comapnies?
>
>Please email me with your advise if possible. Thanks!
>
> Yang-Cheng
The best distribution is IMHO Debian GNU/Linux, but it isn't put
together by any company, so you might feel unconfortable with it ;-)
http://www.debian.org/
/A (soon moving on to Debian GNU/Hurd)
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Subject: Re: Which Linux is better?
From: Neurocrat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 12 Jun 2000 21:52:15 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari) writes:
> /A (soon moving on to Debian GNU/Hurd)
What are the advantages of Hurd?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Kernel loadable modules...
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:59:58 GMT
I'm wondering if Linux supports the notion of loading kernel modules
that do not depend on the specific version/patch level of the kernel.
For example, suppose vendor X comes out with a piece of hardware that
the vendor wants to work with Linux. But the vendor does not want to
distribute source code for some reason, just a binary driver.
Is it possible to create such a module that will work when the user
decides to go from kernel 2.2.14 to 2.4 or 2.3.x?
I know that this is not in the spirit of free software, but there may
be some hardware vendors that would prefer to release binary only
drivers that present a user-land API to the device. Not having to
worry about the kernel version or the compiler that built the kernel
would be a major benefit.
I'm thinking in terms of knocking down hardware barriers of entry to
Linux. I think the software barriers are falling, although multimedia
is still way behind windows ( it hurts to say that ).
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:08:40 -0400
David Steuber wrote:
>
> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ' ... only becasue the governemnt was able to M$ into court, and the
> ' resulting very real legal threat to M$'s continued existence .
>
> Yeah, Big Brother is watching out for you. Trust Big Brother. He
> knows what's best for you and can solve all your problems and give you
> everything you need.
>
> Give the FSF and other open source groups and people some credit, why
> don'tchya?
>
> --
I give them a lot of credit. I USE Linux on my home machine, BUT, unless
Microsft is hobbled, no other OS is going to get a chance to really
compete. That has been proven. The ONLY reason inroads have been made is
that no companies have been able to go public with Microsoft's
"business" techniques.
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Rick
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: vote on MS split-up
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:10:16 -0400
"David .." wrote:
>
> David Steuber wrote:
> >
> > Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > ' ... only becasue the governemnt was able to M$ into court, and the
> > ' resulting very real legal threat to M$'s continued existence .
> >
> > Yeah, Big Brother is watching out for you. Trust Big Brother. He
> > knows what's best for you and can solve all your problems and give you
> > everything you need.
> >
> > Give the FSF and other open source groups and people some credit, why
> > don'tchya?
>
> It wasn't the DOJ that started MS's Problems.
> Enough said.
>
Then who was it? And why has M$'s marketshare problems just happent to
coincide with the lates antitrust action?
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Rick
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