Linux-Misc Digest #92, Volume #26 Fri, 20 Oct 00 17:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Irritating logon screen error. (John Thompson)
Re: Equation Editors - AND STARMATH... ("Stuart D. Gathman")
Syn with Sony Clie? (Alex)
Re: Irritating logon screen error. (Minya Liang)
Re: strange compilation error ("Victor Bazarov")
Re: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux ("Steve Wolfe")
MySQL - User can not access database ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
How to get a process's I/O offset ? ("Radek Tomis")
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Dustin Puryear)
Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel? (Brian)
Re: How to get a process's I/O offset ? (Jan Johansson)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matt Garman)
Re: Help: Can Dial in to PPP server, can't get out of it (Dustin Puryear)
Re: StarOffice or Applixware ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Exceed with DHCP (William Rhodes)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matt Garman)
Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel? ("David ....")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matt Garman)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matt Garman)
Netscape startup problem (Richard Johnston)
Re: Which Linux distro most 'generic' *nix ? (Warren Young)
Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matt Garman)
Re: Chinese ownership of adobe.com name (John Hasler)
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Irritating logon screen error.
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 11:56:15 -0500
Victor Dods wrote:
> I have a very strange problem with my logon screen (graphical X Windows
> logon). It displays like normal, I enter my username and password, and
> then it goes back to the logon screen without any sort of error message
> or anything. I run KDE 1, on Corel Linux second edition. This error
> happens after I install QT version 1.44. Unfortunately, in order to
> install some programs I need, exactly version 1.44 is required. Could
> this be a simple problem like I'm not running ldconfig, or something
> similar? I would very much appreciate help. Thank you.
Use CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to a text login, then log in as root
and look at /var/log/xdm-error.log to see where the error lies.
You could also log in as a regular user from the text terminal
and use "startx -- :1" to start a new x session on screen 1 to
see if that works.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Stuart D. Gathman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,sci.math
Subject: Re: Equation Editors - AND STARMATH...
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:46:54 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Have you tried using Latex? I know that it can
> display extremely complicated formulas, but it's a
> bit hard to use though.. =)
LyX makes LaTeX equations easy and visual:
http://www.lyx.org
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song
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commercial.
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Syn with Sony Clie?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:19:18 -0400
Dear All:
I am wondering if anyone got Sony's Clie to syn with Linux programs
using either serial or USB port.
>From the syn's point of view... would Palm Vx be a better choice?
Sincerely.
Alex.
============================================
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http://www.seti.org/
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From: Minya Liang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Irritating logon screen error.
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:18:50 -0400
i encoutered the same problem weeks ago.
it turned out the / partition is out of space.
well, yours could be a different reason.
minya
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, John Thompson wrote:
> Victor Dods wrote:
>
> > I have a very strange problem with my logon screen (graphical X Windows
> > logon). It displays like normal, I enter my username and password, and
> > then it goes back to the logon screen without any sort of error message
> > or anything. I run KDE 1, on Corel Linux second edition. This error
> > happens after I install QT version 1.44. Unfortunately, in order to
> > install some programs I need, exactly version 1.44 is required. Could
> > this be a simple problem like I'm not running ldconfig, or something
> > similar? I would very much appreciate help. Thank you.
>
> Use CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to a text login, then log in as root
> and look at /var/log/xdm-error.log to see where the error lies.
>
> You could also log in as a regular user from the text terminal
> and use "startx -- :1" to start a new x session on screen 1 to
> see if that works.
>
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From: "Victor Bazarov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.lang.learn.c-c++,comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: strange compilation error
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:40:50 -0700
"me" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
> hi
>
> i'm trying to compile a very short, simple piece of code, and i get
the
> following error when i include the file <linux/cdrom.h>:
>
> In file included from eject.c:2:
> /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:227: parse error before `caddr_t'
> /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:227: warning: no semicolon at end of struct
> or union
> /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h:229: parse error before `}'
>
> the strange thing is, there doesnt seem to be anything wrong with
> cdrom.h. All the structs etc declared there (up until line 350 or so)
> are syntactically correct. Here's the code segment from cdrom.h lines
> 223-229
>
> /* This struct is used by the CDROMREADMODE1, and CDROMREADMODE2
ioctls
> */
> struct cdrom_read
> {
> int cdread_lba;
> caddr_t cdread_bufaddr;
> int cdread_buflen;
> };
>
> anyone know what the problem is??
Wow, what a cross-post list! You should watch your cross-posting
habits, you know...
If caddr_t is declared as a type alias BEFORE the quoted text,
then it seems fine. HOWEVER, it is likely that if you use the
aforementioned header in a C program, you might have problems.
If caddr_t is declared something like
struct caddr_t { ... };
then in a C program the use MUST BE:
struct cdrom_read
{
struct caddr_t ... /* notice the keyword 'struct' */
};
>From the error message, it seems that you're using it in a C
program (not C++) -- the file extension is a lowercase 'c'.
HTH
Victor
P.S. "comp.os.linux.help" and "comp.os.linux.questions" have been
removed -- my server doesn't carry them and my reader won't
post to a non-existent newsgroup.
--
Please remove capital A's from my address when replying by mail
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Increase RAM in RedHat Linux
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:43:52 -0600
> : NOOOOO !
>
> : set xx to be memory minus 2MB
>
> : If you have 128Meg then set xx to be 126
>
> WTF are you talking about? Please explain this ridiculous position...
I guess the person assumed that we were all running i810 chipsets, which
take 2 megs of the system ram for video. Too bad they've never experienced
a real computer.
steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MySQL - User can not access database
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:43:35 GMT
MySQL - User can not access database
I login as root and did the following
Command->mysqladmin create testDB
Command->mysql
then I did the following
use testDB
create table t_table (id int, note text);
insert into t_table ('1','this note');
insert into user values ("localhost","jsmith",password
('xxxx'),'Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y','Y');
quit;
Then I did the following
command-> mysql -u jsmith
use testDB
I get the following error
ERROR: 1044: Access denied for user: '@localhost' to database 'testDB'
Please email me back at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Radek Tomis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: How to get a process's I/O offset ?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 21:52:01 +0200
Hello,
Is there any way how to obtain (at user level) a current
file descriptor's I/O offset of a given process in /proc-based
Linux (booted off floppy disk) ?
Let me tell you my (past) situation/needs:
I don't have any Linux installed on HDD (and do not plan to install
it in the nearest future). I just copied from a friend a single
bootable Linux floppy disk, containing kernel 2.2.5-22 and few basic
utilities, to make a backup of unaccessible NTFS partitions
(I guess because of W2K bug) by copying them from one HDD to another,
sector by sector, using 'dd', after failing to accomplish the same
with GHOST (DOS tool). GHOST seems to be doing partition->partition
(not only partition->image) copy at the file-level (i.e. reading
files from NTFS/FAT/whatever file system) and not copying sector by
sector. In any way, the GHOST ended up immediately (and then froze)
with "NTFS: cannot read MFT" message or something to that effect
-- what an unpleasant surprise !
In the end, I copied the partitions in Linux using 'cp /dev/hda<n>
/dev/hdb<n>' (after failing to do this using 'dd' -- it always
crashed on segmentation fault somewhere in the middle of copying
<4 and <3 GB partitions).
I launched the 'cp' asynchronously ('... &') to have a chance
doing something else. Besides other things, mostly to find out,
how far the copying is (I was copying/summing/comparing ~2 and
<4 GB partitions...), to find out what's the current I/O offset
of 'cp' (or 'sum' or 'cmp') process...
I didn't find anything useful in "/proc" tree so I tried the latest
'lsof' (both /proc- (4.51) and /dev/kmem- (4.50) based), that I
downloaded in the meantime and transferred it to booted Linux via
additional floppy disk. /proc-based 'lsof' doesn't report offset
information, because /proc-based kernel in question doesn't
support this (as documented well in 'lsof' FAQ) and I don't
think it would be easy (without Linux installation on HDD)
to patch this kernel on the floppy to have that support possibly
included, as offered by author of 'lsof' in his FAQ.
/dev/kmem-based 'lsof' didn't run at all, reporting it was compiled
for different version of the kernel (ok, no complaints).
So, is there any other way how to obtain a process's file
descriptors' I/O offsets ?
It's not life-threatening not to have this feature on this
particular floppy, I'm just wondering whether there's any
feasible workaround for my situation.
Thank you for your time.
--
Radek Tomis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:51:43 GMT
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000 01:44:36 -0500, Michael O'Connell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I believe ALL networking technologies "allow for differing types of transmissions".
>Phone, video, and internet currently go across many other types of networking -
>dialup lines, DSL, ISDN, frame-relay, T1, etc...
Oh sheesh, what have I started. Anyway, you will notice that I
said that the original quote was that ATM allows for differing
types of transmissions. That's incorrect. Rather, ATM will
encapsulate and transport different types of transmissions. But
ATM itself only supports ATM. For example, ATM can be used
as a bridge between two frame relay networks.
Probably just a matter of phrasing, but one is correct and
one isn't.
Regards, Dustin
>Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 23:17:16 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Do you want an RFC, it is a very complicated technology and I am not about
>> >to start explaining it in a NG where it has at best a vague relevance in an
>> >already off topic discussion.
>>
>> Well, ATM really isn't used for "differing types of transmissions." It uses
>> the same type of "tranmission" everytime. Now, what is transported is
>> another matter. As far as educational institutions using ATM goes.. well,
>> they are just part of a pretty big crowd using ATM, including your local
>> DSL provider.
>>
>> Best regards, Dustin
>>
>> >
>> >"Dustin Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:36:46 -0600, David Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >I stand corrected then "many people" as opposed to some.
>> >> >
>> >> >Btw, the other ATM stands for Asynchronous Transfer Mode and is a
>> >networking
>> >> >technology that allows for differing types of transmissions. There are
>> >some
>> >> >educational institutions that use it for phone, video, and Internet, all
>> >on
>> >> >one line.
>> >>
>> >> Not the best definition of ATM that I've ever heard..
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
>> >> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
>> >> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
>> Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
>> - http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
>
--
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 09:53:30 -0500
From: Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel?
As an interresting sidenote to this, when I had a similar problem, I used
the same fix. But running /sbin/lilo while su'd didn't fix the problem, I
received no error messages, but it wasn't until I actually logged in as root to
run /sbin/lilo that the changes took effect. Odd, eh?
"David ...." wrote:
> Add this to /etc/lilo.conf
>
> append="mem=256M"
>
> Then run /sbin/lilo
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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to get a process's I/O offset ?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:54:04 GMT
>sector. In any way, the GHOST ended up immediately (and then froze)
>with "NTFS: cannot read MFT" message or something to that effect
>-- what an unpleasant surprise !
In the docs of ghost is a nifty option to bypass that specific problem
when it is a NTFS5 partition.
Besides, GHOST is a binary util, and not a "file copier" as you appear
to beleive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:54:52 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 23:35:59 -0600, Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> typesetting. Your scientific WORK is what matters most and it is a
> waste of time and effort to learn something that isn't needed just to
> ...
> Gene, Journal of Molecular Evolution, RNA...NONE of them accept latex
> (tex) format documents. They DO accept word and wordperfect. Some of
> them accept Wordstar. A few of them accept plain text, which latex
> _can_ handle in these circumstances.
> ...
> Freehand or Illustrator. The EDITOR(s) at the journal gets to deal with
> all that typesetting crap. That is what they are paid to do.
If the scientist's job is scientific *work* and the editor's job is
*typesetting*, why does the scientist need to bother with anything but a
text editor (and something separate for graphs or illustrations, of
course)?
If the scientist submits something that's going to be re-typeset by the
editor anyway, it's foolish to use Word or LaTeX. It seems that in this
case, the journals should *only* accept in plain text format. What are
the chances that a scientist is going to submit his article in *exactly*
the format required by the journal? So, clearly the editor is going to
spend some time formatting the article to meet the needs of the journal.
I don't think the editor is going to lose any more time if the article was
submitted in plain text.
In fact, if the journal editor has a Word template for articles appearing
in his journal, then it seems as though he'd *prefer* plain text.
So Word is *still* a waste, because the money the scientist spent on Word
could have gone towards hardware or other scientific tools.
MG
--
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
-- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help: Can Dial in to PPP server, can't get out of it
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:59:17 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 16:26:41 +0200, Merritt Krakowitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>you prolly need to enable ip forwarding, wish i could remember how :)
>but i recon thats yer prob, if yer dialup server isnt configgered to forward
>packets it wont. i think its disabled for rfc compliance. if u cant figure
>out how letme know ill take a jog up the server room :)
The original poster should do the following:
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
--
Dustin Puryear <$email = "dpuryear"."@usa.net";>
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: StarOffice or Applixware
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:57:34 GMT
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From: William Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Exceed with DHCP
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:14:21 GMT
Make sure your Linux box can ping your PC by name, then export your
display using your PC's name instead of an IP Address.
export DISPLAY=mypc:0
William
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am using Exceed to access my Redhat Linux Desktop. It works great if
> my PC uses a static IP address. If I use dhcp it doesn't work. Any
> advice?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:13:32 GMT
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 19:25:05 GMT, Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the
> business of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn
> programming to do that.
I think it's reasonable to assume you could start using LaTeX after
*skimming* the Leslie Lamport's book for only a couple hours. I also
think it's reasonable that you could become sufficiently profficient with
LaTeX in about two weeks. And I don't mean 80 hours, I mean one or two
hours of LaTeX review per day. Learn the features as you need them.
What kind of books are you writing? If you're writing something simple
such as a novel, you could learn sufficient LaTeX in 10 minutes. If
you're writing something sophisticated such as a text book, you'll
certainly have to learn more about the LaTeX typesetting language. But to
write a textbook in Word would also require some learning. And if you
have a huge complicated project in Word (such as a textbook), lost
productivity due to software bugs and system crashes is virtually
*inevitable*.
So take the time to learn LaTeX that you'd normally waste on system
crashes (and some time you'd spend learning advanced Word functionality).
And learning LaTeX might set your work back a few days---at first. Once
you've got it down, though, you'll be *saving* time.
I cannot see the cost of learning LaTeX not paying for itself in a
reasonable amount of time.
MG
--
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
-- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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From: "David ...." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Enabling 256Mg of Ram in linux-2.2-12 kernel?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:16:22 -0400
Brian wrote:
>
> As an interresting sidenote to this, when I had a similar problem, I used
> the same fix. But running /sbin/lilo while su'd didn't fix the problem, I
> received no error messages, but it wasn't until I actually logged in as root to
> run /sbin/lilo that the changes took effect. Odd, eh?
Yes that is odd since "su" should give the same permissions as "root".
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:18:56 GMT
On 19 Oct 2000 20:35:27 GMT, Brian Langenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Haoyu Meng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in
> : the business of writing books using computers. I don't want to have
> : to learn programming to do that.
> http://ctan.tug.org/tex-archive/info/lshort/english/lshort.pdf
>
> It really isn't all that hard and certainly doesn't require
> any programming expertise (unless you want to).
Another upside to LaTeX: since you're working in a *text editor*, if you
use a reasonably sophisticated text editor such as emacs or vim, you get
syntax highlighting that looks pretty (within the editor). Color makes
typing fun, in my personal opinion :)
MG
--
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
-- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:03:03 -0700
"Christopher Browne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In our last episode (Thu, 19 Oct 2000 18:28:19 +0400),
> the artist formerly known as Jan Schaumann said:
> >"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Jan Schaumann wrote:
> >>>Garry Knight wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
> >>>>pretty well.
> >>>
> >>>The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
> >>>D'uh). RTF is not half as portable.
> >>
> >> Great. Let's see you "port" a PDF document into Word 97.
> >
> >See <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> further below.
> >
> >Opening one document-type with an application that is not intended to
> >handle that type can not produce the correct output.
> >
> >*You* try opening a word-document with xv.
>
> The point, which should be underlined by virtue of the Subject: line
> above that asks
> "Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?"
> is whether there is something sufficiently analagous to MS Word.
>
> One of the properties of MS Word is that it is used to read, view,
> _AND MODIFY_ documents prepared using the formats that it accepts.
There are plenty of "analagous" programs. That you're not aware of
Wordperfect and Staroffice for Linux is amazing. Either will open and edit
Word files, though perhaps not the very latest version of Word. OTOH,
neither will older versions of Word.
BTW, I've found RTF files to be no more reliable than Word files, or any
other word processor file format. For this reason, I have all the major
word processing programs installed on my machine. Sometimes I'll get a .wp
or .lwp or .rtf or even .ps file that can't be opened by one program, but
for some inexplicable reason can be opened by another. So, true cross
platform, or even multi program compatibility is a myth. Except for ASCII.
So stick with that unless it's absolutely necessary.
Actually, as long as you don't get too wacky with fonts or tables, you
shouldn't have much trouble with any of the above.
I've found that of all the major programs, that Staroffice for either
Windows or Linux is the best at opening "foreign" file formats. Lotus
Wordpro is pretty good, too. Wordperfect is probably the most finicky.
YMMV, depending on which .dlls are broken in your Windows system. ;-)
Matt O.
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 12:20:24 -0700
"2:1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Haoyu Meng wrote:
> >
> > U need to read a whole book to understand how to use Latex. I am in the
business
> > of writing books using computers. I don't want to have to learn
programming to
> > do that.
>
>
> Use LyX. No book required.
I encourage anyone to try LyX, just for kicks. For someone coming from a
standard word processor, they'll giggle with glee because it's so easy. It
really is neat. I wish all word processors worked this way.
Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:36:45 GMT
Lyx, TeX, LaTeX, pdflatex, dvips, pstopdf, mpage, bibtex, xfig...
Let's not forget that all of these software typesetting tools are *free*.
The money a corporation or organization saves on software licensing costs
(of Windows, Word, etc) *easily* justifies the cost of training employees
how to use these free tools.
This is conjecture, but I don't see how *any* organization could fail to
show long term savings by switching to free software and investing in
employee training.
Training is a one time or very sporadic event. Software licensing is
continuous.
MG
--
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
-- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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From: Richard Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape startup problem
Date: 20 Oct 2000 20:41:21 GMT
All of a sudden, whenever I try to start up Netscape, I get an error
message: "test: too many arguments." I tried everything I could think of,
and finally reinstalled Netscape using YAST. The first time I tried to
start it it worked, but subsequently, I get the same message. I am at a
loss as to what is causing this. I am using SuSE 6.4 recently installed on
a Pentium 166 w 64mb memory. Any suggestions?
TIA
d johnston
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 14:40:47 -0600
From: Warren Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Which Linux distro most 'generic' *nix ?
> > So I was wondering which distro comes closest to a generic commercial *nix ?
You know, maybe it would help if you told us what *ix you were trying to
come closest to. Then we could tell you which flavor of Linux is most
like that.
--
= Warren -- See the *ix pages at http://www.cyberport.com/~tangent/ix/
=
= ICBM Address: 36.8274040 N, 108.0204086 W, alt. 1714m
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 20:47:33 GMT
On 20 Oct 2000 10:32:17 -0400, Andrew J. Perrin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> obviously. My response was to someone saying win users couldn't view a
> ps doc, not to suggest that ps fulfills the requirements. I'm on
> record already as saying that while you're writing and revising,
> plaintext is fine for 99% of what you're doing; format it later! Just
> my experience.
Even if formatting is required during revision and writing, who says you
can't use CVS with a large, global LaTeX project?
MG
--
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
-- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Chinese ownership of adobe.com name
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 19:34:36 GMT
Jos Buurman writes:
> ...are you absolutely sure the Linux distribution (or just the programs
> installed) you use are virus free?
Yes.
> And have you read all source-code and recompiled all files?
Better than that: every one was acquired direct from upstream, packaged and
compiled by a Debian developer and then tested by hundreds of Debian
developers and testers.
> There might be a virus inside.
I think you meant to write 'trojan'. If there are any trojans in Debian
they came from Bell Labs of the FSF.
> I think you're over-reacting.
No doubt. Still, Acrobat is closed source: no one not sworn to secrecy
really knows what's in it.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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