Linux-Misc Digest #44, Volume #26                Sun, 15 Oct 00 21:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (2:1)
  Linux SMP Lock at boot with Epox KP6-BS (Dan Smith)
  Re: Warning:  Setting Locale Failed (Colin Watson)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  printer setup problem ("ryan vaughan")
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (jazz)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (jazz)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (.)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (.)
  Re: Installation of PHP 4.0.3 (Jeff Grossman)
  Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf (Christopher Booth)
  Re: Bizarre shell problem. NO WAY (Servet Ahmet Cizmeli)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (jazz)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Robert Kiesling)
  Re: How to execute a program at startup? (Storm Linux User)
  Re: OpenBSD- Opinion (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Joseph T. Adams")
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Joseph T. Adams")
  Re: MTA replscement for sendmail (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: no space for semaphores (Dustin Puryear)
  newbie: help with sed ("andrew phuong")

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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 01:06:19 +0100

jazz wrote:
> 
> I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
> 
> What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
> 
> Thanks ---
> Jazz

Staroffice.

www.sun.com

-Ed



-- 
Konrad Zuse should  recognised. He built the first      | Edward Rosten
binary digital computer (Z1, with floating point) the   | Engineer
first general purpose computer (the Z3) and the first   | u98ejr@
commercial one (Z4).                                    | eng.ox.ac.uk

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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux SMP Lock at boot with Epox KP6-BS
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:25:23 -0400

I never had this problem before I installed two i550MHz Coppermines in
my Rev 2 KP6-BS board.  Now during bootup of the Linux kernel, it hangs
at certain places, saying it's waiting on CPU#0.  It hangs during
init'ing my NCR53c8xx card (among other things.)  If it doesn't lock
during boot, the /proc/cpuinfo shows CPU#1 as 0Hz, no info.  If I take
out the second RAM chip (SIEMENS PC100), it will work ok 99% of the
time.  It only happens during boot.  If I make it thru kernel load with
no probs, then I'm fine until the next boot.  Is it a card, RAM, CPU, or
what?

Linux Mandrake 7.1 Kernel 2.2.15

Thanks!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Warning:  Setting Locale Failed
Date: 15 Oct 2000 23:19:08 GMT

Bryan Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to get asDrinks to work on my system.  When I try to run the
>script, I get the following message:
>
>perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
>perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
>        LANGUAGE = "en",
>        LC_ALL = "en",
>        LANG = "en"
>    are supported and installed on your system.
>
>This doesn't seem to be well documented.  Can anyone tell me how to
>change these settings, or at least where to look for info?

Erm. LANG=en is a reasonable enough language setting. Your locales are
broken, I think; this accidentally happened on Debian unstable for a
while recently when libc6 was being upgraded. Are you running any kind
of unstable distribution? Or perhaps you just haven't installed your
distributor's [1] locales package, or whatever it's called.

[1] Mandrake, judging from the headers?

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"But in your dreams, whatever they be / Dream a little dream of me."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 23:30:27 GMT

You must be a moron.

Usually only takes one post..

Cheers!

claire


On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:53:24 +0400, "Jan Schaumann"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>Hmmm, took me three posts to realize you're a troll, I'm getting old.
>
>*plonk*
>
>
>Cheers,
>-Jan


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From: "ryan vaughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: printer setup problem
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:41:49 +0700

Hello, I have an athlon 600 running RH 6.1, with a Canon BJC-240L
printer and I'm having trouble setting up the printer.  when i use
printtool i set up the printer fine, detected on /dev/lp0, and when
 i try to print a test page it says it was successfully sent but nothing 
comes out of the printer.  I am at a loss as to what to do.  Any help 
would be greatly appreciated.  

thanks,
Ryan Vaughan

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jazz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:44:43 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the Linux world that will 100 percent
> emulate MSOffice. Nothing at all.
> 
> THe Linux toys are a joke. Try them for yourself and see how well your
> presentations translate.
> 
> When the rest of the world is running Office, why should you run some
> half assed wannabe?
> 
> Is your job worth it?
> 
> 
> claire
> 
> 
> On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 17:23:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (jazz) wrote:
> 
> >I really need a powerful word processor with templates, styles, etc.
> >
> >What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
> >
> >Thanks ---
> >Jazz



Well, since my job is to do research on how the brain works, I don't think
I'm going to get fired over my choice of word processors. Unless I decide
to fire myself.

Why leave Office?

Because I want to run Unix/Linux to develop OpenGL applications to display
functioning brains, will never touch Windows, and the expense of keeping a
reasonably current mac around just to do my word processing seems a bit of
a waste of your tax dollars?

Thanks for the info, that's as I expected.

All I ask for is the ability to import Star Office files into Word. Possible?

Thanks
Jim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jazz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:48:41 -0400

In article <qEqG5.3541$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jan
Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> 
> Well, then you probably want to take a look at
> -abiword
> -StarOffice (BLOATware)
> -ApplixWare (payware)
> 
> Or you can just distribute your documents as pdf's...
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> -Jan



Please tell me more. For example, I just wrote a paper with someone in LA.
I'm in New Jersey. I wrote a draft, emailed it to them, they revised it,
resent it to me, I revised and made additions, sent it back, he revised,
and I sent some additional parts, he put it all together, and sent it out
to all the other authors, as a word attachment they all can read and make
changes to.

So these would have to import/export files in word-readible format.

Can they do that? I doubt Bill would put up with that, and would instruct
his minions to make a couple of tweaks in Word for insurance.

Thanks
Jim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 23:52:39 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
> crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
> world, is using Word.

Actually, I submit many things written on staroffice for solaris, and
my boss always says the same thing:

"Thanks"




=====.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 15 Oct 2000 23:53:13 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You have to be kidding?

> Latex?

> barrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

True, it does require half a brain to use.




=====.


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From: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installation of PHP 4.0.3
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:58:09 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 16:14:13 +0100, Jean-St�phane Lebrun
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >5. In the file "/usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf"
> >
> >I add :
> >AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
> >AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
> 
> Shouldn't that be:
> 
> AddType application/x-httpd-php4 .php
> AddType application/x-httpd-php4-source .phps
> 
> 
No, the original one is correct.  PHP4 uses php now.  Whereas PHP3 used 
php3.

Jeff
-- 
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: Christopher Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: word docs 2 ps/pdf
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 09:28:23 +1100

The solutions is quite simple

Open up the word document, print to file using a postscript printer
driver.  The outputted file will be a postscript file.

An alternative is
http://cpdf1.adobe.com/index.pl?BP=NS

Which is an adobe site which converts up to 3 files to PDF online, after
you register.
Supported formats include Microsoft� Office files, Web pages, graphics
formats, and other file types. (Note: Uploaded files are limited to 50
MB and a 15-minute processing time.)

Regards

Christopher Booth

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From: Servet Ahmet Cizmeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Bizarre shell problem. NO WAY
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:02:24 GMT

Vilmos Soti wrote:

> Check with ldd which libraries this program uses. There is a good
> chance the loader cannot find one library.

OK! Let me begin from the beginning. I try to run the file

[root@seawifs lnx86]# ls -l /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
-rwxr-xr-x   10 106      users      219264 Oct 31  1997
/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
 
like this 
[root@seawifs lnx86]# /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
bash: /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid: No such file or directory

this file is an executable 
[root@seawifs lnx86]# file /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel
80386, v
ersion 1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped

and ldd (or whoever is supposed to find it) cannot find it either
[root@seawifs lnx86]# ldd /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid
/usr/bin/ldd: /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid: No such file or
directory

 > Also, you can use strace on the binary to check out what file it
> doesn't find, but first, use the ldd command. That is much simpler

OK. strace gives a little more information but I think it has the same
problem as well. 

[root@seawifs lnx86]# strace /usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid 
execve("/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid",
["/usr/local/matlab5/etc/lnx86/lmhostid"], [/* 28 vars */]) = 0
strace: exec: No such file or directory

I checked the permissions and they seem OK 
ls -l  /usr/local/matlab5/etc/
drwxrwxr-x    2 root     root         4096 Oct 16 00:49 lnx86

This problem is clearly beyound my limits. 
Please help me! 
Thanks a lot from advance
Servet

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jazz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:50:23 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
> crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
> world, is using Word.
> 
> Maybe Linus will give you a job at Transmeta.
> 
> claire


Are you this offensive in real life too?

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 15 Oct 2000 20:01:45 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) writes:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > You have to be kidding?
> 
> > Latex?
> 
> > barrrrrrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
> 
> True, it does require half a brain to use.

Unless one tries using it under Winedoze, in which case it requires a
file system.



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From: Storm Linux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to execute a program at startup?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 18:19:26 -0600

"St�phane K." wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Does anybody know how to execute a program at startup?
>
> The situation: I have to exec my ddns everytime I turn my machine on
> because I have dynamic IP. OK.
> BUT I cannot execute it as normal user (otherwise I would just put a
> line in my .bashrc) it gives me a strange answer
>
> [stephanek@kastar stephanek]$ ddns --modify
> error: unknown port in configuration file: http
>
> so I have to execute the script as root, then it works. How do I tell
> the init program to run this script (as root) everytime I turn the
> computer on? Without logging in as root though?
>
> Thanks for your help folks,
>
> PS: all this is for my ftp server to run properly... Who wants leech
> access?
> --
>

Well, on RedHat/Mandrake systems, I think you would put the command in
/etc/init.d/rc.local (do a locate for 'rc.local' to make sure), on SuSE systems,
you would put it in /sbin/init.d/boot.local.  Not sure yet for Debian based
systems.

Monte





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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: OpenBSD- Opinion
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:17:11 GMT

On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 09:37:02 -0400, waciuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>most of the files are more logically laid out IMO than say RedHat or
>Corel. I always hate having to find a config file in a seven layer
>subdir (ie /etc/network/ipv4/....)

In general, *BSD tends to follow the assumed standards (oxymoron 
alert) of what goes where. Linux on the other hand..

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:24:18 GMT

On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:48:41 -0400, jazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Please tell me more. For example, I just wrote a paper with someone in LA.
>I'm in New Jersey. I wrote a draft, emailed it to them, they revised it,
>resent it to me, I revised and made additions, sent it back, he revised,
>and I sent some additional parts, he put it all together, and sent it out
>to all the other authors, as a word attachment they all can read and make
>changes to.

One thing that StarOffice seems to lack is revisions. This can really be a pain
if several people are editing one document. As someone who has worked with 
several editors at a time I can say that Word is still champ when you need to
work with others and all work on one file.

I've found that a good solution is to use Word under VMWare. 

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:31:15 GMT

On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 19:44:43 -0400, jazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>All I ask for is the ability to import Star Office files into Word. Possible?

Yes, it is possible. However, be aware that there are a few conversion issues.
In general, documents will be imported/exported properly, but I've found that 
sometimes tables and other odds-and-ends don't come out 100% correct. 

You should run StarOffice and create a few test documents that use the features
you will be using. Swap between SO and Word and see what happens. Make sure
that you create the original test documents in both SO and Word and do two
separate test.

Another possibility is to use HTML for true portability, but most publishing
houses will not support that.

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 00:35:36 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy jazz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Larry Ebbitt
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:> jazz wrote:
:> 
:> > What is available for Linux? How about for Powerpoint and Excel?
:> 
:> StarOffice is a pretty good Office clone.



: Can you import/export to/from Word?


Pretty much.  The results won't be perfect, but they'll usually be
close.

In the Linux world, we often prefer to separate content and
presentation.  This can be done with tools like DocBook.  With one set
of portable source, we can export to virtually any other format
imaginable.

All the tools you need to do this are portable and would run on NT as
well as Linux.


Joe

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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 00:36:39 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
: crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
: world, is using Word.


Professional publishers have been using Unix for decades.


Joe

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: MTA replscement for sendmail
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:38:36 GMT

On 14 Oct 2000 23:27:27 +0100, S.Brautaset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am going to run a MTA on my single-user laptop, because even if it has a LAN
>connection to internet, it will not always be connected.
>
>Sendmail runs out of the box for my purpose, but if I am not mistaken, sendmail
>is designed for huge systems handeling enormous amounts of mail. Thus I think I
>would be better off with a different MTA developed with the single-user systems
>in mind.

Stig, I read several good replies to your post. However, keep in mind that when
idle sendmail is not really a resource hog. If it's working why replace it? The
only concern you should really have once it's running are sendmail exploits. Of
course, you can avoid being rooted by simply keeping a deny-everything firewall
up.

Anyway, if you are set on installing something Postfix is also an excellent
package. Very simple to setup, doesn't have the binary distribution problems 
that qmail has, and is considered rather secure. Another great contribution by 
Wietse Venema.

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: no space for semaphores
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 00:47:18 GMT

On 13 Oct 2000 23:56:48 GMT, Andrew Daviel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>We've been running a mailserver for a while now (230 days) and an a/v application I am
>trying to run dies with:
> Cannot acquire the semaphore(semget return -1): No space left on device
>There is lots of disk space and lots of swap space.
>I presume the app has ENOSPC back from semget().
>Where are semaphores allocated and how can I get space back ?
>I don't really want to reboot, which would no doubt fix the problem.
>I kill the a/v program regularly to load new databases (just plain killall, no -KILL) 
>so 
>I guess it might slowly chew its way through the allocation.

Try creating a simple test program that creates a new semaphore set and see 
what happens. Also, run ipcs to see if you have a lot of semaphore sets being 
used. If so perhaps you have hit the kernel's limit. 

Note that to remove an existing semaphore set as an administrator (rather 
than the application that created the set) use ipcrm.

-- 
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux


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From: "andrew phuong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie: help with sed
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:57:43 +1000

Hi All,

In this file I am trying to substitute the string

/usr/foobar/script.sh

with this new string $TESTPATH/tscript.sh

where  $TESTPATH=/home/test/

However I am getting parsing error when I use the sed cmd. Can anyone
provide me an elegant solution to this

Thanks in Advance

Andrew



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