Linux-Misc Digest #44, Volume #24                 Tue, 4 Apr 00 20:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: PCMCIA!!! (EKK)
  GSM Modem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Any email clients for Windows AND Linux ("Jamie Webb")
  Re: Vim and Vi (Hal Burgiss)
  Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW! (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: PCMCIA!!! (EKK)
  Re: Vim and Vi (Harlan Grove)
  Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  BOOKS ON LINUX ? (Luca Marchese)
  Re: Multiple CPU ("PJC")
  Re: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux (Harlan Grove)
  Re: X won't start, font error message, help! (Anthony)
  Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW! (Michael Kelly)
  look for duplicate files (peter pilsl)
  Re: Vim and Vi (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux (Michael Kelly)
  Re: Lockups ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: redhat 6.1 vs PostgreSql ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: bash special characters (Steve)
  Re: linux (kernel 2.3.44) and vfat32 (Dances With Crows)

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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:09:42 -0700

EKK wrote:
> 
> Does RedHat's site actually serve a purpose?
> 
> ...
> 
> Hello,
> 
> does the RH6.1 pcmcia-RHEA-1999:044.img boot image actually work?
> 
> it gives me a blank list of drivers to pick from when I boot from
> this image on my laptop!
> 
> the only other option is to try "linux supp" with
> RH6.0  which means I would first have to install RH6.0 and
> then upgrade to RH6.1.
> This also fails miserably.
> 
> The PCMCIA card I have is a 3Com589D, fully supported.
> 
> None of the combinations of commands suggested by RH on their site
> seems to work.
> 
> Please feedback anyone who has gotten this to actually work.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> AG
> --

what's really weird is that upon using pcmcia-RHEA-1999:044.img to
boot, the installation program only gives you the option to install
off a hard-drive.   ...hmm why would I use the pcmcia boot image then?

the bootnet image also gets me nowhere, it asks me for what type of
media contains the installation, NFS, FTP or HTTP, but it does NOT
ask me for a PCMCIA driver disk or anything of the sort.

So.....what is the pcmcia boot image for then?????

How on earth do you tell the install boot to accept some additional
drivers/modules/pcmcia stuff ?


AG
-- 


Alessandro Giachino,  Software Engineer

EKK Inc.
2065 West Maple C309        tel. 248-624-9957
Walled Lake MI 48390        fax. 248-624-7158
_____________________________________________
                        http://www.ekkinc.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GSM Modem
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:24:58 GMT

I'm trying to set up a GSM modem that will work both in the US and in
Europe.  The easiest way would be to have an external modem that
communicates through the serial port.  However, until now I've only
found such modems for Europe (i.e. 900 and 1800MHz).

The only triband option (900, 1800 and 1900MHz) are the PCMCIA cards
from Option.com.  However, they offer drivers only for Windows.

So, does anybody know of either a) a 1900MHz (US) GSM modem with a
serial (RS232) port or b) a Linux driver for one of the Option cards or
c) some other solution that I'm missing.

Thanks!

Dragos


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From: "Jamie Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:31:08 +0100

I triple-boot Linux, Win98, WinNT. I would like to be able to read and
download email in all of them. This means that I need an email client that
can use a folder on a shared partition for its mailstore and which will run
under Windows and Linux (or two compatible programs). Do any exist? I can't
be the only person in this position.

Thanks

-- Jamie Webb



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Vim and Vi
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:33:25 GMT

On 4 Apr 2000 20:01:43 GMT, Pete Holsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>brian moore ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: On 4 Apr 2000 18:48:17 GMT, 
>:  Pete Holsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: > Is vi in RedHat really vim? Is there no true vi in RedHat?
>: 
>: 'true vi' is owned by AT&T and no source is available.
>
>Good point! But RedHat names their program vi! Does
>everyone?

At one time I believe vi was a symlink to vim in Redhat. Now I see it
has its own package:

[hal@feenix hal]$ rpm -qf /bin/vi
vim-minimal-5.4-2

There is also a fullblown vim included, with most of the bells and
whistles.
 
>: 'nvi' is -close- to 'true' vi.  There should be rpms
>: available for it.


-- 
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW!
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:40:03 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Guzzo wrote:
>Help!
>I just installed the new RH6.2 and got it up running like a kitten here
>at work :-). One thing, I gave /usr and /usr/local about 850M. Well /usr
>now has only 14.18M left and the /usr/local has 806M left. How does one
>go about resizing the ext2 filesystem in Linux? There is still some
>PowerTools for 6.2 that I will like to install.

You might start with "what do I really need", although there is a
programme parted, see your local GNU mirror, which is supposed to
let you resize partitions in a non-destructive way.

Supposed might be expressed a wee bit to careful, but I've not
used it yet, that is all.

Cheers,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
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From: EKK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PCMCIA!!!
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:32:17 -0700

I found this on RH Linux mailing list, but no solution!!!



...

            Posted: 11/11/1998 03:09:13 AM

            From: Andrae Muys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 




       Ok, here is the problem.

       My boss has bought a brand new Toshiba Notebook, specifically for
the
       purposes of running Linux on it.  A nice little beast, ~156MB of
RAM, and
       PCMCIA ethernet and SCSI.  Naturally,  having an almost direct
ethernet
       connection to the primary Australian sunsite mirror, I would like
to do an
       FTP install.

       Start install.
       Do I want to use PCMCIA? Yes
       Supp' disk... Initialising PCMCIA...
       <Beep>
       Second stage install.
       (select FTP)
       Pick Network Card...

       Now this is funny, there isn't an 3c589x listed... (quick check
of the
       supported PCMCIA ethernet card list
http://www.redhat.com/support/... yep,
       first card on the list [3Com 3c589, 3c589B, 3c589C, 3c589D]).

       Go back check the list again... Nope not there.

       Check logs (ALT-F3/F4).  Lot's of error messages!

       cardmgr[14]: couldn't open /var/run/cardmgr.pid No Such File or
Directory.
       cardmgr[14]: version 3.0.5
       cardmgr[14]: writing 2 sockets
       cs: IO Port probe 0x1000 - 0x17ff probe failed.
       cs: IO Port probe 0x100 - 0x04ff excluding 0x220-0x22f,
0x330-0x337,
       0x378-0x37f, 0x388-0x38f, 0x4d0-0x4d7
       cs: IO Port probe 0x0a00-0aff clean
       cardmgr[14]: fopen stabfile) failed No such File or Directory
       cardmgr[14]: initialising socket 1
       cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff excluding
0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff:clean
       cardmgr[14]: socket 1 anonymous memory
       cardmgr[14]: executing : 'insmod
/lib/modules/2.0.36/pcmcia/memory_cs.o'
       memory_cs: mem0 : anonymous : unknown size
       cardmgr[14]: fopen(stabfile) failed No such File or Directory
       cardmgr[14]: executing : './memory start mem0'
       cardmgr[14]: + ./memory : cannot open /var/run/stab : No such
File.
       cardmgr[14]: start cmd exited with status 2

       Switched to the shell prompt on tty2.  

       #cat /proc/modules
       ...
       memory_cs       2       0
       ds      2       [memory_cs] 2
       i82365  5       2
       pcmcia_core     9       [memory_cs ds i82365] 0

       #cat /proc/devices
       Char 127 pcmcia
       block 9 md
            126 memory

       #cat /proc/interrupts
       11      i82365

       Check spec's on card:
       I/O - 16bytes from 200h-3a0h default 300h
       irq - 3,5,7,9-12,15 default 10

       ===

       I go to /lib/modules/.../pcmcia/

       #insmod 3c589_cs.o

       Checking /proc/modules indicates it's loaded.  Don't know if it
works, but
       at least the module is loaded.

       Go back to install program, try and bypass the network adaptor
stage. (Yes
       I'm in expert mode).  No luck.  I try ESC, I try everything I can
think
       of, but I can't bypass it.

       Neither can I test the network interface because despite loading
two disks
       of compressed tools -- One of which is exclusively dedicated to
PCMCIA and
       Network installs -- I still don't have the most basic of network
config
       tools I need to setup the network!

       Does anyone have any idea what is going wrong?  Or does anyone
know how to
       bypass the adaptor selection dialog?  (Note F12 dosn't work).

       ===

       RedHat, you don't really offer a network install option UNTIL you
allow
       people to troubleshoot it.  This would be about the 12-14th
aborted RedHat
       system, aborted ONLY because I couldn't troubleshoot the network
       configuration.  This has been both embarassing for me personally,
and
       extremely detremental to your own reputation.  I personally do a
full
       order of magnitude more NFS and FTP installs then I do CD
installs.  

       At the very least I MUST have access to the equivelent of 

       [andrae@reynier /sbin]$ du /sbin/ifconfig /sbin/route /bin/ping 
       24      /sbin/ifconfig
       24      /sbin/route
       15      /bin/ping

       That's 64k, most of which is already included in your install
program.
       They don't have to be binaries, they can be symbolic links to the
install
       program which uses argv[0] to access internal functions if you
want.  I
       don't care.  I only need the functionality.  Neither do they have
to be on
       the boot disk, only on the supplimentary disk.

       Please fix this ASAP.

       Andrae Muys

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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Vim and Vi
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:44:33 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:

<snip>

> 'true vi' is owned by AT&T and no source is available.

I thought Bill Joy wrote the original vi while he was at
Berkeley. So the Regents of the University of California
gave the rights to AT&T, or AT&T acquired them due to the
terms of the Unix source license granted to UC Berkeley?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW!
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:53:30 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Mark Guzzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Help!
> I just installed the new RH6.2 and got it up running like a kitten
here
> at work :-). One thing, I gave /usr and /usr/local about 850M. Well
/usr
> now has only 14.18M left and the /usr/local has 806M left. How does
one
> go about resizing the ext2 filesystem in Linux? There is still some
> PowerTools for 6.2 that I will like to install.
>
> Mark
>

Take a look at parted (easily found on www.freshmeat.net) or use
Partition Magic (a commercial program). Either should work fine.

Thomas


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From: Luca Marchese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.alpha,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: BOOKS ON LINUX ?
Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:09:37 +0200

ALL THE BOOKS ON LINUX IN THE WORLD ARE HERE

SCIENTIFIC PUBLISHERS GUIDE

 http://scientificpublishers.virtualave.net


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From: "PJC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiple CPU
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:10:33 -0400

1. Yes and so does any other distribution.
2. How many can you afford?
3. Very Stable if you have a good motherboard

chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>     Does Redhat 6.1 support multiple cpu?  What's the maximum no. of CPU
> supported?   How's the stability of such configuration?  Thanks!
> Chris
>



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From: Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:02:28 -0700

In article <954887463.4745.0.nnrp-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jamie Webb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I triple-boot Linux, Win98, WinNT. I would like to be able
>to read and download email in all of them. This means that
>I need an email client that can use a folder on a shared
>partition for its mailstore and which will run under
>Windows and Linux (or two compatible programs).
>Do any exist? I can't be the only person in this position.

How about Pine? See http://www.washington.edu/pine/ . Note:
more likely you'll need to use an e-mail client originally
from Unix and ported to Windows than the reverse. Even so,
you'll need to keep your e-mail files on a FAT partition so
that Win98 can access it.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony)
Subject: Re: X won't start, font error message, help!
Date: 4 Apr 2000 23:23:04 GMT

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Something has happened to my X server (I'm using Mandrake 7.0).  When I try
>to startx, it fails, and the error message I get says something like:
>
>    cannot connect to font 'fixed'
>
>I've tried playing with my font path, trying different installed fonts one
>at a time, but I still get the same message.  What's wrong, and how do I fix
>it?

Try to restart xfs
/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart

see if this solve the problem.


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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /usr almost full ! What NOW!
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 19:19:59 -0400

On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:52:51 -0500, Mark Guzzo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Help!
>I just installed the new RH6.2 and got it up running like a kitten here
>at work :-). One thing, I gave /usr and /usr/local about 850M. Well /usr
>now has only 14.18M left and the /usr/local has 806M left. How does one
>go about resizing the ext2 filesystem in Linux? There is still some
>PowerTools for 6.2 that I will like to install.
>
>Mark

If you have Win98 or Dos on the machine you can use
Partition Magic 5.0 or later.  I started with a 1 gig ext2
partition to try installing TurboLinux 4.  Since the space
was taken from one of my fat32 logical partitions I just
stole another gig using PM and everything booted and
ran fine.


Mike

--

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
    -- Groucho Marx

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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: look for duplicate files
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:29:59 GMT


any tool looking for duplicate files (ideally asci and bin-compare) in a 
folder and all its subfolders.
somehow we get in chaos here with a restored backup.

peter

-- 
pilsl@
goldfisch.at.at

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Vim and Vi
Date: 4 Apr 2000 19:37:11 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Harlan Grove wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
>> 'true vi' is owned by AT&T and no source is available.

> I thought Bill Joy wrote the original vi while he was at
> Berkeley. So the Regents of the University of California
> gave the rights to AT&T, or AT&T acquired them due to the
> terms of the Unix source license granted to UC Berkeley?

Lamb & Robbins 1998, Learning the vi editor, 6th edition, says:

: Bill Joy first built ex, starting with and heavily enhancing the Sixth
: Edition ed editor.  [... then he turned it into vi.]
:
: Despite all of the changes, vi's core was (and is) the original UNIX
: ed editor.  As such, it was code that could not be freely distributed.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Michael Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any email clients for Windows AND Linux
Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 19:26:33 -0400

On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:31:08 +0100, "Jamie Webb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I triple-boot Linux, Win98, WinNT. I would like to be able to read and
>download email in all of them. This means that I need an email client that
>can use a folder on a shared partition for its mailstore and which will run
>under Windows and Linux (or two compatible programs). Do any exist? I can't
>be the only person in this position.
>
>Thanks
>
>-- Jamie Webb
>

I believe there's a Pine for Win32, but I don't know of any GUI
mailers that are the same for Win32 and X.  Even Netscape
is set up differently on Linux than Windows.  Of course if you
don't care about graphics and don't mind a command line
interface, then there's a bunch of Linux ports to Win32.
Try www.cygnus.com


Mike

--

"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."
    -- Groucho Marx

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lockups
Date: 4 Apr 2000 23:54:20 GMT

Vinh Le wrote:
> 
> I've been experiencing Linux lockups; that is, X freezes
> and the keyboard and mouse stop functioning completely.
> ( A power down is necessary. )
> 
> I think there may be a conflict between the modem and
> sound card, because I'm usually playing .mp3's through
> xmms and terminating the modem connection at that moment.
> How do I go about debugging this problem?

To see how your interrupts are assigned try:
  cat /proc/interrupts

Remember that X is network based.  Make sure your network
is setup correctly for localhost.

I have also seen this behavior when an improperly setup
power management cuts in.  However, since you are using
Linux at the time this happens, this is less likely.

Best of luck...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: redhat 6.1 vs PostgreSql
Date: 4 Apr 2000 23:57:12 GMT

Kenny Leong wrote:
> 
> My RH6.1 include the postgresql-6.5.2
> 
> Can anyone give me some example of file setting (eg. ~/.bash_profile) and
> tell me what directories(path) that i need to make. I always have the path
> problem(eg. PGDATA) when I run postmaster -i .

Look at the script file:
  /etc/rc.d/init.d/postgresql

This is very instructive on how postgresql gets setup, and which directories
it uses.  This is normally set to run at boot...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve)
Subject: Re: bash special characters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 2000 00:56:10 GMT

On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:01:40 +0100, Robin Becker wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:35:19 +0100, Robin Becker wrote:
>>>In an older version of bash I was able to use auto completion of paths
>>>with the colon character in them eg /c:/Program Files etc. In the
>>>version of bash in Suse 6.3 I find this is no longer true.
>>>
>>>I looked through the man page, but couldn't find out what affects the
>>>auto completion so that /c\: auto-completes, but /c: doesn't.
>>>
>>
>>No I'm not a bash guru.
>>
>>But : is a special character, it is used in bash as a seperator, so 
>>using c\: would tell bash to treat this as a character rather than
>>an operator.
>>
>>Can't really see why you asked the question when you answer it 
>>yourself right there in the question. 
>>
>In the previous bash : wasn't special, I'm asking if that is user
>settable or not. 

Your question prompted me to investigate this further, and I 
found the following in man bash

SHELL BUILTIN COMMANDS
       : [arguments]
              No effect; the command does nothing beyond expanding 
              arguments and performing any specified redirections.  
              A zero exit code is returned.

So it seems to be a built in feature in this version.

bash -version
GNU bash, version 1.14.7(1)

 
-- 
Cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: linux (kernel 2.3.44) and vfat32
Date: 04 Apr 2000 20:07:16 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[posted and mailed]
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 21:29:10 +0200, N. Doetsch 
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I have a strange problem with linux writing to a vfat32-partition
>normaly used by windows98. Everything seems to be ok as long as I�m
>under linux. When I boot w98 and look on that partition still everything
>looks fine EXCEPT every File which fits DOS 8.3-convention is in capital
>letters. 

I think this is a Feature, as I've seen the same behavior on a WinNT/98
system when NT writes to the FAT16 partition.  The rationale is that an
8.3 filename must be in caps, and if a filename can fit in 8.3, it should,
since putting a long filename on a file requires the creation of at least
one more directory entry in the FAT filesystem.

You *might* be able to modify this behavior by changing the options in
/etc/fstab like so, adding the "posix" thing.:

/dev/hda1    /mnt/win   vfat  noauto,user,posix   0  0

HTH,
-- 
Matt G / Dances With Crows              \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity         \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see      \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.

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