Linux-Misc Digest #92, Volume #24                 Sun, 9 Apr 00 20:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
  Re: newbie question (Chetan Ahuja)
  Re: xmms+esound output problem (David Efflandt)
  Profile Question ("Egbert Sous�")
  Re: Linux printing inadequate. ("Peter T. Breuer")
  modules and map file in debian (Rick Pasotto)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Kevin)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: libg2c.a what is it? (Rob Komar)
  Re: ? comp.os.linux.announce ? (Rob Komar)
  Re: Does anybody know a gzip-compressor in hardware ? (Chris Pitzel)
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
  Greetings, ("Christopher C. Stump")
  Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf) (Victor Wagner)
  Re: Greetings,I am trying to get my printer to work on my Red Hat 6.1  ("Christopher 
C. Stump")
  Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Charles R. Lyttle")
  Re: Can't mount Win95 FAT32 (Timo Nieminen)
  Re: uninstalling stuff (Nick Kew)

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Reply-To: <btolder>
From: <btolder>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:21:47 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy


Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8cpol5

> Can you be quite so naive and unaware of economics! The cost to YOU is
> not the cost of the software you receive, but the cost in unreceived
> software. Billy is quite happy for you to pay zilch for his software
> if it keeps the opposition out. Then he can reap the licence fees from
> people who want to sell on add software for his platform, and the
> payments from the assembly shops who sell you the computer WITH the
> O/S on it already (and charge you for it in their margin even if
> you don't get it). And so on ... have you played monopoloy (the board
> game)?

License fees? There is no license fee required to develop for Windows.
Sorry.

Per-processor licensing was stopped long ago. However, bundling of products
is still quite common. For example, Dell sells several models with a Logitec
mouse. They will not remove the mouse and give you credit. They will not
substitute the mouse. Why is this? Because it is a pain in the ass to
maintain different versions. There is nothing evil at work here, just
companies trying to minimize their options and just reduce their costs.



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Reply-To: <btolder>
From: <btolder>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:55:25 -0700
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy


Mats Olsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8cqt0p$s6g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <eIsDuemo$GA.304@cpmsnbbsa04>,  <btolder> wrote:
> >
> >Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >> Then you would lose that bet. The MacOS has been repeadedly show to
have
> >> a much lower ownership cost when support is factoredd in. Linux,
FreeBSD
> >> and the other *nix varieties can have a $0 purchase price, and are
> >> certainly no more expensive to maintain.
> >
> >I can find a long list of articles stating Windows has a lower cost of
> >ownership (even compared to Mac),
>
>     Cool. Mind posting an URL?

A URL?  Hah. There's more than that. Go the MS sight and search on TCO. Then
get a cup of coffee and start browsing the links. I didn't post them because
it tends to make folks dwell on the problems with each study rather than
letting me make up my own mind.

I'd be happy to read something, anything, on Linux TCO even if it was
published by Linus himself.



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From: Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: 9 Apr 2000 22:51:06 GMT


  OK... From the readme file, it seems they are using a tulip
  compatible chip. That make thigs easy.
    As root, just try to type "insmod tulip" If there are no error
  messages, type "ifconfig". See if you have an eth0 now. If yes,
  Wonderful, you don't need to compile anything. You have a driver for
  you card. To make this module load up at startup, enter the
  following in your /etc/conf.modules ( or is it /etc/modules.conf

    alias eth0 tulip
    
   All you need to do now is to setup a DHCP client to run at startup
   which will contact the cable companies' DHCP server and get you an
   IP address etc. I don't use DHCP myself but under redhat, the
   procedure is likely to be as follows:

   1.Install the pump package from the CD ( it would be in the form of
     a pump-????.rpm (or maybe dhcpd.rpm.) file and the command to
     install is   rpm -ivh pump-???.rpm)  If both dhcpd and pump
     exist, you have to install just one of them.

   2. Read the man page for pump and see whether you need to setup any
      configuration parameters in some file... ( ideally you shouldn't
      have to)
   
   3. Run the ntsysv command through which you can choose dhcp
      service to start at startup. But you don't have to reboot for it
      to start working ( this is not windows) You can just go to
      /etc/rc.d/init.d and find the shell script which corresponds to
      the DHCP client ( it would be named pump or dhcp or somthing)
      just run it with the arguement start. i.e. type:

            ./pump start

     That should more or less be it. Maybe somebody who uses DHCP can
     guide you further. Of course you have to do all this as root.

     Chetan
     

     

In comp.os.linux.misc Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I forgot to mention that I am using Redhat 6.0

> a.


> Arun Keswani wrote:

>> Thanks for the prompt replies. I am new to Linux. I have worked on the
>>
>> AIX platform, so I am getting used to the Linux commands. The ethernet
>>
>> card sold under the name of ASIX Electronics, but the driver disk
>> comes
>> from some F=ma corporation in Taiwan. At any rate it is a GFC2204
>> 10/100 Fast Ethernet PCI Adapter with RJ 45 Connector.  The driver
>> disk contains a Linux folder ,with the following files in it. ;
>> Ax88140.c     C source file
>> Crc.h             C header file
>> Readme.
>>
>> I will attached the contents of the readme at the end of this message.
>>
>> I guess there are a couple of things that I don't understand. If the
>> disk
>> is DOS compatible, how should I get the file from my DOS partition
>> to my linux partition, and will it be readable in Linux ? The service
>> that I am using is AT&T @Home.
>>
>> I have to admit, I am not sure how to add a kernel module for the
>> card.
>> The card does use DHCP for Wins resolution undert 98, but I am not
>> sure exactly what that is . As you can see this is a real newbie
>> question.
>>
>> It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump" in
>> a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
>> Arun
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> =========================
>> Linux Driver Installation
>> =========================
>>
>> The GFC2204 driver is included in newer 2.0.3x kernels,
>> the driver name is "DECchip Tulip (dc21x4x)".
>>
>> If you don't have a proper version of tulip.c,
>> the procedure to install this driver on linux:
>>
>>   step 1: compile:
>>            "gcc -DMODVERSIONS -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DAX88140_DEBUG=0
>> -m486
>>            -I/usr/src/linux/net/inet -Wall -Wredundant-decls
>>            -Wstrict-prototypes -O6 -c ax88140.c"
>>
>>            run this instruction at /usr/src/linux, make sure
>>            you have gcc and full kernel includes installed.
>>            ignore any warnings, they are common in kernel code,
>>            if any errors occur, remove the '-DMODVERSIONS' option,
>>            then try again, if you still can't compile it correctly,
>>            your kernel version is incompatible with this driver.
>>
>>   step 2: insert the driver as module:
>>            insmod ax88140.o
>>            parameter can be added by adding options=..... behind the
>> instruction
>>
>>         (run 'lsmod' to see if the module is inserted)
>>
>>   step 3: bind your card to an IP address
>>
>>      /sbin/ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} broadcast ${BROADCAST} netmask
>> ${NETMASK}
>>         (run 'netstat -i' to see if there is a interface 'ne0')
>>
>>   step 4: add your card to IP routing table, then add gateway also
>>      your card:
>>            /sbin/route add -net ${NETWORK} netmask ${NETMASK} eth0
>>            (should be able to ping local network now)
>>      gateway:
>>            /sbin/route add default gw ${GATEWAY} netmask 0.0.0.0
>> metric 1
>>
>>   step 5: start inet deamon.
>>            /usr/sbin/inetd
>>            (you are on the network now)
>>
>> *make sure that your kernel is built with network, fast_ethernet and
>> module
>>  support. Otherwise, you have to rebuild your kernel.
>>         (1:go to /usr/src/linux directory
>>          2:run 'make menuconfig' or 'make config'
>>          3:mark the options list above.
>>          4:exit and rebuild your kernel.
>>             make dep;make clean;make zImage
>>            the file 'zImage' will be at
>> /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/zImage
>>          5:modify /etc/lilo.conf.(this file specify where kernel image
>> is)
>>          6:run 'lilo'  )
>>
>> You can run 'netconfig' which will do step 3,4,5 for you. This will
>> create
>> '/etc/rc.d/inet1' and 'inet2' files. These two files will run at boot
>> time.
>> Then just add a line at the beginning of 'inet1'.
>>         'insmod /your driver path/ax88140.o'
>>
>> then your driver will work every time you boot.
>>
>> The author may be reached as [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Ray wrote:
>>
>>> Stephen J Howard wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Yup it means the kernel has not recognised your ethernet card.
>>> What type is
>>> > it? You could then run control-panel and manually insert the
>>> kernel module
>>> > for the card, then al should be well.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> >
>>> > Steve
>>> >
>>> > Arun Keswani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> > > I recently acquired cable modem service. I use both Linux and
>>> Windows on
>>> > > my machine
>>> > > but the cable company does not support their product for Linux.
>>> I
>>> > > proceeded to try
>>> > > and setup the networking options under Linux. I put in all the
>>> > > information about
>>> > > ip addresses, gateways, dns (primary), dns(secondary), netmask
>>> etc, but
>>> > > i cannot get
>>> > > my machine to see the network.
>>> > >
>>> > > I tried using ifconfig, but when I use this option, it tells me
>>> that the
>>> > > device
>>> > > eth0 is not found. Does this mean that Linux (Redhat 6.0) is not
>>>
>>> > > recognizing
>>> > > my Ethernet card or that I have specified some settings
>>> incorrectly. Any
>>> > > help
>>> > > would be greatly appreciated.
>>> > >
>>> > > a.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>>
>>>         Also, Let us know what cable service, RoadRunner is a snap,
>>> as there is
>>> no login process. It is DHCP, as are most, and you better see "pump"
>>> in
>>> a ps ax after you get eth0 fired up.
>>> --
>>> Raymond R. Jones
>>> The Computer Shop
>>> HTTP://GORDO.PENGUINPOWERED.COM
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: xmms+esound output problem
Date: 9 Apr 2000 22:56:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Catilina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>When using xmms with the esd output plugin, the music is played way to fast
>(at least double speed). Has anyone else seen or heard this problem before?

If you give us a URL to the file, we could check if there is a problem
with it.

I have not used XMMS before yesterday, but it seems to work fine in
RH 6.1 playing mp3 files in gnome on an old SB16 sound card.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: "Egbert Sous�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Profile Question
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 22:57:02 GMT

    I type set -o vi logged on as a user and it doesn't work (using bash).
When I su to root, and enter it at the command line, it works.  I have that
statement in .bash_profile for all users, including root, and /etc/profile.
However it only works when I type it at the command line for root.    I am a
little confused about how this works.  I had it working fine on
RH 5.2.  It fell apart under RH 6.1  How can it set it so it works
foreveryone, every time?

===============================User
Profile------------------------------------------------

# .bash_profile

# Get the aliases and functions
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
        . ~/.bashrc
fi

# User specific environment and startup programs

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
BASH_ENV=$HOME/.bashrc
USERNAME=""
export TERM=vt100
export USERNAME BASH_ENV PATH
set -o vi
export PS1="[\u $PWD] $"

export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk118
export JSDK=/usr/local/JSDK2.0/lib/jsdk.jar
export JSERV=/usr/lib/apache/ApacheJServ.jar
export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$JSDK:$JSERV





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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux printing inadequate.
Date: 9 Apr 2000 22:55:48 GMT

Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:   processing) What I want is for some standard way ( across platforms
:   etc) for lpr to pass various options (print quality, duplex etc) to
:   lpd and for lpd to pass them on to the magic filters/ghostscropt
:   or whatever at the backend to process the spooled job. Then

Oooooh! Why didn't you say so! That's easy. That's just a wrapper
around lpr to choose the most appropriate predefined printer by looking
in printcap when you giive it some motley assortment of options.
Doesn't "lp" do that?

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Pasotto)
Subject: modules and map file in debian
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:01:18 GMT

[I am running debain 2.1 with several packages upgraded to potato. My
newsserver evidently no longer has any debian groups.]

I have compiled a new 2.2 kernel with modules. When I run depmod -a the
modules.dep file in the 2.2.1 directory has pointers to 2.0.34 modules.
When I boot using the new kernel there is a line in the messages file
'Cannot find map file' and the boot process displays lots of errors
about module/kernel mismatches. I copied the new System.map file to
/boot/map. /etc/lilo.conf has a header line pointing there. Everything
seems to work fine anyway.

What have I failed to do or done incorrectly? How do I get rid of the
error messages?

Also, I have installed kernel-package using apt-get but it fails saying
it can't exec gcc. gcc obviously works since I can compile the kernel
manually.

-- 
Most of the presidential candidates' economic packages involve 'tax
breaks,' which is when the government, amid great fanfare, generously
decides not to take quite so much of your income. In other words,
these candidates are trying to buy your votes with your own money.
                -- Dave Barry
                   Rick Pasotto email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:04:53 GMT



Otto wrote:
> 
> That's not true, the last PC I bought with OS pre-installed had Windows3.1
> on it. Since then this is my fifth PC and none of them came pre-loaded with
> any OS.

Otto, don't you think it's odd that a large PC-manufacturing
company like IBM, who has their own operating systems, will
not sell you a PC without Windows on it?  IBM will not sell
you a PC that is pre-loaded exclusively with OS/2.  The best
you can get is OS/2 and Windows dual-boot.  There's something
wrong there IMHO, Otto.

Kevin.

-- 

Java Programmer, Matrix fanatic
"There is no spoon."
  - Neo

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:10:09 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc btolder wrote:

> Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:kfJH4.1029

>> Except that they've never developed anything.  Not anything new
>> anyway.  MS products are mostly just bloated, crappy copies of
>> stuff other people invented.

> Where do you see the real innovation happening in this business? What
> companies? What specific technologies?

Transmeta?
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   |                                                 |
|   Andrew Halliwell BSc   | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
|            in            |  suck is probably the day they start making     |
|     Computer science     |  vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge            |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.12 GCS>$ d-(dpu) s+/- a C++ US++ P L/L+ E-- W+ N++ o+ K PS+ w-- M+/++  |
|PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ X+/X++ R+ tv+ b+ DI+ D+ G e++ h/h+ !r!|  Space for hire  |
==============================================================================

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From: Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: libg2c.a what is it?
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 08:59:51 -0700

Martijn Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Oliver Gebele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Does anybody know what the libg2c.a is used for?
>>
>>It is the g77 (gnu Fortran 77) runtime library.

> To me it seems that it is the librarie of f2c, the fortran to c translator. As 
> far as I know g77 is just an frontend for gcc, just like g++. The people on 
> comp.lang.fortran can tell you more.

libg2c.a is derived from libf2c.a, but was modified for use with g77.  It used
to be called libf2c.a, as well, not too long ago, but it was renamed so that
it wouldn't conflict with any official versions of libf2c.a people had lying
around.

Cheers,
Rob Komar

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From: Rob Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ? comp.os.linux.announce ?
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 09:42:44 -0700

Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From the META-FAQ

>         comp.os.linux.announce is moderated by Lars Wirzenius.  
>         To make submissions to the newsgroup, send mail to linux-
>         [EMAIL PROTECTED]  You may direct questions about
>         comp.os.linux.announce to Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That FAQ is seriously out-of-date; Lars Wirzenius gave up moderating
that group a couple of years ago (Dec '97).  It was taken over by
Mikko Rauhala, who is still doing the job today.  His E-mail address
was given as [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the announcement; I don't know if it's
still valid today.

Cheers,
Rob Komar

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From: Chris Pitzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.compression,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Does anybody know a gzip-compressor in hardware ?
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:22:14 GMT

> >my company's business relies heavily on the gzip compression algorithm.
> >I was thinking about a PCI-card, with a small driver for let's say: linux, which
> >does only gzip, but really fast !!
> >Does anybody know a company or somebody who sells or can develop such a thing ?
> >However it must be x-times faster than today's top pentium !
>         I'm sure someone could develop an ASIC that could compress and

Or more realistically, a FPGA.  

> decompress gzip files quite effectively, but really, I think you'ld
> find that the amount of time your system spent doing I/O to this card
> would negate any performance advantage you might see.  Your best bets

Indeed; the first and most prudent thing would be to find out where the
bottleneck exists.  Is it I/O?  Memory?  Or is it the CPU?  I don't know
how Gzip compares with Winzip or other comparable programs which exist
on PC's, but I know that the PC-based programs tend to be I/O, and not
CPU bound.

> for improving things would probably be to get a faster processor
> and/or multiple processors and a faster hard drive, possibly some more
> memory.

Good advice, and a hell, (and I mean a hell) of a lot less expensive
than developing hardware to perform the task.

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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:22:24 GMT

btolder wrote:
> 
> Charles R. Lyttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 
> > > The cost of M$ software is incredibly reasonable. It's running about $90
> > > every 3 years for an OS upgrade. That's $30 per year. Most companies
> budget
> > > more for office supplies and copies per employee per year.
> 
> > Priced Office recently? Gates could give away the OS just to make sure
> > you had no choice but run his applications. But people are still willing
> > to pay for the OS, which costs pennies to produce, but brings in dollars
> > (or pounds).
> 
> At work I simply click a button to install the latest software, and
> microsoft is included in the list so I have no idea what my employer paid
> for Office.
> 
> MS Office Upgrade standard comes with word, excel, powerpoint and outlook
> and costs $229 (CompUSA). You can upgrade from just about anything,
> including Lotus 2.x for DOS! So there really isn't any reason for anyone to
> be paying for a non-upgrade version.
> 

What if your customer wants to use an older version? Do you upgrade him
too? What do you do if your customer is the US Government and congress
hasn't allocated $15,000,000,000 to upgrade the government from 95 to
2000? Do you say ok, we use 2000 so we will buy you enough copies to
upgrade yourself and be compatible with our operation" ?

> Corel is selling their suite for $289 (CompUSA) and it includes word
> processing, spreadsheet, presentation, and a PIM application. It also offers
> web publishing, which MS word does. It also doesn't have email.
> 
Makes my point. MS could give away their OS if it makes life for Corel
difficult. The money is in the applications not the OS.

> So I don't see that Microsoft's office programs are all that unreasonable.
> In fact, they are a much better value than something like Corel.

I didn't say they were unreasonable. Just that MS could give away the OS
to prevent or hinder competition for the Office products. Give away a
product that lists for $30 to insure the sale of a product that retails
for $400.

-- 
Russ Lyttle, PE
<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
Thank you Melissa! 
Not Powered by ActiveX

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From: "Christopher C. Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Greetings,
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 18:21:06 -0500

Greetings,

     I am trying to get my printer to work on my Red Hat 6.1 machine.  I

try to use the printtool, and everything seems to work fine (my
parrallel port IS detected, and  the input filter has my printer
type...a HP 560c).  When I try to test the printer with the test options

in printtool, the  'print ASCII directly to port' option works fine.
However, when I try to use the 'print ASCII test page' option,  I get an

error which reads:

error printing test page to  queue taltos (lp0)  Error reason: lpr:
Connect: Connection refused
jobs queued but,  cannot start daemon.

Obviously, nothing works.  I assume that my printer (drivers and all)
will work fine, but something is wrong with the daemon.  Could someone
please help me out with this?  I've scoured deja.com, HOWTO's , and my
Red Hat online manual (along with all my linux books) but I can't find
anything addressing this problem.  Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance to all those who respond to this post =)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Wagner)
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: acrobat for linux (ps -> pdf)
Date: 9 Apr 2000 10:33:44 +0400

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I want a good utility for converting dvi or postscript files
: (generated from latex documents) to pdf files. There is free software
: (dvipdfm), but the TeX faq claims that Acrobat's distill utility is
: better and inexpensive (at least for academics). I have two questions:

: 1. Does Adobe have Acrobat for Linux?
  As far as I know, not yet. For now there are only Acrobat Reader and
  FrameMaker. But they promise full range of their product this year.
: 2. Is it worth the money?
  Since GhostScript 6.0 came out, I begin to doubt.

-- 
I hope I'm not getting so famous that I can't think out load [sic] anymore.
             -- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "Christopher C. Stump" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Greetings,I am trying to get my printer to work on my Red Hat 6.1 
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 18:24:39 -0500

"Christopher C. Stump" wrote:

> Greetings,
>
>      I am trying to get my printer to work on my Red Hat 6.1 machine.  I
>
> try to use the printtool, and everything seems to work fine (my
> parrallel port IS detected, and  the input filter has my printer
> type...a HP 560c).  When I try to test the printer with the test options
>
> in printtool, the  'print ASCII directly to port' option works fine.
> However, when I try to use the 'print ASCII test page' option,  I get an
>
> error which reads:
>
> error printing test page to  queue taltos (lp0)  Error reason: lpr:
> Connect: Connection refused
> jobs queued but,  cannot start daemon.
>
> Obviously, nothing works.  I assume that my printer (drivers and all)
> will work fine, but something is wrong with the daemon.  Could someone
> please help me out with this?  I've scoured deja.com, HOWTO's , and my
> Red Hat online manual (along with all my linux books) but I can't find
> anything addressing this problem.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance to all those who respond to this post =)

Sorry about the screwed up subject line...just a mistake!


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From: "Charles R. Lyttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 23:31:57 GMT

Christopher Smith wrote:
> 
> "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > btolder wrote:
> > > The cost of M$ software is incredibly reasonable. It's running about $90
> > > every 3 years for an OS upgrade. That's $30 per year. Most companies
> budget
> > > more for office supplies and copies per employee per year.
> >
> > Except that becasue of economies of scale, it SHOULD be MUCH cheaper.
> 
> Then, of course, they get charged with dumping.....

Nothing would prevent them from giving away their OS provided they
didn't require a contract prohibiting inclusion of non-MS applications.
The problem wasn't that they gave away IE, but that they make getting
good prices for the OS contingent on including IE and excluding
Netscape. MS could make a case that other OS vendors (Linux, FreeBSD)
give away their product, and that the per-unit-cost of Win2000 is so
near zero that the difference doesn't matter. If I thought there was a
snowballs chance in hades of MS adopting such a strategy, I would
mortgage the farm and buy more MS stock. But Gates is too much of a
control freak to do that.


-- 
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<http://www.flash.net/~lyttlec>
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From: Timo Nieminen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can't mount Win95 FAT32
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:40:22 +1000

> Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> # cat /proc/filesystems
>> 
>>                 ext2
>>                 msdos
>> nodev     proc
>>                 vfat
>> 
>> # mount /dev/hda1 /dosc
>> 
>> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1 or too
>> many mounted file systems

vfat is not FAT32. vfat is FAT16 with long file names. (Unless fat32 support
has been added to vfat module recently, but it wasn't there when your kernel
was born)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Subject: Re: uninstalling stuff
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:58:52 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        "Simon H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is basic stuff I know but I can't seem to find the relevant
> documentation anywhere.

I suspect there isn't any.

>       The question is: how do I uninstall applications
> that were installed using tar -xvzf

That's known as installing by hand.  You have to uninstall by hand.

It's reasonably easy if you structure your system to keep packages together,
so it's all in one place - like /opt/packagename or /usr/pkg/packagename.
OTOH a package that goes in standard places, with entries perhaps under
/usr/local/[bin|man|lib], /var, and /etc are blended in with your system.
Only do that with things you really know you want to keep.

-- 
Nick Kew

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