Linux-Misc Digest #835, Volume #24 Fri, 16 Jun 00 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
hard drive error
how.... (Joseph Cohen)
Re: hard drive error (Akira Yamanita)
Re: how.... (Akira Yamanita)
Re: CPU cooler (David Steuber)
Re: ALSA: Where's the sound? (David Steuber)
Re: Pseudo terminals and PPP (Tim Morneau)
Re: Give me a general advice on X please. (Bob Hauck)
Re: Linux erased Windows!!!!!!!!!!!! ("Alexander Dymo")
using kde panel in gnome ("Kent A. Signorini")
StarOffice install RPM
gnome file manager question..please help ("Kent A. Signorini")
Re: Multiboot setup: advice needed ("Alexander Dymo")
ANN: "Spiritual Robots" Webcasts Online ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mounting as NTFS (Michael Kelly)
Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet? (David Steuber)
CGI script doesn't execute ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: StarOffice install RPM (Stu)
Re: Helix Gnome (Stu)
Re: Detaching users from /etc/passwd (Arnold Hendriks)
Re: grep ? extract part of BIG file (Stu)
Re: Upgrading from RH 6.0 ---> RH 6.2 (The Darkener)
GUI hex/scientific calculator anywhere? (Timur Tabi)
Using Linux as a fileserver? (George Walford)
Re: How Return to prompt login? (Floyd Davidson)
Re: auto shutdown problem (David Steuber)
Re: Blocking news servers? (David Steuber)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hard drive error
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:30:06 GMT
The problem is that my computer can't find my hard drive. I know nothing is wrong
with my harddrive. This started happening when I made a partition for linux. When I
enter "format c:" in the dos prompt, I get an error message stating "invalid drive."
Is there anyway I can get my computer to reckonize my hard drive again? Don't worry,
I'm not going to install linux again on that computer. I am going to install windows
98.
I would really appreciate your help,
Thanks,
dqv1987 .
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From: Joseph Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how....
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:30:20 GMT
i cant get windows back
i deleted all the partitions
i created a dos partition.
but lilo is half working so when it boots it says "LI" and just sits there.
help?
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: hard drive error
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:46:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> The problem is that my computer can't find my hard drive. I know
> nothing is wrong with my harddrive. This started happening when
> I made a partition for linux. When I enter "format c:" in the
> dos prompt, I get an error message stating "invalid drive." Is
> there anyway I can get my computer to reckonize my hard drive
> again? Don't worry, I'm not going to install linux again on that
> computer. I am going to install windows 98.
Delete all the partitions if you haven't done so. Then you need to
create a primary partition. Reboot and you'll have a C: drive that
you can format. Not having a C: drive has nothing to do with the
system not recognizing the drive. It just means you don't have a
partition that DOS/Windows recognizes.
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how....
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:47:12 GMT
Joseph Cohen wrote:
>
> i cant get windows back
> i deleted all the partitions
> i created a dos partition.
>
> but lilo is half working so when it boots it says "LI" and just sits there.
>
> help?
Use a boot disk with DOS/Windows fdisk on it.
fdisk /mbr
Before you removed Linux, you could've done "lilo -u" and saved
yourself the trouble.
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Subject: Re: CPU cooler
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:00:04 GMT
Fung Wai Keung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Hi,
'
' Is there any software CPU cooler for Linux that can slow the increasing
' rates of temperatures of CPU and motherboard?
If you are talking about Automatic Power Management, it exists in the
kernel provided you compile in the support. I think that may be for
portable computers though.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: ALSA: Where's the sound?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:00:04 GMT
I seem to be talking to myself a lot :-)
After going through the ALSA How-To, it seems that while the ES1879 is
supported, the support is poor. I don't understand why. Nor do I any
longer care. I found the magic incantations for make xconfig to
compile support into the kernel. I decided to screw the module method
and just put it in there.
Sound now works. I haven't tested MIDI or duplexity yet.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Tim Morneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Pseudo terminals and PPP
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:10:27 -0600
A newer term PPPoe would be VPN or Virtual Private Network that uses an
NAS or Network Access Server to control multiple PPP sessions. This is
a somewhat over simplified description but one that will serve for the
moment.
tim
jj the bouncing fish wrote:
>
> sounds like you want PPPoe (PPP over Ethernet). It is used by ADSL users
> in Ontario, Canada so bell can control their usage... I have had two
> streams running from the same computer before.
>
> I know there is source out there for it.
>
> good luck
>
> Craig Allan Jeffree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> > If anyone can offer some suggestions it would be a great help.
> >
> > Thanks for your advice
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Give me a general advice on X please.
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:07:45 GMT
On Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:03:25 -0700, The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My personal opinion is to get a different WM. I use BlackBox
I just started using it. I like it.
>It also supports native GNome/KDE apps (whatever that means).
To me it means that the little kbiff, kppp, and kpilot apps dock into
the Slit just the way they do on the KDE panel.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: "Alexander Dymo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux erased Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:13:08 +0300
Fredrik,
more information needed!
(i don't clearly understand, what means "erased windows98")
Possible causes after installing linux:
--mbr was rewritten
try to boot your computer with windows bootable diskette,
type
c:
dir /w
if you see your disk - all is OK
you can fix this problem by typing:
fdisk /mbr
sys a: c:
then reboot your system to get back to windows
(you must reinstall linux later properly!!!)
--while installing linux you have formatted your disk with windows
if so - I can't help you.
"fredrik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Help me please!
>
> When I installed linux it erased windows 98 on my computer.
> What can I do to get it back? I have a recovery disc but i cant use it
because I dont have c: it's called something else.
> Please help me is there any way I can do to get c: back insteed of /?
>
> Fredrik
>
>
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From: "Kent A. Signorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: using kde panel in gnome
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:22:17 GMT
Is it possible to run a KDE panel in a GNOME session? I have a KDE panel
app that I want to use, but I don't want to run KDE.
Unless someone knows of a good mailcheck for gnome that does more than one
account...
Please e-mail responses. Thank you.
Kent A. Signorini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: StarOffice install RPM
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:30:10 GMT
I'm new to using linux and I just installed Turbolinux 6.0 (2 days ago).
It comes with a companion CD that includes StarOffice. How do I install
this using the RPM they have given me. And better yet how does one
usually go about installing software in linux.
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From: "Kent A. Signorini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome file manager question..please help
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:32:10 GMT
When I double-click a .zip file using gnome file manager that was created
with Windows WinZip, the file manager "goes into" the file, but nothing
shows up. Much like if it were an unmounted file system.
Why is this? Is there a way around it? The gnome file manager must be
aware of .zip type files because it displays them with their own icon. I
can't find anything in the mime types or elsewhere to help me out.
Please respond via e-mail if possible. Thank you very much.
Kent A. Signorini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Alexander Dymo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Multiboot setup: advice needed
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:39:10 +0300
mmm..
20GB - FAT32
10GB - Linux EXT2
In this case your linux system will see all your disks (read and write)
Your Win98 and Win2k will share fat32 disk with no problems
(if you want, you can also split 20GB into smaller logical disks)
You should install
Windows98 onto the first 20GB disk
Linux onto the second 10GB disk (Lilo->MBR)
Windows2000 onto the first disk
Result
at boot time you should have
LILO:
(configure lilo to load windows on dev/hda1)
after typing windows you should have windows2000
boot manager (choosing win98 or win2k)
"Tan Min-Han" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear people,
>
> Previous experience with Linux minimal, but would be interested in
> learning some networking skills. Need some help re: making of
> decisions.
> Am currently setting up a multiboot system with Win 98SE, Win2k and
> Linux on following system - Athlon 700 Asus K7V mobo
> Maxtor 20.4 GB master
> Maxtor 10.2 GB slave.
>
> How would you personally partition the drives? I hear that Linux likes
> living on a drive by itself. Will there be problems in the paritioning
> between the FAT32 file system for Win 98SE and the NTFS system for Win
> 2k on the same drive?
>
> Thanks.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ANN: "Spiritual Robots" Webcasts Online
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:32:31 GMT
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on April 1, 2000, are now available online at Dr. Dobb's TechNetCast.
The meeting includes presentations by Doug Hofstadter, Ray Kurzweil,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: mounting as NTFS
Date: 16 Jun 2000 21:37:51 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Yao Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi, all,
>
> I need to rescue an NT SCSI HD and I was wondering about cooking up a
> ram-disk with SCSI and NTFS, mount /dev/sda1 as NTFS and replace a
> corrupted file. However, I noticed from menuconfig that NTFS read/write
> mode is new and DANGEROUS. I am wondering if anyone out there had any
> similar experience? how dangerous are we talking about here?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> --yao
>
I believe there are NT rescue disks on the web with
Linux kernels designed to mount the NT partition and
edit the registry so you can get in if you forgot the
admin password. You might be able to adapt one for
your purpose.
Just an idea.
--
Mike
--
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have *me* as a member!"
-- Groucho Marx
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1: is it fixed yet?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:00:00 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (kamborg) writes:
' Because there doesn't appear to be any other way to stop crond from reading
' the disk every 60 seconds, which it does to see whether its `crontab' has
' changed, and because there's no reason for a single-user desktop PC, w/o a
' permanent network connection, to be putting mechanical wear on the disk
' 24h/day. at is probably better for scheduling such a system anyway; does
' it suffer from the same compulsive behavior ? --`kamborg'
I think cron keeps each user's crontab in memory. Why else must you
use crontab -e to change it?
There are other services that hit the disk also. Updated/kflush is
one of them ( It synchronizes the cache with the physical files ). It
runs every few minutes according to a setting that was made during
boot up. You can find it in your boot scripts and lengthen that time
if you are comfortable with your UPS.
My laptop's disk will spool down eventually. I have it set to spool
down after 30 minutes of no access. I'll admit it deoesn't stay down
for long. But if it shut down every thirty seconds, then the machine
would be too damn slow :-(.
A little fine tuning, and you can minimize disk access for a machine
that is not being used.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CGI script doesn't execute
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:54:20 GMT
Hi,
I've tried days but my CGI script doesn't work. I have Apache V1.3 and
RedHat 6.2 and I
want to make it running with the scripts of OpenSales AllCommerce. I
tried different ways but instead of executing the script, the browser
display the script on the screen.
I am a newbie. Any help are very appreciated.
Here is my httpd.conf configuration (Section virtual host only):
<VirtualHost 192.168.0.1>
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DocumentRoot /home/httpd/os_allcommerce-1.0.1/
ServerName localhost
ErrorLog /var/log/httpd/error_log
TransferLog /var/log/httpd/transfer_log
AddHandler cgi-script .pl .cgi
AddType text/html .shtml
AddHandler server-parsed .shtml
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/os_allcommerce-1.0.1/cgi-bin/
#Allow access to the site
<Directory "/home/httpd/os_allcommerce-1.0.1/">
Options ExecCGI FollowSymlinks
AddHandler cgi-script .pl .cgi
AllowOverride all
Options Indexes Includes FollowSymlinks
Allow from all
</Directory>
#disallow access to the administrative portions of the site.
<DirectoryMatch
"/home/httpd/os_allcommerce-1.0.1/(DOCS|bits|conf|crons|data|...)">
Options None
Order deny,allow
deny from all
</DirectoryMatch>
</VirtualHost>
And here is one warning in my error_log file:
[Fri Jun 16 16:44:04: 2000] [error] [client 192.168.0.1] script not
found or unable to stat: /home/httpd/cgi-bin/om
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: StarOffice install RPM
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:18:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm new to using linux and I just installed Turbolinux 6.0 (2 days ago).
> It comes with a companion CD that includes StarOffice. How do I install
> this using the RPM they have given me. And better yet how does one
> usually go about installing software in linux.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
As root: rpm -ivh file.name.rpm
If it's a rpm, you use rpm -ivh (to install--rpm -Uvh to upgrade). If it's
something that came in a tarball, you need to read the README or INSTALL
file that is typically in the tarball itself.
Stu
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Helix Gnome
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:19:49 GMT
"David .." wrote:
> Will the helix-gnome installer update the gnome that is already
> installed on a system or install a new or second version? Anyone know?
>
> --
> Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> ID # 123538
I'm pretty sure it installs a new version, and gets rid of the old.
Stu
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From: Arnold Hendriks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Detaching users from /etc/passwd
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:30:22 GMT
Dirk Freese wrote:
> develop a frontend so that everyone who works with us can easily add new
> mail-users.
> I simply don't like the idea of everyone being able to run-owned
processes.
You could take a look at linuxconf. It has seperate menu sections
for managing POP users, and you can set up user accounts in linuxconf
that only have access to those settings.
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep ? extract part of BIG file
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:32:48 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> since I use 'midnight commander' to do all file and content searching
> and viewing, editing, I've not found it necessary to learn the 'acrobatic
> scripts' : grep etc.
>
> How would I:
> extract from a 80Mbyte file (basically a text file with some non ascii chars),
> the part starting from <string1> up until <string2> ?
>
> And if possible:
> starting N bytes/chars 'before' the first marker: <string1> ?
>
> Thanks also for answers also emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Chris Glur.
grep 'BEGINNING_PATTERN.*ENDING_PATTERN' file.name
The period (.) means any character and the asterisk (*) means zero or more
occurances of the preceeding character.
Stu
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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Upgrading from RH 6.0 ---> RH 6.2
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:33:47 -0700
> Phil Quiney CSIP Demonstrator
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nortel Networks,
> Telephone: +44 (1279) 402363 London Rd, Harlow,
> Fax: +44 (1279) 402885 Essex CM17 9NA,
> United Kingdom.
>
> "This message may contain information proprietary to Northern
> Telecom so any unauthorised disclosure, copying or distribution
> of its contents is strictly prohibited."
Oops, did I just do something strictly prohibited? =p~
Kinda like copyright infringement, huh... heh
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From: Timur Tabi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GUI hex/scientific calculator anywhere?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:42:56 GMT
Can someone point me to an RPM for a GUI hex and scientific calculator
that's compatible with RedHat 6.2? I've searched www.rpmfind.net, but I
can't find anything (RedHat's ftp servers are always busy, so I can't
download anything from there).
Frankly, before Linux can qualify as a good desktop OS, it should at
least have the same applets that every other desktop OS has.
--
Timur "too sexy for my code" Tabi
Remove "nospam_" from my email address when replying
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Walford)
Subject: Using Linux as a fileserver?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:52:35 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here at work we are currently using a Novell box as our fileserver. We
are considering moving over to Linux as most of our servers are Linux
based now.
We do have a concern however using Linux as a fileserver however:
Novell gives you the option of recovering a deleted file, if you
accidentaly destroyed an important file. (It also gives you a "purge"
option that lets you truly destroy the file.)
How would linux work in this environment? I know Linux can make an
excellent fileserver, but what happens if a file is deleted? AFAIK the
ext2fs does not take kindly to the restoration of deleted files. Any
solutions to this? Would a SAMBA based fileserver have a "undelete"
option? (all our clients are unfortunatly MS based.)
Thanks.
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Return to prompt login?
Date: 16 Jun 2000 13:57:32 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I creating a boot diskette from Slack 4.0 kernel 2.2.4, but
>now get the error "ERROR 0x10" at boot prompt when
>typing "mount root=/dev/hda".
Shouldn't that be a partition, not the whole disk?
mount root=/dev/hda4
Or whatever partition is appropriate.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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Subject: Re: auto shutdown problem
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:59:59 GMT
#R P JAYASANKA L PIYARATNA# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' I have a dual celeron 433 on bp6 and I am running redhat 6.2 with kernel
' version 2.2.15. I've compiled the kernel including the apm support, but
' I am not getting the auto shutdown feature working.
I built 2.2.16 for my laptop last night. Naturally I included APM
support. I think I saw a note about SMP systems not doing shutdown.
Or maybe that was system idle calls.
david@solo:> pwd
/usr/src/linux/Documentation
david@solo:> find . -type f -exec grep -il SMP {} \; | xargs grep -il APM
grep: ./kernel-docs.txt: Permission denied
grep: ./proc.txt: Permission denied
./devices.txt
./Configure.help
./kernel-parameters.txt
Some files to look at.
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David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Subject: Re: Blocking news servers?
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:00:00 GMT
The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Try using ipchains to block out entire IPs. Probably something like:
'
' ipchains -A input -s <newsgroupservername/ipaddress> -j DENY
'
' That probably isn't the exact context you would use (depending on your
' existing firewall), but I'm sure that ipchains can block specific
' hosts. Unless you're talking about specific newsgroups, which I don't
' think you can do.
You could with an NNTP proxy server. Has anyone written one?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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