Linux-Misc Digest #835, Volume #23               Mon, 13 Mar 00 12:13:06 EST

Contents:
  making ppp redial ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Slackware, Dell, and HP 722 Deskjet (mircea)
  Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard... ("J Neveau")
  Incompatibility of GTK+1.2.7 and Glibc 2.0? (Stephen Cornell)
  cut and paste (Andrew Neiderer)
  Re: depmod: unresolved symbol(s) ("Paul J. Lucas")
  Re: How can I seamlessly change a desktop (Dances With Crows)
  Re: C++ in Linux (James Silverton)
  ALSA sound driver noisy? (Craig Drummond)
  Re: env vars help! (Aron Felix Gurski)
  Re: C++ in Linux (a correction) (James Silverton)
  Tar - GZIP (Dav)
  Re: can't download rpms (Leonard Evens)
  proxy server problem with Netscape 4.72 (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Want: Port scanning reporting software (Leonard Evens)
  Re: Tar - GZIP ("David ..")
  EFM installation (Masoud Pajoh)
  Canon BJC 3000 and ghostscript? (default)
  crond resetting? (Ken Williams)
  Re: How can I seamlessly change a desktop (Steve)
  Re: can't download rpms (Steve)
  Re: Installing Apps (Steve)
  Re: crond resetting? (Jan Schaumann)
  Re: /dev/audio over nfs? (Charles Blackburn)
  GNU "as" and "ld" not supported for X 4.0 build? (Minko Markov)
  video player ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Help please, boot broblem ("/Christophe")
  Database "viewer" for Linux? ("Charles Sullivan")
  Re: Installing Apps (Bob Tennent)
  Re: MatLab (or similar) for Linux? (Johannes Nix)
  mgetty + ISDN (Tim De Vos)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: making ppp redial
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:01:07 GMT

Hello!

I've got a ton of replies for asking how my scripts can know when Linux
has established a connection... I'm going try the /etc/ppp/ip-up
approach. I'd like to know now if there is a script I could use under
Linux Mandrake (I know it isn't the real thing but I broke my Slackware
CD set!) that will make ppp redial when it gets a busy signal or no
answer. Could you give me a hint? Oh, and thanks for the great advice!
:)


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From: mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slackware, Dell, and HP 722 Deskjet
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:23:27 -0500

Steve Gage wrote:
> (..)
> > On a side note, I also have a SCSI Iomega Zip drive on an Adaptec 2920
> > card which is seen on probe, but am having problems mounting Zip disks
> > as filesystems.  The disks are DOS, but mount /dev/sda /zip will
> > successfully mount the disk, though the drive will be activated.
> > mount -t msdos /dev/sda /zip will prompt back a message of wrong file
> > system, etc.  Any help here would also be appreciated.
> >

It should be:
mount -t [msdos/vfat] /dev/sda4 /zip
                      ^^^^^^^^^
...because of the way zips are formatted.

MST

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From: "J Neveau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardawe,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Suggestions for SMP motherboard...
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 14:31:10 GMT

Jim,

I also have an Abit BP6 w/ duel Celeron 400mhz.  It runs great.  I have had
the board up and running for the last six months without a problem.

I purchased my board with the processors installed for $259.00 from
tccomputers.com......it was a special sale, so I dont know if the price is
still the same.  Best of luck!



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"Killing Evil 0013" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jim Morrissey wrote:
>
> > Anyone have suggestions for purchasing a dual to quad processor (any
> > speed..$$ are important) motherboard that is comaptible with RH 6.0 or
> > greater??? Thanks,
> >
> >     -Jim
>
> NO abit BP6. It looks cool, a dual-Celeron-board for less than $150, but
the
> board SUCKS! It's unreliable and not suitable for computers that really
need
> SMP (servers and stuff). Every other smp-board with pci-bus must work. The
> only thing you need is a kernel >v2.2. Red Hat 6.0 uses 2.2.5, so that
must
> be no problem.....
>
> Bart
>



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From: Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Incompatibility of GTK+1.2.7 and Glibc 2.0?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 14:40:25 +0000

I was hoping to install the latest gftp, which allows file transfer
via SSH, onto my laptop (RH 5.2 + updates, kernel 2.0.38) .  However,
I discovered that it requires a more recent version of the gtk+
package.  Unfortunately, all the gtk+ RPM's I could find refused to
install, complaining that they required glibc 2.1, whereas I still
have glibc 2.0.

I really don't want to have to upgrade my glibc, because it will
almost certainly break compatibility with other components of my
system.  I know that glibc 2.0 was not meant to be a production
release, but my laptop runs fine as it is, and I would really prefer
not to risk breaking it.  However, I don't want to simply install gkt+
from a tarball; I'm quite happy having non-rpm-installed software in
/usr/local, but I want to keep all libraries in the RPM database,
otherwise managing the system is likely to become a nightmare.

So what should I do?  Should I attempt to rebuild the RPM package of
GTK+ from the .srpm file?  I've compiled many packages from tarballs,
but never used rpm --rebuild, so I'm unsure of the steps.  In any
case, I'm guessing that this won't help - I suspect the reason for the
problem is incompatibility of the latest gtk+ with the older pthreads
library.  Can anyone shed any light on this?

--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Neiderer )
Subject: cut and paste
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 13:39:18 GMT


I am using SuSE 6.1 Linux with twm (Tom's Window Manager)
on a Dell XPS 233.

I can't get the cut (mouse button 1) and paste (mouse button 2)
to work.  I have a M$ Intellimouse 3 button where the second
button can also be used for scrolling.

Do I need to edit or generate some file ?  And what would the
entry look like ?

Thanks.

- Andy Neiderer
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PS Respond to me directly as I don't read this newsgroup
regularly (maybe I should :-)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: depmod: unresolved symbol(s)
From: "Paul J. Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 13 Mar 2000 15:23:05 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David .." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Could it be reading the /etc/conf.modules file and causing the error?

        I have no such file.  I believe it's optional; hence it's using
        the defaults that, according to the manpage, seem correct.

>Get Acquainted with Linux Security and Optimization System
>Author: Gerhard Mourani

>http://www.linuxdoc.org/docs.html#guide

        THe only information there that seemed potentially useful is the
        MAKEDEV step; however, after running it in nuupdate mode to see
        what it would do, it doesn't seem like it does anything useful.

        - Paul

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: How can I seamlessly change a desktop
Date: 13 Mar 2000 10:28:09 EST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:30:08 GMT, 
linuxidiot <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>i might be missing something, but i would like to change to something more 
>interesting

Yep, desktops are pass�; you want a nifty 3D environment like xcruise as
your primary GUI :-)

Seriously, you didn't provide enough information for anyone to do anything
with.  Which window manager/desktop environment are you using?  If you're
using KDE, changing wallpaper/themes on the desktop is as easy as clicking
on the "KDE Control Center" icon at the bottom of the screen and selecting
the "Desktop" button.  GNOME is similar.  http://www.themes.org has a lot
of interesting things you can do with your desktop available.

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There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: C++ in Linux
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:27:41 -0500

Rob Wehrli wrote:
> 
> James Silverton wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> 
> Use g++ not gcc.  g++ invokes the "C++ handling features" of the compiler
> and related libraries.
> 
> /********************************
> using namespace std;
> #include <iostream>
> int main()
> {
>   cout << "Hello, World!\n" << endl;
>   return 0;
> }
>  *******************************/
> 
> bash-2.03$ g++ -o hello hello.C
> bash-2.03$ ./hello
> Hello, World!

Rob:

Thank you very much indeed! I did misunderstand the man page for gcc, I
guess. I had assumed that the capital C terminator on the file name
would do all that was necessary. The C++ compiler is invoked but, as you
say, g++ invokes the C++ handling features while gcc does not. In fact
hello.C compiles without comments and runs.

This is hello.C
================================================================
#include <iostream>

int main()
{
        cout << "Hello, world!\n";
        return 0;
================================================================

$ g++ -o hello hello.C 

works without messages and hello runs as expected!

The previously suggested namespace and std modifications are not
necessary and, in fact, my attempts to use them lead to a flock of error
messages that I am disinclined to investigate at the moment.

I have ordered Tom Swan's book, "Tom Swan's GNU C++ for Linux", from
Amazon (which has much the best price) since, in addition to yourself,
the reviews are very enthusiastic.

Again, my thanks and best wishes,

Jim.
-- 
James V.  Silverton
Potomac, Maryland.

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Subject: ALSA sound driver noisy?
From: Craig Drummond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:33:13 -0800

Hello,

I'm using the ALSA (v0.52) cs461x sound driver, and whenver I
play an MP3 using either xmms, kmp3, mpg123, alsaplayer, etc. I
get a noise burst sometimes when the program reads some MP3 data
from the disk. Has anybody else experienced this - if so ho do I
fix this as it's very annoying.


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From: Aron Felix Gurski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: env vars help!
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:43:05 GMT

Mike, L wrote:
> 
> I'm having trouble defining (& seeing) any environment variables in my shell scripts 
>(bash).
> 
> First, if as the first line of the script I put:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> then I get the error:
> bash: ./setenv No such file or directory
> 
> If I leave that line out, then my script(s) seem to run ok. However, any variables 
>that I define won't export.
> 
> Neither am I able to call one shell script from another. (I'm always getting the 
>same error as above.)
> 
> I've tried defining the variable & then exporting it or even defining & exporting on 
>the same line. Nothing seems to
> work!

Try using

        #!/bin/sh

instead. On many (most? all?) Linux systems, /bin/sh is a link to /bin/bash.
That is certainly true on my systems, and I have no problem exporting
environment variables. Bash works a bit differently if it is invoked as sh.

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From: James Silverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: C++ in Linux (a correction)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:44:17 -0500

James Silverton wrote:
> 
> Rob Wehrli wrote:
> >
> > James Silverton wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
...........Deletions..............
> The previously suggested namespace and std modifications are not
> necessary and, in fact, my attempts to use them lead to a flock of error
> messages that I am disinclined to investigate at the moment.
...........Deletions..................

Rob and everyone:

Please ignore my comment about a flock of error messages. The program
with namespace and std works perfectly if I just copy the posted program
rather than relying on my typing.

Best wishes,

Jim.

-- 
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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From: Dav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tar - GZIP
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:31:52 GMT

Hello all, 
Just a super newbie Q for anyone who can spare the time...
I have a file that tar doesnt want to work on, or so it seems
its the ksh-5.2.14.tar.gz
i tried tar xvf ksh-5.2.14.tar.gz
as well as tar xvz ksh-5.2.14.tar.gz
nothing works....please help!

Jav

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't download rpms
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:39:40 -0600

Kevin Paul wrote:
> 
> I'm having the weirdest problem.  I cannot download about 2/3 rpm's
> that I try to.  Doesn't matter from where, doesn't matter what ftp client I use.
> Some rpm's hang at about 20-40k.  It's happened with numerous packages
> over the last couple of months.  Any help is appreciated.
> 
> Kevin Paul

It could have something to do with your internet connection.
What type of connection are you using.   Also, do you set your
transfer to be binary?

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Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: proxy server problem with Netscape 4.72
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:35:52 -0600

I recently upgraded to Netscape 4.72.  I am running RedHat
6.1, and the package is 4.72-6.   Now when I set the browser
for automatic proxy using the pproxy server at my university,
I get multiple authentication windows under some circumstances.
I don't remember seeing this with Netscape 4.7, and the
university tells me they haven't made any changes in how
the proxy server works for months.

Has anyone else noticed anything of this nature?

Is there another newsgroup for which this request would be
more appropriate?

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Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Want: Port scanning reporting software
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:42:00 -0600

Bob Tennent wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:33:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  >
>  >I would really like to get notifications when I am being probed/port
>  >scanned.   What software do people recommend I use for this?   I want it
>  >to be stealth/passive.
>  >
> http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry/
> 
> Bob T.

I got portsentry, but it looked as if I would have to do some work
to figure out how to use it.  Can you either give me or refer me
to some simplified default instructions?

-- 

Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tar - GZIP
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:58:07 -0600


        tar xzvf ksh-5.2.14.tar.gz

Must be in the directory where the file is.

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Subject: EFM installation
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Masoud Pajoh)
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:02 

Hi;
I tried to install EFM, downloaded from enlightement site, installation
of imlib2 goes fine. but whren I try to install EFM, as per instructions
on the site, I cannot find the 'make' command in the expanded download.

As you can guess I am a newbie.  What am I missing?

Any suggestion is appreciated.

Thanks;
Masoud

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From: default <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Canon BJC 3000 and ghostscript?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:11:41 +0100

Has somebody got information about the compatibilty of the new Canon BJC
3000 bubble jet printer? Is there anybody who has got one and can tell
me if it works with Linux or if it is a paperweight?

Any information appreciated,

Jens Ritter


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: crond resetting?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 15:51:29 GMT

If I change roots crontab, do I need to do a kill -HUP <crond pid> of does it 
see the changes right away?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: How can I seamlessly change a desktop
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:12:32 GMT

On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 06:30:08 GMT, linuxidiot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i might be missing something, but i would like to change to something more 
>interesting

If you're using Gnome right click and hold down the mouse on the current 
desktop background, a menu appears and for me 'configure background image'
is the bottom option on that menu.  When the window opens up, just brows
to the image that you want then click ok. 

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%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: can't download rpms
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:12:33 GMT

On 13 Mar 2000 00:33:36 GMT, Kevin Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm having the weirdest problem.  I cannot download about 2/3 rpm's 
>that I try to.  Doesn't matter from where, doesn't matter what ftp client I use.
>Some rpm's hang at about 20-40k.  It's happened with numerous packages
>over the last couple of months.  Any help is appreciated.

More info on what your using and how you're doing it would be good.

Does this happen with every type of file or just RPMs?

Try FTPing from the comand line and see if the same happens. 

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%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee  0 pps. 

web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/

or  http://start.at/zero-pps

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: Installing Apps
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:12:33 GMT


>Jonathan Allen wrote:
>> 
>> I'm pretty neew to linux, and whenever i try to install RPMs, i select say
>> the games and apps i want, but the package manager keeps telling me that
>> there's hundreds of depencdancies.  I try to find all the other dependant
>> packages, but it's next to impossible.  Isn't there some way to just have
>> it install all dependant packages?

These are error messages telling you that some files already exist and are 
required by other programs.  

There is a way round this, the RPM pachage has options to do almost anything
you want, you can remove the dependencies (if you're going to replace them)
or ignore dependencies and things like that.  

Type 

$ man rpm

This will give you the RPM man page, read and enjoy.  

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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: crond resetting?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:17:27 -0500

Ken Williams wrote:
> 
> If I change roots crontab, do I need to do a kill -HUP <crond pid> of does it
> see the changes right away?

If you change the crontab by using "crontab -e", it updates the
cron-daemon itself.

-Jan

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things so tasty?

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                   Brush With Greatness

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Blackburn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: /dev/audio over nfs?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:46:18 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:32:53 -0600, Jeff Dillon wrote:
>> I want to send audio over my network. Does anyone know more about this?
>> 

silly question, but put the soundcard in the other machine. :)

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Subject: GNU "as" and "ld" not supported for X 4.0 build?
From: Minko Markov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:28:43 GMT

Hello,

Did anyone compile X 4.0 successfully?

My compilation failed.  make World just froze
at one moment and stayed like that for hours.
I have RH 6.0.

In the build instructions, they say
        '2.6.2          Use of GNU BinUtils *as* and *ld*
         is not supported -- period! If you have them
         installed on your system, you must rename them
         or remove them for the duration of the R6.4 build'
Well, I renamed them, but the build would not
start at all. When I restored the names, the
build started and froze in several minutes.

What bin utils did you use? How can I get as & ld
that are not GNU's?

The same question for make. They advise "If you have replaced
your system's make with GNU make, we recommend you restore
the system make for the duration of your R6.4 build."

Thanks a lot,
Minko

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: video player
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:46:43 -0500

Hello

I didn't find any good video player. Do you know
a good one which plays all kind of avi, mov, mpeg ?

Thanks.

Sacha

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From: "/Christophe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help please, boot broblem
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 17:38:04 +0100

Hi,

Finally, I could have my 2 UDMA HD to work with RedHat (6.2 , because it
includes support for my video card). But, unfortunatly, I'm still facing a
problem:
2 Hard disks:

- HD1 (ide3 according to the mother board, ide2 according to Linux; Master):
Primary: Win 98
Primary: Win NT
Primary: Backup
Extended: several FAT16 and one FAT32

HD2 (ide4 according to the mother board, ide3 according to Linux; Master):
Primary: /
Extended: /usr; /home; SWAP
This disk is dedicated to Linux. During the install (Custom), I installed
LILO on the first partition, not on the MBR.

I'm using Partition Magic to boot (more accuratly, I'm using BootMagic,
installed on HD1) which works perfectly with 98 and NT. So, I added Linux.

The problem: I can't boot Linux: when I choose Linux within BootMagic,
nothing happens :-((. It just displays something like "Launching Linux" and
doesn't do
anything else. If I want to run Linux, I need to boot on a floppy, which is
not an acceptable solution.

Did I miss something ? Can this configuration work ?

Many thanks in advance for any clue/solution.
PS: I would prefer to keep BootMagic instead of Lilo.

/Christophe





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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Database "viewer" for Linux?
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:40:45 -0500

I have a number of historical databases saved in 
comma-delimited ASCII format which I'd like to be
able to view under X in a spreadsheet type display.

I'd like to be able to sort by one or more columns,
perform string search on a particular column, or just 
scroll through the entire database.  I don't need any
capability for modifying the databases.  (Any minor
corrections can be made to the ASCII file.) 

Some of these databases contain several hundred thousand
entries and are tens of Megs in size as the ASCII file.

So far I've been making do with vi, grep, sort, etc., 
but am looking for something a little more convenient.
I tried the Star Office spreadsheet, but that is limited
to 32,000 entries, and as I recall wouldn't directly
accept a comma-delimited ASCII file as input.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Something free or very
low cost would be nice.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan   [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: Installing Apps
Date: 13 Mar 2000 16:34:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 11 Mar 2000 05:30:16 GMT, Jonathan Allen wrote:
 >I'm pretty neew to linux, and whenever i try to install RPMs, i select say 
 >the games and apps i want, but the package manager keeps telling me that 
 >there's hundreds of depencdancies.  I try to find all the other dependant 
 >packages, but it's next to impossible.  Isn't there some way to just have 
 >it install all dependant packages?
 >
Hundreds of dependencies?  This suggests to me that your basic system
wasn't installed using rpm.  The rpm package manager maintains a data base
of packages installed and the resources they provide; it doesn't search for
resources it didn't itself install.  If your installation wasn't
set up using rpm, you'll find rpm a pain to use.  Either change to an
rpm-based distribution or use another approach to package management.

Bob T.

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From: Johannes Nix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MatLab (or similar) for Linux?
Date: 13 Mar 2000 17:45:36 +0100

Po-Tai Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, folks,
> 
> I am looking something like MatLab for my Linux box. Can anyone share
> his/her experiences? Thanks.
> 

There exists Matlab for Linux, but the licenses seem to be a bit
expensive. Octave is Matlab syntax-compatible, but has weaker
graphics.  Mupad could be interesting. IIRC it has some algebra
capabilities.

However, in my humble opinion presently the most interesting language
for the area Matlab is currently most used seems to be Numerical
Python, an extension to the Python script langugage.


It has the following features:

- It is NOT Matlab compatible

- It is a REAL programming language

- it is free software

- it has fast vector and signal processing operations

- It has object-oriented features, and is in many aspects similar to
  modern languages like C++, Delphi, Modula-3, Java

- it is very easy to learn, I would say easier than any language
  mentioned above and much more logical and expressive than Matlab.

- it has a _huge_ standard library with very good OS and Multimedia
  support, and GUI libraries

- it supports powerful numerical standard libraries like BLAS, LAPACK
  and FFTW

- it is platform independent, that means, runs on many Unices, Linux
  on the Alpha, Windows NT, MacOS

- it supports graphics libraries like pgplot and a
platform-independent, powerful graphics library with 3D graphic
support is being developed.

- it supports concurrent threads of execution and symmetric
multiprocessing

- it is quite easy to implement fast C extension, once a bottleneck in
execution speed is identified. That means you can write your program
in script language and then make it faster until it meets your needs.

- it strongly encourages code sharing (and quite a few people are
doing this in fact)


<advocacy>

Because of this features, and especially the last mentioned, and its
rapid growth, I would guess that in few years it may become rightfully
the leading language in education, science and engineering.

</advocacy>

If you are interested, you should have a look in the tutorial in the
docs section at http://www.python.org. It explains the most features
in a quite comprensible and concise way. For specifically numeric /
graphics software, go to http://www.vex.net/parnassus/ and search for
the following issues ander "Math" and "graphics":

- Numerical Python      (vector / matrix arithmetics)
- Dislin                (scientific graphics package, free for Linux)
- Graphite              (platform-independent scientic graphics
                         package, under development)

regards,

Johannes

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From: Tim De Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: mgetty + ISDN
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:09:02 +0100

Hi,

I loaded my modemdriver (Hisax) for my Eicon Diva modem succesfully.
When I run mgetty on ttyI0 or ttyI1 I always get the kernel error
message (in /var/log/messages)

myserver mgetty[700]: failed dev=ttyI0, pid=700, got signal 15 exiting.

Somebody an idea?

I use Redhat 6.1 with mgetty and ISDN-utils installed

Thanks in advance for replying

Tim De Vos

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