Linux-Misc Digest #764, Volume #23 Mon, 6 Mar 00 07:13:02 EST
Contents:
PPP needs 2 tries for session (Dale Huckeby)
Re: Printing mailing labels? (Paul Winkler)
Re: SoundBlaster Awe64 PCI? (Philipp Maier)
WWW: WhatWeNeed.de - The Linux app wishing well (Frank Herlin)
Re: how to create screen shot in Linux (Achim Schupeta)
where is the sendfax-client ("Alexander Elsholz")
Re: how to create screen shot in Linux (John Doe)
Problems with directory listings on ZIP-Drive (Martin Schichl)
Re: Date and Time of Linux Server (System Administrator)
Re: how to create screen shot in Linux (Henrik Becker)
Re: httpd: cannot determine the IP address of........ (System Administrator)
Re: Startup Programs (Markus Pietrek)
Re: X-Forward to many X-Servers (Markus Pietrek)
Backup tools / old bru ? (Donald Arseneau)
Re: User Shutdown (Martijn Brouwer)
rpm and source packages (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Backup tools / old bru ? (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Salary? (Julio C. Gutierrez)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Huckeby)
Subject: PPP needs 2 tries for session
Date: 6 Mar 2000 00:22:32 -0800
Can anyone tell me what's going on here? I give the command:
"ifup ppp0", the phone rings, a connection is apparently established
momentarily, then PPP hangs up, dials again, and the second time
I get a continuous connection until I terminate it with: "ifdown ppp0".
Here's an example from /var/log/messages:
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS1 at
115200
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the
University of California
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost kernel: PPP: version 2.3.7 (demand dialling)
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost kernel: PPP line discipline registered.
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost kernel: registered device ppp0
Mar 5 15:11:30 localhost pppd[531]: pppd 2.3.10 started by root, uid 0
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: abort on (BUSY)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: abort on (ERROR)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: abort on (Invalid Login)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: abort on (Login incorrect)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: send (ATZ^M)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: expect (OK)
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: ATZ^M^M
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: OK
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:11:31 localhost chat[543]: send (ATDT7624321^M)
Mar 5 15:11:32 localhost chat[543]: expect (CONNECT)
Mar 5 15:11:32 localhost chat[543]: ^M
Mar 5 15:11:50 localhost chat[543]: ATDT7624321^M^M
Mar 5 15:11:50 localhost chat[543]: CONNECT
Mar 5 15:11:50 localhost chat[543]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:11:50 localhost chat[543]: send (^M)
Mar 5 15:11:50 localhost chat[543]: expect (ogin:)
Mar 5 15:11:50 localhost chat[543]: 115200^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: Welcome to the Eugene Free community
Network.^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: You are on Port controller umpqua port
20 in our new digital modem bank.^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: For new accounts type 'guest', or call
484-9637^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: ^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: ^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: Please login:
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: send (Pdaleh^M)
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: expect (ord:)
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: ^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: Please login:Pdaleh^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: Password:
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: send (b,xRt;^M)
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: timeout set to 5 seconds
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: expect (~)
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: ^M
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: PPP session from (206.163.184.196) to
206.163.180.208 beginning....~
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost chat[543]: send (^M)
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost pppd[531]: Serial connection established.
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost pppd[531]: Using interface ppp0
Mar 5 15:11:52 localhost pppd[531]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Mar 5 15:11:53 localhost pppd[531]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Mar 5 15:11:54 localhost pppd[531]: Connection terminated.
Mar 5 15:11:54 localhost pppd[531]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Mar 5 15:11:54 localhost pppd[531]: Exit.
Mar 5 15:11:57 localhost modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108
Mar 5 15:11:57 localhost ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS1 at
115200
Mar 5 15:11:57 localhost pppd[544]: pppd 2.3.10 started by root, uid 0
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: abort on (BUSY)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: abort on (ERROR)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: abort on (Invalid Login)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: abort on (Login incorrect)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: send (ATZ^M)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: expect (OK)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: ATZ^M^M
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: OK
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: send (ATDT7624321^M)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: expect (CONNECT)
Mar 5 15:11:58 localhost chat[553]: ^M
Mar 5 15:12:18 localhost chat[553]: ATDT7624321^M^M
Mar 5 15:12:18 localhost chat[553]: CONNECT
Mar 5 15:12:18 localhost chat[553]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:12:18 localhost chat[553]: send (^M)
Mar 5 15:12:18 localhost chat[553]: expect (ogin:)
Mar 5 15:12:18 localhost chat[553]: 115200^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: Welcome to the Eugene Free Community
Network.^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: You are on port controller deschutes
in our new digital modem bank.^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: For new accounts log in as guest with
no password or call 484-9637.^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: ^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: ^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: Please login:
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: send (Pdaleh^M)
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: expect (ord:)
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: ^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: Please login: Pdaleh^M
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: Password:
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: send (b,xRt;^M)
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: timeout set to 5 seconds
Mar 5 15:12:20 localhost chat[553]: expect (~)
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost chat[553]: ^M
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost chat[553]: PPP session from (206.163.184.197) to
206.163.181.52 beginning....~
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost chat[553]: -- got it
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost chat[553]: send (^M)
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost pppd[544]: Serial connection established.
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost pppd[544]: Using interface ppp0
Mar 5 15:12:21 localhost pppd[544]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Mar 5 15:12:24 localhost kernel: PPP BSD Compression module registered
Mar 5 15:12:24 localhost kernel: PPP Deflate Compression module registered
Mar 5 15:12:24 localhost pppd[544]: local IP address 206.163.181.52
Mar 5 15:12:24 localhost pppd[544]: remote IP address 206.163.184.197
Mar 5 15:12:24 localhost pppd[544]: primary DNS address 192.168.37.186
Mar 5 15:12:24 localhost pppd[544]: secondary DNS address 128.223.32.35
Mar 5 15:31:46 localhost pppd[544]: Terminating on signal 15.
Mar 5 15:31:46 localhost pppd[544]: Connection terminated.
Mar 5 15:31:46 localhost pppd[544]: Connect time 19.5 minutes.
Mar 5 15:31:46 localhost pppd[544]: Sent 2318 bytes, received 2221 bytes.
Mar 5 15:31:47 localhost pppd[544]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Mar 5 15:31:47 localhost pppd[544]: Exit.
All insights appreciated.
Dale Huckeby
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From: Paul Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing mailing labels?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 03:44:23 -0500
Thanks, Bob, for the latex suggestion. I'm taking a look at it but I
think I may follow Brian's approach-- I don't know why I didn't
think of doing plain text! Probably because when I did the previous
postcards I had to figure out how to print in "landscape" mode and
enscript did the job...
So thanks for the reply, Brian. (though I may end up using my
current preferred scripting language instead... you know, the other
one that starts with P. OK, so python rules, there, I said it.)
--Paul
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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Awe64 PCI?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 10:02:34 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bo B wrote:
>
> Is there a SB Awe64 PCI version on the market? (ES1371 chip??)
IMHO yes.
And it is supported, at least I have tested it under SuSE Linux
(IIRC)...
PM
--
Sylt, SuSE Linux, Maerklin mini-club, Psion Serie 5mx Pro & GPS:
http://www.philipp-maier.de
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From: Frank Herlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WWW: WhatWeNeed.de - The Linux app wishing well
Date: 6 Mar 2000 10:47:25 +0100
The Linux app wishing well at http://WhatWeNeed.de is a central
repository for ideas and requested new linux applications.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Achim Schupeta)
Subject: Re: how to create screen shot in Linux
Date: 6 Mar 2000 10:04:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there any screen shot software for Linux? I have checked it in CNET in
> "Download", they are for Windows or Apple.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Try 'man xwd':
xwd - dump an image of an X window
...
--
=====
Achim Schupeta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] |s |d &|m | software design & management AG
Tel: (+49 89) 63812-470 | | | | Thomas-Dehler-Str. 27
Fax: (+49 89) 63812-220 | | | | 81737 Muenchen, Germany
http://www.sdm.de
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From: "Alexander Elsholz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where is the sendfax-client
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:39:25 +0100
Hi,
I'm looking for the hylafax-client sendfax. In which packege could I find
this???
Thanks for response
alex
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)
Subject: Re: how to create screen shot in Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 Mar 2000 05:40:02 -0500
Re: xwd.
It used to work nicely on my box about one year ago.
Now it is giving me very dark images. Does
anyone know what the problem is? I am still
using the same system; red hat 6.0.
On 6 Mar 2000 10:04:07 GMT, Achim Schupeta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Is there any screen shot software for Linux? I have checked it in CNET in
>> "Download", they are for Windows or Apple.
>>
>> --
>> Posted via CNET Help.com
>> http://www.help.com/
>
>Try 'man xwd':
>xwd - dump an image of an X window
>...
>
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From: Martin Schichl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.system
Subject: Problems with directory listings on ZIP-Drive
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 11:56:42 +0100
Hi!
I have problems using my internal iomega ZIP-Drive
(250MB, ATAPI)
When mounting a just newly (DOS-)formatted Zip-Disk in my ZIP-drive
the contents of the previosly mounted Zip-Disk shows up, and I have no
chance,
to get something on the Disk ....
... in other words: Linux remembers the content of the first Zip-Disk
ever mounted on
the box ... and does not refresh :-(((
my entry in /etc/fstab:
/dev/hdb4 /zip-drive vfat
noauto,rw,users,nosuid,sync,mode=0777 0 0
Anyone got similar problem anfd has a solution??
Martin
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 21:57:54 +1100
From: System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Date and Time of Linux Server
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
a long time ago Nostradamus predicted a dickhead called Browne would swoop
on this news server
<br>
<p>Christopher Browne wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<br>would say:
<br>>The date and time on my Linux server is wrong and all e-mail is stamped
<br>>incorrectly. How do I change the time on Redhat Linux 6.0? Thanks.
<p># man clock
<br># man hwclock
<br># man date
<br>will all provide documentation relevant to setting your clock by hand.
<p>It may be an interesting idea to install ntp, which is available as
a
<br>Red Hat Linux package:
<p><<a
href="http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/ntp-4.0.98a-1.i386.html">http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/ntp-4.0.98a-1.i386.html</a>>
<p>ntpdate, part of this package, allows you to set the date on your
<br>computer via querying time servers on the Internet, which gives Rather
<br>Good Results. ntpdc, the time server daemon, will keep your computer
<br>synchronized against other time servers, thus allowing you to sync
a
<br>whole network of computers.
<br>--
<br>"Intel: Putting the `backward' in `backward compatability'"
<br>[EMAIL PROTECTED] - - <<a
href="http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/ipmiscprotocols.html">http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/ipmiscprotocols.html</a>></blockquote>
</html>
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From: Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to create screen shot in Linux
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 11:18:41 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Achim Schupeta wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Is there any screen shot software for Linux? I have checked it in CNET in
> > "Download", they are for Windows or Apple.
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
>
> Try 'man xwd':
> xwd - dump an image of an X window
Or look at Gimp (File | Acquire)
Gruss / Regards,
Henrik Becker
--
Henrik Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.HenrikBecker.de
Becker IT-Dienstleistungen - IT-Beratung, WebDesign/Organisation, Schulung
support FREE SOFTWARE www.KDE.org www.WINDOWMAKER.org www.LINUX.org
dt. J-Pilot Handbuch fertig: http://www.henrikbecker.de/jpilot
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 22:00:29 +1100
From: System Administrator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: httpd: cannot determine the IP address of........
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
open the http.conf file
<br>search for servername
<br>un hash the comment and place your server name ip or localhost
in there
<br>then restart apache
<br>all will be well grasshopper
<br>
<p>Paul G wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>This is the line in my Win98 Hosts file
<p>89.0.0.17
myserver
# Apache server
<p>Still no work, me no understand
<p>In article <38bd45ae$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian & Bridget
<br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
<br>>Err .. You'll need the lookup in your Win98 hosts file
<br>> $WindozeDir\Drivers\Etc\hosts I think - do a search for the file).
<br>>
<br>>Having it in your Linux /etc/hosts is good for anything originating
from
<br>>theLinux machine, which your browser is not.
<br>>
<br>>I think.
<br>>
<br>>BT.
<br>>
<br>>Paul G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<br>><a
href="news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>...
<br>>> "httpd: cannot determine the IP address of the specified ServerName
<br>>> (server).
<br>>> hp = 0!: Connection timed out"
<br>>>
<br>>> Would anyone have any pointers to why I cannot browse from the Win98
<br>>> box? I have the line
<br>>>
<br>>> 89.0.0.17 myserver
apacheserver
<br>>>
<br>>> in my etc/hosts file (exact syntax).
<br>>>
<br>>> Any ideas very welcome.
<br>>>
<br>>> Many thanks.
<br>>> --
<br>>> Paul G
<br>>
<br>>
<p>--
<br>Paul G</blockquote>
</html>
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 12:25:03 +0100
From: Markus Pietrek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Startup Programs
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:04:58 +1100, Roddy <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> shouted forth into the ether:
> >
> >I'm already running x (inittab runlevel 5) but i'd like to be able to control
> >programs to start automatically after x. e.g i'd like to have an xterm start
> >automatically upon login.
>
> Edit ~/.xinitrc ... or if you're running KDE or GNOME, there's an
> "Autostart" directory in ~/Desktop where you can put a shell script that
> will get started automatically upon the start of KDE or GNOME. HTH,
There is also ~/.xsession, which is used instead of .xinitrc if you
are logging in with xdm (i guess).
I have symlinked it to ~/.xinitrc
--
Markus Pietrek
Tel: +49-761-473099
Fax: +49-761-441063
Web: http://www.concept.de
Concept Engineering GmbH
Burkheimer Strasse 10
D-79111 Freiburg/Germany
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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 12:33:01 +0100
From: Markus Pietrek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: X-Forward to many X-Servers
Timo Benk wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi,
>
> I want to forward one x-program to all X-Servers. I tried setting the
> DISPLAY Variable to my browdcast address (192.168.0.255), but that way
> it doesn't work.
> So anyone knows a nice tool to do that, maybe like MasterEye for Windows?
I guess this is very difficult to handle in X because of the various IDs.
But try "http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/" for a fake x server
--
Markus Pietrek
Tel: +49-761-473099
Fax: +49-761-441063
Web: http://www.concept.de
Concept Engineering GmbH
Burkheimer Strasse 10
D-79111 Freiburg/Germany
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Arseneau)
Subject: Backup tools / old bru ?
Date: 6 Mar 2000 03:35 PST
I've been using bru for backups, but after updating libraries it stopped
working (segfault). I see that my copy is dated from the original Redhat
5.1 install, and hasn't been updated. Seems I've been caught in the
closed-source trap! Without sources I can't recompile.
Is bru really commercial/closed source? Does anyone have experience
keeping an old version running? I tried installing old libraries
in parallel, and had to boot from a rescue disk to recover.
How about recommendations for a replacement? Am I stuck with tar
and dump?
Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: User Shutdown
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 00 11:38:16 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Timo Benk
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>how can I let a user shutdown the Computer from the Console? Shutdown,
>halt, etc. sais that only root can do that.
With the sudo command you can give certain users permission to run certain
commands, both specified in the /etc/sudoers file. This is much more save than
use the setuid bit for the shutdown program, and in my opinion more elegant
than using ctrl+alt+delete. (Y can assign button to it in your window manager
if you want).
Martijn
__________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: rpm and source packages
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 00 11:41:31 GMT
When I compile and install some packages myself, rpm does not know about them,
so when I delete the older versions (with rpm), rpm complains about missing
depencies. Is there a way to let rpm know about the new packages, for
instance, make the rpm database be rebuild?
Thanks,
Martijn
__________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Backup tools / old bru ?
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 00 11:43:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donald Arseneau)
wrote:
>Is bru really commercial/closed source? Does anyone have experience
>keeping an old version running? I tried installing old libraries
>in parallel, and had to boot from a rescue disk to recover.
>
>How about recommendations for a replacement? Am I stuck with tar
>and dump?
Try afio in combination with tob. Whether you like it depends on the reason
why you ar stuck with tar.
__________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Julio C. Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Salary?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2000 11:48:21 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a suggestion. Of course find out what you can about the
> market, but then when you go into salary negotiations say "Look, I'd
> like you to help me figure this out. I think I'll really like working
> here and don't want to settle for something too low and then have to
> jump ship just to get what I'm worth."
Good point!! hehe.. :) I'll get this for my own fight if it's not
copyrighted! :-D
> They'll get the point.
Sure, or they'll regret it.
--
Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)
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